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This is what crazy people do when you take away their food stamps
For everyone who says we should end public assistance, and that they don't care what the economy does, because they're okay... remember you live among 310 million other people, many of whom aren't very stable...
yesterday...
church shooter in knoxville, TEN.
Shoots up a church, kills 2, wounds at least 5 critically.
His food stamps just ended. Frustered at he count find work
He targeted the church due to its "liberal views"
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This is what crazy people do when you take away their food stamps
For everyone who says we should end public assistance, and that they don't care what the economy does, because they're okay... remember you live among 310 million other people, many of whom aren't very stable...
yesterday...
church shooter in knoxville, TEN.
Shoots up a church, kills 2, wounds at least 5 critically.
His food stamps just ended. Frustered at he count find work
He targeted the church due to its "liberal views"
Red, religious state...typical. ::)
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Fine let them go nuts...cull the worthless out of the population.
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Fine let them go nuts...cull the worthless out of the population.
So the people that were shot in church were worthless?
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This is what crazy people do when you take away their food stamps
For everyone who says we should end public assistance, and that they don't care what the economy does, because they're okay... remember you live among 310 million other people, many of whom aren't very stable...
yesterday...
church shooter in knoxville, TEN.
Shoots up a church, kills 2, wounds at least 5 critically.
His food stamps just ended. Frustered at he count find work
He targeted the church due to its "liberal views"
Wow.... i wonder if he was a Christian.
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He hated the church or the pastor because the guy was liberal..or some damm thing.
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makes you wonder if he was influenced by 7 years of trained "Must hate the libs" drone talk by the right wing chatterboxes.
Not blaming them. Pointing out they demonize those who hate war as anti-Christian, anti-God. Very weird that people supporting an elective war for fossil fuel resources could ever cast stones at people condeming it. Funny what repetition will do. After being reassured by an angry voice long enough... you *become* that angry voice.
not you in particular HH6, you tend to admit the war is for oil, but you seem to respect the respectful left-wingers who don't wish bad things on you.
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makes you wonder if he was influenced by 7 years of trained "Must hate the libs" drone talk by the right wing chatterboxes.
Not blaming them. Pointing out they demonize those who hate war as anti-Christian, anti-God. Very weird that people supporting an elective war for fossil fuel resources could ever cast stones at people condeming it. Funny what repetition will do. After being reassured by an angry voice long enough... you *become* that angry voice.
not you in particular HH6, you tend to admit the war is for oil, but you seem to respect the respectful left-wingers who don't wish bad things on you.
The dumb ass probably thinks Savage is the second coming and the anti-Christ is a liberal.
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makes you wonder if he was influenced by 7 years of trained "Must hate the libs" drone talk by the right wing chatterboxes.
Not blaming them. Pointing out they demonize those who hate war as anti-Christian, anti-God. Very weird that people supporting an elective war for fossil fuel resources could ever cast stones at people condeming it. Funny what repetition will do. After being reassured by an angry voice long enough... you *become* that angry voice.
not you in particular HH6, you tend to admit the war is for oil, but you seem to respect the respectful left-wingers who don't wish bad things on you.
if that was true youd have liberal nutbags running around doing the same thing
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if that was true youd have liberal nutbags running around doing the same thing
Except Liberals don't advocate for the primitive kill or be killed mentality.
When Liberals get angry, they organize and formulate solutions to the nation's problems.
What the USA needs is more angry Liberals. :D
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When Liberals get angry, they organize and formulate solutions to the nation's problems.
Translation: Piss and moan until you get what you want. If that doesnt work, try playing the race card.
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Except Liberals don't advocate for the primitive kill or be killed mentality.
When Liberals get angry, they organize and formulate solutions to the nation's problems.
What the USA needs is more angry Liberals. :D
sure jag sure ::) a crazy person is a crazy person...just like the person outside the white house with the AK a few years back... ::) sure jag sure
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sure jag sure ::) a crazy person is a crazy person...just like the person outside the white house with the AK a few years back... ::) sure jag sure
Ya a crazy person is a crazy person, ...but better a crazy person listen to angry Liberals who will influence him to organize & formulate solutions, rather than listen to an angry neo-con who will tell them to kill or be killed.
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Ya a crazy person is a crazy person, ...but better a crazy person listen to angry Liberals who will influence him to organize & formulate solutions, rather than listen to an angry neo-con who will tell them to kill or be killed.
You have SERIOUS issues. Serious.
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Ya a crazy person is a crazy person, ...but better a crazy person listen to angry Liberals who will influence him to organize & formulate solutions, rather than listen to an angry neo-con who will tell them to kill or be killed.
you think the person shooting at the white house was a conservative, i doubt it
LOL its really laughable for you to sit there and say that liberals dont muder and kill
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you think the person shooting at the white house was a conservative, i doubt it
LOL its really laughable for you to sit there and say that liberals dont muder and kill
Someone was shooting an AK at the White house? I never heard about that. :o
I'm not saying liberals don't ever murder or kill, ...I just think neocons do it in far greater numbers.
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:o ::)
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Someone was shooting an AK at the White house? I never heard about that. :o
I'm not saying liberals don't ever murder or kill, ...I just think neocons do it in far greater numbers.
it was a good number of years back actually might have been during bush's first term. He was tackled pretty quickly if i remember correctly or maybe he was changing magazines or something. Id really like to see your research on your last statement that led you to your conclusion.
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it was a good number of years back actually might have been during bush's first term. He was tackled pretty quickly if i remember correctly or maybe he was changing magazines or something. Id really like to see your research on your last statement that led you to your conclusion.
I don't recall having heard about that incident at all. They probably kept it off the news up here in an effort to discourage copycats. There's not alot of love for bush in these neck of the woods. As for research, one doesn't have to go far ...just look around you right here at GetBig. Who are the one's calling for violence? neocons. Who are the one's advocating kill or be killed? neocons. And who are the ones advocating voting for the man with the plan? progressives.
At least if you vote Obama for President, universal healthcare will provide those societal nutjubs with the healthcare they need. No more crazy people turfed onto the streets to shoot up your churches and neighbourhoods.
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I don't recall having heard about that incident at all. They probably kept it off the news up here in an effort to discourage copycats. There's not alot of love for bush in these neck of the woods. As for research, one doesn't have to go far ...just look around you right here at GetBig. Who are the one's calling for violence? neocons. Who are the one's advocating kill or be killed? neocons. And who are the ones advocating voting for the man with the plan? progressives.
At least if you vote Obama for President, universal healthcare will provide those societal nutjubs with the healthcare they need. No more crazy people turfed onto the streets to shoot up your churches and neighbourhoods.
LOL man you really bought into the uptopia bs savior obama is selling didnt you...the retarted part about the guy with the AK is that Bush wasnt even there lol. Your right conservatives are preaching action(violence as you call it) if it were up to liberals we would have to try and appease everyone and if it was up to obama we would have to make sure everyones piece of the pie is equal.
LOL yes universal healthcare leads to great service from what i hear, is that why you come to the US for doctors.
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Right. Take a walk down Yonge St in Toronto. All you see is violent crime and 10 panhandlers on every corner.
Dont believe any of Jag's bullshit about how No more crazy people turfed onto the streets to shoot up your churches and neighbourhoods. Toronto is the worst shithole you could ever want to get stuck in.
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most libs aren't armed, silly goose ;)
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Right. Take a walk down Yonge St in Toronto. All you see is violent crime and 10 panhandlers on every corner.
Oh really?!?!?! ??? hmmm... are you saying that panhandling is a violent crime?
Dont believe any of Jag's bullshit about how No more crazy people turfed onto the streets to shoot up your churches and neighbourhoods. Toronto is the worst shithole you could ever want to get stuck in.
Let' play a little word association game shall we?
Jag: Bananas :)
Tapper: I hate Canada >:(
Jag: Pizza :P
Tapper: I hate all Liberal Canadians >:(
Jag: Did you see the new Batman movie? :)
Tapper: Toronto is a shit hole, and they don't have good popcorn in Canada >:(
pssssst: I don't think Canada is Tapper's favourite place.
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Someone was shooting an AK at the White house? I never heard about that. :o
HAHA
I thought in Canada you recieved more information and facts than the citizens in the United States?
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most libs aren't armed, silly goose ;)
most conservatives dont either.
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HAHA
I thought in Canada you recieved more information and facts than the citizens in the United States?
We do, ...I might have been on vacation that week, ...or it might have been during a Canadian election and I never bothered to pay attention, ...or the news media might have censored the story to prevent possible copycats, ...or I might have just forgot? who knows who cares, who gives a poop?
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We do, ...I might have been on vacation that week, ...or it might have been during a Canadian election and I never bothered to pay attention, ...or the news media might have censored the story to prevent possible copycats, ...or I might have just forgot? who knows who cares, who gives a poop?
apparently you and 240 do when its a conservative who goes nuts and shoots ppl, but i guess when its a liberal its not news.
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Oh really?!?!?! ??? hmmm... are you saying that panhandling is a violent crime?
I'm in awe you actually asked something as stupid as that(in awe, but not surprised.)
You go on and on about Canada's universal healthcare and how all the people would be off the streets, blah blah when in fact Yonge Street is the worst place you would ever want to find yourself. The amount of mentally ill people in that city who have been shunned and live on the streets robbing and begging for money is like nothing I have ever seen.
I come to Toronto 3-5 times a year for business and I am at my happiest when I have to leave. No matter where you are, people accost you and beg for money, the city is run down and dirty and violent crime is rampant. And it doesnt matter what part of the city are in, its all the same. I usually stay at the Courtyard Marriott on Yonge street and the second I walk outside, there they are. Fucking panhandlers. "First Nations" teenagers stabbing each other. People walking around in a stupor talking to themselves. The streets are filthy, garbage everywhere. The only nice place to eat in Toronto, the Elephant and Castle, is lined with beggars the moment you walk outside.
Horrible, horrible city.
Dont believe any of Jag's bullshit.
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I'm in awe you actually asked something as stupid as that(in awe, but not surprised.)
You go on and on about Canada's universal healthcare and how all the people would be off the streets, blah blah when in fact Yonge Street is the worst place you would ever want to find yourself. The amount of mentally ill people in that city who have been shunned and live on the streets robbing and begging for money is like nothing I have ever seen.
I come to Toronto 3-5 times a year for business and I am at my happiest when I have to leave. No matter where you are, people accost you and beg for money, the city is run down and dirty and violent crime is rampant. And it doesnt matter what part of the city are in, its all the same. I usually stay at the Courtyard Marriott on Yonge street and the second I walk outside, there they are. Fucking panhandlers. "First Nations" teenagers stabbing each other. People walking around in a stupor talking to themselves. The streets are filthy, garbage everywhere. The only nice place to eat in Toronto, the Elephant and Castle, is lined with beggars the moment you walk outside.
Horrible, horrible city.
Dont believe any of Jag's bullshit.
What do you expect. You're right next to the drop-in and outreach centers.
If I visited your city and set up home next to the sewage treatment plant, even I'd know why everything stunk.
Maybe you ought to stay over at the Four Seasons, Hotel Intercontinental and you might see a different side of TO
You don't even have to go that far, ...just take it 1 block west and stay at the Sutton Place. It's a whole other world.
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Its the same EVERYWHERE. And location is not the purpose of my post.
It just goes to show how fucked up an individual you are to piss and moan about how evil the States is, when your city is the asshole of the world. You rant and rave about socialized medicine and how it benefits all, yet of all the cities I go to each year, Toronto is without a doubt the worst. I have never seen so many people just thrown to the wolves.
The one redeeming quality about the panhandlers(and my God there are TONS of them) is that some of them are funny. If they make me laugh, they get a Toonie. Nobody else in Toronto seems to give a damn about them.
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Its the same EVERYWHERE. And location is not the purpose of my post.
It's not the same everywhere. if you move in next door to the mission, the homeless soup kitchen, and the homeless shelter, would you not expect to find that a large proportion of those you would find in the area are the homeless, foodless etc., etc.,
It just goes to show how fucked up an individual you are to piss and moan about how evil the States is, when your city is the asshole of the world. You rant and rave about socialized medicine and how it benefits all, yet of all the cities I go to each year,
The only ranting and raving going on is being done by you.
Toronto is without a doubt the worst. I have never seen so many people just thrown to the wolves.
You haven't been looking in too many places then huh? pssst: have you seen your own backyard lately?
How are those tent cities making out? ...you know the ones make up of former hardworking homeowners who got turfed out of their homes. I'll admit alot of runaways and lazy indigents gravitate towards big cities like TO, but how screwed up is a society when honest hardworking people end up in that situation?
The one redeeming quality about the panhandlers(and my God there are TONS of them) is that some of them are funny. If they make me laugh, they get a Toonie. Nobody else in Toronto seems to give a damn about them.
Welcome to the end results of Mike Harris' Common Sense Revolution, ...coming soon to a US city near you,
...unless Americans vote Obama for President.
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I'll admit alot of runaways and lazy indigents gravitate towards big cities like TO
Thats all I wanted to hear. Thanks Jag! ;D
Welcome to the end results of Mike Harris' Common Sense Revolution,
LOL at blaming it on the Conservatives. TO is a shithole no matter who is in power. Liberals? Shithole. NDP? Shithole. Tories? Shithole.
You like to dish it out Jag, but one can almost hear you snap when somebody points out how utterly full of shit you are.
Maybe when you fix your own problems you can earnethe right to talk about the problems in other countries. You're such a hypocrite.
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tony,
would you say MORE, LESS, or EQUAL numbers of libs and conservatives own firearms?
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I'd say more conservatives own guns LEGALLY than liberals. But if you walk down to Scarborough or Jane-Finch and ask the criminals there if their guns are registered and legal, you'd get a different answer.
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I'll admit alot of runaways and lazy indigents gravitate towards big cities like TO
Thats all I wanted to hear. Thanks Jag! ;D
Welcome to the end results of Mike Harris' Common Sense Revolution,
LOL at blaming it on the Conservatives. TO is a shithole no matter who is in power. Liberals? Shithole. NDP? Shithole. Tories? Shithole.
If you don't know the background, you really shouldn't comment Tapper.
Why do you suppose voters of Ontario turfed out the Conservatives and gave the liberals a majority?
How do you suppose the liberals could break campaign promises within weeks of being elected, and get re-elected?
how do you suppose that the liberals got re-elected despite everything that has been taking place?
It's because the Conservatives screwed up this province beyond all recognition. The Liberals predicted exactly what would happen under a conservative agenda, ...and guess what, ...it happened. Now the people of Ontario know better, and are doing everything to make sure the conservatives don't screw things up even worse.
You like to dish it out Jag, but one can almost hear you snap when somebody points out how utterly full of shit you are.
You're the only one snapping here. Would you like to take a moment to do a bit of deep breathing?
Maybe when you fix your own problems you can earnethe right to talk about the problems in other countries. You're such a hypocrite.
So when are you getting your guys out of Iraq again? 8)
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I'd say more conservatives own guns LEGALLY than liberals. But if you walk down to Scarborough or Jane-Finch and ask the criminals there if their guns are registered and legal, you'd get a different answer.
Their guns are all legal and registered too. The problem is they're legal & registered to American gun owners. ;D
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If you don't know the background, you really shouldn't comment Tapper.
Why do you suppose voters of Ontario turfed out the Conservatives and gave the liberals a majority? Because TO is a bastion of liberalism. You know that.
How do you suppose the liberals could break campaign promises within weeks of being elected, and get re-elected? Because politicians lie. You dont actually believe what a politician tells you, do you Jag? You do, dont you? ;D
how do you suppose that the liberals got re-elected despite everything that has been taking place? See above reply. Nice to see you admit the Liberal gov't is full of shit too. You make this a load of fun for me when you lose your temper. ;D
It's because the Conservatives screwed up this province beyond all recognition. The Liberals predicted exactly what would happen under a conservative agenda, ...and guess what, ...it happened. Now the people of Ontario know better, and are doing everything to make sure the conservatives don't screw things up even worse.
You're the only one snapping here. Would you like to take a moment to do a bit of deep breathing? You're obvioulsy wounded and deeply upset. Would you like me to call your sponsor?
So when are you getting your guys out of Iraq again? 8) Whats the point of that post? Oh! I forgot, you're losing your grip on reality because I showed how fucked up TO is. Gotcha. ;)
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Their guns are all legal and registered too. The problem is they're legal & registered to American gun owners. ;D
When you get flustered you say oddest stuff. I cant stop laughing at the shit you post, its absolutely incredible. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Because TO is a bastion of liberalism. You know that.
Because politicians lie. You dont actually believe what a politician tells you, do you Jag? You do, dont you?
See above reply. Nice to see you admit the Liberal gov't is full of shit too. You make this a load of fun for me when you lose your temper.
You're obvioulsy wounded and deeply upset. Would you like me to call your sponsor?
Whats the point of that post? Oh! I forgot, you're losing your grip on reality because I showed how fucked up TO is. Gotcha.
Dude, you're delusional! ::)
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There it is.
Jag has officially lost her temper.
I love it. ;D ;)
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When you get flustered you say oddest stuff. I cant stop laughing at the shit you post, its absolutely incredible. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm not the least bit flustered. Clearly that went over your head. I'll try to dumb it down in the future ...just for you
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Somebody in Brampton needs a Pamprin.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Gotta love the American "blame someone else" mentality. People go off of welfare and other forms of public assistance everyday and don't start blowing people away in churches. This man was a psychotic criminal murderer. So if he did get his food stamps for a while longer, this same story would've just happened later rather than now. He was a ticking time bomb, and any sort of life obstacle thrown his way probably would have set him off at some point.
I've read several major news media outlet articles on this and not one mentioned this maniac being on any sort of medication. It's a glaring omission, and at his age, would've been otherwise remarkable that he wasn't on some sort of prescription drug. One thing that few media sources bother to correlate between the major school shootings within the US is that the shooters are prescribed various drugs for questionably diagnosed disorders. So, I'm hoping there is more to this story as to his possible drug usage.
This man was not a Christian, btw, nor was the church a true Christian church. Proclamation of one's self as a Christian does not necessarily make him one.
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tony,
would you say MORE, LESS, or EQUAL numbers of libs and conservatives own firearms?
depends on how you look at it, on paper i would definitely agree that more conservatives on guns than liberals but if you take in all the illegal guns and who owns those probably about equal.
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depends on how you look at it, on paper i would definitely agree that more conservatives on guns than liberals but if you take in all the illegal guns and who owns those probably about equal.
That doesn't sound very informed to me. In fact it sounds fairly assumptive based on personal bias. nothing personal, but it does.
Isn't there an actually study some place?
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That doesn't sound very informed to me. In fact it sounds fairly assumptive based on personal bias. nothing personal, but it does.
Isn't there an actually study some place?
lol no offense taken, tell me what sounds like an assumption?
I did a slight search and didnt come up with anything if someone has one please post a link
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lol no offense taken, tell me what sounds like an assumption?
I did a slight search and didnt come up with anything if someone has one please post a link
It sounds like you assume people who own illegal guns are liberal.
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It sounds like you assume people who own illegal guns are liberal.
well who do you assume are the majority of ppl that own guns illegally?
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well who do you assume are the majority of ppl that own guns illegally?
{raises hand slightly}
ummm... how about convicted felons who can't get one legally?
...cops? (never know when you're gonna need a throwdown)
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{raises hand slightly}
ummm... how about convicted felons who can't get one legally?
...cops? (never know when you're gonna need a throwdown)
how about ppl who perform criminal activity of any kind and either cant obtain one legally or dont want a trail leading back to them b/c of their illegal activities? Along those lines what economic/social class, race, age are those individuals likely to be? and further more what political party do those individuals normally align themselves with?
I dont think this is any more of an assumption than saying conservatives probably own more guns than liberals b/c the NRA is made up primarily of conservatives.
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I dont think this is any more of an assumption than saying conservatives probably own more guns than liberals b/c the NRA is made up primarily of conservatives.
Fair enough, but an assumption none the less right?
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Fair enough, but an assumption none the less right?
true but no bigger than the one that 240 implied earlier, why is it you didnt question that one? maybe it wasnt as obvious to you
p.s. did you hear about the gitmo detainee that was released and performed a terrorist attack? I thought you said if they were released then we had no reason to hold them in the first place? ;D
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true but no bigger than the one that 240 implied earlier, why is it you didnt question that one? maybe it wasnt as obvious to you
p.s. did you hear about the gitmo detainee that was released and performed a terrorist attack? I thought you said if they were released then we had no reason to hold them in the first place? ;D
did i?
You mean people who serve prison sentences when released don't ever commit crimes afterwards? NO WAY!
Did they use due process to determine he actually committed terrorist acts? Maybe he was wrongly accused and had a vendetta.
Or better yet, maybe he was a BIG time terrorist and becuase they didn't use due process never figured that out and then they let a BIG time terrorist go.
;D
As for 240. I am of the same assumption that conservatives own more guns than liberals. I freely admit it. ;D
You had 2 assumptions:
1. Conservatives own more guns
2. People who illegally own guns are liberal
Which shows less objectivity?
;D
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did i?
You mean people who serve prison sentences when released don't ever commit crimes afterwards? NO WAY!
Did they use due process to determine he actually committed terrorist acts? Maybe he was wrongly accused and had a vendetta.
Or better yet, maybe he was a BIG time terrorist and becuase they didn't use due process never figured that out and then they let a BIG time terrorist go.
;D
As for 240. I am of the same assumption that conservatives own more guns than liberals. I freely admit it. ;D
You had 2 assumptions:
1. Conservatives own more guns
2. People who illegally own guns are liberal
Which shows less objectivity?
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LOL knew you were gonna say that for the first part :D
I never said they were liberal, only that the likely hood of them aligning themselves with the liberal party as opposed to the conservative party was high and if you follow my line of thinking which the stats backup. Its not a far jump at all like i said i dont think its any more of an assumption that conservatives own more guns than liberals, so they are equal in objectivity.
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LOL knew you were gonna say that for the first part :D
I never said they were liberal, only that the likely hood of them aligning themselves with the liberal party as opposed to the conservative party was high and if you follow my line of thinking which the stats backup. Its not a far jump at all like i said i dont think its any more of an assumption that conservatives own more guns than liberals, so they are equal in objectivity.
You ever think about running for office? ;D
here's what you said:
depends on how you look at it, on paper i would definitely agree that more conservatives on guns than liberals but if you take in all the illegal guns and who owns those probably about equal.
I'm not sure if you left a few words out, but i'm "assuming" you meant: Liberals owns less guns but if you take in all the illegals guns and who owns them those probably make them (conservatives and democrats) about equal.
Which would imply people who own illegal guns are mostly liberal, in fact enough so that it would make ownship rates between conservatives and liberal equal.
That seems skewed as hell. Unless of course there are stats and studies to back that up. which there might be. i donno.
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You ever think about running for office? ;D
here's what you said:
I'm not sure if you left a few words out, but i'm "assuming" you meant: Liberals owns less guns but if you take in all the illegals guns and who owns them those probably make them (conservatives and democrats) about equal.
Which would imply people who own illegal guns are mostly liberal, in fact enough so that it would make ownship rates between conservatives and liberal equal.
That seems skewed as hell. Unless of course there are stats and studies to back that up. which there might be. i donno.
LOL na to many skeletons in this closet
Did you see my other post and follow my line of logic? I never said that ppl who illegally own guns are automatically liberal, which is what you implied. I stated that b/c of the social/economic class, race and age of those who are generally caught with illegal/unregistered guns and the political allegiance that those individuals generally have, it is a logical following of facts that lead to a conclusion that i have come up with, what part dont you agree with?
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LOL na to many skeletons in this closet
Did you see my other post and follow my line of logic? I never said that ppl who illegally own guns are automatically liberal, which is what you implied. I stated that b/c of the social/economic class, race and age of those who are generally caught with illegal/unregistered guns and the political allegiance that those individuals generally have, it is a logical following of facts that lead to a conclusion that i have come up with, what part dont you agree with?
I read your logic.
You are assuming people who get caught with guns are liberals because of social/economic class, race and age. It's assumptive logic, and reasonable. But assumptive none the less. and without fact in the form of stats and studies. But like i said, reasonable to assume. I don't agree or disagree because you or I don't really know for sure.
One thing now is, do these people that are getting caught with illegal guns have any real political allegiance to begin with outside of what they are conditioned to think and regurgitate like knee jerk reactions? How many people really ever take inventory of what they actually believe and how that lines them up politically?
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I read your logic.
You are assuming people who get caught with guns are liberals because of social/economic class, race and age. It's assumptive logic, and reasonable. But assumptive none the less. and without fact in the form of stats and studies. But like i said, reasonable to assume. I don't agree or disagree because you or I don't really know for sure.
One thing now is, do these people that are getting caught with illegal guns have any real political allegiance to begin with outside of what they are conditioned to think and regurgitate like knee jerk reactions? How many people really ever take inventory of what they actually believe and how that lines them up politically?
agreed and it is an assumption but the same assumption is made when you say conservatives own more guns. What studies have been done to show that the majority of people who own guns are conservatives and not only vote but vote along party lines. I tried another search of the net and came up with nada, or nothing i really wanted to read indepth anyway...lol its late.