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Title: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: serpentine007 on July 29, 2008, 04:45:07 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Stark on July 29, 2008, 04:46:26 AM
I don't think so, you can drop a little bit more fat and than look more defined and cut
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on July 29, 2008, 04:46:35 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

bwahahahahaahaahahahaaha hahahaahahaahahahaahaaha hahahaaaaaa.


oh sorry.


















no seriously...


























bwhahaahahahahaahahaahah aahahahahahaahahaaaaa.


8 years?? Shoot yourself.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Knives on July 29, 2008, 04:46:51 AM
what are your lifts?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on July 29, 2008, 04:48:07 AM
Seriously though, PLEASE post your training program, your diet and your supplements.

There's a LOT that you can improve.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Red Hook on July 29, 2008, 04:49:09 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

before this thread gets too negative lets me say this..

clearly you have never commited fullly to a training and diet plan in those 8 years.  Why not ask someone here to prepare a diet plan for you, mix in cardio and heavy weights and see what happens. Honestly you look like you have never walked into a gym before.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 29, 2008, 04:49:52 AM
Where is Squadfather when you need him!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: davidpaul on July 29, 2008, 04:52:20 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

This is either a gimmick. Or you are delusional to compare yourself to XFACTOR.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 04:52:31 AM
Hey, Do you know why I built my threads?
They are for the people like you.

I bet you dont struggle for eating and training extra hard.

You are light years far from your natural potential limit.
Just you are razy.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: spinnis on July 29, 2008, 04:52:45 AM
Ofcourse he is fucking kidding.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on July 29, 2008, 04:54:44 AM
before this thread gets too negative lets me say this..

clearly you have never commited fullly to a training and diet plan in those 8 years.  Why not ask someone here to prepare a diet plan for you, mix in cardio and heavy weights and see what happens. Honestly you look like you have never walked into a gym before.

I love the brutal honesty mixed with a tinge of sympathy  ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 04:54:53 AM
Ofcourse he is fucking kidding.
I hope so. :-[
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Deicide on July 29, 2008, 04:57:08 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

Holy shit....I look better than you...........holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/HolyFuckingShit.jpg)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: big L dawg on July 29, 2008, 04:57:45 AM
LOOKIN HUGE MAN.you have reached your genetic potential stat juicing.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Deicide on July 29, 2008, 04:58:29 AM
Hey, Do you know why I built my threads?
They are for the people like you.

I bet you dont struggle for eating and training extra hard.

You are light years far from your natural potential limit.
Just you are razy.


And Japanese/Korean does not distinguish between L and R.... ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on July 29, 2008, 04:59:20 AM
LOOKIN HUGE MAN.you have reached your genetic potential stat juicing.

I think the gh15 cycle would fit a beast like him best.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Deicide on July 29, 2008, 05:00:24 AM
Gimmik thread...must be....
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Pollux on July 29, 2008, 05:01:53 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

If that's the case, you wouldn't look the way to do.  :-[

You're just lazy - without the "r".  ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 05:02:09 AM
And Japanese/Korean does not distinguish between L and R.... ;D
Hehehe. Thanx ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Army of One on July 29, 2008, 05:06:34 AM
Yeah, you clearly have maxed out with you 13.5 inch arms at 25% bodyfat, Id start a cycle ASAP before you become catabolic on all your hard earned mass.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: serpentine007 on July 29, 2008, 05:28:10 AM
This is either a gimmick. Or you are delusional to compare yourself to XFACTOR.

Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265032;image)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on July 29, 2008, 05:32:02 AM
Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.


You're officially getbig's biggest delusional idiot, that's all.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Deicide on July 29, 2008, 05:32:29 AM
Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265032;image)

Funny Stuff...
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: oldman on July 29, 2008, 05:34:03 AM
hey dude, I think you meant to post this on CL male for male, Midwest.

you dont train or diet, but I am sure that you bend over...why why why?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Red Hook on July 29, 2008, 05:35:42 AM
Im actually bigger than X-factor, his tan, maybe a few % bodyfat and the fact he unloads water for his pics maybe make him look bigger than he is, Ive gained about 50 pounds since I started lifting 8 years ago.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265032;image)

dude, if that is what you believe then there is truly no hope for you..

you look like you have never worked out..you have may have gained 50lb but probably 7.5lb of that is muscle the rest is fat
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: bigmc on July 29, 2008, 05:53:12 AM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

looking jacked bro

you are obviously genetically gifted

but i think you are probably about 100 pounds away from your natural limit

take inspiration from the fact that you are a mildly amusing gimmick

which sets you apart from most of hem on here
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: CalvinH on July 29, 2008, 05:56:23 AM
Were gonna need to see pics of your wife to decide if your bigger than X.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: TrueGrit on July 29, 2008, 05:56:37 AM
 You have more muscle than Xfactor but are at a higher bodyfat. He is 4% and you are about 8%.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: serpentine007 on July 29, 2008, 06:02:06 AM
You have more muscle than Xfactor but are at a higher bodyfat. He is 4% and you are about 8%.

Neither of us are that low by your right I do hold more muscle, just need to step up the cardio for a few weeks and dial in the diet.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on July 29, 2008, 06:03:05 AM
You have more muscle than Xfactor but are at a higher bodyfat. He is 4% and you are about 8%.

I'd say "serpentine007" is maximum 6% bf.  ::)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: The Master on July 29, 2008, 06:10:54 AM
Hey MS :D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: XFACTOR on July 29, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
This is either a gimmick. Or you are delusional to compare yourself to XFACTOR.

Well I'll be a man about it.   Serp you are a true hero and an inspiration to all of us.  I'll bow out of this comparison gracefully as you are the champ on this day.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: triple_pickle on July 29, 2008, 06:26:02 AM
uncrowned mr. olympia right there
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Stark on July 29, 2008, 06:44:44 AM
I keep saying this and I'm quite aware that I'm massifly stroking your balls here
but that is pretty much the physique I'm striving for... probably never reach it but the dream is part of this sport ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265034;image)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: The Master on July 29, 2008, 06:45:44 AM
I keep saying this and I'm quite aware that I'm massifly stroking your balls here
but that is pretty much the physique I'm striving for... probably never reach it but the dream is part of this sport ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265034;image)


Of course you will not come close to it if you do not do the job. Have you dieted down now? :D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Tombo on July 29, 2008, 06:46:18 AM
troll
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: TrueGrit on July 29, 2008, 06:51:08 AM
Neither of us are that low by your right I do hold more muscle, just need to step up the cardio for a few weeks and dial in the diet.

Xfactor is  definitely single digit and your are between 8- 12% bodyfat. You have bigger chest, arms and neck. Cut and then concentrate on strength and condition for as a natty you won't be able to pack more muscle onto that frame.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Deicide on July 29, 2008, 06:51:36 AM
Well I'll be a man about it.   Serp you are a true hero and an inspiration to all of us.  I'll bow out of this comparison gracefully as you are the champ on this day.


Definitely enviable...I will never look like that. :-\

But once again...where are the wheels?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: musclehedz on July 29, 2008, 06:55:10 AM
Find another hobby.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Stark on July 29, 2008, 06:56:26 AM

Of course you will not come close to it if you do not do the job. Have you dieted down now? :D

yep the diet is pretty much the problem right there :D
but i'm also not that big.... at least that's what i believe
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: The Master on July 29, 2008, 07:01:04 AM
yep the diet is pretty much the problem right there :D
but i'm also not that big.... at least that's what i believe

Werent you in the military back in the day? Where is your military discipline soldier? >:(
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Stu on July 29, 2008, 07:10:58 AM
Xfactor is  definitely single digit and your are between 8- 12% bodyfat. You have bigger chest, arms and neck. Cut and then concentrate on strength and condition for as a natty you won't be able to pack more muscle onto that frame.

8-12?

8+12 maybe...
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Pecs on July 29, 2008, 07:18:46 AM
8 years??????  ???
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kwri298 on July 29, 2008, 07:32:49 AM
WTF???  13 inch arms, zero delts, chest is all fat and doesn't even have a good shape to it.  I don't believe you diet or lift weights I think you are just a troll.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Bluto on July 29, 2008, 07:34:03 AM
the question is have i reached my genetic limit as a poster on getbig and would i need steroids to keep it up ?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Bobby on July 29, 2008, 07:34:32 AM
hahahahah this is such an obvious gimmick...must have found the pics on myspace or something.

was funny though ;D
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Arkadius on July 29, 2008, 08:20:09 AM
Looking great bro,keep going, another 8 years and you will reach your genetic natural limit.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: The Coach on July 29, 2008, 08:22:58 AM
bwahahahahaahaahahahaahahahahaahahaahahahaahaahahahahaaaaaa.


oh sorry.


















no seriously...


























bwhahaahahahahaahahaahah aahahahahahaahahaaaaa.


8 years?? Shoot yourself.

LMAO.......thats cold!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Kwon on July 29, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
hahahahah this is such an obvious gimmick...must have found the pics on myspace or something.

was funny though ;D

What makes it obvious?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: burn2live on July 29, 2008, 11:33:41 AM
I think he is joking
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: TrueGrit on July 29, 2008, 11:35:53 AM
8-12?

8+12 maybe...

The OP is at the very limit of what the body can do naturally. Naturals like him will have a higer bodyfat. If he tries to cut too much he'll lose a lot of that mass.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: wavelength on July 29, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
Well I'll be a man about it.   Serp you are a true hero and an inspiration to all of us.  I'll bow out of this comparison gracefully as you are the champ on this day.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=226269.0;attach=265034;image)

Shit, I'm such a puny weakling.
You look great!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 29, 2008, 12:10:15 PM
Looking whey better than X - props.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 29, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
no....
dont think of limits... think of training as a life long habit like eating or sleeping
enjoy it..the more u train the better you will become
drop all the science... about lbs you have gained.. all this crap about 5 lb of protein a day or whatever
train and enjoy your life...
no point obsessing about it unless your gonna be a pro bber...
but no i dont think you have...
and like i train enjoy your life dont be one of those.. pro bbing wannabees walking aroud with a fanny pack.... jug of water and food in tupperware
mes
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Sharma on July 29, 2008, 12:25:30 PM
Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.

Xfactor is not natural. He has said that he has injected test and used winstrol and dbol, To his credit he does not hide this.
True naturals look terrible.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: oldman on July 29, 2008, 12:27:18 PM
you have reached your mental potential...years to go on the physical though
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: MAXX on July 29, 2008, 12:27:45 PM
gimmic  ;)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 29, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
Xfactor is  definitely single digit and your are between 8- 12% bodyfat. You have bigger chest, arms and neck. Cut and then concentrate on strength and condition for as a natty you won't be able to pack more muscle onto that frame.

this must be a joke as well, sorry it';s hard to seperate sarcasm in this gimmick thread.

I think he's probably over 30% BF.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: dustin on July 29, 2008, 12:45:41 PM
You look like shit, and judging by your attitude you are a huge loser. Maybe you can meet a loser companion here on the internet. Seems like bodybuilding is not your thing. :)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 12:56:04 PM
This guy is insane i think.  Guys, look at his eyes....
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: dustin on July 29, 2008, 12:58:31 PM
This guy is insane i think.  Guys, look at his eyes....

Kyomu, that's rude... I think he's just incest. It's not his fault.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: sinbad on July 29, 2008, 12:59:50 PM
gimmick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
Kyomu, that's rude... I think he's just incest. It's not his fault.
:o :o
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: XFACTOR on July 29, 2008, 01:35:47 PM
Xfactor is not natural. He has said that he has injected test and used winstrol and dbol, To his credit he does not hide this.
True naturals look terrible.

You are incorrect.  I never have and never would do d-bol. The test and winny I did for 6 weeks almost two years ago, it gave me flu like symptoms though, and it wasn't fun. 
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Sharma on July 29, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
There is nothing wrong with dbol. Very quickly a serious trainer will need to use some AAS. I was not being critical of you using. To me, I find naturals hard to take very seriously as they usually look like shit and think they do something noble when in fact sensible use of steroids can be beneficial in all ways.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: dustin on July 29, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with dbol. Very quickly a serious trainer will need to use some AAS. I was not being critical of you using. To me, I find naturals hard to take very seriously as they usually look like shit and think they do something noble when in fact sensible use of steroids can be beneficial in all ways.

LOL I hate to be so brutal, but this is pretty much true. You can look pretty good as a natural, but 9/10 people will NOT. It's the honest truth, eh... you cannot have a physique that looks outstanding without taking exogenous hormones and drugs. But you can look pretty darned good without. You just won't turn many heads.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: XFACTOR on July 29, 2008, 01:50:48 PM
There is nothing wrong with dbol. Very quickly a serious trainer will need to use some AAS. I was not being critical of you using. To me, I find naturals hard to take very seriously as they usually look like shit and think they do something noble when in fact sensible use of steroids can be beneficial in all ways.

If anything, to be quite frank, I want to try HGH.  I really am curious about it, yet not knowledgable on the stuff. 

 Without a doubt though, being on test made my strength jump through the roof.  I felt a little sick, but still the gains from doing that are just crazy!!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 29, 2008, 01:55:03 PM
Im 6,1, 230 been training for about 8 years and recently I cant see any dramatic gains like I did in the first 8 years.Im a bit bigger than X-factor and he seems to have maxed out too so I dont much headroom anymore.So I'm wondering now if its time to turn to the 'Darkside' ;) .I think I'd blow up on a small cycle as I have always responded well to changes in routines and diet etc.Im just a little worried about sides :(

hahahaha

This has to be a gimmick.. Better than dov's pictures
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
If anything, to be quite frank, I want to try HGH.  I really am curious about it, yet not knowledgable on the stuff. 

 Without a doubt though, being on test made my strength jump through the roof.  I felt a little sick, but still the gains from doing that are just crazy!!
A question.
Why you want to keep on doing cycle in spite of not competing?
You have great body but i strongly believe that you could achive your level of body with natural state too.
The gear makes you a slave. You must do it forever to maintain that level and being afraid of side effect.
But if you are natural, its all yours. You can get it back whenever you want.

I truly believe that you can do it.

Why dont you join my club? ;)
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: Sharma on July 29, 2008, 02:00:41 PM
If anything, to be quite frank, I want to try HGH.  I really am curious about it, yet not knowledgable on the stuff. 

 Without a doubt though, being on test made my strength jump through the roof.  I felt a little sick, but still the gains from doing that are just crazy!!

You will hear so, so many different opinions of it (GH). Some absolutely swear by it and some feel it has done nothing for them despite them spending many thousands on it. It is my understanding that on its own - ie with no steroids at all - it is almost useless and the results are disappointing. It is certainly worth trying. With the test, I don't see any harm in anyone experimenting with smallish amounts and getting a helping hand. It does not have to be extreme necessarily. I mean, we know that at 30 and 40 the levels drop dramatically so why would it be so terrible and dangerous to use a little to bring it up and maybe a bit beyond what it was when were 18? It is just hysteria that prevents people from doing so and thinking this is a dangerous thing to do.

 If you do try GH then you should definitely use some aas alongside.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on July 29, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: XFACTOR on July 29, 2008, 02:02:37 PM
A question.
Why you want to keep on doing cycle in spite of not competing?
You have great body but i strongly believe that you could achive your level of body with natural state too.
The gear makes you a slave. You must do it forever to maintain that level and being afraid of side effect.
But if you are natural, its all yours. You can get it back whenever you want.

I truly believe that you can do it.

Why dont you join my club? ;)

Well I only did that one, it's been I guess 20mos.  Granted I put on some awesome size and strength, that I feel I never would have achieved otherwise.  At least in that time frame.  

Reality though, I've heard great things about HGH. Who wouldn't want to do something that is nicknamed "the fountain of youth" drug?
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: XFACTOR on July 29, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
You will hear so, so many different opinions of it (GH). Some absolutely swear by it and some feel it has done nothing for them despite them spending many thousands on it. It is my understanding that on its own - ie with no steroids at all - it is almost useless and the results are disappointing. It is certainly worth trying. With the test, I don't see any harm in anyone experimenting with smallish amounts and getting a helping hand. It does not have to be extreme necessarily. I mean, we know that at 30 and 40 the levels drop dramatically so why would it be so terrible and dangerous to use a little to bring it up and maybe a bit beyond what it was when were 18? It is just hysteria that prevents people from doing so and thinking this is a dangerous thing to do.

 If you do try GH then you should definitely use some aas alongside.

True, I do have an understanding that test needs to be combined.  As much as I worrry about shutting myself down, (test levels) does it really, matter I'm an old man anyway  ;D at 31.
 The thought of gaining 15 pounds of muscle is really appealing. 
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 02:09:54 PM
Well I only did that one, it's been I guess 20mos.  Granted I put on some awesome size and strength, that I feel I never would have achieved otherwise.  At least in that time frame.  

Reality though, I've heard great things about HGH. Who wouldn't want to do something that is nicknamed "the fountain of youth" drug?
Then if you quit HGH, what will happen?
Is it permanent? Or shrink?
Thats very important question.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: nukkaready on July 29, 2008, 02:19:40 PM
Then if you quit HGH, what will happen?
Is it permanent? Or shrink?
Thats very important question.

you are an idiot... you quit gh and you will lose... you quit train and you will lose... anything you quit you will lose... for fukks sake life is only temporary... you will lose it... anything is temporary.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: kyomu on July 29, 2008, 02:21:54 PM
you are an idiot... you quit gh and you will lose... you quit train and you will lose... anything you quit you will lose... for fukks sake life is only temporary... you will lose it... anything is temporary.
Yeah Of course. You are right.
Just I ask him if he is agreed with keep on doing it during his liftingweight term in his life.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: local hero on July 29, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
growth just makes u look better, fuller and vascular at low bodyfat... i wouldnt say it does much for size, and nothing u gain is perminant... and igf-1 is only good for pumps... thats my experiences on them



and to the original question,,, youve obvioulsy never trained seriously in your life, fuck off and get a grip pls ......
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: emn1964 on July 29, 2008, 02:59:20 PM
this thread is comedy gold baby!
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: wes on July 29, 2008, 04:20:25 PM
 ;D

Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: serpentine007 on August 04, 2008, 07:53:27 AM
I bought some supps from bb.com, I think im ready for the next step.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on August 04, 2008, 07:56:43 AM
I bought some supps from bb.com, I think im ready for the next step.

worst gimmick ever.

Give it up, Quickerblade, you suck at creating gimmicks.
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: serpentine007 on August 04, 2008, 08:08:24 AM
worst gimmick ever.

Give it up, Quickerblade, you suck at creating gimmicks.

Was it that obvious?What a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109511731
Title: Re: Have I reached my genetic limit as a natural?
Post by: DK II on August 04, 2008, 08:10:39 AM
Was it that obvious?What a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109511731

well, you managed to get up to 150 posts, but other than that you fail by "trying too hard".

 ;D