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Title: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
...my nerve dysfunction is ravaging my right extremity worse than ever.

pic one hour ago
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 12:32:42 PM
sorry, here's photo
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 12:33:08 PM
Vote for Obama and everything will be alright...


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: benz on August 02, 2008, 12:33:14 PM
too much masturbation, calm down
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 12:34:12 PM
looks normal to me.....


try wrapping a plastic bag over your head & seal it with duct tape
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2008, 12:34:33 PM
Very obvious edema/swelling and discolouration. If your docs are not aware of it, make them. That looks painful.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 12:42:01 PM
Very obvious edema/swelling and discolouration. If your docs are not aware of it, make them. That looks painful.

like the worst throbbing sunburn you can imagine...lasts weeks to months and morphine does not touch it


dunno what to do
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 12:43:11 PM
Vote for Obama and everything will be alright...


The Luke

yeah univ health care and they will give me a bandaid and a swig of rum


oh


12 months later
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 12:44:25 PM
make a tourniquet & cut the hand off right below your chin
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Monster81 on August 02, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
no way thats not ur hand..!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
Seriously Moosejay, re-wrap the bandage... wait a couple of minutes then press down on one of the fingernails of the bandaged hand. If the fingernail doesn't go white when depressed or doesn't return to a healthy pink immediately upon the release of pressure, then the bandage is wrapped too tightly.

Also watch to see if the veins on the back of the hand and/or the arteries leading into the wrist are depressed or squashed by swelling (ie: does the hand remain purple in all various articulations? Hold each for 5 mins to see if this is the case... right angle, fingers straight... hand and fingers straight... semi-closed fist... goosenecked hand etc etc etc)


Then vote for Obama... once your HMO see that pic they'll deny your coverage and universal healthcare will be your only hope.



The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 02, 2008, 12:51:46 PM
hahaha it's not stopping him from posting.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 02, 2008, 12:53:26 PM
hahaha it's not stopping him from posting.

Post throught pain!  ;)
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Bast000 on August 02, 2008, 12:59:38 PM
yeah univ health care and they will give me a bandaid and a swig of rum

actually those will be your social security benefits.  :D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
yeah univ health care and they will give me a bandaid and a swig of rum
oh
12 months later

Just to set the record straight...

According to the UN (United Nations) and WHO (World Health Organization):
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
http://www.photius.com/rankings/who_world_health_ranks.html

...this is the current ranking of healthcare systems:

(I've highlighted my country (Ireland) and the US... it should also be noted that every country placing above the US has some form of socialised medicine)
1         France
2         Italy
3         San Marino
4         Andorra
5         Malta
6         Singapore
7         Spain
8         Oman
9         Austria
10        Japan
11        Norway
12        Portugal
13        Monaco
14        Greece
15        Iceland
16        Luxembourg
17        Netherlands
18        United  Kingdom
19     Ireland
20        Switzerland
21        Belgium
22        Colombia
23        Sweden
24        Cyprus
25        Germany
26        Saudi Arabia
27        United  Arab  Emirates
28        Israel
29        Morocco
30        Canada
31        Finland
32        Australia
33        Chile
34        Denmark
35        Dominica
36        Costa Rica
37    United States of America ...yep Republican voters: thirty seventh, well below a slew of Third World counties.
38        Slovenia
39        Cuba
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:04:04 PM
make a tourniquet & cut the hand off right below your chin

not yet
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 01:05:06 PM
not yet

try it...& then get back to us
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:05:28 PM
no way thats not ur hand..!

sadly, it is/was...about 2 hrs ago, 3 surgeries latr...sched for another, but not til sept...which may be sooner
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
Seriously Moosejay, re-wrap the bandage... wait a couple of minutes then press down on one of the fingernails of the bandaged hand. If the fingernail doesn't go white when depressed or doesn't return to a healthy pink immediately upon the release of pressure, then the bandage is wrapped too tightly.

Also watch to see if the veins on the back of the hand and/or the arteries leading into the wrist are depressed or squashed by swelling (ie: does the hand remain purple in all various articulations? Hold each for 5 mins to see if this is the case... right angle, fingers straight... hand and fingers straight... semi-closed fist... goosenecked hand etc etc etc)

Tried all of this, not from wrap


Then vote for Obama... once your HMO see that pic they'll deny your coverage and universal healthcare will be your only hope.


au contraire...my private health coverage has paid 100K plus in full



The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Naked4Jesus on August 02, 2008, 01:08:32 PM
sorry, here's photo

Stop being such a pussy!

WALK IT OFF!!!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:09:41 PM
Just to set the record straight...

According to the UN (United Nations) and WHO (World Health Organization):
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
http://www.photius.com/rankings/who_world_health_ranks.html

...this is the current ranking of healthcare systems:

(I've highlighted my country (Ireland) and the US... it should also be noted that every country placing above the US has some form of socialised medicine)
1         France
2         Italy
3         San Marino
4         Andorra
5         Malta
6         Singapore
7         Spain
8         Oman
9         Austria
10        Japan
11        Norway
12        Portugal
13        Monaco
14        Greece
15        Iceland
16        Luxembourg
17        Netherlands
18        United  Kingdom
19     Ireland
20        Switzerland
21        Belgium
22        Colombia
23        Sweden
24        Cyprus
25        Germany
26        Saudi Arabia
27        United  Arab  Emirates
28        Israel
29        Morocco
30        Canada
31        Finland
32        Australia
33        Chile
34        Denmark
35        Dominica
36        Costa Rica
37    United States of America ...yep Republican voters: thirty seventh, well below a slew of Third World counties.
38        Slovenia
39        Cuba

Look, luke, I have had a great and successful life, so no need for sour grapes on my end.

I have had many health probs...next surgery will be my 20th.

The US system has treated me beyond what I could ever imagine.

God bless all othgers, Butr I will stick here
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:10:34 PM
Stop being such a pussy!

WALK IT OFF!!!

Yes, that's the advice I needed.

Are you on the Harvard med school lecture docket?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Disgusted on August 02, 2008, 01:12:48 PM
Amputation would seem to be the only logical alternative.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
Look, luke, I have had a great and successful life, so no need for sour grapes on my end.

I have had many health probs...next surgery will be my 20th.

The US system has treated me beyond what I could ever imagine.

God bless all othgers, Butr I will stick here


...then why not vote for socialized medicine (Obama) so that everyone can be so fortunate?


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2008, 01:15:28 PM
Post throught pain!  ;)
That's right! Dig deep! You gotta want it, Moose!   :D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: qiniz on August 02, 2008, 01:18:31 PM
Look, luke, I have had a great and successful life, so no need for sour grapes on my end.

I have had many health probs...next surgery will be my 20th.

The US system has treated me beyond what I could ever imagine.

God bless all othgers, Butr I will stick here


epic disregarding obvious facts.

kill yourself
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Disgusted on August 02, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
They can rebuild you.  :D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
Amputation would seem to be the only logical alternative.

Stage 4 yes


stage 1-2, ratrely
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:27:59 PM
...then why not vote for socialized medicine (Obama) so that everyone can be so fortunate?


The Luke

bc luke, bc I feel we are all the same, I have paid for myself, many others can, too....why pay more for something I have always paid for?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:28:58 PM
They can rebuild you.  :D

It may com e to that...I am off to MassGen

and Then John's Hopkins
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Disgusted on August 02, 2008, 01:29:15 PM
Stage 4 yes


stage 1-2, ratrely

Why take any chances?  You seem to be too much of the dare devil type.  ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: qiniz on August 02, 2008, 01:29:35 PM
bc luke, bc I feel we are all the same, I have paid for myself, many others can, too....why pay more for something I have always paid for?

maybe to help others??

i know man, its a crazy concept!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:29:59 PM
epic disregarding obvious facts.

kill yourself

My facts

are not necess your facts


learn this, newbee
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
maybe to help others??

i know man, its a crazy concept!

Yes


I help those who are victims of circumstances

Many are not, and expect handouts

Are you, by chance, unemployed and angry?

Through all my sickness and surgeries, I have ALWAYS continued to run my businesses.

You should be happy there are people like me.

Look, I started this thread for help, not to joust with you

go away
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: MAXX on August 02, 2008, 01:33:58 PM
how could we help you better than a doctor...

pointless thread.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Knowledge on August 02, 2008, 01:34:39 PM
Is that just from overuse, whats the deal? What kind of surgeries? -- Lateral release of the median nerve?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: BlueDevil on August 02, 2008, 01:38:20 PM

is this the hand that held the cash when you were robbed

Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: qiniz on August 02, 2008, 01:41:57 PM
Yes


I help those who are victims of circumstances

Many are not, and expect handouts

Are you, by chance, unemployed and angry?

Through all my sickness and surgeries, I have ALWAYS continued to run my businesses.

You should be happy there are people like me.

Look, I started this thread for help, not to joust with you

go away

why would you say that?

if really want medical advice, instead of ATTENTION, call a doctor.





kill yourself
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:44:47 PM
how could we help you better than a doctor...

pointless thread.

I am in very close conbtcats with a doc

I have much time on my hands


EVERYONE has valuable advice

Maybe, just maybe, someone out there has suffered similarly

Understand?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
Is that just from overuse, whats the deal? What kind of surgeries? -- Lateral release of the median nerve?

No. Good thoiughts, tho.

I suffer with RSDS, nerve overfiring syndrome. Marked by swelling, non-healing, and marked, intractable pain.

Two sx's on TFCC, one on rotator cuff

next to remove distal ulna
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
why would you say that?

if really want medical advice, instead of ATTENTION, call a doctor.





kill yourself

Again, EVERYONE, including maybe even you, has valuable advice.

I work with docs all week.

Natch.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 01:47:43 PM
bc luke, bc I feel we are all the same, I have paid for myself, many others can, too....why pay more for something I have always paid for?

...eh because as an American you pay more per capita for healthcare than any other country in the world and factoring in the fact that 20ish% of Americans are uninsured (pay nothing) you actually pay many times out of your own pocket what an Irish person like me pays in taxes for our 19th best healthcare system in the world for the 36th best healthcare system in the world, and we have universal coverage.

Sounds like you "fiscally responsible" republicans are being swindled? Worse, you've been so indoctrinated by big business' propaganda that every time they shit on your head you lick your lips and swear it tastes good!

I help those who are victims of circumstances

Many are not, and expect handouts

Through all my sickness and surgeries, I have ALWAYS continued to run my businesses.


...except for the time you originally hurt your hand and had to spend six months living in the YMCA, remember?

Would you still be homeless now if that injury had been a brain injury that left you retarded? (...more retarded?)



The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:54:39 PM
...eh because as an American you pay more per capita for healthcare than any other country in the world and factoring in the fact that 20ish% of Americans are uninsured (pay nothing) you actually pay many times out of your own pocket what an Irish person like me pays in taxes for our 19th best healthcare system in the world for the 36th best healthcare system in the world, and we have universal coverage.

Sounds like you "fiscally responsible" republicans are being swindled? Worse, you've been so indoctrinated by big business' propaganda that every time they shit on your head you lick your lips and swear it tastes good!

...except for the time you originally hurt your hand and had to spend six months living in the YMCA, remember?

Would you still be homeless now if that injury had been a brain injury that left you retarded? (...more retarded?)



The Luke

well, yuou are prtty smart

but do you know how much your snideness detracts from your intelligence?

I could counter, but doc just called, and the ambulance is coming they think I have qa clot
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 01:56:00 PM
...eh because as an American you pay more per capita for healthcare than any other country in the world and factoring in the fact that 20ish% of Americans are uninsured (pay nothing) you actually pay many times out of your own pocket what an Irish person like me pays in taxes for our 19th best healthcare system in the world for the 36th best healthcare system in the world, and we have universal coverage.

Sounds like you "fiscally responsible" republicans are being swindled? Worse, you've been so indoctrinated by big business' propaganda that every time they shit on your head you lick your lips and swear it tastes good!

...except for the time you originally hurt your hand and had to spend six months living in the YMCA, remember?

Would you still be homeless now if that injury had been a brain injury that left you retarded? (...more retarded?)



The Luke

by the way, I donate to the 'Y' every year.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Rami on August 02, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
bandage to tight!! Even if it is broken or whatever, your circulation looks impaired!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 02:23:08 PM
Again, EVERYONE, including maybe even you, has valuable advice.

I work with docs all week.

Natch.
You're a mess. Epic stupidity asking for medical advice on Getbig! FOOL!!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 02:24:01 PM
well, yuou are prtty smart

but do you know how much your snideness detracts from your intelligence?

I could counter, but doc just called, and the ambulance is coming they think I have qa clot

...no you couldn't.

Not without making up some "facts" to support your warped world view.

My facts are not necess your facts
learn this, newbee

Good luck at the hospital Moosejay, hope they can remove the clot (if that is what it is).

Ask them to undo the lobotomy while they're at it.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 02:40:04 PM
...no you couldn't.

Not without making up some "facts" to support your warped world view.

Good luck at the hospital Moosejay, hope they can remove the clot (if that is what it is).

Ask them to undo the lobotomy while they're at it.


The Luke


So its only what YOU think?

C'mon....

Thanks for the props. I am not going. I refuse to wait five hours. I will wait for my personal doc and go to his office stright forward
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
bandage to tight!! Even if it is broken or whatever, your circulation looks impaired!

it would seem, but the bandage is very loose, actualkly
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 02:52:08 PM
...no you couldn't.

Not without making up some "facts" to support your warped world view.

Good luck at the hospital Moosejay, hope they can remove the clot (if that is what it is).

Ask them to undo the lobotomy while they're at it.


The Luke


And, the lobotomy back in my Penna days actually spurred me on to great mental heaights!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 03:07:49 PM
So its only what YOU think?

C'mon....

Thanks for the props. I am not going. I refuse to wait five hours. I will wait for my personal doc and go to his office stright forward

...reality is independent of interpretation.

You believe facts are a matter of opinion and that's why your infantile political ideology permeates your thinking... you view the world through the rosy tint of willful ignorance.

You get robbed outside your bank... couldn't be because the economy is in the shitter, that's just a liberal media conspiracy.

You lived at the YMCA for six months after an injury and subsequent medical bills left you destitute... but you still denigrate "socialized" medicine; welfare and "handouts" because your stay at the government funded YMCA wasn't a handout... after all you are a "self-made man", right?

You post misleading anti-Obama pro-McCain bullshit every second day... why?

Can't you just accept a black president and imagine McCain is in office and the US is bankrupt... after all, you're so removed from reality as is, why not take that one extra step into full-blown delusion?


By the way, you would only have to wait an hour for free treatment in socialist Ireland.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The ChemistV2 on August 02, 2008, 03:08:58 PM
I'm really sorry to see you going through this. May I ask what have all these surgeries done as far as improving this condition? When I researched your condition, the consensus was that surgery was sort of controversial as a treatment modality. What , in your opinion , think causes the body to develop this syndrome. I know you said you were treated for Melanoma before and you had some sort of heart issue. Is there any possibility that any of the treatments or procedures for those problems caused some other part of your body to develop this neurology problem? If you were able to eventually get off all medications and get you're system detoxed and extremely healthy, do you think it would help at all? Again, I don't know these answers, but I do believe when the body and immune sytem are functioning at full capacity, it's hard to have too many health issues.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: disco_stu on August 02, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
bc luke, bc I feel we are all the same, I have paid for myself, many others can, too....why pay more for something I have always paid for?

because this is exactly why your health system sucks big time. That mentality.

Hey, how about operating on yourself to save some $? If your system is so good then why are you posting at a BB forum and not in the hospital right now?- getting free care?

Answer: because in the US too many believe in "look out for number 1 and F... the rest". Newsflash- it doesnt work. One day you- or someone close you know, or someone's circumstances change and WHAM, you cant look after number 1. Then what?

here's a tip: you're screwed. All for being selfish in the first place and taking the risk.

It's EXACTLY the same for insurance there which is why the legal system is bloated.

Time the US faced reality and put some forced responsibility into its social structure and stopped giving everyone too many choices.

It's one thing to be truly "free" but another to have to pay to cover off on the chance that your free actions may hurt or affect others. Until the govt steps in itll never change.

Currently this "free"- USA-USA-USA philosophy is utopian and outdated. You think the US is great?- it could be so much better through some compromise.

Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:34:51 PM
Why take any chances?  You seem to be too much of the dare devil type.  ;D

Nah, just in the wrong places at the wrong times
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:36:03 PM
Is that just from overuse, whats the deal? What kind of surgeries? -- Lateral release of the median nerve?

I fell on icy steps and threw my right hand in back of me reflexively to buttress my fall...crunched my shoulder and wrist on the steps
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:42:05 PM
...reality is independent of interpretation.

You believe facts are a matter of opinion and that's why your infantile political ideology permeates your thinking... you view the world through the rosy tint of willful ignorance.

I don't get negatively weighted down by neg dogma, I have said before that those who contstantly lkanguish in negs, have a very hard time getting out of bed to get on with productivity.

You get robbed outside your bank... couldn't be because the economy is in the shitter, that's just a liberal media conspiracy.

Happens in good and bad times, kimosabe

You lived at the YMCA for six months after an injury and subsequent medical bills left you destitute... but you still denigrate "socialized" medicine; welfare and "handouts" because your stay at the government funded YMCA wasn't a handout... after all you are a "self-made man", right?

Absolutely.

I paid back EVERYTHING I owed to everyone, and continue to do so (donate to this day). And yes, I am self made. TOTALLY. Is that allowed where you are from (Mean, is it worth it to strike out on your opwn, or do you have a 75% tax...serious question)


You post misleading anti-Obama pro-McCain bullshit every second day... why?

How do you know it is misleading?

Some are lies, some not. Who knows? I hate socialist-slanted anybodies, in this case, OBAMA.


Can't you just accept a black president and imagine McCain is in office and the US is bankrupt... after all, you're so removed from reality as is, why not take that one extra step into full-blown delusion?

My reality is not your reality.

And we are not bankrupt, that is laughable.

I am civil with you, you cannot be with the insults. You do, again, lose your cred, kid.

By the way, you would only have to wait an hour for free treatment in socialist Ireland.

Again, it is, in no way, FREE.,

If it is, I question the training of your med staff.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 02, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
you should masterbate more often not less
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
I'm really sorry to see you going through this.

Thanks, pal. Its really starting to get to me.

 May I ask what have all these surgeries done as far as improving this condition?

Well, orthopedically, they have stabilized the three injured joints (Right wrist, elbow and shoulder. Neurologically wise, they have stoked the painful fires of neurological torture!

When I researched your condition, the consensus was that surgery was sort of controversial as a treatment modality.

Yes. I have had such a long history, and, have had stage 4 RSDS, so the prognosis is not often good. But I have had haltingly goodluck with remissions, they have most recently done a cervical sympathectomy to remove the splancnic chain of nerves in the neck that control sympathetics (Pain and sweat) to quell symptoms...I will post ex at bottom.

What , in your opinion , think causes the body to develop this syndrome.

No one really knows.

Lets say you break your hand. Your brain sends messages to the hand and back that you are injured, in pain, swelling, injury, healing ensues. This takes time. The reflex arc of transmission of these messages is at first lightening quick, but, as you heal, they low, to the point that the brain says, "Okay, you are healed, carry on."

With RSDS, those impulses sometimes never turn off....thus, even tho healed the swelling and pain can continue forever.


I know you said you were treated for Melanoma

Minor, on skin, successful!

 before and you had some sort of heart issue.

Cath  with stents recently

 Is there any possibility that any of the treatments or procedures for those problems caused some other part of your body to develop this neurology problem?

Poss, not likely

If you were able to eventually get off all medications and get you're system detoxed and extremely healthy, do you think it would help at all?

That, my friend, is the goal!  

Again, I don't know these answers, but I do believe when the body and immune sytem are functioning at full capacity, it's hard to have too many health issues.

Agree!

Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: tommywishbone on August 02, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
looks normal to me.....

try wrapping a plastic bag over your head & seal it with duct tape

Or... take a deep breath and hold it for 20 minutes.



A nerve problem causing edema? Is that what i'm seeing?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:51:57 PM
because this is exactly why your health system sucks big time. That mentality.

Hey, how about operating on yourself to save some $? If your system is so good then why are you posting at a BB forum and not in the hospital right now?- getting free care?

Answer: because in the US too many believe in "look out for number 1 and F... the rest". Newsflash- it doesnt work. One day you- or someone close you know, or someone's circumstances change and WHAM, you cant look after number 1. Then what?

here's a tip: you're screwed. All for being selfish in the first place and taking the risk.

It's EXACTLY the same for insurance there which is why the legal system is bloated.

Time the US faced reality and put some forced responsibility into its social structure and stopped giving everyone too many choices.

It's one thing to be truly "free" but another to have to pay to cover off on the chance that your free actions may hurt or affect others. Until the govt steps in itll never change.

Currently this "free"- USA-USA-USA philosophy is utopian and outdated. You think the US is great?- it could be so much better through some compromise.



You see, but you do not see.

Many here know me personally, many are actually my patients. More than ten, actually.

They could vouch I am not as you write.

I still prefer it here, friend.

Mike
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
you should masterbate more often not less

It has kept me out of LOTS of trouble ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:54:15 PM
Or... take a deep breath and hold it for 20 minutes.



A nerve problem causing edema? Is that what i'm seeing?

Hey TW, yes.

See then above article I posted for chem above.

RSDS
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Master on August 02, 2008, 04:55:49 PM
Question for Moosejay: How many things = wrong with you now? It seems like you have heart issues, nerve problems, your intestine got fucked up, cracked shoulder. Are there more?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 04:57:12 PM
In will make it back.

Both these bb shots were taken after my first comeback from RSDS (early 1990's)

second was at 36, after coming back from a shorter bout in late 1990's

It can be done.

I'll do it again
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
My reality is not your reality.

...delusional much?

I paid back EVERYTHING I owed to everyone, and continue to do so (donate to this day). And yes, I am self made. TOTALLY. Is that allowed where you are from (Mean, is it worth it to strike out on your opwn, or do you have a 75% tax...serious question)

...and how is this different to socialist taxation?
Only billionaires would pay 75% in Ireland (and they get around it with offshore accounts): our minimum wage is about $11 an hour (now twice that of California state workers) and you have to earn significantly more than that before you pay ANY tax at all?

Dude, you're a political retard...


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:02:46 PM
Question for Moosejay: How many things = wrong with you now? It seems like you have heart issues, nerve problems, your intestine got fucked up, cracked shoulder. Are there more?

Head to toe history

Subdermal hematoma; 6 day coma
Cervical sympathectomy
Nasal polyps removed 5 times
4 rotator cuff surgical repairs, two each shoulder
Two cardia stents via catheterization
Right elbow surgery
Melanoma removal
6 wrist surgeries, 3 per wrist (one pending)
Lumbar sympathctomy
Spinal surgery
Hip surgery
Right knee surgery

Think that's it
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: McFarland on August 02, 2008, 05:03:18 PM
hahaha it's not stopping him from posting.

LOL   ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
...delusional much?

...and how is this different to socialist taxation?
Only billionaires would pay 75% in Ireland (and they get around it with offshore accounts): our minimum wage is about $11 an hour (now twice that of California state workers) and you have to earn significantly more than that before you pay ANY tax at all?

Dude, you're a political retard...


The Luke

You are not very tolerant of those different from you, Lucian
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:06:06 PM
LOL   ;D

what would you do if you were me?

Go out and play some Jai Alai? ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 05:18:56 PM
You are not very tolerant of those different from you, Lucian

...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:26:57 PM
...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


The Luke

Dude, I am not religious

and I am not a blamer

I depend on myself, thank myself or blame myself.

You may be a political genius for all I know.

My path is directed by me, and, yes, I know little of politics.

Now you may sleep comfortably, ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 02, 2008, 05:29:01 PM
...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


The Luke
haha  good assessment 
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 05:29:49 PM
Dude, I am not religious
and I am not a blamer
I depend on myself, thank myself or blame myself.
You may be a political genius for all I know.
My path is directed by me, and, yes, I know little of politics.
Now you may sleep comfortably, ;D

Not until you promise to vote for Obama.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 05:34:12 PM
Not until you promise to vote for Obama.


The Luke

Haha...can't promise ya that...I do like that he is only two years my senior!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 02, 2008, 05:34:55 PM
looks normal to me.....


try wrapping a plastic bag over your head & seal it with duct tape

thats not cool giving him bogus advice.  He should consult a Chiroprator right away, he probably needs a realignment.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: knny187 on August 02, 2008, 05:39:39 PM
thats not cool giving him bogus advice.  He should consult a Chiroprator right away, he probably needs a realignment.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Luke on August 02, 2008, 05:47:54 PM
Dude, I am not religious
...I said your support for the Republican agenda of ignorance was pseudo-religious, go get yourself a dictionary.

But while we're on the subject, anyone who believes everything he hears from FOX News, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh IS actually religious... even if you don't realise it, you are actively worshiping at the altar of crude manipulation.

and I am not a blamer
...but like a good Republican you believe in and support "Fuck the poor!" social policies?

I depend on myself, thank myself or blame myself.
...except when YOU end up homeless and broke and living in a halfway house (YMCA) for months? That's a pretty myopic memory you have there Moosejay... you don't believe in "handouts", you are morally opposed to "welfare" and you use the word "socialist" as a pejorative.

Would you apply this "Get a job!" attitude to your younger self?

You may be a political genius for all I know.
...eh, no. I'm just INFORMED.

My path is directed by me, and, yes, I know little of politics.
...then why do you continuously copy and paste transcripts from the Rush Limbaugh Show to the Gossip and Opinions section of a bodybuilding board?

...and "little" is hardly the appropriate term here; you are a political ignoramus.

Now you may sleep comfortably, ;D

...not until you promise to vote for Obama.


The Luke
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 02, 2008, 05:48:23 PM
In will make it back.

Both these bb shots were taken after my first comeback from RSDS (early 1990's)

second was at 36, after coming back from a shorter bout in late 1990's

It can be done.

I'll do it again

I remember when you said you had only a few months left to live. Has the prognosis changed?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Sharma on August 02, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
I see Tiny Tim is talking about his ailments again
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: SUPREME BEING on August 02, 2008, 06:17:20 PM
Why don't both you idiots  give it as rest with you political tirades. Any truly rational individual knows that in a 2 party system - rarely is one parties policies far greater than the other. Check the statistics over the last 100 years - in fact it was democrats who actually just beat the republicans on actual performance of the US financial markets. One reason for this was that most investors are often worried the democrats would fuck things up so would be reluctant to buy coming into Democrat leadership - however, when they find that they are not fucking things up like they thought they would then markets really start to rally as the money on the sidelines comes pouring in.

When will you fools realise that politics and voting is often based on the state of the economy which will always be based on cycles. There can never be a boom without a recession no matter how hard your econ professors tell you otherwise. It is by the law of mathematics that everything is based on fractals - growth and decay in cycles.

Give it rest with the Bush rants you both know nothing and spout the usual bullshit that every load mouth prick spouts once they have had a few drinks in them.

So if Bush is so bad is it not strange that Gordon Brown is particularly bad at the exact same time hmmmmmmm makes you wonder why this is????  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 06:41:54 PM
I see Tiny Tim is talking about his ailments again

Maybe we should talk about treating women as sub-human species, as your prehistorically slanted 'society' does
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 06:43:21 PM
actually those will be your social security benefits.  :D

I won't need those...leave mine for some socialists to 'exist' on
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
Stop being such a pussy!

WALK IT OFF!!!

well, we know you don't like pussy
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 06:47:10 PM
thats not cool giving him bogus advice.  He should consult a Chiroprator right away, he probably needs a realignment.

chiro originally dx'd this
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: The Master on August 02, 2008, 06:47:24 PM
Head to toe history

Subdermal hematoma; 6 day coma
Cervical sympathectomy
Nasal polyps removed 5 times
4 rotator cuff surgical repairs, two each shoulder
Two cardia stents via catheterization
Right elbow surgery
Melanoma removal
6 wrist surgeries, 3 per wrist (one pending)
Lumbar sympathctomy
Spinal surgery
Hip surgery
Right knee surgery

Think that's it



WTF? That = a lot of health issues. What do you concider to be the causes of all this shit? Genetics? Hard lifestyle?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Nordic Beast on August 02, 2008, 07:06:06 PM
see the thing about Healthcare as it stands now is the middleclass working people are getting fucked (self employed etc), wether they cant pay for it or are paying too much--------the poor ghetto people use teh ER like a DR's office and drive up the cost for everyone else, they do this because they will never pay the bills and the hospitals cannot refuse treatment.  Bums also do this, many bums go the ER upwards of 600 times a year!!!!


universal healthcare would stop these poor ghetto people from abusing the system in such a way and will help upgrade the level of care and  shorten the time people wait in the ER considerably.  These people arent getting hurt by the system, its people like you Moose as your cost is much higher than it should be and your wait for care in teh ER is 5 times the length it should be.

you argument is too simplistic and ignorant of the consequences and factors involved in the system as it stands now.  Its a convoluted and intricate problem that is not just about "taking responsibility for one's self", unfortunately employers are getting killed for providing healthcare for employees (do you have employees with benefits under you mike?? I can tell you it sucks and employers get raped on cost!!). 

I know all this very well as my mother works in an ER and has managed ER's and other wards before.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 07:06:13 PM

WTF? That = a lot of health issues. What do you concider to be the causes of all this shit? Genetics? Hard lifestyle?

Very, very hard and active lifestyle...I drive avergae of 3 times avg American, and bicycle usually 2K miles every summer.

Some of it just bad star alignment!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 02, 2008, 07:08:27 PM
see the thing about Healthcare as it stands now is the middleclass working people are getting fucked (self employed etc), wether they cant pay for it or are paying too much--------the poor ghetto people use teh ER like a DR's office and drive up the cost for everyone else, they do this because they will never pay the bills and the hospitals cannot refuse treatment.  Bums also do this, many bums go the ER upwards of 600 times a year!!!!


universal healthcare would stop these poor ghetto people from abusing the system in such a way and will help upgrade the level of care and  shorten the time people wait in the ER considerably.  These people arent getting hurt by the system, its people like you Moose as your cost is much higher than it should be and your wait for care in teh ER is 5 times the length it should be.

you argument is too simplistic and ignorant of the consequences and factors involved in the system as it stands now.  Its a convoluted and intricate problem that is not just about "taking responsibility for one's self", unfortunately employers are getting killed for providing healthcare for employees (do you have employees with benefits under you mike?? I can tell you it sucks and employers get raped on cost!!). 
\
I do, ND, its expensive, bvut we track productiuvity to go up. Its a catch 22

I know all this very well as my mother works in an ER and has managed ER's and other wards before.


Just remember what will happen to QUALITY of hc when if it gets socialized.

People are so fucking demanding here, but lordy lord if they gotta pay!

Mike
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: jtsunami on August 02, 2008, 08:18:12 PM
Get well soon Moose, religion can take you a long way in getting towards recovery, Christianity. 

jt
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: elite_lifter on August 02, 2008, 08:20:20 PM
Get well soon Moose, religion can take you a long way in getting towards recovery, Christianity. 

jt
::), another jebesus freak,  ::)
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Bast000 on August 02, 2008, 09:38:39 PM

I have had many health probs...next surgery will be my 20th.


ever heard of learning from your mistakes?  ::)
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: no one on August 02, 2008, 11:56:43 PM
Amputation would seem to be the only logical alternative.

lol.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: HTexan on August 03, 2008, 12:09:43 AM
Usa has the best health in world, if you can afford it. The us free verison will be watered down and sucky.  Like Canada's system.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: calmus on August 03, 2008, 12:18:58 AM
Maybe we should talk about treating women as sub-human species, as your prehistorically slanted 'society' does

Hahaha, have you even spoken to a woman, you conceited wreck of a human being?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 03:20:12 AM
lol.

In some of the severest cases of RSDS, yes.

I had stage 4 in my leg years ago, was at MAYO and they were set to do that.

I would not let them.

My hand...well, stage 2-3 currently.

The longer it rages, the harder iut is to reverse.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 03:21:37 AM
ever heard of learning from your mistakes?  ::)

Not my mistahkes, Bast man.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 03:23:10 AM
Hahaha, have you even spoken to a woman, you conceited wreck of a human being?

You can continue to peer with your puffy cheek pressed against the frosty window of the Getbig manse, while all of us Moosejay Approved listers feast and exult in boisterous merriment.

You can hit the dumpster later on to forage for scraps.
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 04:00:47 AM
...I said your support for the Republican agenda of ignorance was pseudo-religious, go get yourself a dictionary.

But while we're on the subject, anyone who believes everything he hears from FOX News, Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh IS actually religious... even if you don't realise it, you are actively worshiping at the altar of crude manipulation.
...but like a good Republican you believe in and support "Fuck the poor!" social policies?
...except when YOU end up homeless and broke and living in a halfway house (YMCA) for months? That's a pretty myopic memory you have there Moosejay... you don't believe in "handouts", you are morally opposed to "welfare" and you use the word "socialist" as a pejorative.

Would you apply this "Get a job!" attitude to your younger self?

Yes. I have always worked.
I couled very easily close my practice now, will not give up./b]


...eh, no. I'm just INFORMED.
...then why do you continuously copy and paste transcripts from the Rush Limbaugh Show to the Gossip and Opinions section of a bodybuilding board?

Lucian, I don't even know hoiw to coipy and paste

...and "little" is hardly the appropriate term here; you are a political ignoramus.

I have knowledge, so do you. Neither of us is an ingoramus. If I am, so? I will learn from you and others

...not until you promise to vote for Obama.


The Luke

Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 07:56:16 AM
I remember when you said you had only a few months left to live. Has the prognosis changed?

Hmmm...well, at that point I had serious heart problems and melanoma.

If I said that, I must have been either really wigged ouyt, scared, delusional, or all the aboive!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Nordic Beast on August 03, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
good luck Moose-----keep your head up

hope your troubles clear up like they did before
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Kwon on August 03, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
Moose

That right hand looks SWOLE!

What the hell happened?
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
good luck Moose-----keep your head up

hope your troubles clear up like they did before

I will see tomorrow, my friend. I actually slept three hours today!!!!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 06:10:40 PM
Moose

That right hand looks SWOLE!

What the hell happened?

Hey Kwon.

In a nutshell, I fell on it, and a neurologic condition makews it swell, no solution yet!
Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: kimura on August 03, 2008, 06:34:50 PM
I have seen your hand before - it is cursed.

Title: Re: any of you neuro guys please help
Post by: Moosejay on August 03, 2008, 06:39:32 PM
I have seen your hand before - it is cursed.



Looks liek a job for :

"Dr. Chimps"