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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
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i dont know but i think its hard to make it a full time job in the beginning..
you need another job at the side imo..
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
welcome back!
congrats on that flex magazine photo. Good luck in the PT realm. Stay busy and keep your hands off clients, and you'll do fine.
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
search this site. there are about a thousand threads discussing this same topic. the search button is your friend.
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they need another personal trainer to teach them how to squat
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
ISSA = probably one of the best/most recognized (cost around $500 to $600 for study materials)
test was hard tho............involved kinesiology,anatomy/valves of the heart etc,biology,essays etc etc
most gyms take 50 - 75 % of your hourly rate (say you charge $80 per hour gym would take $40 or more of it)
some gyms your an independent contractor (this is the way to go!)...you pay the gym "rent" (anywhere from $500 to $800 per month) u keep 100% of what you make ............some gyms pay you an hourly rate (most LA-Fitness gyms)
$ 8 bucks per hr (not the way to go!)
and then you could always open ur own lil PT studio (a great idea!)
if you look the part/have a lot of knowledge...are personable friendly (and are in the right area ie: where there is money!)
you will do quite well!
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they need another personal trainer to teach them how to squat
yea huh huh ...............ive never squatted
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ISSA = probably one of the best/most recognized (cost around $500 to $600 for study materials)
test was hard tho............involved kinesiology,anatomy/valves of the heart etc,biology,essays etc etc
most gyms take 50 - 75 % of your hourly rate (say you charge $80 per hour gym would take $40 or more of it)
some gyms your an independent contractor (this is the way to go!)...you pay the gym "rent" (anywhere from $500 to $800 per month) u keep 100% of what you make ............some gyms pay you an hourly rate (most LA-Fitness gyms)
$ 8 bucks per hr (not the way to go!)
and then you could always open ur own lil PT studio (a great idea!)
if you look the part/have a lot of knowledge...are personable friendly (and are in the right area ie: where there is money!)
you will do quite well!
HELL YEA THERE ARE PLENTY OF SUCKERS OUT THERE WILLING TO GIVE THERE MONEY AWAY ;D
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yea huh huh ...............ive never squatted
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WHO STOLE YOURE ARMS ;D
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ISSA = probably one of the best/most recognized (cost around $500 to $600 for study materials)
test was hard tho............involved kinesiology,anatomy/valves of the heart etc,biology,essays etc etc
I did the ISSA and yes the material can be difficult unless you take the online test. Its a breeze at that point since you can google what you don't know or just reference the book. You can log in and out as you like also.
Either way I wouldn't get too caught up in which certification you have. You need to be able to sell yourself and have some other source of income at first if you actually have bills to pay.
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I did the ISSA and yes the material can be difficult unless you take the online test. Its a breeze at that point since you can google what you don't know or just reference the book. You can log in and out as you like also.
Either way I wouldn't get too caught up in which certification you have. You need to be able to sell yourself and have some other source of income at first if you actually have bills to pay.
funny thing is most yahoos who get that degree know nothing about training..all the book learning cannot make up for the training aspect at least arvilla has both..
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funny thing is most yahoos who get that degree know nothing about training..all the book learning cannot make up for the training aspect at least arvilla has both..
It's a matter of whether you can produce results for the clients.
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funny thing is most yahoos who get that degree know nothing about training..all the book learning cannot make up for the training aspect at least arvilla has both..
Right it really means nothing other than a piece of paper that makes you more "hireable" to a soccor mom looking for a trainer. Thats why I would just get one that is fairly recongnizeable and such.
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It's a matter of whether you can produce results for the clients.
I train at golds and see it all the time trainers that have been with clients for months and they look the same.never train hard because they are afraid if they get hurt they may sue who knows
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funny thing is most yahoos who get that degree know nothing about training..all the book learning cannot make up for the training aspect at least arvilla has both..
Thanks Dan! (i like what i do and think im pretty good at it)
having Laura there helping me ..helps a great deal as well!
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Laura with one of our clients
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Thanks Dan! (i like what i do and think im pretty good at it)
having Laura there helping me ..helps a great deal as well!
no prob mike i was just messing with ya before ive done the stage thing years ago 89 governors cup in nj and a few others its hard work at least at youre age and mine we still have a passion for training...
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That's not a burger king cup, is it? ;)
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Does anybody know what type of an insurance policy you need or should have if you are a pt?
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ACSM or NSCA. The tests are surpervised and they are the top 2. Most high-end clubs won't accept these mail-in certs. It helps weed out a future law suit. 95% of people that hire trainers could care less about being a bodybuilder. You must know how to train post-rehab, obese, elderly and other special populations. A degree is not important; however it does help attract clients. The goal is to get them to come to you.
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That's not a burger king cup, is it? ;)
clenbuterol makes it all better
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
Fuck all these certificates. You need to look good, have a friendly and confident appereance, being good at small talk and have to know how to market yourself, than you can make good money as personal trainer.
Don't waste time and money on bullshit certificates, nobody will ever ask you for.....they won't teach you anything you don't already know.
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Fuck all these certificates. You need to look good, have a friendly and confident appereance, being good at small talk and have to know how to market yourself, than you can make good money as personal trainer.
Don't waste time and money on bullshit certificates nobody will ever ask you for again.....they won't teach you anything you don't already know.
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It was something, "Epic_Monster"?? ::)
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It was something, "Epic_Monster"?? ::)
There are things, affeman there are things.
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Isn't this the guy that pisses all over himself, and then posts pictures in his soiled trunks?
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I train at golds and see it all the time trainers that have been with clients for months and they look the same.never train hard because they are afraid if they get hurt they may sue who knows
I don't think that's it at all. 9 times out of 10 if the client isn't making progess it's because he/she isn't doing what the trainer said to do. If a client meets with a trainer 2-3 times a week and the trainer (a good trainer) has this person doing things outside the gym, such as dieting, walking, running or whatever and that person is making up excuses of why their not doing it..........it's not the trainers fault, they only see that client for 2-3 hours per week.
About 3 months ago I made a concious business decision to not take on anymore of the general public as clients and just market to athletes. I did this because I sick and tired of hearing bullshit excuses onto why they can't do such and such either during their workouts or outside the gym, I personally "fired" 9 clients because of this "I can't do legs because my elbow hurts" " I went off the diet because it was my birthday......for a month" I can't, I can't, I can't finally I told my wife screw it, I'm tired of the BS excuses from flat out lazy people.
I'm in a position to where I can either take them or leave them. I gave the majority of my general population to my wife and another trainer so I can just concentrate on the people who really want make progress with no to little excuses.
On a side note........and regular "personal trainer" is in NO position nor does he/she have the knowledge to properly train athletes.
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I'm in a position to where I can either take them or leave them. I gave the majority of my general population to my wife and another trainer so I can just concentrate on the people who really want make progress with no to little excuses.
is this the magic goo that does the trick joe ?
(http://i34.tinypic.com/jp7dba.jpg)
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is this the magic goo that does the trick joe ?
(http://i34.tinypic.com/jp7dba.jpg)
Hail?
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Hail?
yes hail to you too
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ISSA = probably one of the best/most recognized (cost around $500 to $600 for study materials)
test was hard tho............involved kinesiology,anatomy/valves of the heart etc,biology,essays etc etc
most gyms take 50 - 75 % of your hourly rate (say you charge $80 per hour gym would take $40 or more of it)
some gyms your an independent contractor (this is the way to go!)...you pay the gym "rent" (anywhere from $500 to $800 per month) u keep 100% of what you make ............some gyms pay you an hourly rate (most LA-Fitness gyms)
$ 8 bucks per hr (not the way to go!)
and then you could always open ur own lil PT studio (a great idea!)
if you look the part/have a lot of knowledge...are personable friendly (and are in the right area ie: where there is money!)
you will do quite well!
NSCA (CSCS or CPT), NASM, ACSM I think would be the most legit. I think Lifetime Fitness only hires trainers that are NASM...even if you have your NSCA or any other, they will still tell you to get the NASM. Me...I wasted my dough on the ACE. The book is easy reading. Most pt study packages I've seen run between $300-$500.
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NCSA (CSCS)
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long time since i last posted on here but i need information. What programs/certificate/degree should i get, how long does it take, and how much does it cost. Also how much money am i looking to earn. Thanks for the help guys.
Mb have you made much progress with your physique since the days when you posted here more frequently?
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I Got up to 180lbs with abs. I have the "get the girls" look. A far cry from the 159lb starving kid i was. I feel i am at the perfect weight, still agile, look normal in clothes, but girls can tell i lift and always tell me how good i look. I attribute my weight gain to cutting back on sets, going "heavy" every lift(trying to improve strength on every lift), eating 6 meals a day, and staying consistent. Im about 175 now not as lean, but its summer and im enjoying myself. ;D
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Fuck all these certificates. You need to look good, have a friendly and confident appereance, being good at small talk and have to know how to market yourself, than you can make good money as personal trainer.
Don't waste time and money on bullshit certificates, nobody will ever ask you for.....they won't teach you anything you don't already know.
good post, marketing is very important
Dosent matter how many certificates you have, if u lack the tools to self promote and get your face out there you won't attract clients.
You wont be in demand
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good post, marketing is very important
Dosent matter how many certificates you have, if u lack the tools to self promote and get your face out there you won't attract clients.
You wont be in demand
Marketing is ALL
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Marketing is ALL
hey, since ur a promoter and all
Could u describe what marketing strategies you implemented for your show?
also if u dont mind....could u give us a general overview of how you ran the show, what financial implications where there, athlete personalities and costs, people who showed up etc
Cheers MooseJay
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I Got up to 180lbs with abs. I have the "get the girls" look. A far cry from the 159lb starving kid i was. I feel i am at the perfect weight, still agile, look normal in clothes, but girls can tell i lift and always tell me how good i look. I attribute my weight gain to cutting back on sets, going "heavy" every lift(trying to improve strength on every lift), eating 6 meals a day, and staying consistent. Im about 175 now not as lean, but its summer and im enjoying myself. ;D
sorry but you look like...a ton of guys who are looking as good as you; let's hope you're smarter .
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good post, marketing is very important
Dosent matter how many certificates you have, if u lack the tools to self promote and get your face out there you won't attract clients.
You wont be in demand
But if you want to keep those found through a market campaign you better know what you're doing. It's very difficult to get clients.
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I did this because I sick and tired of hearing bullshit excuses onto why they can't do such and such either during their workouts or outside the gym, I personally "fired" 9 clients because of this "I can't do legs because my elbow hurts" " I went off the diet because it was my birthday......for a month" I can't, I can't, I can't finally I told my wife screw it, I'm tired of the BS excuses from flat out lazy people.
Agree I was a PT for many years it can be really fun sometimes. But I started to dislike many clients.
Tons of them looking obese and saying things like:" I hate working out, I would never do it,
but I have a wedding in 3months and I want to lose30lbs so I can look better in front of everybody.
After the wedding I will never work out again, working out is horrible."
So many unmotivated lazy and crazy people.
Some small and fat midget with a thick goldchain, saying:"I lifted weights for 10years
just had a 3week layoff lost some strength, I know everything about working out.
Just so you know I don't warm up, its not my style.... ::)"
I tell him politely to be quiet and just answer my questions.
It takes 2hours to refine and make a complete workout plan according to his needs and prior experience.
then I have to scrap everything when he cant do a single movement correctly, nothing! he cant even stand still
when moving his arms fuck!!! .
He just paid me for 2hours and got nothing since we had to throw away the entire program.
Only money is not enough reward for wasting my time.
Or another client who said:"I only want to have huge pecs and train abs, lets skip all the other bodyparts
they are not important.
How huge can my pecs be if we train them 4times/week for 4months?"
So many that I felt did not deserve my time and help.
I don't want to dislike anyone.
PT ing regular people can be rather frustrating sometimes.
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I have an ACE certification, and personally when I took the test I thought there were alot of bullshit questions on it that had nothing to do with training actual clients. Havent looked at the NCSM or ACSM certifications. One thing though as a personal trainer I think you need to be in good shape and look like you actually train or people wont take what you say seriously. Ive seen many skinnyfat trainers at gyms and personally would take what they say with a grain of salt.
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That's not a burger king cup, is it? ;)
Dunkin Doughnuts bro!
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Dunkin Doughnuts bro!
Speaking of which, I always laugh when I stop there for coffee in the morning, after eating 12 egg whites and a cup of oatmeal, and some BEAST is ordering their "egg muffin" for their breakfast..hahaah :D
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Agree I was a PT for many years it can be really fun sometimes. But I started to dislike many clients.
Tons of them looking obese and saying things like:" I hate working out, I would never do it,
but I have a wedding in 3months and I want to lose30lbs so I can look better in front of everybody.
After the wedding I will never work out again, working out is horrible."
So many unmotivated lazy and crazy people.
Some small and fat midget with a thick goldchain, saying:"I lifted weights for 10years
just had a 3week layoff lost some strength, I know everything about working out.
Just so you know I don't warm up, its not my style.... ::)"
I tell him politely to be quiet and just answer my questions.
It takes 2hours to refine and make a complete workout plan according to his needs and prior experience.
then I have to scrap everything when he cant do a single movement correctly, nothing! he cant even stand still
when moving his arms fuck!!! .
He just paid me for 2hours and got nothing since we had to throw away the entire program.
Only money is not enough reward for wasting my time.
Or another client who said:"I only want to have huge pecs and train abs, lets skip all the other bodyparts
they are not important.
How huge can my pecs be if we train them 4times/week for 4months?"
So many that I felt did not deserve my time and help.
I don't want to dislike anyone.
PT ing regular people can be rather frustrating sometimes.
in most of the gyms i went to, trainers were mostly self centered assholes, wether they are men or women, who basically spent their whole time there chating with their coleagues and misled everytime they could absolutely every single customer.
I remember when there were young skinny newbies using machines with no clue, atrocious form and almost killing themselves, with a trainer 5 feet away discussing his hair gel with another trainer, not eve aware of what was going on.
Another sad thing i saw was a poor ederly woman hanging in the gym trying to use some machines with absolutely no help or support from any trainers there (againt hey were chating ) . I really thought these people had absolutely no will or clue about how to really help people get serious about lifting weights and discovering new healthy habits.
And i'm not even going to talk about the biggest classic; the trainer who shows a puny newcommer wether he's 40 or 20 years old how to perform stupid looking and uterly inefective and ridiculous exercises with an exercise ball.
Another thing; there are nowadays so many juice users with bloated physiques and not a single cut that going to the gym has become a joke; it's almost exactly the oposite of what it should promotes; health , hard work and dedication.
Its especially patehtic and wrong when the steroid users are... STAFF MEMBERS...
I feel for the all the newcommers who got disgusted in their approach of weight lifting by incompetent , narcisistic and self centered assholes trainers who are suposed to be here to actually HELP people, and not blatantly misled em until they go away after they paid.
If you can't get people to do what they have to do, you lack the charisma, the leadership or the will and psychological knowledges to do this job.
Too many trainers just standing there doing nothing worthwile for the others and only caring about their own appearence instead of sharing anything they know with people who truly need it and paid for it.
I also like the "certified trainers" who are ridiculed by natural weight lifters with physiques tentimes better than theirs, or the trainers who dont really want the customers to learn anything fearing they might end looking better than them ...
The gym is not what it pretends to be, and the gym staffs are 9 times out of 10 insecure losers whow eren't smart enough to do anything else.
Again the best way to get into weight lifting is to know someone who s really serious about it and who would teach you the basics and how to get started at home, and eventually join a gym later, but newcommers shouldnt go to the gym without any clue about how things work there.