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Title: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
I've noticed a rather odd trend that most of the responses come in this part of the forum. I'm just curious how a lot of the natural guys on this forum train. Do most do splits still, one or two bodyparts a day, positive failure, once/twice a week, etc.? I was considering changing up my routine to working bodyparts twice a week. Anyone have a noticeable difference by doing this? I'm in an overly analytical mode at the moment.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 10, 2008, 04:00:35 PM
i do 4daysplit 1-2bodypart session not failuretrain evry sesionb good form good nutrion plenty good lots fats hiugh protein mod carbs sports masaage machine swork coipled with free weights for good results
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 10, 2008, 04:01:22 PM
I've noticed a rather odd trend that most of the responses come in this part of the forum. I'm just curious how a lot of the natural guys on this forum train. Do most do splits still, one or two bodyparts a day, positive failure, once/twice a week, etc.? I was considering changing up my routine to working bodyparts twice a week. Anyone have a noticeable difference by doing this? I'm in an overly analytical mode at the moment.

I think its essential to do chest twice a week. Heavy session and light session will work wonders.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: elite_lifter on August 10, 2008, 04:02:03 PM
I've noticed a rather odd trend that most of the responses come in this part of the forum. I'm just curious how a lot of the natural guys on this forum train. Do most do splits still, one or two bodyparts a day, positive failure, once/twice a week, etc.? I was considering changing up my routine to working bodyparts twice a week. Anyone have a noticeable difference by doing this? I'm in an overly analytical mode at the moment.
There is a training board for this newb
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 10, 2008, 04:03:03 PM
There is a training board for this newb
stop...please stop w/ your unasked for bs that everyone is sick of
go post somewhere else u disease
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Method101 on August 10, 2008, 04:03:42 PM
I train 4 days a week, train each bodypart once, high volume.

p.s the guy who said training chest twice a week is ideal is full of shit. The light workout will do nothing but slow down the recovery for the next heavy session.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 04:05:30 PM
I think its essential to do chest twice a week. Heavy session and light session will work wonders.
That's what I was thinking of doing but for all bodyparts. Upper heavy, lower heavy, Back/chest hypertrophy, Legs hyper, shoulders/arms hyper.
I've been reading a lot about the idea that your bodyparts recover quicker than a whole week, etc. Of course that depends on how much you hit them the first time.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: elite_lifter on August 10, 2008, 04:06:41 PM
stop...please stop w/ your unasked for bs that everyone is sick of
go post somewhere else u disease
Everyone is sick of you GAYTROLL
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 10, 2008, 04:07:18 PM
That's what I was thinking of doing but for all bodyparts. Upper heavy, lower heavy, Back/chest hypertrophy, Legs hyper, shoulders/arms hyper
NO NEEDED
TRAIN HARD BODYPART ONE TIME WEEK LET GROW
WE ALL NOT HAVE RONNIE COLEMAN GENTIC WHERE U TRAIN BODYPART TWO TIME WEEK
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Method101 on August 10, 2008, 04:07:22 PM
That's what I was thinking of doing but for all bodyparts. Upper heavy, lower heavy, Back/chest hypertrophy, Legs hyper, shoulders/arms hyper
If you want muscle size, once i week is the best option, i assure you of this.
If you want strength then it can be better to train the bigger bodyparts twice a week, but you are not a powerlifter so why would you give a shit about strength.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
How do you post pics on here so you have an idea of what I look like/coming from? I've tried using image shack before but it came up wrong. I used to train Max-OT style and had some good gains in some areas (chest) but not so in others (legs).
I've just been reading a lot that your body is recovered well-before the week is over (provided you don't train to positive failure or absolute failure on each set) and was just curious as like I said I got rather strong but in some areas was/am lacking.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 10, 2008, 04:30:15 PM
all bodyweight conditioning:

Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 04:49:51 PM
all bodyweight conditioning:


Yeah, I saw that in one of your threads a bit back. I've often told my mom I wished she would have put me in gymnastics at a young age as I wouldn't have to try to get jacked as I would already be.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2008, 04:56:13 PM
That's what I was thinking of doing but for all bodyparts. Upper heavy, lower heavy, Back/chest hypertrophy, Legs hyper, shoulders/arms hyper.
I've been reading a lot about the idea that your bodyparts recover quicker than a whole week, etc. Of course that depends on how much you hit them the first time.
What are you training for? Size, strength?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 04:59:34 PM
Honestly, I like to do both, but I often wonder why I could lift a lot more than a lot of people yet am not as big/lean as them so I guess I am leaning more towards size nowadays.

Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
Honestly, I like to do both, but I often wonder why I could lift a lot more than a lot of people yet am not as big/lean as them so I guess I am leaning more towards size nowadays.

Find a bodybuilding routine/split you like and use it. Lots of different ideas and theories out there, don't let them confuse you.

Remember, K.I.S.S. ;)
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Bluto on August 10, 2008, 05:02:55 PM
kiss is a good band check out the v board for their video "unholy"

you can put on a lot of muscle to kiss

solid advice right there
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2008, 05:04:04 PM
kiss is a good band check out the v board for their video "unholy"

you can put on a lot of muscle to kiss

solid advice right there
LOL.

You're a natural trainer right Bluto?
Why don't you let 'mazrim' in on your training split?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: dearth on August 10, 2008, 05:04:14 PM
I train a double split 7 days a week, consume 5000 calories, and make sure to take my BCAA's and luekic, shitkic & crapkic.

FLEX magazine says you can get "big like the pros" by simply following the routines/diets. Steroids aren't mentioned, so I'm sure a magazine with the integrity of FLEX wouldn't leave them out if they were indeed used.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
Does imageshack not work on here?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Bluto on August 10, 2008, 05:06:49 PM
LOL.

You're a natural trainer right Bluto?
Why don't you let 'mazrim' in on your training split?

no way im not gonna help mazrim get ahead of me what if we end up on stage and he's between me and the sandow and he built his physique using my routine

im like arnold, i give out false training advice



Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on August 10, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
I've noticed a rather odd trend that most of the responses come in this part of the forum. I'm just curious how a lot of the natural guys on this forum train. Do most do splits still, one or two bodyparts a day, positive failure, once/twice a week, etc.? I was considering changing up my routine to working bodyparts twice a week. Anyone have a noticeable difference by doing this? I'm in an overly analytical mode at the moment.

train like mazrim taim
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on August 10, 2008, 05:14:18 PM
I train 4 days a week, train each bodypart once, high volume.

p.s the guy who said training chest twice a week is ideal is full of shit. The light workout will do nothing but slow down the recovery for the next heavy session.


no its not bullshit. it all depends on how you set it up.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: California Muscle on August 10, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Mazrim: Try photobucket.com
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 10, 2008, 05:17:24 PM
Yeah, I saw that in one of your threads a bit back. I've often told my mom I wished she would have put me in gymnastics at a young age as I wouldn't have to try to get jacked as I would already be.

if she had started you young and stuck with it you would be way better than those guys now.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 05:26:43 PM
Hopefully this works. Obvious flexing, under good lighting conditions (my brother took the pic as he has a camera. It was a family gathering so I didn't feel like posing shirtless in front of everyone so it was taken in my exercise room).

(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/mazrim00/P1011655.jpg)
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 05:27:39 PM
Monster 12 inch arms.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 10, 2008, 05:38:00 PM
Hopefully this works. Obvious flexing, under good lighting conditions (my brother took the pic as he has a camera. It was a family gathering so I didn't feel like posing shirtless in front of everyone so it was taken in my exercise room).

(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/mazrim00/P1011655.jpg)

What pose is that... The "I'm getting a blow job from an invisible girl"?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2008, 05:41:43 PM
What pose is that... The "I'm getting a blow job from an invisible girl"?
He's practicing his sheep hold.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on August 10, 2008, 05:41:43 PM
What pose is that... The "I'm getting a blow job from an invisible girl"?

its called: 'saidin is burning like acid in my veins'
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: California Muscle on August 10, 2008, 05:44:01 PM
lol..I thought you'd be hanging yourself by posting your pic, that's why I generously led you to photobucket.  8)

But you're okay.  Just keep hitting it, learn to like it, and you'll be a natural monster in a few years.

By the way, you'd better stay cool and respectful on the board, because your decision to post pics will haunt you otherwise.  lol.  Good luck!
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 05:44:36 PM
its called: 'saidin is burning like acid in my veins'

Lol. I practiced in a mirror a bit when I was bulkier and I thought it looked fairly promising, so I thought it would look good when a somewhat leaner.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 05:46:05 PM
lol..I thought you'd be hanging yourself by posting your pic, that's why I generously led you to photobucket.  8)

But you're okay.  Just keep hitting it, learn to like it, and you'll be a natural monster in a few years.

By the way, you'd better stay cool and respectful on the board, because your decision to post pics will haunt you otherwise.  lol.  Good luck!
Sending a sheep to the slaughter, eh.
I expect to be hung anyway, tbh.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 10, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
hey bro-u have a very good build-props for posting pics-your abs look great

do u have any other pics u could please post for us? any back shots?

leg shots would be awesome! any pics in shorts?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 06:02:56 PM
I rarely take pics, tbh. I only take them when I think I've beaten my previous best photo.
No legs or back. Legs are definitely horrid compared to the rest of me. Like I wrote, they simply didn't respond to Max-OT for some reason. I've started using the hack squat machine as my main leg exercise now (as opposed to squats) and it seems to work better for me than squats do.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 10, 2008, 06:08:44 PM
I rarely take pics, tbh. I only take them when I think I've beaten my previous best photo.
No legs or back. Legs are definitely horrid compared to the rest of me. Like I wrote, they simply didn't respond to Max-OT for some reason. I've started using the hack squat machine as my main leg exercise now (as opposed to squats) and it seems to work better for me than squats do.
well u could post some pics so we could critique u and help u-just a thought
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Moosejay on August 10, 2008, 06:08:51 PM
Monster 12 inch arms.

look more like 15...good work
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 10, 2008, 06:21:20 PM
Thank you.
I'm not sure what they are right now. Last time I measured they were 15.75 flexed, but that was at a bodyweight of about 180.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Dreadlord on August 10, 2008, 09:43:18 PM
well u could post some pics so we could critique u and help u-just a thought

Critique you? Coming up with more excuses for gaytrolling huh natfag83. Lets make sure everyone sees your gaytroll history



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Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: elite_lifter on August 10, 2008, 09:46:01 PM
hey bro-u have a very good build-props for posting pics-your abs look great

do u have any other pics u could please post for us? any back shots?

leg shots would be awesome! any pics in shorts?
Why don't you beg the guy for cock shots you cock gobbler. Fucking sick of your disgusting posts.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Dreadlord on August 10, 2008, 09:54:02 PM
Why don't you beg the guy for cock shots you cock gobbler. Fucking sick of your disgusting posts.

Thats his next request once the requested pics are posted. Plenty of getbiggers have complained that natfag83 is PMing them for their pics.

This guy has no limits
When is Ron going to take out the gaytroll trash
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: pumpster on August 10, 2008, 11:09:04 PM
If you want muscle size, once i week is the best option, i assure you of this.
If you want strength then it can be better to train the bigger bodyparts twice a week, but you are not a powerlifter so why would you give a shit about strength.


You know what i'll go with twice a week per muscle, like most of the top BBs of the last 4 decades, over your hunches. ;) And it doesn't have to be a heavy/light split either, that's just one way.

The standard excuses-more than once a week burns me out, or that drugs are necessary for twice a week is not only bullshit, it's laziness.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Method101 on August 11, 2008, 01:21:16 AM
you look good, but theres some bad news...


you have a mild case of gyno, i believe the term is "puffy nips", if you took drugs they would grow into fullblown titties. And since you have it without taking any drugs, the only way to correct it is surgery costing 3000-5000$.

hope this helps.
 :-X :-\
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: musclehedz on August 11, 2008, 01:53:18 AM
Move this to the 'natty" boards?  ::)


tits
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 11, 2008, 03:12:09 AM
Started a 5x5/3 times a week routine.
Some years will pass...
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: kyomu on August 11, 2008, 03:24:47 AM
Hopefully this works. Obvious flexing, under good lighting conditions (my brother took the pic as he has a camera. It was a family gathering so I didn't feel like posing shirtless in front of everyone so it was taken in my exercise room).

(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/mazrim00/P1011655.jpg)
You have decent muscle.
Frequency of training of each bodyparts is all depend on Intensity,rest condition(Your job:use your body, Can you take a nap?) and nutrition.
If your training intensity is low, you can train twice a week. But I think you will remain the same in this way.
So you train hard. Then rest condition and nutrition are the key to decide your recuperation speed which decide your training frequency.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: KillerMonk on August 11, 2008, 03:29:39 AM
Train Monday,Wensday, Friday train each bodypart 3 times a week very moderate weight only
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Get Rowdy on August 11, 2008, 03:43:12 AM
I agree that training each bodypart twice a week is the go, I like it especially for chest, as long as the volume isnt too great.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: LatsMcGee on August 11, 2008, 03:49:35 AM
I hit each muscle group 2 times a week,  I train between 3 to 4 days a week depending on goals at the time, I train between 30 - 45 minutes each session.  I have done two cycles of PHs in my 11 year training career so I don't know if I can be considered a natty anymore.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 11, 2008, 03:49:40 AM
Good build Mazrim
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: MAXX on August 11, 2008, 05:21:58 AM
i train every bodypart once a week. pretty high volume. heavy mostly but also some light sets at the end.

i'd say, if you have the energy/time to train more often, then do it.

but i would get sick of training if i did it like 8-10 times/ week.

4-5 is enough for me..
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 11, 2008, 05:27:21 AM
just changed my routine last week, had to much cardio

4 days of weightlifting
3 days of cardio
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 11, 2008, 05:36:19 AM
you look good, but theres some bad news...


you have a mild case of gyno, i believe the term is "puffy nips", if you took drugs they would grow into fullblown titties. And since you have it without taking any drugs, the only way to correct it is surgery costing 3000-5000$.

hope this helps.
 :-X :-\
I'm not going to lie to you guys as I detest/hate people who do that. I did run what is supposedly the most mild ph last september (1,4 AD Bold), that supposedly doesn't aromatize, etc. and did everything properly (took precautions above what was recommended and cut it short because I felt terrible on it), however it shut me down still to this day (have seen several doctors, etc.) so I've lost everything and than some unfortunately from where I was in the beginning. It was the worst decision of my life and I'll never do that again. I can say (however) that I am sort of glad that it did because if it had worked out well I may have continued to do it. Fair warning to everyone who messes with that stuff.

Thanks for all of the responses so far, as well.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on August 11, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
dont forsake the light
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Armstrong on August 11, 2008, 09:57:24 AM
I've noticed a rather odd trend that most of the responses come in this part of the forum. I'm just curious how a lot of the natural guys on this forum train. Do most do splits still, one or two bodyparts a day, positive failure, once/twice a week, etc.? I was considering changing up my routine to working bodyparts twice a week. Anyone have a noticeable difference by doing this? I'm in an overly analytical mode at the moment.

Not even sure what "Natural" means anymore.  I guess if it doesnt involve needles than it still counts as natural  :-\
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: mazrim on August 11, 2008, 10:02:02 AM
Guys who do the high volume stuff. Do you often go to cocentric failure on all sets, etc.? I've never done high volume before really. When I first started I did full body pretty much (no legs) every day and I mean every day besides some cardio. Had no idea what I was doing (125 lbs). Ever since I used Max-OT I began to be confused about "failure" training as some people don't consider cocentric faliure as failure at all.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Buffgeek on August 11, 2008, 10:44:01 AM
I am always trying to change up my exercises, poundages, and even bodyparts I hit per day to keep my body offguard and growing.  I cant train heavy like I used to due to a partially torn labrum, but I currently do 4 days a week and just change my split every other week.

Rotation 1:

Day1 -Chest, Biceps

Day2 - Back, Triceps

Day3 - Legs

Day4 - Shoulders, Biceps


Rotation 2:

Day1 -Chest, Triceps

Day2 - Back, Biceps

Day3 - Legs

Day4 - Shoulders
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: MAXX on August 11, 2008, 10:46:54 AM
Guys who do the high volume stuff. Do you often go to cocentric failure on all sets, etc.? I've never done high volume before really. When I first started I did full body pretty much (no legs) every day and I mean every day besides some cardio. Had no idea what I was doing (125 lbs). Ever since I used Max-OT I began to be confused about "failure" training as some people don't consider cocentric faliure as failure at all.
yes failure on everything. pointless otherwise...
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: MAXX on August 11, 2008, 10:48:27 AM
I am always trying to change up my exercises, poundages, and even bodyparts I hit per day to keep my body offguard and growing.  I cant train heavy like I used to due to a partially torn labrum, but I currently do 4 days a week and just change my split every other week.

Rotation 1:

Day1 -Chest, Biceps

Day2 - Back, Triceps

Day3 - Legs

Day4 - Shoulders, Biceps


Rotation 2:

Day1 -Chest, Triceps

Day2 - Back, Biceps

Day3 - Legs

Day4 - Shoulders
you're natural?
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: jaejonna on August 11, 2008, 11:12:12 AM
no one trains on this forum
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Buffgeek on August 11, 2008, 11:16:24 AM
you're natural?

Yep since I was 14.

I only do 1 rotation a week. I just mix it up every week.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: bigkid on August 11, 2008, 11:17:52 AM
day 1. chest/back/tris/delts
day 2. abs cardio
day 3. biceps/forearms/legs
Day 4. Off
Day 5. repeat.

I cant stand volume anymore.  I like blasting a body part for two good exercises and move on.  
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 11, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
Similar routine minus the drugs.


WOOOSSSHHHHHHH  !!!
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: burn2live on August 11, 2008, 11:28:54 AM
I train heavy by my standards and never to failure.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Charlys69 on August 11, 2008, 03:32:47 PM
in general i train the same....medium to low volume, progressive + at the 2. half of each training routine as intense i can be......

i train for over 27 Years now....i did 3 cycles in that time (first after 15 yrs. of training), been off for 3 yrs + 4 months now, and my natural strength level with 44 yrs + 10 Months old is better than ever before....
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: MAXX on August 11, 2008, 03:35:24 PM
Yep since I was 14.

I only do 1 rotation a week. I just mix it up every week.
aight cool. some thick forearms.
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: Ursus on August 11, 2008, 03:36:03 PM
6 days a week though if i want/feel like a break i will.

Big compound basic exercises them pumpy shit once the hard work is done
Title: Re: How do the natural guys train on this forum?
Post by: buffbong on August 11, 2008, 05:27:42 PM
monday
chest 9sets
tris   6sets

tuesday
back 9sets
calves 6sets

wensday off

thursday
shoulders 9sets
biceps     5sets
forearms 2sets

friday
legs 9sets
abs 6sets

sat and sunday off

i normally change the exersizes or rep range every 5 weeks.