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Title: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
I dont know so much about bodybuilding as i just recently started following it, but in my opinion the two best bodybuilders of all time are:

kevin livroni and shawn ray.

what do you think guys?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Rudee on August 21, 2008, 03:17:44 PM
Wow, what an original thread.   This has never been discussed to death here before ever.   
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:19:13 PM
Wow, what an original thread.   This has never been discussed to death here before ever.   

ok sorry about that. was just curious about what you guys think?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 03:49:59 PM
I dont know so much about bodybuilding as i just recently started following it, but in my opinion the two best bodybuilders of all time are:

kevin livroni and shawn ray.

what do you think guys?
Dorian Coleschwarzehaney.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:51:29 PM
ok sorry about that. was just curious about what you guys think?

Zane
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
Dorian Coleschwarzehaney.

never heard of him?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 03:52:59 PM
never heard of him?
he was a beast, 272.7 pounds shredded.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 03:54:17 PM
I dont know so much about bodybuilding as i just recently started following it, but in my opinion the two best bodybuilders of all time are:

kevin livroni and shawn ray.

what do you think guys?


kevin livroni?  ???

GTFO
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Zane

can you post a pic of him? was he better than livroni?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:54:56 PM
can you post a pic of him? was he better than livroni?

You are not trying too hard as a gimmick, dude.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 03:56:05 PM
can you post a pic of him? was he better than livroni?

Are you serious man?  ???
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:56:36 PM
You are not trying too hard as a gimmick, dude.

im not a ''gimmick'', why do you people think i am?

just looking to learn about bodybuilding.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 03:57:46 PM
Are you serious man?  ???

yeah livroni and shawn ray are the two best bodybuilders of all time i think. altho i havent seen every bodybuilder in the world.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: burn2live on August 21, 2008, 04:01:05 PM
Vince Goodrum
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:01:22 PM
yeah livroni and shawn ray are the two best bodybuilders of all time i think. altho i havent seen every bodybuilder in the world.

You are full of shit and should just go away
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:02:31 PM
Vince Goodrum

can you post pic of him?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 04:03:14 PM
yeah livroni and shawn ray are the two best bodybuilders of all time i think. altho i havent seen every bodybuilder in the world.

 ::)

Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:03:26 PM
You are full of shit and should just go away

no need to be rude, havent you ever been a beginner?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
::)



i dont follow? who is best in your opinion?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: burn2live on August 21, 2008, 04:05:53 PM
can you post pic of him?


(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: dantelis on August 21, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
im not a ''gimmick'', why do you people think i am?

just looking to learn about bodybuilding.

There are better places to learn about bodybuilding history than GetBig.  (Though you might try the History - Stories - and Memories thread in GetBig for some good history and stories.) Try these and come back when you are wiser so you can debate with some knowledge:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson61.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson61.htm)
http://bodybuildingreviews.net/Bodybuilding.html (http://bodybuildingreviews.net/Bodybuilding.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilder)  (Ignore the pic labeled "Bodybuilding Flexing."  He's not a real bodybuilder.  [Sorry True Adonis.  Couldn't resist.  ;D])
http://www.musclememory.com/ (http://www.musclememory.com/)  (Good luck finding Dorian Coleschwarzehaney here.)
http://www.sandowmuseum.com/historylinks.html (http://www.sandowmuseum.com/historylinks.html)
http://www.trulyhuge.com/history_of_bodybuilding.html (http://www.trulyhuge.com/history_of_bodybuilding.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBSQQ2ASLBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBSQQ2ASLBA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqhZk8AAIs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqhZk8AAIs&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfqtorMruo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfqtorMruo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgLxRmLJHm4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgLxRmLJHm4)

Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 04:07:33 PM
i dont follow? who is best in your opinion?

well shawn is, considering "kevin livroni" has never even stepped on an IFBB pro stage before (providing he actually exists).


Well, if this is the man i think you're talking about than I would have to agree with you



 8) 8)
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:08:12 PM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/Kelly0108/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)

damn, he is huge. looks like coleman??
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:09:06 PM
how many Oreos do you think Ronnie could eat?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:09:23 PM
There are better places to learn about bodybuilding history than GetBig.  (Though you might try the History - Stories - and Memories thread in GetBig for some good history and stories.) Try these and come back when you are wiser so you can debate with some knowledge:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson61.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson61.htm)
http://bodybuildingreviews.net/Bodybuilding.html (http://bodybuildingreviews.net/Bodybuilding.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilder)  (Ignore the pic labeled "Bodybuilding Flexing."  He's not a real bodybuilder.  [Sorry True Adonis.  Couldn't resist.  ;D])
http://www.musclememory.com/ (http://www.musclememory.com/)  (Good luck finding Dorian Coleschwarzehaney here.)
http://www.sandowmuseum.com/historylinks.html (http://www.sandowmuseum.com/historylinks.html)
http://www.trulyhuge.com/history_of_bodybuilding.html (http://www.trulyhuge.com/history_of_bodybuilding.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBSQQ2ASLBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBSQQ2ASLBA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqhZk8AAIs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksqhZk8AAIs&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfqtorMruo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfqtorMruo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgLxRmLJHm4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgLxRmLJHm4)



thanks man, thats golden!  :) will check them out for sure.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
well shawn is, considering "kevin livroni" has never even stepped on an IFBB pro stage before (providing he actually exists).


Well, if this is the man i think you're talking about than I would have to agree with you



 8) 8)

yeah thats him, i have seen his training video. he is strong as hell. i think he bench presses 400 lbs or so for alot of reps.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Deadpool on August 21, 2008, 04:11:21 PM
chad mower
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:13:00 PM
hahahaa, i was talking to a guy in the gym the other day about Arnold and the guy goes, "man he was strong, i read in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding that he benched 450 for sets of 10." ;D
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:13:10 PM
people if you post names, could you please post pics so we can compare the physiques?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 04:14:15 PM
yeah thats him, i have seen his training video. he is strong as hell. i think he bench presses 400 lbs or so for alot of reps.

495lbs bench press
405 behind the neck presses
1500lbs leg press
100lbs arm curl
300lbs lat pull down

All of this a few weeks out, Kevin Levrone is King.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:15:21 PM
hahahaa, i was talking to a guy in the gym the other day about Arnold and the guy goes, "man he was strong, i read in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding that he benched 450 for sets of 10." ;D

damn, thats pretty close to the World record i think. mosti have seen anyone bench is when a big dude did like 275 for several reps (didnt count the number of reps). but he has been working out for 7 or maybe 8 years.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:15:58 PM
495lbs bench press
405 behind the neck presses
1500lbs leg press
100lbs arm curl
300lbs lat pull down

All of this a few weeks out, Kevin Levrone is King.
the "405 behind the neck press" was actually 4 plates per side for half reps on the Smith machine, still very impressive but far from a legitimate full range barbell 405 behind the neck press.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:16:37 PM
damn, thats pretty close to the World record i think. mosti have seen anyone bench is when a big dude did like 275 for several reps (didnt count the number of reps). but he has been working out for 7 or maybe 8 years.
yeah it would be a world record if it was true. ::)
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
495lbs bench press
405 behind the neck presses
1500lbs leg press
100lbs arm curl
300lbs lat pull down

All of this a few weeks out, Kevin Levrone is King.

495? damn. how can the tendons support that amount of weight? i have never understood that. personally i can bench like 200 for 5-6 reps and i definately feel it in my shoulder tendons.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Pollux on August 21, 2008, 04:18:25 PM
My undisputed 3 - in order...  8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/43/images/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_991.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_104.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/167/images/Sergio_Oliva_66.jpg)
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:19:00 PM
yeah it would be a world record if it was true. ::)

arnold had the world record back in the 70s tho. some fat guy probably has it now.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 04:21:26 PM
the "405 behind the neck press" was actually 4 plates per side for half reps on the Smith machine, still very impressive but far from a legitimate full range barbell 405 behind the neck press.

fair enough, its on a smith machine but why would u say they were half reps?
He did go all the way down
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
My undisputed 3 - in order...  8)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/43/images/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_991.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/44/images/Flex_Wheeler_104.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/167/images/Sergio_Oliva_66.jpg)

damn...arnold looks great in that pic. who is the guy in the old pic (last pic). he looks great too. the middle guy looks like a turtle hehe.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Pollux on August 21, 2008, 04:24:05 PM
damn...arnold looks great in that pic. who is the guy in the old pic (last pic). he looks great too. the middle guy looks like a turtle hehe.

Are you for real? That's Sergio Oliva! The 'signature pose' didn't give it away?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:24:53 PM
I have noticed that arnolds legs arent as big as the legs of todays bodybuilders. which is a good thing in my opinion. too big legs look funny. id be happy if i get my legs to arnolds size. dont want legs like ronnie coleman.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Pollux on August 21, 2008, 04:26:02 PM
dont want legs like ronnie coleman.

Don't worry. I don't think you can EVER achieve that.  ;)
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:27:14 PM
Are you for real? That's Sergio Oliva! The 'signature pose' didn't give it away?

sorry never heard of him before. i never seen such a pose, but he looks great.

do you know his training routine? do you have more information about him?
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:28:25 PM
hahahhaa, this guy is great. ;D
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: QuakerOats on August 21, 2008, 04:29:00 PM
fair enough, its on a smith machine but why would u say they were half reps?
He did go all the way down
no he didn't, he went to the top of the ear.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:29:17 PM
Don't worry. I don't think you can EVER achieve that.  ;)

true  :) i wonder how much he can squat.

and im not sure i wanna start using drugs. but i heard if you wanna compete , you have to. altho i have a friend who says he didnt use drugs when he competed. but he was basically half the size of coleman.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 21, 2008, 04:29:26 PM
I have noticed that arnolds legs arent as big as the legs of todays bodybuilders. which is a good thing in my opinion. too big legs look funny. id be happy if i get my legs to arnolds size. dont want legs like ronnie coleman.

thats a bad picture of Arnold, hes very young there

In his prime he actually had great legs albeit not large compared to today
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
no he didn't, he went to the top of the ear.

i saw that video too, but i dont remember so much from it. livroni is very strong. he retired last year i heard so i never got to see him compete live.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:35:31 PM
thats a bad picture of Arnold, hes very young there

In his prime he actually had great legs albeit not large compared to today

im gonna buy his book. i have been looking for it on ebay, but havent found it yet. hopefully it has some good training routines.

Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
im gonna buy his book. i have been looking for it on ebay, but havent found it yet. hopefully it has some good training routines.



Nah...Arnold probably didn't have any good training routines.

Nah.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
Nah...Arnold probably didn't have any good training routines.

Nah.

did you read his book?

he must have had great routines or he wouldnt have become so big. they probably have better routines nowdays tho. but i think the modern routines make the legs too big.
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: spinnis on August 21, 2008, 04:57:31 PM
Well atlest hes funny  ;D
Title: Re: who is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
did you read his book?

No...didn't know he had one

he must have had great routines or he wouldnt have become so big. they probably have better routines nowdays tho. but i think the modern routines make the legs too big.