Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on August 25, 2008, 05:06:35 PM
-
PBW counts 17 men who have qualified and will be doing the show. That has to make Tim Fogarty happy. Of course, some riff raff might qualify at the Atlantic Pro
-
I think its in the promoter's best interest to keep the numbers limited..more call outs and fairer comparisons.
-
PBW counts 17 men who have qualified and will be doing the show. That has to make Tim Fogarty happy.
only if they then rank all 17
-
only if they then rank all 17
don't after a certain placing they all get lumped into ' 16th place ' ?
-
don't after a certain placing they all get lumped into ' 16th place ' ?
they have the last 3 years. that was my point. if you're good enough to get into they Olympia, the judges should take the time to rank everyone.
-
there should be no more than 12 competitors at the o
-
Did Will Harris qualify?
-
how many scrubs qualified at the ny pro? 3 or 5? personally i think only the top 2 of any show w/ exception of O and arnold should get the qualification
-
22 are qualified. Besides Ronnie Coleman, who are the other four eligible competitors who are passing up this year's Olympia??
-
Branch Warren and Kai Greene are out for sure. Not too sure of the other two
-
That japanease guy is out.
-
there should never be 20 guys in the O.
it's supposed to be the elite, no need to have the complete ifbb in it
-
there should never be 20 guys in the O.
it's supposed to be the elite, no need to have the complete ifbb in it
There are over 200 athletes in the IFBB...
If over 20 guys qualify, then so be it....
You still need a SHOW to put out there for the paying fans, and the companies who put up a lot of money for the Expo, etc....
-
17 men so far? Until the ninjas come out and attack at least 1 competitior.
-
There are over 200 athletes in the IFBB...
If over 20 guys qualify, then so be it....
You still need a SHOW to put out there for the paying fans, and the companies who put up a lot of money for the Expo, etc....
very true Bob, but I think 17 guys are enough
-
Can we get a list of the 17 who qualified?
-
The Olympia needs to get more selective for the qualifying criteria. What's the point of having a 20-25 competitor line-up and only allowing 15 to perform their posing routine. Can you imagine qualifying for the biggest show in bodybuilding, getting one callout in pre-judging and then being told that you can't pose at the night show. It's disrespectful to these guys, who really have no business being there in the first place.
-
See http://www.ifbbpro.com/2008-olympia-qualifiers/ (http://www.ifbbpro.com/2008-olympia-qualifiers/) for the current qualifiers.
-
Branch Warren and Kai Greene are out for sure. Not too sure of the other two
Martinez isnt doin it
-
I liked it better when it was just Arnold, Sergio, Franco, Serge and Zane going for the Mr. O in 72...nowadays you get all these 2nd and 3rd tier guys wasting everyone's time with tinkle toe dancing or robot moves..they need to make it 1st place finishers only and last years top 5.
-
There are over 200 athletes in the IFBB...
If over 20 guys qualify, then so be it....
You still need a SHOW to put out there for the paying fans, and the companies who put up a lot of money for the Expo, etc....
I don't disagree with you Chick, however who's to say that having the top 12-15 pros is not putting on a show for the fans?
Currently, with over 20+ athletes, with a good number with no chance of winning, how is it entertaining to the fans for a 16th - 20+
place competitors to take up stage time? If you say you want to reward those who qualified for the O by giving them stage time,
I understand that, but I'd say do it like the smaller shows like the NY Pro or Colorodo, where each one gets 30sec to 1 minute and get
on with the top 12-15.
I see no reason for a show to be more than 2hrs. More is not necessarily better.
-
I only go to the Mr O finals, and that is just about all i can handle.
the expo is good also.
-
1 Jay Cutler1 USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
2 Dexter Jackson USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
3 Ronnie Coleman1 USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
4 Dennis Wolf Germany 2007 Mr. Olympia
5 Melvin Anthony USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
6 Phil Heath USA 2008 Iron Man Pro
7 Gustavo Badell Puerto Rico 2008 Iron Man Pro
8 Moe Elmoussawi New Zealand 2008 Iron Man Pro
9 Silvio Samuel Spain 2008 Iron Man Pro
10 Johnnie Jackson USA 2008 Iron Man Pro
11 Toney Freeman USA 2008 New Zealand Elite Pro
12 Sergey Shelestov2 Russia 2008 New Zealand Elite Pro
13 Dennis James Germany 2008 Tampa PBW Championships
14 David Henry USA 2008 Tampa PBW Championships
15 Abiad Fouad Canada 2008 Europa Supershow
16 Craig Richardson USA 2008 Houston Pro
17 Leo Ingram USA 2008 Houston Pro
18 Kevin English USA 2008 New York Pro
19 Ronny Rockel Germany 2008 New York Pro
I Guess 2 more from this list are not doing it..
-
1 Jay Cutler1 USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
2 Dexter Jackson USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
3 Ronnie Coleman1 USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
4 Dennis Wolf Germany 2007 Mr. Olympia
5 Melvin Anthony USA 2007 Mr. Olympia
6 Phil Heath USA 2008 Iron Man Pro
7 Gustavo Badell Puerto Rico 2008 Iron Man Pro
8 Moe Elmoussawi New Zealand 2008 Iron Man Pro
9 Silvio Samuel Spain 2008 Iron Man Pro
10 Johnnie Jackson USA 2008 Iron Man Pro
11 Toney Freeman USA 2008 New Zealand Elite Pro
12 Sergey Shelestov2 Russia 2008 New Zealand Elite Pro
13 Dennis James Germany 2008 Tampa PBW Championships
14 David Henry USA 2008 Tampa PBW Championships
15 Abiad Fouad Canada 2008 Europa Supershow
16 Craig Richardson USA 2008 Houston Pro
17 Leo Ingram USA 2008 Houston Pro
18 Kevin English USA 2008 New York Pro
19 Ronny Rockel Germany 2008 New York Pro
I Guess 2 more from this list are not doing it..
Ronnie isn't doing it, that's for damn sure.
-
Jay Cutler vs Dexter Jackson ?
-
I don't disagree with you Chick, however who's to say that having the top 12-15 pros is not putting on a show for the fans?
Currently, with over 20+ athletes, with a good number with no chance of winning, how is it entertaining to the fans for a 16th - 20+
place competitors to take up stage time? If you say you want to reward those who qualified for the O by giving them stage time,
I understand that, but I'd say do it like the smaller shows like the NY Pro or Colorodo, where each one gets 30sec to 1 minute and get
on with the top 12-15.
I see no reason for a show to be more than 2hrs. More is not necessarily better.
Eventually, the top 10-15, arent the top 10-15....people retire, get older, move on, etc.
It's a big domino effect...we have shows that are Olympia qualifyers, pro's place in the top 3...they qualify, fair and square. Making the qualifying process tougher would only limit the smaller shows with evern less numbers of pro's, less people going to watch, and less sponsorship...which equates into less money.
-
It's a big domino effect...we have shows that are Olympia qualifyers, pro's place in the top 3...they qualify, fair and square.
some shows the top 5 qualify. Is 5th place at the Ironman really the best of the best?
Making the qualifying process tougher would only limit the smaller shows with evern less numbers of pro's, less people going to watch, and less sponsorship...which equates into less money.
Or...making it harder to qualify adds more drama to the smaller shows. more top tier bodybuilders enter to win a spot in the Olympia. more exciting local shows means more people watching which means more money.
it is easy to figure out the optimum number of people to invite to the Olympia: everyone who qualifies should be allowed to perform at the evening show.
-
some shows the top 5 qualify. Is 5th place at the Ironman really the best of the best?
Or...making it harder to qualify adds more drama to the smaller shows. more top tier bodybuilders enter to win a spot in the Olympia. more exciting local shows means more people watching which means more money.
it is easy to figure out the optimum number of people to invite to the Olympia: everyone who qualifies should be allowed to perform at the evening show.
I would never have a top 5 that qualify, not my call...
I would have no automatic qualifying spots from the Olympia, other than the winner...
Concerning the smaler shows, sorry, it wouldn't work that way....in reality, just less pro's willing to spend the time and money, only to get by a Dexter Jaxson, or a Victor Martinez who are entered.
-
I would never have a top 5 that qualify, not my call...
I would have no automatic qualifying spots from the Olympia, other than the winner...
strange, when I tried to argue those things in the "Re: Bob Chic will petition to SEPARATE the 202s from the Open Class" thread, your response was (as it always is) "stop complaining, everything is fine the way it is, we the powers that be in the IFBB know what we're doing".
-
bodybuilding show are fucking boring.
-
strange, when I tried to argue those things in the "Re: Bob Chic will petition to SEPARATE the 202s from the Open Class" thread, your response was (as it always is) "stop complaining, everything is fine the way it is, we the powers that be in the IFBB know what we're doing".
Really? is that what I said?
I've said for many years now that I wouldn't have Olympia top 6 requalify automatically....actuall y, I was arguing against it back when it was top 10, and had input on reducing it to 6...
My argument against your call for only winners of the shows qualifying, was the issue....looks like your "muscle memory" is showing signs of age.