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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: QuakerOats on August 27, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
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this should answer everyone's questions as to who's better, no version of Dorian could touch this in a million years. :o
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Both them f@#ks helped killed bbing. Well it was sick and dying already and they helped it along. Never been a fan of science experiments.
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Both them f@#ks helped killed bbing. Well it was sick and dying already and they helped it along. Never been a fan of science experiments.
if you can't appreciate that picture then you're not a fan of bodybuilding, ask ANY IFBB pro what they think of that shot and they'll tell you it's incredible.
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if you can't appreciate that picture then you're not a fan of bodybuilding, ask ANY IFBB pro what they think of that shot and they'll tell you it's incredible.
So if I'm not a Ronnie Coleman fan I'm not a bodybuilding fan? Damn your face must be so far up this guys ass when he turns corners it must break your nose.
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So if I'm not a Ronnie Coleman fan I'm not a bodybuilding fan? Damn your face must be so far up this guys ass when he turns corners it must break your nose.
i didn't say that you have to be a Ronnie fan but if you can't respect that level of mass and condition then you must be more into Men's Fitness.
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So if I'm not a Ronnie Coleman fan I'm not a bodybuilding fan? Damn your face must be so far up this guys ass when he turns corners it must break your nose.
hahaha okay "Siphon77" ::)
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Both them f@#ks helped killed bbing. Well it was sick and dying already and they helped it along. Never been a fan of science experiments.
So how exactly did bodybuilding die as you claim? Seems alive and well to me...
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i didn't say that you have to be a Ronnie fan but if you can't respect that level of mass and condition then you must be more into Men's Fitness.
"Siphon77" prefers these type of pictures
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Ronnie > Dorian. Period. Hands down. End of discussion. Class is dismissed.
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Ronnie > Dorian. Period. Hands down. End of discussion. Class is dismissed.
agreed. but wait for one of the dorian nut huggers to come in here and try explaining how dorian had a better side chest pose ::)
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this should answer everyone's questions as to who's better, no version of Dorian could touch this in a million years. :o
Yates fans will say:
a) He's not hitting the pose correctly, and
b) He doesn't have Dorian's "graininess" which you can only see in person
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So how exactly did bodybuilding die as you claim? Seems alive and well to me...
It is cemented that it will never ever be mainstream. Freak status for life now.
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is that pic photoshopped? it seriosly looks too good
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Brutal gyno and 12 inch forearms & calves ::)
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HEHEHE!!!
Yeah. The top 20 bodybuilders are all millionaires. Coming close to matching the multi-million dollar contracts seen in baseball, football, basketball and even hockey. ESPN and all the major sport media outlets are all over the upcoming Mr. Olympia. Hell, even the New York Times is on it.
Bodybuilding is just huge.
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THEY BOTH SUCK COCK END OFF DISSCUSSION NOW WATCH YOUR MOUTHS CONVICTS!!!
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Yes. This is the most impressive bbing pic I have ever seen.
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if you can't appreciate that picture then you're not a fan of bodybuilding, ask ANY IFBB pro what they think of that shot and they'll tell you it's incredible.
This picture is truly incredible and to know that picture was taken at a guest appearance, not even contest day.
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So how exactly did bodybuilding die as you claim? Seems alive and well to me...
yeah bodybuilding is flourishing and growing like wild fire...
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Another lights-out shot.
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Both them f@#ks helped killed bbing. Well it was sick and dying already and they helped it along. Never been a fan of science experiments.
Who do you think looks better, and what are you doing here?
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if you can't appreciate that picture then you're not a fan of bodybuilding, ask ANY IFBB pro what they think of that shot and they'll tell you it's incredible.
All Drugs!!!
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Brutal gyno and 12 inch forearms & calves ::)
Bad gyno and NO calves, not even 12 inches.......
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Brutal gyno and 12 inch forearms & calves ::)
You're trying way too hard.
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Ronnies chest KILLS Dorians!!!!
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Bad gyno and NO calves, not even 12 inches.......
I thought Coleman had his glands out? Surprised he would get raging gyno this far down the line.
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Ronnies chest KILLS Dorians!!!!
Ronnie kills Dorian everywhere but calves. Fact
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Ronnie never defeated Yates, Yates defeated Ronnie plenty of times, facts are facts. :'(
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this case has gone cold
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Ronnie never defeated Yates, Yates defeated Ronnie plenty of times, facts are facts. :'(
::) and someone played center field for the Yankees before Mickey Mantle.
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only thing that Dorian has on Ronnie is calves.
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Both a great bodybuilders, lets just get over it, shits getting old.
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Both them f@#ks helped killed bbing. Well it was sick and dying already and they helped it along. Never been a fan of science experiments.
Nor the English language.
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Ronnie never defeated Yates, Yates defeated Ronnie plenty of times, facts are facts. :'(
Classic IFBB brainwashing.
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only thing that Dorian has on Ronnie is calves.
and abs (at his best)
but that is it.
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and abs (at his best)
but that is it.
ND'S last and desperate defence is that the better bodybuilder is not judged on a sum of bodyparts, that's the defence he's trying to use in the Nasser vs. Dorian thread too after I pointed out that Yates only had better forearms, calves, and back
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:)
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(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy18.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy108.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy105.jpg)
pumpster: in the last pic, the "skin" tatoo is for you.
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Those shots don't touch big Ron.
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Seriously are we still discussing this. Gayer than oiled up men in thongs. ::)
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Seriously are we still discussing this. Gayer than oiled up men in thongs. ::)
Who is better: Dorian or Ronnie?
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The white one.
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Those shots don't touch big Ron.
where were you from 92-97 when ronnie was more striated with better symmetry and balance?
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I meant the pictures posted of Dorian don't come close to Ronnie.
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THEY BOTH SUCK COCK END OFF DISSCUSSION NOW WATCH YOUR MOUTHS CONVICTS!!!
You forgot to log into you "El_Pajero" account huh? ::)
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and abs (at his best)
but that is it.
you still dont get it.
its not the parts, but how they look as a whole.
you could argue that ronnie's chest, arms, delts, legs, etc. are better than dorian's - or are they?
ronnie, despite his "better" bodyparts, doesnt even come close to how yates looks as a whole shown here:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy27.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy174.jpg)
even though people had better bodyparts than yates, he made it work in the end, where and when it counted -throughout the contest.
you can post all the bad pics of yates you want, you cant change history.
especially the part where dorian beat ronnie for 6 years, which you cant get over.
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.
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you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever,
Funny... I still thought it was Arnold.
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The white one.
;D
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Well said, Honest!
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.
Exactaly. You, Sir, obviously understand bodybuilding and are, thus, able to appreciate Dorian's greatness.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved
Once again according to Dorian fans you conveniently can't trust all the hundreds of high quality competition photos that show Ronnie to be better, you had to be there in person because Dorian had qualities that could only be appreciated with the naked eye. But you can trust the 6 or so black and white offseason shots of Dorian where he's wearing socks because he looks great in them, so you can trust those. Lets just compare the competition photos okay, cause I think that's all the proof thats really needed. :)
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It all depends on if you like your musclebears white or colored really.
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Gayer than the gayer than thread... ::)
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Ronnie never defeated Yates, Yates defeated Ronnie plenty of times, facts are facts. :'(
Yates was at his peak. Ronnie wasn't. Think about it, bonehead.
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.
Good post.
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Good post.
Bad reply.
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Bad reply.
+1
Always love the "you had to be there" fallback line. I could say the same thing about anyone.
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you still dont get it.
its not the parts, but how they look as a whole.
you can post all the bad pics of yates you want, you cant change history.
especially the part where dorian beat ronnie for 6 years, which you cant get over.
Uh, so now the claim is that he had good aesthetics and everything worked well together. ::)
Quote from: honest on August 27, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever,
Actually he's more renown as "the Columbu of the 90s".
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.
The judging criterion ought to be changed then considering most people in their right minds would say Ronnie > Dorian
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Who do you think looks better, and what are you doing here?
Ronnie was more complete where as Dorian looked like more of a freak. Even at his size Coleman except for his 20 month year pregnancy belly was more symetrical. If I had to chose from the two Ronnie but I think they both are horrible for the sport.
As a champion Dorian was a better promoter of the sport. Didn't do the flash could put together a complete sentence and let his body do the talking.
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Once again according to Dorian fans you conveniently can't trust all the hundreds of high quality competition photos that show Ronnie to be better, you had to be there in person because Dorian had qualities that could only be appreciated with the naked eye. But you can trust the 6 or so black and white offseason shots of Dorian where he's wearing socks because he looks great in them, so you can trust those.
;D
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If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever,
Who the hell is this 'everyone' you are referring to?
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Ronald Coleman is the best bodybuilder ever.
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As a champion Dorian was a better promoter of the sport. Didn't do the flash could put together a complete sentence and let his body do the talking.
Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show... Gimme a break!
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Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show... Gimme a break!
I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.
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Arnold himself had tough words on Dorian not doing anything to promote bodybuilding. You can argue that Ronnie isn't the most articulate speaker, but dis he really need to be? I've never seen him living before everybody got their autograph, or being rude to a fan.
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this should answer everyone's questions as to who's better, no version of Dorian could touch this in a million years. :o
Gyno! :P
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"Siphon77" prefers these type of pictures
I prefer these. :-*
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Gyno! :P
::) i love how you clowns see a picture of a shredded 300 pound guy and then say shit like "long fingernails" or "one ear is bigger than the other".
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Who the hell is this 'everyone' you are referring to?
3 people comprises "everyone" lol
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Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show... Gimme a break!
hahaha there goes another convenient excuse. Pasty brit skinheads everywhere relate to the keg.
I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.[/quote]
+1
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I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.
That's just one white man's opinion.
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That's just one white man's opinion.
;D
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Everyone being judges who judged both at their best, guys who gave both men, Mr Olympias. Im not a fan of either physique, Ronnie is freak, the most muscular person ever no doubt, just wasnt the best bodybuilder we have ever seen, his structure and mid section prevented him from being that, im not talking about belly bloat or his oil loaded calves, judging has ignored this, but his lack of side hamstrings,lack of detail in his calves, lack of detail to his mid section, and his structural faults of long limbs, short torso, make it difficult to give it to him over yates, who genetically before he tore his arms had no obvious weaknesses, and whos structure when being viewed in the relaxed round was so much better than Ronnies. Bodybuilding sadly for you guys is not just the most muscular person winning, which is what you guys only argue. Ronnie is the most muscular man ever, but not the best bodybuilder we have ever seen.
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this should answer everyone's questions as to who's better, no version of Dorian could touch this in a million years. :o
If you judge by one pic only , then neither Ronnie or Yates could touch this .....
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hahaha there goes another convenient excuse. Pasty brit skinheads everywhere relate to the keg.
Far from being a a pasty brit skinhead.
Dude, read well my post, I am not relating at all with Dorian. I said he did nothing for promoting bodybuilding.
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If you judge by one pic only , then neither Ronnie or Yates could touch this .....
Dillett was a real freak too... I always wondered why he never won a Sandow.
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Dillett was a real freak too... I always wondered why he never won a Sandow.
From Bodybuildingdungeon discussion on Dillett:
"Even Arnold mentioned this in his Bodybuilding Encyclopedia, talking about how important it is to accentuate your strengths and de-emphasize the weaknesses; something like: "When I saw the gigantic Paul Dillet backstage before a competition, I thought, 'My God, this man is unbeatable!' But when he actually went onstage, he didn't know how to present his physique properly and it really hurt him with the judges.""
Sounds like Dillett had all the right assetts, but couldn't pose to save his life. Too bad. He had a great physique.
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If you judge by one pic only , then neither Ronnie or Yates could touch this .....
::) Dillett looks like an underfed kitten hooked on crack compared to Coleman in this picture.
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Dillett was a real freak too... I always wondered why he never won a Sandow.
Poor posing, no back... should I go on?
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Poor posing, no back... should I go on?
Not worth my time, but if you want to... feel free.
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If you judge by one pic only , then neither Ronnie or Yates could touch this .....
Great structure to bad he couldn't bring the whole package
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Great structure to bad he couldn't bring the whole package
Or pose worth a shit :)
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::) Dillett looks like an underfed kitten hooked on crack compared to Coleman in this picture.
;)
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2 things I hate to do, 1 is take Ronnie over Dorian and 2 is agree with Quakere Oats but that pic of Ronnies is RETARDED and can't be touched not now not in 2025 Olympia line up. sorry.
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Ronnie is the most muscular man ever, but not the best bodybuilder we have ever seen.
Well, according to these people you don't know a damn thing you're saying.
Greatest/ Best/Most Dominant/ Mr. Olympia/Bodybuilder/Physique Of All-Time
1) Flex stating that Ronnie is the most biggest, hardest, shredded bodybuilder in history. Flex has competed against both guys in their prime:
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
2) Jean Pierre Fux stating that Ronnie has the best physique ever. Jean has competed against both guys:
"Jean Pierre Fux - http://www.criticalbench.com/Jean-Pierre-Fux.htm
"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."
3) John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia stating that Ronnie has presented a physique that could not be equaled (which also means that Ronnie has surpassed "everyone", that includes your hero yates):
John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website
"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."
4) John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website for the 2000 Mr. Olympia
"Many people in the sport have also talked about the fact that Ronnie Coleman may be the best Mr. Olympia ever!"
5) George De Pirro Flex Senior Editor Says that Ronnie is the most dominant pro bodybuilder of all-time:
FLEX Article talking about bodybuilding (Ronnie Coleman) from 96-06 Mr. O
"Anyone who denies Coleman's dominion over the past decade is truly kidding himself."
"The fact that the two contests under consideration basically bookend his reign at the top further solidifies his claim as the most dominating pro bodybuilder of all time."
6) Ron Harris says that Ronnie is tied with Haney as the greatest Mr. Olympia ever:
Ronnie Coleman - Bodybuilder Profile - 8X Mr. Olympia
A living legend in our sport
By Ron Harris
http://www.bodybuilderprofiles.com/ronnie-coleman.htm
"280-pound Ronnie emerged triumphant and joined Haney as the greatest Olympia champion ever."
7) Steve Blechman states that Ronnie is the greatest Mr. Olympia of all-time:
MD, page 44, Feb. 04, -Steve Blechman: "Ronnie Coleman is not only the greatest Mr. O of all time, he is also one of the oldest"
8) MR. OLYMPIA: EXPECTING THE UNEXPECTED
By: SHAWN PERINE
http://www.flexonline.com/news/245
"The man many consider the greatest bodybuilder who’s ever lived (Cutler himself has paid Coleman such a tribute) will no doubt squeeze every last ounce of potential from his superannuated self in his fight to regain his supremacy."
9) BACK TO WORK
http://www.flexonline.com/training/97
"He’s still, in the estimation of many, the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."
10) Dan Soloman on Ronnie Coleman 2003 at the 2004 Mr. Olympia:
“Last year Ronnie Coleman presented what we thought was the most extraordinary overall package in the history of the sport.”
11) Ben Weider – 2005 Mr Olympia:
“Ronnie Coleman will go down in history as the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time.”
12) Allan Donnelly - Flex Issue November 2007 – Day In The Life Of Ronnie Coleman:
“In bodybuilding there has been no greater champion than Ronnie Coleman.”
“But he emerged – seemingly from nowhere - as perhaps the most dominant force the sport has ever seen.”
“I can’t help but wonder if the man who could be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder in history has one more great performance yet to give.”
13) Flex Wheeler at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie is the biggest, hardest and most complete Mr. Olympia that ever walked the stage. Ronnie will go down as far as right now, unless somebody topples him in eight years. He’s the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time. I find it very hard to believe that somebody to be able to super exceed that.
14) Dave Palumbo at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia champion of All-Time. He has the most career wins.”
15) Dan Soloman & Gunter Schlierkamp at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“We are watching arguably the greatest bodybuilder of All-time compete possibly in his final contest.”
“Ronnie Coleman at his very best was the greatest bodybuilder to ever live and it’s going to be a long time until someone comes along and prove other wise.
Gunter Schlierkamp: Yes.”
16) David Robson - 2007 Mr. Olympia Review:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson315.htm
“Not the perfect ending for Ronnie but he will leave the sport secure in the knowledge that he is the greatest pro bodybuilder ever to grace the stage.”
17) Bob Cicherillo - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Show #90, October 1, 2007:
“What we just witnessed was history in the making. Ronnie would stop short of saying that he is the greatest of All-Time. I actually took that opportunity to say, you know what Ronnie, you can say it man. You are the best bodybuilder of All-Time.”
18) Written by Raymond Cassar - 2007 Muscletime Olympia Report
http://www.muscletime.com/news/latest/2007-mr-olympia-analysis/
“First I need to get one thing out of the way: There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best – No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic).”
19) Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”
20) FLEX ARTICLE - O CONTENDERS READY FOR BUSINESS
“Cutler, meanwhile, spoke about his bold promise to shave his famous head of hair if he loses and even called Coleman "the greatest bodybuilder of all time"
21) Flex Team – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
“We’ve said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which you won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable.”
21) Is Ronnie the Greatest Flexer of them all?
By Lonnie Teper MD December 2005
I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras;
(Then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian.)
Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage
could have beaten Coleman.
So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs-
you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes-but Coleman has really taken it to the next
level, as all magnificent conquerors do.
Quote, Joe Weider:
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all times. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Eryk Bui:
Invincible Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman is the best of all time.
Victor Martinez:
He's the best ever...All past Olympians had something missing. But not Ronnie; he has everything.
Mike Matarrazo:
"Yeah, he's he's the best that's ever lived. I don't know what the future holds, but he's certainly the best I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Quincy Taylor: He's built up past the point of anything I've ever seen.
Melvin Anthony: Asked if Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever..
Absolutely! He's in a class by himself.
Toney Freeman asked the same..
For Sure! He's at the top of the food chain.
Branch Warren: Yes, He's the best ever.
Capriese Murray:
Yeah, Definately. None of the past Mr. Olympias could possibly match his size and conditioning.
Craig Richardson: Asked if Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever..
Yes. He didn't have the greatest body 10 years ago, now he's the best in the world.
Stan McCrary: Yes, He's the best ever.
Chris Cormier: I'd say back in 98-99 he was the best ever.
Aaron Baker: Yes, He's the best ever. He has produced a package that has yet to be surpassed.
Don Long: I am going to have to say yes he is the best ever.
Ron Harris: I think Ronnie is the best Mr. O ever.
Greg Valentino: Ronnie Coleman is the greatest bodybuilder ever.
Joe McNeal: Yes, He's the best ever. Without a doubt! That shouldn't even be a question.
King Kamali: Yes, Ronnie is the best Mr. O of all time, period!
Charles Glass: As of right now, Ronnie is the best of all time.
Dorian Yates: I think it's a little hard for me to comment as I think I am the greatest ever! (Laughs)"
Interesting Note during this question:
There were a couple of others who said Arnold or hinted at Haney but only one said Yates,
and that was the man himself.
Ryan Mackie - My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com):
"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."
Paul Dillet stating that Ronnie has set standards that no one can measure up to. (yates name not even mentioned)
Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004
"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Sergio or Flex and now Ronnie."
Bob Cicherillo - PBW "2007 Olympia Prediction Show!" Show #89, September 24, 2007
"When we talk about Ronnie Coleman, we almost have to talk about him as different versions of Ronnie. You got the 1998 & 2001 version of Ronnie. At 100% there's not a soul on this planet or any other that can touch him. He would walk out on that stage, dominate everybody and walk away with his 9th Sandow."
Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004
"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."
Melvin Anthony - 09/18/2007 OLYMPIA COUNTDOWN Part 1
“Ronnie is in a league by himself”
David Robson on Ronnie Coleman 2006 Mr. Olympia Preview:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson204.htm
“It has been said many times that Ronnie is in a class of his own”
Craig Titus on Ronnie Coleman Mr. Olympia 2003 Preview:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dan11.htm
“Ronnie is an absolute freak of nature both on stage and in the gym. If anyone would like to argue with that, please feel free to purchase his training tape and see exactly what a freak does. Never have I seen such strength when it comes to a pro bodybuilder. Now on stage Ronnie has everything he needs to blow the competition away. He's in a class all by himself, period! No one and I mean NO ONE is even remotely close to the amount of muscle he carries and the density at which he carries it. Now we could go body part by part, but still he's the man with legs, shoulders, arms, delts, chest, he has them all beat. The only body part that he could get beat on is his calves.”
Myron Mielke on Ronnie Coleman:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mielke29.htm
“Why not save the best for last? Ronnie has brought several looks to the stage through his bodybuilding career. Many agree his best look was at his Arnold Classic win in 2001. In 2003 he blew everyone away with the most incredible size and conditioning ever seen in a bodybuilding competition.”
Milos Sarcev - FLEX Issue September 2000:
FLEX Magazine Question: “In a line up of freaks, can the aesthetics of your physique earn you a better than your 10th-place finish last year?”
Milos Sarcev: “Absolutely. I’m looking forward to the 2000 Mr. Olympia because the contest is wide open – with the exception of first place, of course, which is occupied by the one bodybuilder who is both a mass monster and extremely symmetrical and aesthetic. Other than Ronnie, no one is unbeatable.”
I have asked this a million times, but none of the nuthuggers have replied back. Show us all 5 quotes from different people stating that yates is the greatest of all-time. I've been waiting over 1 year now. ;D
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Poor posing, no back... should I go on?
Stock one-sided excuses that never acknowledge that Yates was more flawed than Dillet.
Real reason: Weider always knew that guys like Oliva and Dillet winning = lower magazine and supplement sales.
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Stock one-sided excuses that never acknowledge that Yates was more flawed than Dillet.
Real reason: Weider always knew that guys like Oliva and Dillet winning = lower magazine and supplement sales.
Most consumers of bodybuilding magazines are North-American. How is having a North American(Dillet) winning the Olympia worst for business than having a Brit win it? If you are blaming racism, then explain why the two Mr.Olympia who won the most Olympia titles are both black? We are all holding our brreaths waiting for you to enlighten us. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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do these comments apply to the sack of crap that got a 4th place gift at the 07 olympia?
Well, according to these people you don't know a damn thing you're saying.
Greatest/ Best/Most Dominant/ Mr. Olympia/Bodybuilder/Physique Of All-Time
1) Flex stating that Ronnie is the most biggest, hardest, shredded bodybuilder in history. Flex has competed against both guys in their prime:
Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004
"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."
2) Jean Pierre Fux stating that Ronnie has the best physique ever. Jean has competed against both guys:
"Jean Pierre Fux - http://www.criticalbench.com/Jean-Pierre-Fux.htm
"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."
3) John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia stating that Ronnie has presented a physique that could not be equaled (which also means that Ronnie has surpassed "everyone", that includes your hero yates):
John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website
"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."
4) John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website for the 2000 Mr. Olympia
"Many people in the sport have also talked about the fact that Ronnie Coleman may be the best Mr. Olympia ever!"
5) George De Pirro Flex Senior Editor Says that Ronnie is the most dominant pro bodybuilder of all-time:
FLEX Article talking about bodybuilding (Ronnie Coleman) from 96-06 Mr. O
"Anyone who denies Coleman's dominion over the past decade is truly kidding himself."
"The fact that the two contests under consideration basically bookend his reign at the top further solidifies his claim as the most dominating pro bodybuilder of all time."
6) Ron Harris says that Ronnie is tied with Haney as the greatest Mr. Olympia ever:
Ronnie Coleman - Bodybuilder Profile - 8X Mr. Olympia
A living legend in our sport
By Ron Harris
http://www.bodybuilderprofiles.com/ronnie-coleman.htm
"280-pound Ronnie emerged triumphant and joined Haney as the greatest Olympia champion ever."
7) Steve Blechman states that Ronnie is the greatest Mr. Olympia of all-time:
MD, page 44, Feb. 04, -Steve Blechman: "Ronnie Coleman is not only the greatest Mr. O of all time, he is also one of the oldest"
8) MR. OLYMPIA: EXPECTING THE UNEXPECTED
By: SHAWN PERINE
http://www.flexonline.com/news/245
"The man many consider the greatest bodybuilder who’s ever lived (Cutler himself has paid Coleman such a tribute) will no doubt squeeze every last ounce of potential from his superannuated self in his fight to regain his supremacy."
9) BACK TO WORK
http://www.flexonline.com/training/97
"He’s still, in the estimation of many, the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."
10) Dan Soloman on Ronnie Coleman 2003 at the 2004 Mr. Olympia:
“Last year Ronnie Coleman presented what we thought was the most extraordinary overall package in the history of the sport.”
11) Ben Weider – 2005 Mr Olympia:
“Ronnie Coleman will go down in history as the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time.”
12) Allan Donnelly - Flex Issue November 2007 – Day In The Life Of Ronnie Coleman:
“In bodybuilding there has been no greater champion than Ronnie Coleman.”
“But he emerged – seemingly from nowhere - as perhaps the most dominant force the sport has ever seen.”
“I can’t help but wonder if the man who could be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder in history has one more great performance yet to give.”
13) Flex Wheeler at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie is the biggest, hardest and most complete Mr. Olympia that ever walked the stage. Ronnie will go down as far as right now, unless somebody topples him in eight years. He’s the greatest Mr. Olympia of All-Time. I find it very hard to believe that somebody to be able to super exceed that.
14) Dave Palumbo at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“Ronnie Coleman is the greatest Mr. Olympia champion of All-Time. He has the most career wins.”
15) Dan Soloman & Gunter Schlierkamp at the 2007 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:
“We are watching arguably the greatest bodybuilder of All-time compete possibly in his final contest.”
“Ronnie Coleman at his very best was the greatest bodybuilder to ever live and it’s going to be a long time until someone comes along and prove other wise.
Gunter Schlierkamp: Yes.”
16) David Robson - 2007 Mr. Olympia Review:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson315.htm
“Not the perfect ending for Ronnie but he will leave the sport secure in the knowledge that he is the greatest pro bodybuilder ever to grace the stage.”
17) Bob Cicherillo - Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Show #90, October 1, 2007:
“What we just witnessed was history in the making. Ronnie would stop short of saying that he is the greatest of All-Time. I actually took that opportunity to say, you know what Ronnie, you can say it man. You are the best bodybuilder of All-Time.”
18) Written by Raymond Cassar - 2007 Muscletime Olympia Report
http://www.muscletime.com/news/latest/2007-mr-olympia-analysis/
“First I need to get one thing out of the way: There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best – No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic).”
19) Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”
20) FLEX ARTICLE - O CONTENDERS READY FOR BUSINESS
“Cutler, meanwhile, spoke about his bold promise to shave his famous head of hair if he loses and even called Coleman "the greatest bodybuilder of all time"
21) Flex Team – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
“We’ve said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which you won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable.”
21) Is Ronnie the Greatest Flexer of them all?
By Lonnie Teper MD December 2005
I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras;
(Then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian.)
Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage
could have beaten Coleman.
So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs-
you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes-but Coleman has really taken it to the next
level, as all magnificent conquerors do.
Quote, Joe Weider:
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all times. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Eryk Bui:
Invincible Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman is the best of all time.
Victor Martinez:
He's the best ever...All past Olympians had something missing. But not Ronnie; he has everything.
Mike Matarrazo:
"Yeah, he's he's the best that's ever lived. I don't know what the future holds, but he's certainly the best I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Quincy Taylor: He's built up past the point of anything I've ever seen.
Melvin Anthony: Asked if Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever..
Absolutely! He's in a class by himself.
Toney Freeman asked the same..
For Sure! He's at the top of the food chain.
Branch Warren: Yes, He's the best ever.
Capriese Murray:
Yeah, Definately. None of the past Mr. Olympias could possibly match his size and conditioning.
Craig Richardson: Asked if Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder ever..
Yes. He didn't have the greatest body 10 years ago, now he's the best in the world.
Stan McCrary: Yes, He's the best ever.
Chris Cormier: I'd say back in 98-99 he was the best ever.
Aaron Baker: Yes, He's the best ever. He has produced a package that has yet to be surpassed.
Don Long: I am going to have to say yes he is the best ever.
Ron Harris: I think Ronnie is the best Mr. O ever.
Greg Valentino: Ronnie Coleman is the greatest bodybuilder ever.
Joe McNeal: Yes, He's the best ever. Without a doubt! That shouldn't even be a question.
King Kamali: Yes, Ronnie is the best Mr. O of all time, period!
Charles Glass: As of right now, Ronnie is the best of all time.
Dorian Yates: I think it's a little hard for me to comment as I think I am the greatest ever! (Laughs)"
Interesting Note during this question:
There were a couple of others who said Arnold or hinted at Haney but only one said Yates,
and that was the man himself.
Ryan Mackie - My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com):
"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."
Paul Dillet stating that Ronnie has set standards that no one can measure up to. (yates name not even mentioned)
Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004
"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Sergio or Flex and now Ronnie."
Bob Cicherillo - PBW "2007 Olympia Prediction Show!" Show #89, September 24, 2007
"When we talk about Ronnie Coleman, we almost have to talk about him as different versions of Ronnie. You got the 1998 & 2001 version of Ronnie. At 100% there's not a soul on this planet or any other that can touch him. He would walk out on that stage, dominate everybody and walk away with his 9th Sandow."
Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004
"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."
Melvin Anthony - 09/18/2007 OLYMPIA COUNTDOWN Part 1
“Ronnie is in a league by himself”
David Robson on Ronnie Coleman 2006 Mr. Olympia Preview:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson204.htm
“It has been said many times that Ronnie is in a class of his own”
Craig Titus on Ronnie Coleman Mr. Olympia 2003 Preview:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dan11.htm
“Ronnie is an absolute freak of nature both on stage and in the gym. If anyone would like to argue with that, please feel free to purchase his training tape and see exactly what a freak does. Never have I seen such strength when it comes to a pro bodybuilder. Now on stage Ronnie has everything he needs to blow the competition away. He's in a class all by himself, period! No one and I mean NO ONE is even remotely close to the amount of muscle he carries and the density at which he carries it. Now we could go body part by part, but still he's the man with legs, shoulders, arms, delts, chest, he has them all beat. The only body part that he could get beat on is his calves.”
Myron Mielke on Ronnie Coleman:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mielke29.htm
“Why not save the best for last? Ronnie has brought several looks to the stage through his bodybuilding career. Many agree his best look was at his Arnold Classic win in 2001. In 2003 he blew everyone away with the most incredible size and conditioning ever seen in a bodybuilding competition.”
Milos Sarcev - FLEX Issue September 2000:
FLEX Magazine Question: “In a line up of freaks, can the aesthetics of your physique earn you a better than your 10th-place finish last year?”
Milos Sarcev: “Absolutely. I’m looking forward to the 2000 Mr. Olympia because the contest is wide open – with the exception of first place, of course, which is occupied by the one bodybuilder who is both a mass monster and extremely symmetrical and aesthetic. Other than Ronnie, no one is unbeatable.”
I have asked this a million times, but none of the nuthuggers have replied back. Show us all 5 quotes from different people stating that yates is the greatest of all-time. I've been waiting over 1 year now. ;D
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Dillett was a real freak too... I always wondered why he never won a Sandow.
His back.