THE ONE PICTURE THAT PUTS TO REST THE RONNIE VS. DORIAN ISSUE

[suckmymuscle]

If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.

  Exactaly. You, Sir, obviously understand bodybuilding and are, thus, able to appreciate Dorian's greatness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Antony77]

If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved

Once again according to Dorian fans you conveniently can't trust all the hundreds of high quality competition photos that show Ronnie to be better, you had to be there in person because Dorian had qualities that could only be appreciated with the naked eye. But you can trust the 6 or so black and white offseason shots of Dorian where he's wearing socks because he looks great in them, so you can trust those. Lets just compare the competition photos okay, cause I think that's all the proof thats really needed. 

[danielson]

It all depends on if you like your musclebears white or colored really.

[Deicide]

Gayer than the gayer than thread...

[Pollux]

Ronnie never defeated Yates, Yates defeated Ronnie plenty of times, facts are facts. 

Yates was at his peak. Ronnie wasn't. Think about it, bonehead.

[johnny]

If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.

Good post.

[Pollux]

Good post.

Bad reply.

[pumpster]

Bad reply.

+1

Always love the "you had to be there" fallback line. I could say the same thing about anyone.

[pumpster]

you still dont get it.

its not the parts, but how they look as a whole.


you can post all the bad pics of yates you want, you cant change history. 

especially the part where dorian beat ronnie for 6 years, which you cant get over.

Uh, so now the claim is that he had good aesthetics and everything worked well together.

Quote from: honest on August 27, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever,

Actually he's more renown as "the Columbu of the 90s".

[Camel Jockey]

If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever, overall he was incredible, the condition from head to toe was something Ronnie never achieved, He lost all side poses as his hamstrings to the side were non existent compared to Yates, to the rear as he has oil shot calves and higher lats and less lower lat development, and overall his torso to the front showed a man with huge long legs, big long arms and a very short torso with no hint of a midsection, thats why you lot dont judge, you have to take an educated look at the sum of all parts when judging, something that isnt going to happen here thats for sure.

The judging criterion ought to be changed then considering most people in their right minds would say Ronnie > Dorian

[Siphon77]

Who do you think looks better, and what are you doing here?

Ronnie was more complete where as Dorian looked like more of a freak.  Even at his size Coleman except for his 20 month year pregnancy belly was more symetrical.  If I had to chose from the two Ronnie but I think they both are horrible for the sport.  

As a champion Dorian was a better promoter of the sport.  Didn't do the flash could put together a complete sentence and let his body do the talking.  

[NeoSeminole]

Once again according to Dorian fans you conveniently can't trust all the hundreds of high quality competition photos that show Ronnie to be better, you had to be there in person because Dorian had qualities that could only be appreciated with the naked eye. But you can trust the 6 or so black and white offseason shots of Dorian where he's wearing socks because he looks great in them, so you can trust those.

[SquatAss]

If you saw them both at their best in person, not in some magazine, in Olympia shape you will know why everyone still rates Yates as the best ever,

Who the hell is this 'everyone' you are referring to?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Ronald Coleman is the best bodybuilder ever.

[Tigerman]

As a champion Dorian was a better promoter of the sport.  Didn't do the flash could put together a complete sentence and let his body do the talking.  

Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show...  Gimme a break!

[tu_holmes]

Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show...  Gimme a break!

I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.

[Tigerman]

Arnold himself had tough words on Dorian not doing anything to promote bodybuilding. You can argue that Ronnie isn't the most articulate speaker, but dis he really need to be? I've never seen him living before everybody got their autograph, or being rude to a fan.

[chester_bbb]

this should answer everyone's questions as to who's better, no version of Dorian could touch this in a million years.

Gyno!

[chester_bbb]

"Siphon77" prefers these type of pictures

I prefer these.

[QuakerOats]

Gyno!

i love how you clowns see a picture of a shredded 300 pound guy and then say shit like "long fingernails" or "one ear is bigger than the other".

[pumpster]

Who the hell is this 'everyone' you are referring to?

3 people comprises "everyone" lol

[pumpster]

Dorian NEVER promoted the sport. He was called the Shadow because he used to disappear every year after the Mr. O, hiding in England. Ronnie always visited schools, did guest appearences, charity events, organized his npc show...  Gimme a break!

hahaha there goes another convenient excuse. Pasty brit skinheads everywhere relate to the keg.

I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.[/quote]

+1

[marcus]

I've heard reports of Dorian being a dick as well... Never heard of Big Ron being a jackass.

That's just one white man's opinion.

[tu_holmes]

That's just one white man's opinion.

[honest]

Everyone being judges who judged both at their best, guys who gave both men, Mr Olympias. Im not a fan of either physique, Ronnie is freak, the most muscular person ever no doubt, just wasnt the best bodybuilder we have ever seen, his structure and mid section prevented him from being that, im not talking about belly bloat or his oil loaded calves, judging has ignored this, but his lack of side hamstrings,lack of detail in his calves, lack of detail to his mid section, and his structural faults of long limbs, short torso, make it difficult to give it to him over yates, who genetically before he tore his arms had no obvious weaknesses, and whos structure when being viewed in the relaxed round was so much better than Ronnies. Bodybuilding sadly for you guys is not just the most muscular person winning, which is what you guys only argue. Ronnie is the most muscular man ever, but not the best bodybuilder we have ever seen.