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Title: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 07:43:33 AM
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Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: BayGBM on August 29, 2008, 07:49:26 AM
New Gov. of Alaska...  Five kids.  One just born this year... a special needs child...  Doesn't she have bigger fish to fry?  I'm surprised she would want to be VP.  By any measure, she has a steep learning curve ahead of her.  Is she ready to be President if McCain croaks a month into his presidency?

I don't like his politics, but Romney strikes me as a more qualified choice.  Oh well, I think this helps Obama.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: anvil on August 29, 2008, 07:50:41 AM
I'd do her.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 07:50:50 AM
New Gov. of Alaska...  Five kids.  One just born this year... a special needs child...  Doesn't she have bigger fish to fry?  I'm surprised she would want to be VP.  By any measure, she has a steep learning curve ahead of her.  Is she ready to be President if McCain croaks a month into his presidency?

I don't like his politics, but Romney strikes me as a more qualified choice.  Oh well, I think this helps Obama.

She is very attractive...reflects many moms out there...looks like my mom when she was younger

Wonder what Hillary thinks?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 07:51:09 AM
18 months of governor experience..... that's all she has.


Less than Obama... and she'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: smaul on August 29, 2008, 07:51:39 AM
18 months of governor experience..... that's all she has.


Less than Obama... and she'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Have you seen Battlestar Galactica?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 07:53:01 AM
Have you seen Battlestar Galactica?

Yes, I have and yum yum!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Big_Tymer on August 29, 2008, 07:56:56 AM
excellent choice  ::)

im beginning to think the usa is fucked either way come november.

i think its time to leave
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 07:57:32 AM
Complete nobody with lack of experience.  ;D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Heywood on August 29, 2008, 07:59:32 AM
McCain really dropped the ball here.  He's bought in to all the Obama flim-flam and simply want to out-do Obama's "excitement."  Very very bad move.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 29, 2008, 08:01:07 AM
they want the Hillary dems.  Might be a smart move
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 08:02:26 AM
Clearly the best "person" for the job.  Guess he couldn't find a black crippled gay woman with a hispanic name.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:03:54 AM
they want the Hillary dems.  Might be a smart move
She is FAR from being democratic.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:05:20 AM
McCain really dropped the ball here.  He's bought in to all the Obama flim-flam and simply want to out-do Obama's "excitement."  Very very bad move.

yeah, I am not sure how a 44-year old woman with a grand total of 18 MONTHS of governor experience is going to handle the job as President if needed.

Mccain is 71 years old and has numerous bouts with cancer.  

I can't imagine this young woman staring down Putin if the cold war starts back up.  I can't imagine her as the most powerful person in the free world.

It's an exciting pick designed to win over hilary voters.
But IMO, obama BARELY has enough experience.
She does not.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: musclecenter on August 29, 2008, 08:05:41 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_mccain_veepstakes;_ylt=Ams5isgxm7u7YDFJYGEBltes0NUE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_mccain_veepstakes;_ylt=Ams5isgxm7u7YDFJYGEBltes0NUE)


(pic courtesy of AP Photo/Al Grillo, File)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:07:15 AM
she was a stunner back in the day.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tre on August 29, 2008, 08:07:54 AM
Good choice.

I thought Pawlenty was a better choice (yesterday), but hard to argue with this one.

She's no Christie Todd Whitman in terms of executive abilities, but she's PERFECT for the ticket in this election climate.

As I've been saying, those GOP strategists really did their homework. 

I expect Palin to give McCain a nice bump in places like Washington and Oregon.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:08:20 AM
The ONLY reason he has picked her is because she supports drilling in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge and the building of pipelines all over Alaska, which is NOT a long term solution.


Or, he could be after one last cheap thrill as his previous trysting character allows.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: BayGBM on August 29, 2008, 08:08:27 AM
Choosing a woman was smart, but Christine Todd Whitman (former NJ Gov.) would have been a better choice.  She is much more qualified and could have insulated McCain from being associated with Bush since they fired her as head of the EPA.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 29, 2008, 08:08:40 AM
She'll attract all the dykes that felt left out due to there being no Obama/Hillary ticket
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 29, 2008, 08:09:11 AM
She is FAR from being democratic.

but she's a woman and that might be enough for them.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 08:10:06 AM
she was a stunner back in the day.

Looks like she's sucked a lot of cock in her time.


(dammit Mars, I'm doin' your job here!)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Rearden Metal on August 29, 2008, 08:10:39 AM
This has got to make people scared. McCain is oooold and if he makes it one term nevermind two it would be an accomplishment.

Nobody in thier right mind wants this woman as Prez if McCain were to kick it.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: musclecenter on August 29, 2008, 08:11:43 AM
Why not Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger  ??? ???
No MILFs
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: bigkid on August 29, 2008, 08:12:15 AM
Excellent choice.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:12:59 AM
but she's a woman and that might be enough for them.
No.  Hillary is the ONLY woman they want to see in the Whitehouse.  Their Hillary love is a whole lot stronger than to abandon her.  Afterall, they still have plans in 2012.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: musclecenter on August 29, 2008, 08:14:05 AM
Why not Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger  ??? ???
No MILFs
But Arnold could be no-show at GOP convention  ::)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_gop_convention_schwarzenegger_3 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_gop_convention_schwarzenegger_3)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 08:15:03 AM
yeah, I am not sure how a 44-year old woman with a grand total of 18 MONTHS of governor experience is going to handle the job as President if needed.

Mccain is 71 years old and has numerous bouts with cancer.  

I can't imagine this young woman staring down Putin if the cold war starts back up.  I can't imagine her as the most powerful person in the free world.

It's an exciting pick designed to win over hilary voters.
But IMO, obama BARELY has enough experience.
She does not.

She deftly stared down her own, corrupt party in the state of Alaska more than once
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:15:51 AM
She deftly stared down her own, corrupt party in the state of Alaska more than once
City Council can be tough.  ;)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:16:31 AM
This has got to make people scared. McCain is oooold and if he makes it one term nevermind two it would be an accomplishment.

Nobody in thier right mind wants this woman as Prez if McCain were to kick it.


She has MINIMAL experience.

18 months as governor of a cold state.  Minus two summer vacations.

it's a poly to grab all the hilary voters, and the young voters who will vote for a hot mom.

If she gets in... wow.. she has no experience...

ZERo foreign policy experience.

She was a small town mayor 4 years ago.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 08:17:35 AM
No.  Hillary is the ONLY woman they want to see in the Whitehouse.  Their Hillary love is a whole lot stronger than to abandon her.  Afterall, they still have plans in 2012.

Adonis, what do you REALLY think is stewing in Hill's mind right now?

She was THIS close to being nom for pres run, then VP, NOW

a much younger, more attractive woman is very likely to supplant her from being

the FIRST......
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 29, 2008, 08:17:51 AM
Obama's gotten most of his experience by just running  ;D

This woman runs a rural state that most americans don't care for unless they're watching some discovery channel episode.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: shiftedShapes on August 29, 2008, 08:18:34 AM
No.  Hillary is the ONLY woman they want to see in the Whitehouse.  Their Hillary love is a whole lot stronger than to abandon her.  Afterall, they still have plans in 2012.

I hope you're right.

Intrade still has Obama at 59 and McCain at 40.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
4 years ago, she was the part-time mayor of a small town in Alaska.

Today she wants to run the world.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: bigkid on August 29, 2008, 08:19:21 AM
If you think this is a pick just to grab some of Hillary's voters, you're sorely mistaken.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 08:20:15 AM
4 years ago, she was the part-time mayor of a small town in Alaska.

Today she wants to run the world.

Only in America

Viva La America!!!! 8) ;D :D :)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:20:42 AM
Adonis, what do you REALLY think is stewing in Hill's mind right now?

She was THIS close to being nom for pres run, then VP, NOW

a much younger, more attractive woman is very likely to supplant her from being

the FIRST......
Hillary is beyond that.  Trivial things such as that do not matter to her.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
Hillary is beyond that.  Trivial things such as that do not matter to her.

Surely you Jest, yes?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on August 29, 2008, 08:22:46 AM
yeah, I am not sure how a 44-year old woman with a grand total of 18 MONTHS of governor experience is going to handle the job as President if needed.

Mccain is 71 years old and has numerous bouts with cancer.  

I can't imagine this young woman staring down Putin if the cold war starts back up.  I can't imagine her as the most powerful person in the free world.

It's an exciting pick designed to win over hilary voters.
But IMO, obama BARELY has enough experience.
She does not.
but even all the gay men agree she is better looking than obama himself...
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:23:30 AM
She's hot, for sure!

But she has about 1/2 the experience that Obama has.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Karl Kox on August 29, 2008, 08:24:18 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_mccain_veepstakes;_ylt=Ams5isgxm7u7YDFJYGEBltes0NUE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_mccain_veepstakes;_ylt=Ams5isgxm7u7YDFJYGEBltes0NUE)


(pic courtesy of AP Photo/Al Grillo, File)

I'd do her
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:24:55 AM
Surely you Jest, yes?
No I do not.  Hillary is and was not in it because of her hubris.  She is who she is because of what she stands for.  Hillary was not running just so she could be the first woman in office, she was running on the basis of her policies.  She certainly is not a vain person.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: affy on August 29, 2008, 08:25:42 AM
There goes McCanes inexperience excuse he had on Obama

Biden is going to own her in the VP debates
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:26:09 AM
Obama's gotten most of his experience by just running  ;D

This woman runs a rural state that most americans don't care for unless they're watching some discovery channel episode.
I disagree with that as do the facts.
]Obama holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.
-------------------------

As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.<61>

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:

** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountabi...


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.ht...

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /



Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

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Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: anvil on August 29, 2008, 08:26:30 AM
I'd do her

I'm guessing you've already cracked one off  to her  :D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Danny on August 29, 2008, 08:26:59 AM
She's hot, for sure!

But she has about 1/2 the experience that Obama has.

Good point and as you mentioned in one of your ealier posts ....just imagine her having to deal with the russians or iranians.....that would be a total fiasco.   :)  Compare her to Biden ....he's like a seasoned hunter , and she cant even hold a fucking rifle. :)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on August 29, 2008, 08:27:06 AM
She's hot, for sure!

But she has about 1/2 the experience that Obama has.

EXPERIENCE dont mean squat anymore under united states we want CHANGE....homelss people are now FINALLY TIRED of being homeless and under obama presidency they will be millionaires.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2008, 08:31:51 AM
Mccain just GAVE the election to Obama.  Good lord.  What the hell is Karl Rove thinking?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 08:32:58 AM
18 months of governor experience..... that's all she has.


Less than Obama... and she'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:33:48 AM
No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.
Biden has been a Senator since age 30, the minimum age requirement.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2008, 08:35:18 AM
No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

You don't really beleive that, do you?  I mean seriously.  You think she's more qualified than Obama?  More qualified than Biden?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:36:52 AM

No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

Wrong!

Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans.  Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.


18 months.  There it is.  Before that, she was part-time mayor. 

She passed an ethics bill, and cut some pork spending. 

I'm sure we'll see their resumes side by side, Joe. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 08:37:29 AM
Biden has been a Senator since age 30, the minimum age requirement.

He's only been a legislator. He's never ran a State or held any executive office that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 08:38:02 AM
Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.[5] The ex-mayor and sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed.[5] Palin kept her campaign promises, reducing her own salary, as well as reducing property taxes by 60%.[5] She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning by an even larger margin.[5][14] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[8]

In 2002, Palin made an unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a four-way race. After Frank Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in mid-term to become governor, Palin interviewed to be his possible successor. Instead, Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa Murkowski.[5]

Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[15] where she served from 2003 to 2004 until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest.[5] After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[16] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.[5]


Governorship
 
Governor Palin visits a wounded soldier in Landstuhl, Germany, July 2007In 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary.[5] Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles.[5] Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.[13]

When elected, Palin became the first woman to be Alaska's governor, and the youngest governor in Alaskan history at 42 years old upon taking office. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood. She was also the first Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.

Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.[10][17] "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."[11]

She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young[18] and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings.[10]

In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often in the 90s.[11] A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval rating at 80%.[19]


Energy policies
Palin's tenure is noted for her independence from big oil companies, while still promoting resource development.[11][10] Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.[20]

Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded thirty-five appointments made by Murkowski in the last hour of his administration, including the appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff Jim Clark to the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority.[21][22] Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign.[23]

In March 2007, Palin presented the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) as the new legal vehicle for building a natural gas pipeline from the state's North Slope.[24] Only one legislator, Representative Ralph Samuels, voted against the measure,[25] and in June Palin signed it into law.[26][27] On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that a Canadian company, Transcanada, was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[28][29]

In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans $100-a-month energy debit cards. She also proposed providing grants to electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates.[30] She subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas tax.[31][32]


Social issues
Palin is strongly pro-life, a supporter of capital punishment[citation needed], and belongs to Feminists for Life.[13]

She opposes same-sex marriage, but she has stated that she has gay friends and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.[13] While the previous administration did not implement same-sex benefits, Palin complied with a state Supreme Court order and signed them into law.[33] She disagreed with the Supreme Court ruling[34] and supported a democratic advisory vote from the public on whether there should be a constitutional amendment on the matter.[35] Alaska was one of the first U.S. states to pass a constitutional ban on gay marriage, in 1998, along with Hawaii.[36]

Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.[34]


Matanuska Maid Dairy closure
When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the Dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin learned that only the Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation.[11][37] The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the board.[37] The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.[38] In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.[39][40]


Budget
In the first days of her administration, Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet purchased (on a state government credit account) by the Murkowski administration. The state placed the jet for sale on eBay three times. In August 2007, the jet was sold for $2.7 million.[41]

Shortly after becoming governor, Palin canceled a contract for construction on an 11-mile (18-kilometer) gravel road outside of Juneau to a mine. This reversed a decision made in the closing days or hours of the Murkowski Administration.[42]

In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history.[43] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.[44]


Commissioner dismissal
On July 11, 2008, Governor Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down.[45][46] Monegan alleged shortly after his dismissal that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[47] In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[48]

Governor Palin asserts that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[49] Palin acknowledges that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[49] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions.

In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that "Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time."[50] The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[51] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[49][52]

Wooten and the police union alleged that the governor had improperly released his employment files in his divorce case. However, McCann's attorney released a signed waiver from Wooten demonstrating that Wooten had authorized the release of his files through normal discovery procedures.[53][54]

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 29, 2008, 08:38:03 AM
I disagree with that as do the facts.
]Obama holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.
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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.<61>

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:

** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountabi...


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.ht...

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /



Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

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Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

You just eslapped Coach in the face.  ;D

Thanks for those facts; I did not know most of them. You do have to admit that Obama has gained some serious experience from his campaign though.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: knny187 on August 29, 2008, 08:38:41 AM
Reminds me of Tony's therapist in Soprano's...Dr Melfi
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:39:53 AM
Palin also was investigated for corruption and abuse of power.  Nice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin


Joe, you can now see Obama and Palin's work side by side.  Obama destroys her.  It's not even debatable.


The woman is highly inexperienced

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:40:13 AM
He's only been a legislator. He's never ran a State or held any executive office that I'm aware of.
That comparison doesn`t make any sense.  By your standards you think mayor of a small town for a brief term equates to more experience than being an effective Senator for 30 plus years.

You, sir, are a moron.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Karl Kox on August 29, 2008, 08:40:23 AM
I'm guessing you've already cracked one off  to her  :D

No I am gonna need a nude or at least a swim suit shot for the.   Hell I will even settle for her in jeans with a little camel toe.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
You just eslapped Coach in the face.  ;D

Thanks for those facts; I did not know most of them. You do have to admit that Obama has gained some serious experience from his campaign though.

No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those. Obama reaks of corruption as it's been well documented.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Rearden Metal on August 29, 2008, 08:42:21 AM
No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

So now you're just jumping behind this selection? When Obama chose Biden, I was taken aback. But now it's looking like a brilliant play.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:42:26 AM
Guys - please don't even foster a debate here - look at their record.

Obama has worked at state and national lawmaking level, authored almost 900 bills, co-sponsoring 1900.

he's on foreign relations committee.

She has been governor of alaska for 18 months, minus vacations.




Oh, and I don't think she's ever traveled to Iraq either, joe? ;)

Remember how bad you criticized Obama for only being there twice?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 08:42:39 AM
That comparison doesn`t make any sense.  By your standards you think mayor of a small town for a brief term equates to more experience than being an effective Senator for 30 plus years.

You, sir, are a moron.

In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 29, 2008, 08:43:24 AM
Smart choice IMO.

Votes go for the top of the ticket so I think I'd rather have the inexperienced minority or woman at VP rather than at the top.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:43:29 AM
No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those.

yes, Joe.

Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

No denying this one.  Palin is a part-time mayor and 18-month governor.

Grossly inexperienced.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:44:13 AM
No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those. Obama reaks of corruption as it's been well documented.
Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills



Prove it. Show us the documentation.  Show us.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:44:36 AM
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.

For 18 months, minus vacations.  And she did have to fight abuse-of-power charges at that time as well.

I think there are about 500 republicans MORE QUALIFIED than her, Joe.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 08:45:54 AM
jesus christ , what a bad choice for the Rep.

Going after the Hillary vote would work if they got Hillary, this lady has no exp and like said b4 , is one heartbeat away from the Presidency.... if McCain dies  (like all 80 year olds) then we have Miss February 1987 as the president ...


ps id hit
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
I was comparing your executive vs. legislative standards.  ::)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
you know why all the TV shows in alsaka have the common thread of tons of guys and no chicks, cause there are no chicks in Alaska....she might be one of the 12 bitches in the whole state worth banging ... and like Alaska has so much in common with the mainland..... 90% of Alaska is uninhabited hahahahah
they fucked this one up, they were better off with Liberjew  or Romney ....here comes the backlash .. this bitch better start sucking dick, she has like 100,000,000 million to do ... lol hahahahha
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
Epic Friendship ...

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 08:50:51 AM
Here is the REALLY fearful thought.

If Mccain used his poor judgement as evidenced by his Vice-President selection, one must shudder to think as to whom he shall choose for his cabinet and other appointed positions.

His Judicial selections would be a downright frightening debacle.  This should be a huge red flag.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: musclecenter on August 29, 2008, 08:51:32 AM
 :)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:52:22 AM
she was on CNBC Monday, rattled by a standard line of VP questioning by maria Bartiromo.

Giggly and shit.  
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 08:53:51 AM
Here is the REALLY fearful thought.

If Mccain used his poor judgement as evidenced by his Vice-President selection, one must shudder to think as to whom he shall choose for his cabinet and other appointed positions.

His Judicial selections would be a downright frightening debacle.  This should be a huge red flag.
I agree.... how can this lady step up to the the president  if the old man croaks
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 08:54:47 AM
I got a text from my brother, he said that one of her daughters has a nice Rack ....

getbig, verify this VP duaghter rack-gate...


thanks

JJ
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Eric2 on August 29, 2008, 08:58:05 AM
I wonder what her bung hole looks like? There has to be some photo's somewhere.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 08:58:18 AM
If Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin got the job as running mate for Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), count her as one of the most surprised.

In an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”

In fact, she said she doesn’t know what the vice president does.


Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.
Palin replied: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

Her evident distaste for the office would be part of her appeal: It would show McCain is running an anti-Washington, reformist campaign.

But it also points to a huge negative for her: It robs Republicans of their most effective argument against Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) — that he lacks experience.

Before Palin’s election in December 2006 as the state’s first woman governor, she served terms on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska (population 6,700), and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 08:58:26 AM
lol a woman.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2008, 08:59:36 AM
I agree.... how can this lady step up to the the president  if the old man croaks

According to TheCoach, since she's been Governor of Alaska for less than 2 years, she's qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:01:16 AM
LOL... she's facing IMPEACHMENT in Alaska right now....


Palin currently being investigated for abuse of office

The Associated Press reports, "More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper."

The commissioner, Walt Monegan, was fired on July 11, because Palin "wanted to take the department in a new direction," according to Bloomberg. "Monegan than alleged that he had been pressured to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who was married to Palin's sister and was involved in a contentious divorce, according to the Anchorage Daily News."

The Bloomberg story continues, "Palin has denied any wrongdoing. The state Legislature voted on July 28 to hire an independent investigator to probe whether Palin, her family or members of her administration had pressured Monegan to fire Wooten, according to the Daily News."

"Palin hasn't been implicated in the four-year-old federal corruption investigation, which has resulted in convictions of or guilty pleas from three state legislators, Murkowski's former chief of staff and two executives of an oil-services company, as well as the indictment of Senator Ted Stevens," Bloomberg's report concludes.

Last month a Democratic official told the Wall Street Journal that Palin was facing possible impeachment.

"This is a governor who was almost impervious to error," Hollis French, a Democratic state senator told the Journal. "Now she could face impeachment, in a worst-case scenario."

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Grape Ape on August 29, 2008, 09:02:17 AM
According to TheCoach, since she's been Governor of Alaska for less than 2 years, she's qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world.

As opposed to someone who's been a Senator for less than 2 years?

They both are weak, experience wise.  Excpet one's running for VP, the other for President.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:08:41 AM
30 days ago:

She said on CNBC that she doesn’t know what the vice president does.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 09:09:45 AM
LOL... she's facing IMPEACHMENT in Alaska right now....


Palin currently being investigated for abuse of office

The Associated Press reports, "More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper."

The commissioner, Walt Monegan, was fired on July 11, because Palin "wanted to take the department in a new direction," according to Bloomberg. "Monegan than alleged that he had been pressured to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who was married to Palin's sister and was involved in a contentious divorce, according to the Anchorage Daily News."

The Bloomberg story continues, "Palin has denied any wrongdoing. The state Legislature voted on July 28 to hire an independent investigator to probe whether Palin, her family or members of her administration had pressured Monegan to fire Wooten, according to the Daily News."

"Palin hasn't been implicated in the four-year-old federal corruption investigation, which has resulted in convictions of or guilty pleas from three state legislators, Murkowski's former chief of staff and two executives of an oil-services company, as well as the indictment of Senator Ted Stevens," Bloomberg's report concludes.

Last month a Democratic official told the Wall Street Journal that Palin was facing possible impeachment.

"This is a governor who was almost impervious to error," Hollis French, a Democratic state senator told the Journal. "Now she could face impeachment, in a worst-case scenario."




*Seeing Rob frantically searching in Google to find dirt* LMAO!

Whats funny is no one has to that with Obama, it's plain site for everyone too see. The difference being Obama is the one running for pres!! LOL
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 09:09:56 AM
New Gov. of Alaska...  Five kids.  One just born this year... a special needs child...  Doesn't she have bigger fish to fry?  I'm surprised she would want to be VP.  By any measure, she has a steep learning curve ahead of her.  Is she ready to be President if McCain croaks a month into his presidency?

I don't like his politics, but Romney strikes me as a more qualified choice.  Oh well, I think this helps Obama.

Helps Obama.  Not!

Voters arent that deep.

1. Woman = women votes
2. Looks of Latin descent to me = Latin vote
3. Native Indian husband = Is anyone more native American than that.

Bad politics but McCain is trying to steal the elections.  If you thought Obama was clueless...then she is ahead of the curve by a mile. She is a counter punch to Obama's ethnic side. Doesnt make a difference if she can lead a line of kids to Disneyland.  Have to give McCain an "A" for this one.  

Well...see in this election can American's think past the tip of their noses.

By the end of this election I'm claiming my Cuban side of the family.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: chainsaw on August 29, 2008, 09:11:04 AM
Clearly the best "person" for the job.  Guess he couldn't find a black crippled gay woman with a hispanic name.

Hahahahahahhahahhaha
goodone
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 09:12:05 AM
how can a woman be qualified to be in politics in first place.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2008, 09:16:17 AM
As opposed to someone who's been a Senator for less than 2 years?

They both are weak, experience wise.  Excpet one's running for VP, the other for President.

Compare apples to apples--as opposed to Joe Biden who's been a US Senator for what 30 years.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:17:24 AM
Zero economic experience... Romney would have helped Mccain bigtime there.

Mccain admits he is weak on the economy.  Many people believed he NEEDED a financial genius, like Romney or Carly Fiorinino of HP onto the ticket.

This woman has no foreign policy experience, and no financial expertise.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 09:18:34 AM
Clearly the best "person" for the job.  Guess he couldn't find a black crippled gay woman with a hispanic name.

Dummy...his best bets were Louisiana Gov or Rice but they wouldnt touch this election.  It just McCain trying to pit them against another brown face.  Why would they bother?  Both too smart for that BS!  I guess she isnt but she does look good.  Grade "A" MILF.  

Fellow Cubans dont fall for this if the lady can speak Spanish.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 09:24:16 AM
Dummy...his best bets were Louisiana Gov or Rice but they wouldnt touch this election.  It just McCain trying to pit them against another brown face.  Why would they bother?  Both too smart for that BS!  I guess she isnt but she does look good.  Grade "A" MILF.  

 ::)

Allow me to distill my post to its essence, so that you can better grasp it's meaning: This is not a political campaign, it's a marketing campaign.

Surprised you missed it since that's what you said in your last post which, sadly, I'm inclined to agree with.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 09:27:00 AM
::)

Allow me to distill my post to its essence, so that you can better grasp it's meaning: This is not a political campaign, it's a marketing campaign.

Surprised you missed it since that's what you said in your last post which, sadly, I'm inclined to agree with.

Actually...I dont read thought posts on this site.  I usually just look at the first sentence and make a blind reply.  This site isnt that important but it's fun to post BS!  Hope that helps.   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

BTW...I do read BlockHead's post because he's my b###h.  Thanks for your time. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
This is not a political campaign, it's a marketing campaign.

Post of the day.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tre on August 29, 2008, 09:29:49 AM

Awesome introduction speech by McCain.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:29:55 AM
im watching his speech now.  he just finished and palin is about to talk. if mccain passes, shes the leader of america.   wait until the vp debate.  shes gonna get beat pretty bad.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 09:30:33 AM
Zero economic experience... Romney would have helped Mccain bigtime there.

Mccain admits he is weak on the economy.  Many people believed he NEEDED a financial genius, like Romney or Carly Fiorinino of HP onto the ticket.This woman has no foreign policy experience, and no financial expertise.

I'll agree with that!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 29, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
LOL... she's facing IMPEACHMENT in Alaska right now....


Palin currently being investigated for abuse of office

The Associated Press reports, "More recently, she has come under the scrutiny of an investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that she ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper."

The commissioner, Walt Monegan, was fired on July 11, because Palin "wanted to take the department in a new direction," according to Bloomberg. "Monegan than alleged that he had been pressured to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who was married to Palin's sister and was involved in a contentious divorce, according to the Anchorage Daily News."

The Bloomberg story continues, "Palin has denied any wrongdoing. The state Legislature voted on July 28 to hire an independent investigator to probe whether Palin, her family or members of her administration had pressured Monegan to fire Wooten, according to the Daily News."

"Palin hasn't been implicated in the four-year-old federal corruption investigation, which has resulted in convictions of or guilty pleas from three state legislators, Murkowski's former chief of staff and two executives of an oil-services company, as well as the indictment of Senator Ted Stevens," Bloomberg's report concludes.

Last month a Democratic official told the Wall Street Journal that Palin was facing possible impeachment.

"This is a governor who was almost impervious to error," Hollis French, a Democratic state senator told the Journal. "Now she could face impeachment, in a worst-case scenario."




Yeah, I was going to mention it.  What kind of idiot is McCain???
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:32:10 AM
Awesome introduction speech by McCain.

actually it was pretty bad.  he was trying to take the obama change theme.  and listening to her talk now, she comes across as an "oh my god" kind of girl.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 09:32:38 AM
It also helps that shes kinda hot ;D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:35:04 AM
It also helps that she kinda hot ;D

she could get it...i think its the glasses that add to it.


Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 09:36:18 AM
I'll agree with that!

Why does she need those things?  That's not why McCain picked her!  Let's make this simple.

LA Gov and Rice = Wont face off against another brown face.

1. Woman = Women votes
2. Latin Descent = Latin votes
3. True Native Husband

Good counter punch for a half black man running for president.  What you think McCain was thinking?  Ok...give me the GetWhite academic answer to this Nelly and Kelly Rowland Dilemma  
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Monster_Everything on August 29, 2008, 09:36:26 AM
McCain doesn't know women very well lol.... women normally dont like other pretty girls they dont know. Hillary wasnt hot and everyone knew her from when Bill started running for president, so women have followed her career for a while , seen her go thru some crazy shit (bill getting his dick sucked) and fight Obama...this bitch comes from a state no one cares about, looks hot, and has the experience of a highschool freshman in a phd program at YALE and is in the midst of impeachment.....

THATS NOT CHANGE , THATS THE SAME >>>>>>>
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 09:38:13 AM
i  think i saw her appear in an episode of bookwurm bitches but im not sure.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: m8 on August 29, 2008, 09:39:03 AM
who cares about that fat old lard!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
To tell you the truth I was hearing Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I'm kind of surprised he didn't choose her.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:42:26 AM
its clear why he picked her.  

1.  he also wanted to make history with his presidency, hence he goes with a woman vp.

2.  they are trying to take the change theme of obama.  just listen to them, its all about "not the usual politics."

3.  female vote, and hillary democrats.  

4.  of course the basic conservative things...shes anti abortion, part of the national riffle association, wants drilling in alaska.  

5.  she has a son being deployed to iraq, so that kind of steals the thunder from bidens son going to iraq.  



Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: tommywishbone on August 29, 2008, 09:42:56 AM
Let's see those tits!

No see the tits... no get the vote.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:43:32 AM
Let's see those tits!

lol
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2008, 09:45:35 AM
McCain didn't choose her to go after the Hillary vote, he choose her to shore up his base, the evangelical vote.   She's fiercely anti-choice and believes creationism should be taught in public schools (http://scienceblogs.com/afarensis/2006/10/27/intelligent_design_and_the_ala/).

She's not going to win over any Hillary votes.

Nor is she the first female vice presidential nominee.   Geraldine Ferarro was Mondale's vp choice in 1984.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 2ND COMING on August 29, 2008, 09:46:10 AM
Looks like hutchinson didn't like the idea of becoming the next ferraro, this new braod palin is young she can take it in stride
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 09:46:22 AM
Let's see those tits!

No see the tits... no get the vote.

We all knew it was just a matter of time before this (http://www.youporn.com/watch/124484/amateur-blowjob-and-cumshot/) surfaced.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:46:52 AM
She didn't look comfortable at all out there.  Several times.  Mccain had to "steer" her to face the cameras, take the mic, etc.

Clapping for herself?

Voice shaky.

not a strong speaker at all.

Hyper.  Giggly.  She clapped on the microphone again.

Her husband is an oil man.  

Already said "september 11th".   Wait, said September 11th again.

It seems her son both enlisted, and was deployed, on Sept 11th.  Amazing.  Her first gaffe, 90 seconds into a speech.


Kids are named Track and Trigg.  I'm serious.  3 others, I didn't catch their names.


She was an average hockey mom who decided to serve in the PTA.  Then city council.  Then part-time mayor of her town of 6,000 people.



Voice shaky again.  said "Good ol' boy network" and crowd was silent.

her flag pin is HUGE.  ABout 3 inches tall.



Shrill voice.  Points her finger at the crowd a lot.  People won't like that.



She made a fist when talking about Iran.  Overdoing it.
Another fist when talking about Russia.

More finger pointing.  She's gotta stop that.



Swallowing, voice trembling at 12:42... No momentum here.  Coughing now.  No water up there for her.

Must fire hairdresser.  Hair is tied in such a way that bald spot/break on scalp keeps getting shine from lights.



She's sucking up to hilary now.  She wants those voters!  "Grace and determination!  Hilary left 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling - but the women of america aren't finished yet - I am the one chance - we can shatter that class ceiling after all!"



More finger pointing.  Very principal-like.  

"Thank you, and I God Bless You" ... Huh?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 09:48:16 AM
To tell you the truth I was hearing Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I'm kind of surprised he didn't choose her.

She would have been PERFECT.

Hutchinson was on MSNBC when the annouincement was made.  She looked PISSED...

Said it was unusual and very surprising.  She's more experienced than 99% of the people in DC, and a woman as well. 

Mccain wanted eye candy.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:48:55 AM
McCain didn't choose her to go after the Hillary vote, he choose her to shore up his base, the evangelical vote.   She's fiercely anti-choice and believes creationism should be taught in schools.

She's not going to win over any Hillary votes.

Nor is she the first female vice presidential nominee.   Geraldine Ferarro was Mondale's vp choice in 1984.

they are going after the hillary votes.  just listen to her speech.  

they are trying to take obamas history making night, by saying, we too want to make history. mondale had no chance to win.  


Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
Let's see those tits!

No see the tits... no get the vote.

or asspread.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: dookie on August 29, 2008, 09:54:14 AM
She didn't look comfortable at all out there.  Several times.  Mccain had to "steer" her to face the cameras, take the mic, etc.

Clapping for herself?

Voice shaky.

not a strong speaker at all.

Hyper.  Giggly.  She clapped on the microphone again.

Her husband is an oil man.  

Already said "september 11th".   Wait, said September 11th again.

It seems her son both enlisted, and was deployed, on Sept 11th.  Amazing.  Her first gaffe, 90 seconds into a speech.


Kids are named Track and Trigg.  I'm serious.  3 others, I didn't catch their names.


She was an average hockey mom who decided to serve in the PTA.  Then city council.  Then part-time mayor of her town of 6,000 people.



Voice shaky again.  said "Good ol' boy network" and crowd was silent.

her flag pin is HUGE.  ABout 3 inches tall.



Shrill voice.  Points her finger at the crowd a lot.  People won't like that.



She made a fist when talking about Iran.  Overdoing it.
Another fist when talking about Russia.

More finger pointing.  She's gotta stop that.



Swallowing, voice trembling at 12:42... No momentum here.  Coughing now.  No water up there for her.

Must fire hairdresser.  Hair is tied in such a way that bald spot/break on scalp keeps getting shine from lights.



She's sucking up to hilary now.  She wants those voters!  "Grace and determination!  Hilary left 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling - but the women of america aren't finished yet - I am the one chance - we can shatter that class ceiling after all!"



More finger pointing.  Very principal-like.  

"Thank you, and I God Bless You" ... Huh?



agreed.  her talk about change sounded like she plagerized obama.  her family talk sounded more like she was just one of those average joes we saw last night before obamas speech.  

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
shes an reptilian!!!!!!  :o :o
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2008, 10:00:43 AM
I'd hit it! 

Can't wait for a porn production company to find a look a like of her and make some quality presidential porn. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: jaejonna on August 29, 2008, 10:01:25 AM
She gives better hand jobs than Jew 'Benidict Arnold' Liberman
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: elite_lifter on August 29, 2008, 10:07:16 AM
McCain really made a poor choice. I'm afraid the next four years may be worse than the last eight.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
Sounds like Rob is picking her apart because his boy Obama is being threatened by a women.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 10:11:34 AM
Sounds like Rob is picking her apart because his boy Obama is being threatened by a women.

I'm not voting obama, joe.

For the 800th time.

But when an inexperienced woman who is publicly unsure of herself wants to be #2 in the world behind a 72-year old man with cancer, yes, I think we should all be a little concerned.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 10:15:02 AM
Presidential candidats are selected, not elected.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 10:17:13 AM
HAHHHHHHHAHHHHAHHAHHAHH

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: gymguy on August 29, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
Great choice.  Obama will have more of a fight on his hands now. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 29, 2008, 10:31:36 AM
Oh no!


Talk of a Vice Presidential Sex Tape.....  :o
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2008, 10:32:14 AM
Watching her fire that gun almost brought a tear to my eye. 



Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: freespirit on August 29, 2008, 10:33:52 AM
It's a big show.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 10:40:51 AM
Sarah Palin
Because every sentence is an exploration.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 10:43:03 AM
I'm not voting obama, joe.

For the 800th time.

But when an inexperienced woman who is publicly unsure of herself wants to be #2 in the world behind a 72-year old man with cancer, yes, I think we should all be a little concerned.


Rob, you are not discriminating against those with cancer, are you?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 10:44:11 AM
She just had a disabled child in April. To think if it was Obama he would have possibly aborted the child instead of giving it a chance.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 10:45:40 AM
She just had a disabled child in April. To think if it was Obama he would have possibly aborted the child instead of giving it a chance.

oh brother ::)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
Watching her fire that gun almost brought a tear to my eye. 





Lol @ the "family values" portion.  All it said was that she's pregnant!

Sarah Palin
5 children by the same man.  Family values for a stronger America.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: tommywishbone on August 29, 2008, 10:56:59 AM
She just had a disabled child in April. To think if it was Obama he would have possibly aborted the child instead of giving it a chance.

OK, she likes retards. I like hookers; does that make me a good choice to be VP?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 10:57:45 AM
She just had a disabled child in April. To think if it was Obama he would have possibly aborted the child instead of giving it a chance.

That made sense.  

Here is a better one:  What the f##k Russians, Iranians and North Koreans will think when this chicks tries to get hardcore with them in the International stage?  Porn movie in the back of their minds or we'll step right over this b###h.  McCain just showed you what kind of politican he is.  No meat...just a piece of meat.

Cubans dont bit on this one if the chick starts to speak Spanish.  We'll still be standing a line for an ice cream cone an hour if the Ole Jack and his Kitty get into office.  

And what if that Ole Bastard kicks the bucket?  Any stress can do it while he is in office.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2008, 11:00:05 AM
She just had a disabled child in April. To think if it was Obama he would have possibly aborted the child instead of giving it a chance.

and if you're told at four months that your unborn child has Down syndrome, you too can choose whether to carry it to term or not.    think if you lived in a country where the government made that choice for you.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: MCWAY on August 29, 2008, 11:01:10 AM
As Jim Ross from WWE would say, “Business just picked up!!!”

David Brody from CNN, who also works with CBN, claims that certain evangelicals are elated about this pick.

If she can get the evangelical Christian voters (who haven’t exactly been thrilled with McCain) fired up, it’s going to be a LOOOOOOOOOONG two months for Team Obama.


No.  Hillary is the ONLY woman they want to see in the Whitehouse.  Their Hillary love is a whole lot stronger than to abandon her.  Afterall, they still have plans in 2012.

The problem is that there will BE NO 2012 for Hilary Clinton, if Obama wins this election.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2008, 11:03:25 AM
Do we really want a woman with a poison womb at the helm?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2008, 11:07:07 AM
Do we really want a woman with a poison womb at the helm?

Russians, Iranians and North Koreans will be stuffing the boxes this election.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 11:25:44 AM
Hey Tim, what do think liberals are trying to do now??
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 11:36:11 AM
Hey Tim, what do think liberals are trying to do now??
Trying to catch a breath from the all day laughing stock and comedy Mccain has put on today. HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAH
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: delta9mda on August 29, 2008, 11:37:49 AM
New Gov. of Alaska...  Five kids.  One just born this year... a special needs child...  Doesn't she have bigger fish to fry?  I'm surprised she would want to be VP.  By any measure, she has a steep learning curve ahead of her.  Is she ready to be President if McCain croaks a month into his presidency?

I don't like his politics, but Romney strikes me as a more qualified choice.  Oh well, I think this helps Obama.
wrong, they just stole the hillary people that are pissed off.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 11:39:07 AM
wrong, they just stole the hillary people that are pissed off.
Wrong.  Palin is the total opposite of Hillary and Hillary supporters want nobody but Hillary.  Another woman being touted in front who is not Hillary is MUCH WORSE.  They don`t want a Pro-Life Bible Thumping Creationist.

She is no Hillary Clinton.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: delta9mda on August 29, 2008, 11:39:55 AM
yeah, I am not sure how a 44-year old woman with a grand total of 18 MONTHS of governor experience is going to handle the job as President if needed.

Mccain is 71 years old and has numerous bouts with cancer.  

I can't imagine this young woman staring down Putin if the cold war starts back up.  I can't imagine her as the most powerful person in the free world.

It's an exciting pick designed to win over hilary voters.
But IMO, obama BARELY has enough experience.
She does not.
she runs a huge sized state, not a seat in washington. obamination is over.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 11:40:48 AM
she runs a huge sized state, not a seat in washington. obamination is over.
::)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2008, 11:46:57 AM
Hey Tim, what do think liberals are trying to do now??

trying to protect a woman's right to choose.

the next president will most likely nominate three people to the Supreme Court.  the three vacancies are most likely to come from the left of center.    If McCain wins, the court will skew right and Roe v Wade will be overturned.  

but the radical right are not just content with overturning Roe.  They also want to overturn Griswold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut).   This would allow some states to outlaw contraception again.   It would allow states to criminalize homosexuality again.

then there is the whole habeas corpus issue.    the current administration has eroded our civil liberties all in the name of national security.   a balanced Supreme Court is our best chance of getting some of those back.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: MCWAY on August 29, 2008, 11:53:14 AM
Wrong.  Palin is the total opposite of Hillary and Hillary supporters want nobody but Hillary.  Another woman being touted in front who is not Hillary is MUCH WORSE.  They don`t want a Pro-Life Bible Thumping Creationist.

She is no Hillary Clinton.

They won't get Hilary, if Obama wins. She ain't waiting until 2016 to run for president again. If Clintion has one more run, it will be in 2012....ONLY if McCain wins in 2008
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Busted on August 29, 2008, 11:55:06 AM
they want the Hillary dems.  Might be a smart move

Hilarys Dems are pro Choice, this chick is anti abortion...
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mark Kerr on August 29, 2008, 11:55:46 AM
Watching her fire that gun almost brought a tear to my eye. 





Is this a joke?

If the Republicans win, we are f**ked. :'(

 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 11:57:33 AM
One could only laugh....

Alaska isn't even a real state.. ;D


Was the Gov of Puerto Rico not available?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 11:58:35 AM
She seems like an awesome mom, a great person, and a good governor.

Do I think she is prepared for the toughest job on the planet?  No.  I think the ticket is lacking on economic common sense.  Mccain admits he is weak on economy.  She has a journalism degree and 18 months (minus vacation) of being governor.  Do I believe she is prepared to run the US economy?  No.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 11:58:35 AM
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHA

Palin is also a creationist and think the bible should be taught in school.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 12:00:45 PM
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Palin is also a creationist and think the bible should be taught in school.

Perhaps they should teach the Bible in jail instead..
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 12:00:45 PM
She seems like an awesome mom, a great person, and a good governor.

Do I think she is prepared for the toughest job on the planet?  No.  I think the ticket is lacking on economic common sense.  Mccain admits he is weak on economy.  She has a journalism degree and 18 months (minus vacation) of being governor.  Do I believe she is prepared to run the US economy?  No.


http://ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm


More Holes than the Exxon Valdez.

hahhaha
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 12:01:45 PM
Rob, you are not discriminating against those with cancer, are you?

mike, you sound like a crying liberal here.

stop trying to 'be offended' and look at facts.

Mccian has had 2 serious bouts with cancer and is continually undergoing procedures.  We don't know what his current status is, because throughout history, politicians have regularly lied about their conditions.  There is no punishment for lying about medical conditions, so we don't know.

Do I believe that a 72 year old man with health issues will serve 8 years?  I do not. I believe he'll reture before then.  If he does, she will take over.

I think she's very nice, and the more I watch her, the more I like her.  I just don't think she bring any economic power to this ticket.   He should have chosen Romney.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
mike, you sound like a crying liberal here.

stop trying to 'be offended' and look at facts.

Mccian has had 2 serious bouts with cancer and is continually undergoing procedures.  We don't know what his current status is, because throughout history, politicians have regularly lied about their conditions.  There is no punishment for lying about medical conditions, so we don't know.

Do I believe that a 72 year old man with health issues will serve 8 years?  I do not. I believe he'll reture before then.  If he does, she will take over.

I think she's very nice, and the more I watch her, the more I like her.  I just don't think she bring any economic power to this ticket.   He should have chosen Romney.


Moosejay is an elitist, he can't systematize with the common man...
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 12:03:40 PM
mike, you sound like a crying liberal here.

stop trying to 'be offended' and look at facts.

Mccian has had 2 serious bouts with cancer and is continually undergoing procedures.  We don't know what his current status is, because throughout history, politicians have regularly lied about their conditions.  There is no punishment for lying about medical conditions, so we don't know.

Do I believe that a 72 year old man with health issues will serve 8 years?  I do not. I believe he'll reture before then.  If he does, she will take over.

I think she's very nice, and the more I watch her, the more I like her.  I just don't think she bring any economic power to this ticket.   He should have chosen Romney.

You can`t possibly find anything redeeming from a Bible Thumping Creationist with no resume` can you Rob?

http://ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm  
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
Doh!!

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2008, 12:06:40 PM
Doh!!


ROFLAMOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: MCWAY on August 29, 2008, 12:12:10 PM
Hilarys Dems are pro Choice, this chick is anti abortion...

McCain is looking for those Democrat P.U.M.A. voters. And, he may get a handful of them. If he does and enough social conservatives/evangelical Christians get fired up and go for McCain/Palin, the Democrats may REALLY end up being "blue".




Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2008, 12:13:15 PM
she runs a huge sized state, not a seat in washington. obamination is over.

(all numbers from census.gov, first two 2006, next two 2000)

Population of Alaska:  670,053

Population of it's largest city, Anchorage:278,700

Population of Wasilla, the city she was mayor: 5469

Btw, my father was once the mayor of Aniak, Alaska, population: 572.    I think he may have ran for state legislature once too.    (he and my step-mom moved to Alaska when I was 11)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Busted on August 29, 2008, 12:13:51 PM

She has MINIMAL experience.

18 months as governor of a cold state.  Minus two summer vacations.

it's a poly to grab all the hilary voters, and the young voters who will vote for a hot mom.

If she gets in... wow.. she has no experience...

ZERo foreign policy experience.

She was a small town mayor 4 years ago.


Mayor of a city of 9000 people... more people saw her today with mccain than lived in the city she was mayor of...
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2008, 12:15:08 PM
McCain is looking for those Democrat P.U.M.A. voters. And, he may get a handful of them.

you know who PUMA voters are?   1) Washington insiders who were going to get plum jobs in the new Clinton administration, and 2) Republicans trying to stir up trouble.

Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: MCWAY on August 29, 2008, 12:19:55 PM
you know who PUMA voters are?   1) Washington insiders who were going to get plum jobs in the new Clinton administration, and 2) Republicans trying to stir up trouble.


What do you mean "trying"??  ;D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mark Kerr on August 29, 2008, 12:29:59 PM
Doh!!



Wow.

What was McCain thinking?

 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: nicky.smth on August 29, 2008, 12:33:07 PM
(all numbers from census.gov, first two 2006, next two 2000)

Population of Alaska:  670,053

Population of it's largest city, Anchorage:278,700

Population of Wasilla, the city she was mayor: 5469

Btw, my father was once the mayor of Aniak, Alaska, population: 572.    I think he may have ran for state legislature once too.    (he and my step-mom moved to Alaska when I was 11)

Wow!!!

Great choice by john Oldman for vice president


Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The Coach on August 29, 2008, 01:52:28 PM
Sorry Tim, we have two different views on Roe vs. Wade and it has nothing to do with religion. I see Roe vs. Wade as legal birth control by way of murder. Life starts at conception (fact). A womens right to choose shouldn't include just because the mother is too young for example to také care of a child it should be aborted....that's commonsense. Liberals tend to ignore commonsense when it comes to this. The" I'm too young" or "the child is handicap" or whatever is a horrible excuse for the right to choose extremists. It absolutely be overturned and I hate to use a cleche' but, what choice does that child have?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2008, 02:00:47 PM
i bet shes not green in assfucking.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 29, 2008, 02:02:04 PM
i bet shes not green in assfucking.

probably not Muslim either.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 02:03:48 PM
What the hell was he thinking??

Seriously, she's been governor of a relatively small uncomplicated state (population-wise) for two years, and before that she was mayor of some small town (was it even a paid gig?)...   she's so green she makes Obama look like an experienced statesman.  ::)

He want's to pick a woman that's fine, I have no problem with that and it might be a wise move to snag more of the moderate votes, but there are many republican women out there far more qualified.

I respect goatboy's opinion on this issue big time.

He's a mccian voter.  Most of them are blindly claiming this woman is more experienced than anyone else in the race (uhhhh?) due to party allegience.

Huge, huge risk.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2008, 02:09:20 PM
I respect goatboy's opinion on this issue big time.

He's a mccian voter.  Most of them are blindly claiming this woman is more experienced than anyone else in the race (uhhhh?) due to party allegience.

Huge, huge risk.

Maybe McCain really doesn't want to be President and did it intentionally to throw the election.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
Maybe McCain really doesn't want to be President and did it intentionally to throw the election.

i think it's a huge risk that'll either win the Hilary voters, or lose all confidence in him.

He knew that by state-by-state polls, he was losing this race.  http://pollster.com/ had him getting creamed in the electoral vote by 80... Common sense - and Intrade gambling - say there's only a 40% chance he can win.

Hilary TRIED to win on experience over change.  People voted for change.
Mccain is smart enough to realize he will lose to obama using experience too.

So, he decided to suddenly be the 'change guy' too.  Palin's use of hilary's glass ceiling refernence, saying the girls have one last chance, means her presence is more about her gender than her positions.

Can any woman with 5 kids (one disabled) devote herself to the toughest job on earth?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 02:15:34 PM
i think it's a huge risk that'll either win the Hilary voters, or lose all confidence in him.

He knew that by state-by-state polls, he was losing this race.  http://pollster.com/ had him getting creamed in the electoral vote by 80... Common sense - and Intrade gambling - say there's only a 40% chance he can win.

Hilary TRIED to win on experience over change.  People voted for change.
Mccain is smart enough to realize he will lose to obama using experience too.

So, he decided to suddenly be the 'change guy' too.  Palin's use of hilary's glass ceiling refernence, saying the girls have one last chance, means her presence is more about her gender than her positions.

Can any woman with 5 kids (one disabled) devote herself to the toughest job on earth?

Let Obamma ask that question on record and see him be stoned to death by every woman in the country
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: warrior_code on August 29, 2008, 02:37:41 PM
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Palin is also a creationist and think the bible should be taught in school.

I always thought it would be funny if a group of scientists got together and protested to teach scientific fact in churches. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: tu_holmes on August 29, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
I respect goatboy's opinion on this issue big time.

He's a mccian voter.  Most of them are blindly claiming this woman is more experienced than anyone else in the race (uhhhh?) due to party allegience.

Huge, huge risk.

Like I said in another thread... Mondale and Ferraro part deux.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 03:07:15 PM
No.  Hillary is the ONLY woman they want to see in the Whitehouse.  Their Hillary love is a whole lot stronger than to abandon her.  Afterall, they still have plans in 2012.
Moron! Die hard Hillary voters want McCain to win so they can challenge in 2012. Where is your supposed intellect?
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: affy on August 29, 2008, 03:13:34 PM
Moron! Die hard Hillary voters want McCain to win so they can challenge in 2012. Where is your supposed intellect?


exactly..if obama wins...he'll be running again in 2012
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 29, 2008, 04:49:10 PM
trying to protect a woman's right to choose.

the next president will most likely nominate three people to the Supreme Court.  the three vacancies are most likely to come from the left of center.    If McCain wins, the court will skew right and Roe v Wade will be overturned.  

but the radical right are not just content with overturning Roe.  They also want to overturn Griswold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut).   This would allow some states to outlaw contraception again.   It would allow states to criminalize homosexuality again.
then there is the whole habeas corpus issue.    the current administration has eroded our civil liberties all in the name of national security.   a balanced Supreme Court is our best chance of getting some of those back.

Over thecourse of 8 years it is possible that 3 new SC justices will be named-but nto over the next 4 years.

Griswold will not be overturned. The doctrine of Stare Decisis prevents major cases from being overturned and Roberts said repeatedly during confirmation hearings that he would not violate that doctrine.

As for outlawing "homsexuality", I don't think homosexuality itself has ever been outlawed, althought homosexual acts were many years ago. That is certainly not the case today nor would it ever revert back to that-see Lawrence v Texas- the overturning Hardwick v Bowers.

In addition, it is becoming fairly clear that gay rights are falling under the umbrella of "fundamental rights", preventing court interpretations banning them.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 04:57:01 PM
It will be forced on him...  the reporters will ask him that, and he'll either tell the truth and have women hating him, or lie and look like an idiot.

It will not end well for him.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 29, 2008, 07:39:47 PM
McCain really made a poor choice. I'm afraid the next four years may be worse than the last eight.
You only make minimum wage at your G4P gigs anyway-so it wont matter who is elected for you!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Benny B on August 29, 2008, 10:44:35 PM
irresponsible and disastrous VP pick for McCain
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: gettinhuge on August 29, 2008, 10:55:49 PM
they want the Hillary dems.  Might be a smart move


This will not get the Hillary dems.....from the little they have found about her, She is totally against Pro choice....even if he women gets pregnant through Rape.....or if the birth may hinders the women health.......WTF...she is off the chain with that.....the Hillary DEMS wont go for that.....poor dumb Mccain. He really should hav went with Romney.....and when its time for th VP debate Joe will eat her up...he knows washington she not even lnked to to the lower 48 states as far as geography goes. win win for obama
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: James Phoenix on August 29, 2008, 11:42:42 PM
I can see it now...

McCain get's elected and dies; Palin takes over and becomes overwhelmed;

military steps in and seizes control of the government.

It's been planned this way.

This is clearly a move to steal Obama's thunder along with the Clinton vote;

however, it won't work.

There will be a huge backlash against it; anyone that supported Hillary will see through this charade.

McCain shooting himself in the foot again.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on August 29, 2008, 11:49:30 PM
I can see it now...

McCain get's elected and dies; Palin takes over and becomes overwhelmed;

military steps in and seizes control of the government.

It's been planned this way.

This is clearly a move to steal Obama's thunder along with the Clinton vote;

however, it won't work.

There will be a huge backlash against it; anyone that supported Hillary will see through this charade.

McCain shooting himself in the foot again.

No offense, but I think you need to get out more.  This paranoid delusion crap isn't doing you any good.  No wonder you can't hold a steady job.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: musclecenter on August 30, 2008, 03:13:20 AM
http://cbs2.com/local/Palin.McCain.Schwarzenegger.2.806454.html (http://cbs2.com/local/Palin.McCain.Schwarzenegger.2.806454.html)
Schwarzenegger Endorses Palin
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said "I know Governor Palin from the national governors' conference, and she's a very effective leader and she's a reformer and I like her very much because she has the strength to go and push back,"
"She had the strength to fix the budget problem that they had, to reform the system and also to push back really hard on that 'Bridge to Nowhere,"' Schwarzenegger said. "And I think she's cleaning up the mess up there, and I think she has tremendous courage."


Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: wile e roadrunner on August 30, 2008, 03:32:01 AM
This decision reeks of dementia or utter stupidity. But is in the noble tradition of beauty pageant runners-up becoming successfully national political leaders.

Can't wait for the nude photos, tho.

Also, check out the rumors about Palin and the 5th child. Apparently 16 year old daughter was MIA in school for months before the birth.

If the US is attacked by snowmobiling terrorists, we are SAFE NOW!!!
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: loco on August 30, 2008, 05:40:48 AM
What did John Adams, the first Vice Prescient and second President of the US, think about the job of the Vice President? 

It has got to be "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of a man contrived or his imagination conceived"

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Palin1.JPG/225px-Palin1.JPG)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Sarah_Palin_Flight_Simulator.jpg/800px-Sarah_Palin_Flight_Simulator.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_18.jpg/400px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_18.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_19.jpg/800px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_19.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_22a.jpg/505px-Sarah_Palin_Kuwait_22a.jpg)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 06:03:32 AM
What did John Adams, the first Vice Prescient and second President of the US, think about the job of the Vice President? 

It has got to be "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of a man contrived or his imagination conceived"

With Dick Cheney setting our foreign policy for the last eight years, that quote by Adams is clearly no longer true.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: loco on August 30, 2008, 07:38:45 AM
With Dick Cheney setting our foreign policy for the last eight years, that quote by Adams is clearly no longer true.

John Adams was no Dick. 

Palin is no Dick.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: tu_holmes on August 30, 2008, 09:33:41 AM
This decision reeks of dementia or utter stupidity. But is in the noble tradition of beauty pageant runners-up becoming successfully national political leaders.

Can't wait for the nude photos, tho.

Also, check out the rumors about Palin and the 5th child. Apparently 16 year old daughter was MIA in school for months before the birth.

If the US is attacked by snowmobiling terrorists, we are SAFE NOW!!!

This reeks of Desperate Housewives... Nice to know she's now a grandmilf!

;D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Benny B on August 30, 2008, 09:57:31 AM
John Adams was no Dick. 

Palin is no Dick.
Yes, but Palin's five kids is testament to the fact that she likes Dick very much.  :D
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2016, 07:26:36 AM
Choosing a woman was smart, but Christine Todd Whitman (former NJ Gov.) would have been a better choice.  She is much more qualified and could have insulated McCain from being associated with Bush since they fired her as head of the EPA.

Christie Todd Whitman: I'll Vote For Hillary Clinton Over Trump
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: James on March 02, 2016, 07:34:19 AM
Sarah Palin's endorsements of Trump didn't work out too well in her home state.  Cruz won Alaska last night
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2016, 09:29:39 AM
No I do not.  Hillary is and was not in it because of her hubris.  She is who she is because of what she stands for.  Hillary was not running just so she could be the first woman in office, she was running on the basis of her policies.  She certainly is not a vain person.

When did you change your mind on her?   ;)
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 10, 2016, 09:43:18 AM
When did you change your mind on her?   ;)
I don't think she is a vain person still.  Power Hungry, yes.  Corrupt, yes.  Does she think her policies are what America needs, yes.   She does not give a shit about being a woman, but you better be damn sure she will use it to her advantage in her pursuit of power. 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 10, 2016, 09:47:11 AM
When did you change your mind on her?   ;)
Scroll up and look what I also posted back then.   ;)

they want the Hillary dems.  Might be a smart move

She is FAR from being democratic.
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2016, 09:52:28 AM
Scroll up and look what I also posted back then.   ;)


The Donald is giving this bitch cover w his antics - now the question is why
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 10, 2016, 10:08:02 AM
The Donald is giving this bitch cover w his antics - now the question is why
No he isn't.  He is just calling her out and the media can't take it.  They are "outraged". 
Title: Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 10, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
When did you change your mind on her?   ;)

When she kicked that cuck Bernie's ass and ended his little pipe dream of winning the nomination.