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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223
so it's clearly not her baby, will this story get picked up by the MSM? will she resign before the convention?
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(http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_v01.jpg)
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she gave birth to two yellow frogs?
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She is DONE for. At the acceptance speech she just couldn`t stop mentioning her son "Trigg Paxson Van Palin". Turns out its not her son at all and she was never pregnant. Her 16 year old daughter was pregnant and she tried to cover it up. They took her out of school and lied claiming "mono" at the SAME time the pregnancy occured. Hillarious that she claims it was her son that she JUST gave birth to in April.
Palin cannot be trusted with anything. This also sends a horrible message to young girls and families dealing with teen pregnancy. This isn`t 1915 where you should be ashamed and have to cover it all up.
Palin is a moron as is Mccain for his poor choice.
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she gave birth to two yellow frogs?
Hopefully it wasn't out of wedlock..
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Mccain picks her? It is obvious he wanted to tap into the folks who will vote for a women/insane religious nut over anything else, but why not Rice over this woman?
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this is a major story.
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why are retards like this degenerate allowed to have a chance at positions of power? 240, why don't you run? you are better then mccain.
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why are retards like this degenerate allowed to have a chance at positions of power? 240, why don't you run? you are better then mccain.
240 could do very well, he would have to drop the notion of faith and god though. :) 240 is straight-forward and gets things done. He would be well suited for politics as I don`t think he would have to play the game. His merit would be enough to carry him alone.
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I do think it is pretty low to mess in her personal life, but It happens to all who run for office so this is fair game.
After reading alot of 240's posts, I would vote for him.
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I do think it is pretty low to mess in her personal life, but It happens to all who run for office so this is fair game.
After reading alot of 240's posts, I would vote for him.
This is more than personal life business. The mother is claiming its her son when it isn`t. It is not exactly legal to do.
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Well, it shouldn't be too hard to sniff out if it is her daughter's kid.
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Well, it shouldn't be too hard to sniff out if it is her daughter's kid.
This is HUGE........240, get sniffing !
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this is a major story.
Yep I can't imagine them nominating her at the convention. It would really be suicide.
How could they miss this in their vetting? Most Canadian's and Alaskans already knew about this.
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RIP killer kowalski
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This story can't be true...If it is...It's the end for the republicans...hahaha
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This story can't be true...If it is...It's the end for the republicans...hahaha
read the article it's pretty convincing.
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yes because EVERYTHING you read in a newspaper is credible, right? ::)
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yes because EVERYTHING you read in a newspaper is credible, right? ::)
Maybe not in a newspaper, but on Getbig it is 100% credible.
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yes because EVERYTHING you read in a newspaper is credible, right? ::)
Well that is not why it's convincing to me, but for the average trailer park trash that might be why the story will be convincing.
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Well that is not why it's convincing to me, but for the average trailer park trash that might be why the story will be convincing.
ok Mr. Small and Soft. :D
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ok Mr. Small and Soft. :D
Yeah I lack the size and fullness of Palin's 16 y.o. preggo daughter
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http://www.bristolpalinpregnant.com/
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maybe her daughter was a little too eager for teh cock?
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If Karl Rove were still around he'd quickly arrange a tearful "I'm just so pro-life ...sob, sob" press conference and then add an anti-abortion/abstinence-only amendment to the ballot in all the swing states.
Worked last time... swiftboat those bitches.
As PT Barnum used to say; "No one ever went broke UNDERESTIMATING the intelligence of the American public".
The Luke
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Maybe the father got the daughter pregnant?
Why does it matter?
1. Sarah Palin is pro- life. Great to see she sticks to her guns. Too bad she had to lie about her own daughter being pregnant because of the fact that:
2. Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education.
3. Maybe this needs repeating. Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education.
4. One more time! Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education.
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how do we know that's a baby bump? looks like a chunky teenager to me.
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how do we know that's a baby bump? looks like a chunky teenager to me.
We're only speculating at this point.. ;D
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how do we know that's a baby bump? looks like a chunky teenager to me.
Does Palin look 7 months pregnant to you there or in ANY of her photos?
She also took her daughter out of school at the EXACT same time for 8- months.
Palin also held a schedule that would be near impossible for a pregnant woman to keep.
Palin also did not announce it until 7 months in.
This story just got its legs. Wait until it gets running! hahha
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Samantha as always nails it.
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Mccain admitted the ONLY vetting he did was to send a team of lawyers up to check out the charges she had her brother-in-law fired.
IMO, a prospective candidate should have to take a polygraph about past crimes and lies. Mccain should have quietly required this, and had a team of PIs on her for months.
Her selection was based upon obama's recent convention success and the realization that without a MAJOR Shift in the hilary voters, there is no way mccain could win.
He went after the vagina vote.
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I doubt this is true, dont get me wrong i hope it is. Its just that if it was, CNN or msnbc would have picked it up already, as this would be a major story. And im sure Sara would have told McSames advisors of this story about the baby. IMO its not true.
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I doubt this is true, dont get me wrong i hope it is. Its just that if it was, CNN or msnbc would have picked it up already, as this would be a major story. And im sure Sara would have told McSames advisors of this story about the baby. IMO its not true.
MSNBC ran the scroll on their Sunday newscast.
It took a bit for the major networks to catch onto the Edwards scandal as well.
I'm not so sure Palin would have admitted it to Mccain. She's ambitious, I doubt he'd think to ask, and most people not under the scrutiny of the entire media, it's a common lie that often goes unnoticed.
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MSNBC ran the scroll on their Sunday newscast.
It took a bit for the major networks to catch onto the Edwards scandal as well.
I'm not so sure Palin would have admitted it to Mccain. She's ambitious, I doubt he'd think to ask, and most people not under the scrutiny of the entire media, it's a common lie that often goes unnoticed.
240 you need to push this story and make sure the media picks it up and at least launches an investigation :D
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http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/08/trig-is-not-sarah-palins-baby.html
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240 you need to push this story and make sure the media picks it up and at least launches an investigation :D
Nah... I'll read about it on the news once it breaks, but I personally think it's their family's business.
I think it was all a stunt anyway, to get a week of Female/Hilary love before mccain selects Romney as the real VP choice this thursday ;)
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Does Palin look 7 months pregnant to you there or in ANY of her photos?
She also took her daughter out of school at the EXACT same time for 8- months.
Palin also held a schedule that would be near impossible for a pregnant woman to keep.
Palin also did not announce it until 7 months in.
This story just got its legs. Wait until it gets running! hahha
HAHAHA I was watching the news and they said her water broke while in Texas and she refused to give birth in Texas. She flew home to Alaska to give birth, and 2 days later she was back on the job.. What a tough woman!
:D
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(http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/PalinFamily_Outside_v01.jpg)
Great, I'll use that as my wallpaper ::) ::)
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Nah... I'll read about it on the news once it breaks, but I personally think it's their family's business.
I think it was all a stunt anyway, to get a week of Female/Hilary love before mccain selects Romney as the real VP choice this thursday ;)
No its Americas business, when she decided to accept the VP position, and if its true and she lied to all of America, its over for McSame.
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It's as fake a story as the one of TA deadlifting 225 for 100 plus reps. The story had no legs from the start. Hope this helps.
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It's as fake a story as the one of TA deadlifting 225 for 100 plus reps. The story had no legs from the start. Hope this helps.
If it is true, would she still get your vote?
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Palin said she's not aiming to take any time off from her job as governor, assuming all goes well with the pregnancy. She said when she had Piper -- Palin was mayor of Wasilla at the time -- the baby was born on a Monday and she returned to the office on Tuesday.
http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html
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I love most of her positions. I think she's an inspirational story. I think she's hot!
But I also think she's grossly underqualified for the job. I think Russia, China and Iran are begging for a person like that to get the job.
This story is her own business - she and her daughter must be having the worst day of their lives today. mainstream media will have it Monday morning, same day the RNC convention starts. it's her business, but in the business of politics, you cannot lie (and forge birth documents) and expect to hold public office without it being investigated.
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I love most of her positions. I think she's an inspirational story. I think she's hot!
But I also think she's grossly underqualified for the job. I think Russia, China and Iran are begging for a person like that to get the job.
This story is her own business - she and her daughter must be having the worst day of their lives today. mainstream media will have it Monday morning, same day the RNC convention starts. it's her business, but in the business of politics, you cannot lie (and forge birth documents) and expect to hold public office without it being investigated.
Id like her in 1 position... Doggie Style :D
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I doubt this is true, dont get me wrong i hope it is. Its just that if it was, CNN or msnbc would have picked it up already, as this would be a major story. And im sure Sara would have told McSames advisors of this story about the baby. IMO its not true.
not only r u a terrific bodybuilder, u r wise
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If Karl Rove were still around he'd quickly arrange a tearful "I'm just so pro-life ...sob, sob" press conference and then add an anti-abortion/abstinence-only amendment to the ballot in all the swing states.
Worked last time... swiftboat those bitches.
As PT Barnum used to say; "No one ever went broke UNDERESTIMATING the intelligence of the American public".
The Luke
QFT
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Does Palin look 7 months pregnant to you there or in ANY of her photos?
She also took her daughter out of school at the EXACT same time for 8- months.
Palin also held a schedule that would be near impossible for a pregnant woman to keep.
Palin also did not announce it until 7 months in.
This story just got its legs. Wait until it gets running! hahha
yeah I think we may see it gain a lot of momentum when people get back to work on tuesday and all eyes are on the GOP convention.
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does she like black cock? ???
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MSNBC ran the scroll on their Sunday newscast.
It took a bit for the major networks to catch onto the Edwards scandal as well.
if by a bit you mean months then yes, it took a bit. MSM is just way slower than internet
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Pregnancy is pretty easy for some women. I had sex with one of my exes probably less than 24 hours after she had her kid (not mine).
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Pregnancy is pretty easy for some women. I had sex with one of my exes probably less than 24 hours after she had her kid (not mine).
what was the pussy like? beat up, loose, etc, give us details.
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what was the pussy like? beat up, loose, etc, give us details.
It didn't feel that different. I thought it was a little bit looser, but i was probably imagining it. Some women get torn up... others don't.
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does she like black cock? ???
her husband is eskimo so i'd say yes
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her husband is eskimo so i'd say yes
what about you?
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what about you?
Seana, you like the TRANNY cock, doesnt matter what color it is!
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Pregnancy is pretty easy for some women. I had sex with one of my exes probably less than 24 hours after she had her kid (not mine).
Lovely
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It didn't feel that different. I thought it was a little bit looser, but i was probably imagining it. Some women get torn up... others don't.
I would have tested the cervix, and seen if it was amenable to some penetration
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If it is true, would she still get your vote?
In all honesty, I have to read up more on everyone's stances. If it is true or not, I really don't care, however Obama did gain points for me by not being a Cubs fan...which is huge.
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???
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what about you?
..i dont do towel heads or dots...feathers ok
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http://www.bristolpalinpregnant.com/
What do you guys say we "Getbig" the comments section? ;D
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never.
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Tuesday she's out.
Wed Romney is in.
Thursday he accepts the nomination.
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Tuesday she's out.
Wed Romney is in.
Thursday he accepts the nomination.
They'll lose ALL cred if they change their minds. The Dems will tie them to a tree and whip 'em with it.
Goofball choice not to make sure she was squeaky clean before the announcement. Maybe she is clean, but she's not squeaky. There's enough appearance of impropriety here to do some damage (I mean bro-gate more than baby-gate, but still...). Can't believe they chose someone that puts them immediately on the defensive. Could have got the vagina vote elsewhere.
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Tuesday she's out.
Wed Romney is in.
Thursday he accepts the nomination.
If that were the case and he replaced her with Romney, its still to late. The VP is the most important pick a potential pres has to make, and Mcsame made the dumbest vp pick. You have to get it righ the 1st time, not the 2nd time. Just like he was wrong with the war, now he's wrong with his own VP pick ::).
Good job McCain Country First ::)
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Why do you care? Don't you have a French-speaking Prime Minister to elect or something?
lol
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Zero truth to the rumors. She sill not resign. In fact, her and McCain will win in November.
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It's as fake a story as the one of TA deadlifting 225 for 100 plus reps. The story had no legs from the start. Hope this helps.
It would appear that way.
Another Alaskan Newspaper, the Daily News-Miner, had a similar article on Sunday. And on Saturday, one of that newspaper's columnists praised her record as governor but wrote "in no way does her year-and-a-half as governor of Alaska qualify her to be vice president or president of the United States."
It's the type of scrutiny that the McCain camp will increasingly see as the media catches up on the background of the surprise choice.
But it's nothing compared to the online smear campaign that has begun against Palin.
The most-vicious, from the left-leaning Daily Kos, contains completely unsubstantiated rumours about her recent pregnancy.
The Anchorage Daily News wrote at the time, "That the pregnancy is so advanced it astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant."
The Huffington Post, an extremely popular left-wing blog, has devoted nearly its entire website over the past few days to criticizing the Palin pick.
One of its stories quotes Sarah Palin's mother-in-law, Faye Palin, as saying she's not sure which way she will vote.
"I'm not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she's a woman and a conservative," Faye Palin tells The Huffington Post.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080831/palin_vp_080901/20080901?hub=TopStories (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080831/palin_vp_080901/20080901?hub=TopStories)
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my girlfriend is a doctor and she says there is NO way that chick was 7 months pregnant in those pictures...
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my girlfriend is a doctor and she says there is NO way that chick was 7 months pregnant in those pictures...
ask your GF if ANY doctor in the world would allow such a timeline to take place. She claims she contacted her doctor at 4 AM friday morning, told her of the leaking, and was given the green light to work all day, speak, then fly 8 hours:
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Palins daughter looks like a gerbal or a hamster,lol
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Palins daughter looks like a gerbal or a hamster,lol
Your one to talk.. ;D
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I like the TRANNY cock, doesnt matter what color it is!
If you like cock then thats your business.
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Palins daughter looks like a gerbal or a hamster,lol
Breeds like one too.
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This is total speculation. If this is true, she has a problem. If this is not true, it will backfire against the democrats hard and show that those involved are petty and desperate and ad fuel to the rebuplican ticket.
240, if this is not true, will you admit this was a pathetic smear tactic?
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This is total speculation. If this is true, she has a problem. If this is not true, it will backfire against the democrats hard and show that those involved are petty and desperate and ad fuel to the rebuplican ticket.
240, if this is not true, will you admit this was a pathetic smear tactic?
of course this could be a smear. it's still just a rumor.
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They don't have enough money and influence in the world to keep this covered up. if there's a 16 year old boy out there who impregnated her before this last time, he and his family or families' friends will talk for cash. Where's the Enquirer? they'll bust this wide open. Just a metter of time.
If this second pregnancy is just to cover up the first or if it is true but they are revealing this one to hid ethe first...it's all over.
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Why would she resign? Obama has a nutcase for a pastor who associates with a nutcase priest, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres), he could very well be muslim, shady real estate dealings, and on and on and on and on. We could go on for days but people like yourselves still vote for him. Yeah right, SHE'S the one who should resign....oh brother
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Why would she resign? Obama has a nutcase for a pastor who associates with a nutcase priest, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres), he could very well be muslim, shady real estate dealings, and on and on and on and on. We could go on for days but people like yourselves still vote for him. Yeah right, SHE'S the one who should resign....oh brother
C'mon, Coach. Even being a republican, you can admit this is terrible IF it is true, rgiht? You won't say it's "ok" will you?
please show us you are sane.
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Why would she resign? Obama has a nutcase for a pastor who associates with a nutcase priest, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres), he could very well be muslim, shady real estate dealings, and on and on and on and on. We could go on for days but people like yourselves still vote for him. Yeah right, SHE'S the one who should resign....oh brother
incredible there are people this retarded, and a shame they get to vote.
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If the baby is hers, then she admittedly spent 17 hours speaking, chatting, and FLYING, after her water broke, with a pre-mature Downs Syndrome child. She's already disqualified herself on the grounds of lack of common sense.
Click on this map to read it more clearly. These are her own ADMITTED actions. Does this apepar to be a woman with good decision-making skills?
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Even if the current story is true, which it is turning out to be a cover-up of a cover-up, its hillarious for the simple fact that her daughter is having babies out of wedlock something that Palin is staunchly against. She is a member and founder of a group that preaches abstinence and disdains childhood pregnancy.
So by "claiming" Bristol is 5 months pregnant now, which is probably is not, it does establish the fact that she is having sex, and is having sex with intent to have a baby. So this clearly is enough evidence that Trig could be hers.
Watch, in a few months the story will read, "We are sad to inform that Bristol Palin had a miscarriage". This being that in fact the whole thing is a cover story for a cover story. Notice that she does not look pregnant now when she is supposedly 5 months.
With that said, she could very well be pregnant AGAIN even! haha
All things considered, it is rotten to the core.
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Why would she resign? Obama has a nutcase for a pastor who associates with a nutcase priest, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres), he could very well be muslim, shady real estate dealings, and on and on and on and on. We could go on for days but people like yourselves still vote for him. Yeah right, SHE'S the one who should resign....oh brother
oh boy ::)
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he could very well be muslim,
What evidence do you have of this? I'll campaign for John Mccain tomorrow if you can prove this to me.
Obama has denied it.
Obama has been a Christian for many years.
There is zero evidence, that I've seen, showing him to be a Muslim.
Other than your gut feeling, what evidence do you have of this claim?
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Even if the current story is true, which it is turning out to be a cover-up of a cover-up, its hillarious for the simple fact that her daughter is having babies out of wedlock something that Palin is staunchly against. She is a member and founder of a group that preaches abstinence and disdains childhood pregnancy.
So by "claiming" Bristol is 5 months pregnant now, which is probably is not, it does establish the fact that she is having sex, and is having sex with intent to have a baby. So this clearly is enough evidence that Trig could be hers.
Watch, in a few months the story will read, "We are sad to inform that Bristol Palin had a miscarriage". This being that in fact the whole thing is a cover story for a cover story. Notice that she does not look pregnant now when she is supposedly 5 months.
With that said, she could very well be pregnant AGAIN even! haha
All things considered, it is rotten to the core.
First of all the child was conceived out of wedlock. It has yet to be born and they have said the kids are getting married. Further, teenagers rarely have sex with the intent of getting pregnant. From where do you get that it was her intent to have a baby? Regardless, the whole thing is not "rotten to the core". It's a non-issue.
Let's stick to the issues.
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I'll campaign for John Mccain tomorrow if you can prove this to me.
why would someone's religion influence your decision on whether they're qualified to be president of the US?
how about if someone believes the earth is 6000 years old?
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I know True Adonis will like this one... and I'm sure he's the man who could dig up a study or paper confirming it:
The main thing standing against the daughter (Bristol) being the mother of a Down Syndrome baby is her age... seventeen. It's much more likely that a woman in her forties would have a Down Syndrome (21-trisomic) baby....
...unless...
...unless the seventeen year old was exposed to the main cause of chromosomal disorder among pregnancies in young mothers...
...marijuana.
A serious Cheech and Chong fiend stands a much higher chance of having a Down Syndrome baby at a young age.
Prove it TA.
The Luke
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how about if someone believes the earth is 6000 years old?
easy. that would mean that they loved america and were qualified to run it.
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What evidence do you have of this? I'll campaign for John Mccain tomorrow if you can prove this to me.
Obama has denied it.
Obama has been a Christian for many years.
There is zero evidence, that I've seen, showing him to be a Muslim.
Other than your gut feeling, what evidence do you have of this claim?
he's not a muslim. All intelligent leaders pretend to be religiuos because they please the masses. The most intelligent people in the world who lead other through time are atheists pretending to be whatever. Their "God" is power.
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Mc Cain is an idiot. Fucking loser had the election in hand & this proves he's probably too old to run the country
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Mc Cain is an idiot. Fucking loser had the election in hand & this proves he's probably too old to run the country
“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby." senator obama
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I know True Adonis will like this one... and I'm sure he's the man who could dig up a study or paper confirming it:
The main thing standing against the daughter (Bristol) being the mother of a Down Syndrome baby is her age... seventeen. It's much more likely that a woman in her forties would have a Down Syndrome (21-trisomic) baby....
...unless...
...unless the seventeen year old was exposed to the main cause of chromosomal disorder among pregnancies in young mothers...
...marijuana.
A serious Cheech and Chong fiend stands a much higher chance of having a Down Syndrome baby at a young age.
Prove it TA.
The Luke
The baby was reportedly underweight at 6.2 lbs.
:)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/320/12/762
We conclude that the use of marijuana or cocaine during pregnancy is associated with impaired fetal growth and that measuring a biologic marker of such use is important to demonstrate the association.
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If the baby is hers, then she admittedly spent 17 hours speaking, chatting, and FLYING, after her water broke, with a pre-mature Downs Syndrome child. She's already disqualified herself on the grounds of lack of common sense.
Obviously this woman is unfit to lead anything.
Mothers around the country should be ready to eat this woman alive.
Click on this map to read it more clearly. These are her own ADMITTED actions. Does this apepar to be a woman with good decision-making skills?
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The baby was reportedly underweight at 6.2 lbs.
:)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/320/12/762
We conclude that the use of marijuana or cocaine during pregnancy is associated with impaired fetal growth and that measuring a biologic marker of such use is important to demonstrate the association.
...there is supposedly a link between maijuana and chromosonal disorders specifically.
Anything in the literature about that?
The Luke
PS-thanks dude.
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I know True Adonis will like this one... and I'm sure he's the man who could dig up a study or paper confirming it:
The main thing standing against the daughter (Bristol) being the mother of a Down Syndrome baby is her age... seventeen. It's much more likely that a woman in her forties would have a Down Syndrome (21-trisomic) baby....
...unless...
...unless the seventeen year old was exposed to the main cause of chromosomal disorder among pregnancies in young mothers...
...marijuana.
A serious Cheech and Chong fiend stands a much higher chance of having a Down Syndrome baby at a young age.
Prove it TA.
The Luke
There is no way one could attribute direct causation in this case. Way too many factors.
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There is no way one could attribute direct causation in this case. Way too many factors.
...true, but faced with having her life ruined and having to fake a miscarriage and raise a Downs baby all for her mothers ambitions, wouldn't it be hilarious if she broke ranks... told the truth and pledged her support for fellow pot-head Obama?
The Luke
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GetRetarded...
She was picked to steal the election for McCane (old man). That's it. La Gov and Rice wouldnt touch this election. Those two were the best choices but they werent down for the brown against brown nonsense Cane was up too. Lets get real change in office.
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With that said, she could very well be pregnant AGAIN even! haha
All things considered, it is rotten to the core.
her daddy really can't get enough of that.
good summary of the events. Occam's razor dictates that it's more likely that this is a cover -up of a cover-up.
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What evidence do you have of this? I'll campaign for John Mccain tomorrow if you can prove this to me.
Obama has denied it.
Obama has been a Christian for many years.
There is zero evidence, that I've seen, showing him to be a Muslim.
Other than your gut feeling, what evidence do you have of this claim?
and I told you I was 6'6", 295lbs, with abs, 25inch guns, and a multi millionaire.....
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ask your GF if ANY doctor in the world would allow such a timeline to take place. She claims she contacted her doctor at 4 AM friday morning, told her of the leaking, and was given the green light to work all day, speak, then fly 8 hours:
She says the baby would have been out by NOON at the latest...
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She says the baby would have been out by NOON at the latest...
It was her FIFTH baby. From what I have read, each baby arrives faster than the last.
The story goes:
From her TX hotel room, she calls the Doc in alaska at 4 am. Tells her that she's leaking - ambiotic fluid or water has broken. but she wishes to give a speech that afternoon. The doctor - weird - tells her no problem. Give the speech, then fly back to alaska tonight and have the baby here.
Our skinny governor sits and watches other speeches all day, gives a very graceful speech, then boards a flight to Seattle. She poses for pics at the airport. Then she flies form seattle to Alaska. She drives past two large hospitals with large neonatal facilities - remember, she is premature downs with water broken for 16 to 18 hours at this point - and drive 45 minutes from airport to her own hospital and doctor. There, a baby is born, but the hospital doesn't put her on the records like they did the other 2 babies born that day.
It's a remarkable story.
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Why would she resign? Obama has a nutcase for a pastor who associates with a nutcase priest, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres), he could very well be muslim, shady real estate dealings, and on and on and on and on. We could go on for days but people like yourselves still vote for him. Yeah right, SHE'S the one who should resign....oh brother
Close ties? Sitting at a meeting with a man once = Close ties? You obviously watch Bill O'Fuck-head too much...
Looks like the typical Republican scares have worked on you... they never have a dominant candidate, they just put out lies about the other to create doubt in the other...
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, close ties with a terrorist (William Ayres)
If you can prove to us that Obama has close ties with a terrorist, I'll donate to Mccain and start knocking on doors for him tomorrow.
Please list the evidence.
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If you can prove to us that Obama has close ties with a terrorist, I'll donate to Mccain and start knocking on doors for him tomorrow.
Please list the evidence.
The only place that talks about that is FOX NEWS..
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Rob, you saying that you'll campaign for McCain if I can prove this or that. That tells me I was right all along about you being closet lib and were voting for Obama all along. Sad!
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looks to me like bristol-babe is on her second pregnancy now
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Rob, you saying that you'll campaign for McCain if I can prove this or that. That tells me I was right all along about you being closet lib and were voting for Obama all along. Sad!
slow down... i've said from minute 1 that the only real repub in the race is Bob Barr, and he's getting my vote.
Now, do you have Ayers evidence? I hear the name every day on FOX, but they never detail Obama's exact meaningful connection to him. Can you share it?
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We can talk about her Patriotism too. She used to belong to a fringe party that wanted Alaska to secede from the Union!
Rob, you saying that you'll campaign for McCain if I can prove this or that. That tells me I was right all along about you being closet lib and were voting for Obama all along. Sad!
ABC News: Members of 'Fringe' Alaskan Independence Party Say Palin Was a Member
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html
September 01, 2008 6:52 PM
The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
"We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."
She says it's not accurate to describe the party as secessionist -- they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.
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240 your just facinated with having a first black president its not who is best for the country ::) typical whigger....
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240 your just facinated with having a first black president its not who is best for the country ::) typical whigger....
Vote barr 2008.
If Camp Obama would have some screw-ups, we'd have something fun to talk about. unfortunately, he's been quiet this weekend...(8,000 people on Friday night), Dublin, Ohio (19,000 people on Saturday night) and in Battle Creek (17,500 people) tonight.
If Obama would have some cool drama, we could talk about that.
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her daddy really can't get enough of that.
Occam's razor dictates that it's more likely that this is a cover -up of a cover-up.
now THAT is irony, and not in a fashion that is likely to be favorable to your EQ/IQ. :-\
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Vote barr 2008.
If Camp Obama would have some screw-ups, we'd have something fun to talk about. unfortunately, he's been quiet this weekend...(8,000 people on Friday night), Dublin, Ohio (19,000 people on Saturday night) and in Battle Creek (17,500 people) tonight.
If Obama would have some cool drama, we could talk about that.
he hides it better we all have bad pasts... ::)
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he hides it better we all have bad pasts... ::)
it's true.
michelle obama was writing harsh things at 22.
Obama was snorting coke at 22.
Mccain was 55 when he called his wife the C-word. 47 and cheating on his wife.
Palin was 30 and still attending fringe group seperatist meetings.
Hard to know when to cut off past mistakes.
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bottom line is, Palin is a HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTT milf...anyone who says differently has serious homosexual tendencies
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it's true.
michelle obama was writing harsh things at 22.
Obama was snorting coke at 22.
Mccain was 55 when he called his wife the C-word. 47 and cheating on his wife.
Palin was 30 and still attending fringe group seperatist meetings.
Hard to know when to cut off past mistakes.
such as obama was muslim along with his fasshers...its funny you see a commercial with his mom, but NOOOOOOOO>...dad pics with the so called muslim outfit.
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bottom line is, Palin is a HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTT milf...anyone who says differently has serious homosexual tendencies
panda....aka fat buff we all have homosexual tendancies..... ::)
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CNN has dispacted a team of reporters to Alaska, so far they have un covered some emails and phone calls between Palin and the deputies office that she is under investigation with, and those emails will be released shortly. Also the McCain campaign has dispatched a team to Alasaka to find out more info on Sarah Palin, as obviously they did not vet her enough, and r scrambling to beat reporters before they un cover more dirt on Palin. Some dems don't even think Sarah will make it through the convention. This will dominate the news for awhile :D
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Ok Matt. Keep us posted from Canada. We are all so worried about what you people think. ::)
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too much, man. really. i heard that the crack legal team that did the original vetting didn't even bother to scan the local media regarding the woman. 'crack legal team'? perhaps they were smoking crack ::)
gotta love it, man.. gotta love it
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What a HUGE coincidence that just days after these rumors of Bristol being the mother she just happens to get preggo. I personally don't care about her getting preg, but with all this outright lying going on this woman seems like a reall kook to me.
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Anyone else - besides me - think Romney will get the official nomination on Thursday?
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The thing is why in his right mind would McSame choose someone who was currently under investigation??. I mean he knew this was going to happen with the media looking into the investigation. Maybe there is more to this story. Maybe McSame picked Sarah knowing that this investigation would kill her and he would have to drop her and pick Romney. This way at least he tryed to pick her and appeal to his Conservative base to get them on board, yet still ends up with Romney which will help him with indpendents.
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well, no...they're saying she's 5 months pregnant. exactly 5.5 months after the birth of the child in question. in other words, the daughter is now on her second pregnancy
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Anyone else - besides me - think Romney will get the official nomination on Thursday?
I think they'll stick it out with Palin, but it's not out of the question. Depends how much info they uncover that you and I will never get to hear.
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Anyone else - besides me - think Romney will get the official nomination on Thursday?
Yes even Ed Schultz said on Larry King that he doesnt think Sarah will make it through the convention.
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no, they'll almost certainly have to drop palin. 'the quicker, the better'
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well, no...they're saying she's 5 months pregnant. exactly 5.5 months after the birth of the child in question. in other words, the daughter is now on her second pregnancy
Its actually possible, the daughter could have had trig, then to cover it up, Sarah told her daughter to get knocked up again to make it look like trig could not be the daughters baby.
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Yes even Ed Schultz said on Larry King that he doesnt think Sarah will make it through the convention.
But wouldn't that be worse-than-suicide politically for McCain to pick someone and then have her rejected at the convention, especially when the Republican "base" has supported her to vocally in the past few days?????
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But wouldn't that be worse-than-suicide politically for McCain to pick someone and then have her rejected at the convention, especially when the Republican "base" has supported her to vocally in the past few days?????
Yeh it would, so most likely wont happen, but who knows the repubs have made it this far and r almost tied in the polls with Obama, even though Bush has the lowest rating ever. Its the poor uneducated people who are getting polled that make this race so close. They see McCain(old white guy) vs Obama (black scary guy), and they will simply vote for old white guy that looks like their neighbor that lives in the trailer next to them. Its the young voters that will make or break Obama. And with the ground support and money Obama has, he can make sure those young voters get out and vote in nov.
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But wouldn't that be worse-than-suicide politically for McCain to pick someone and then have her rejected at the convention, especially when the Republican "base" has supported her to vocally in the past few days?????
Agree. Unless they find a particularly stinky corpse rotting in her closet, they are stuck with her. If such a skeleton is found, however, I'm sure they'll find some way of kicking her out which doesn't remind everyone that they screwed the pooch. It'll probably involve Palin declining the VP nomination on the grounds that she loves Alaska too much to leave or some such bullshit.
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Its actually possible, the daughter could have had trig, then to cover it up, Sarah told her daughter to get knocked up again to make it look like trig could not be the daughters baby.
i doubt that they'd have quite gone that far, especially considering that the daughter seems to get fucked easily enough on her own. but to think that the new pregnancy somehow is proof that the original child isn't the daughter's is truly silly: she's 5 months along.. exactly 5 1/2 months after the mother's supposed birth.
perhaps they're hoping that everyone will become exhausted with keeping a scorecard, and the news will move onto other things.
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How old is the next youngest daughter? Breeding age? If so, we need an Alaskan Getbigger on the job IMMEDIATELY.
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I see the Democrats are trying to find any story now. So you are saying that since the daughter gave birth, exactly 2 1/2 weeks later she gets pregnant again. Ok... keep trying to discredit Palin, but this is a new low for the Democrats.
Amazing.
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Yeh it would, so most likely wont happen, but who knows the repubs have made it this far and r almost tied in the polls with Obama, even though Bush has the lowest rating ever. Its the poor uneducated people who are getting polled that make this race so close. They see McCain(old white guy) vs Obama (black scary guy), and they will simply vote for old white guy that looks like their neighbor that lives in the trailer next to them. Its the young voters that will make or break Obama. And with the ground support and money Obama has, he can make sure those young voters get out and vote in nov.
I know you like Obama and all, but you have to admit honestly that McCain's pick of Palin was a pretty brilliant move, at least potentially. She is hot (=appeals to most normal heterosexual males with a sex drive), she is right-leaning (=appeals to swing voters, especially in the black south, where obama can easily gain ground because of his skin color), and she is the epitome of the suburban soccer mom, though admittedly a hotter version of that stereotype.
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I see the Democrats are trying to find any story now. So you are saying that since the daughter gave birth, exactly 2 1/2 weeks later she gets pregnant again. Ok... keep trying to discredit Palin, but this is a new low for the Democrats.
Amazing.
Hi Mr. Palin
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I know you like Obama and all, but you have to admit honestly that McCain's pick of Palin was a pretty brilliant move, at least potentially. She is hot (=appeals to most normal heterosexual males with a sex drive), she is right-leaning (=appeals to swing voters, especially in the black south, where obama can easily gain ground because of his skin color), and she is the epitome of the suburban soccer mom, though admittedly a hotter version of that stereotype.
wrong again panda ::)
Most of the women they interviewed didn't give a fuck about her.
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Its actually possible, the daughter could have had trig, then to cover it up, Sarah told her daughter to get knocked up again to make it look like trig could not be the daughters baby.
Was thinking the same thing.
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Repubs always beat down dems saying they dont stand for good family values, well looks like this one has turned around and bit them in the ass.
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I see the Democrats are trying to find any story now.
looks like they found one hell of a story, yep.
So you are saying that since the daughter gave birth, exactly 2 1/2 weeks later she gets pregnant again.
it happens all the time. her own mother had four kids while still in her early thirties.
Ok... keep trying to discredit Palin.
no thanks. she's doing a fine job of it herself
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I know you like Obama and all, but you have to admit honestly that McCain's pick of Palin was a pretty brilliant move, at least potentially. She is hot (=appeals to most normal heterosexual males with a sex drive), she is right-leaning (=appeals to swing voters, especially in the black south, where obama can easily gain ground because of his skin color), and she is the epitome of the suburban soccer mom, though admittedly a hotter version of that stereotype.
Not too sure on that. The epitome of a soccer mom is putting your kids first - not having a special needs baby, other young kids, a pregnant teenager who needs her mom now - but deciding to focus your efforts on a VP race which involves alot of travel and not being with your kids.
That may not sit well with some moms/women, and stuff I am reading and hearing tells me this also.
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I cant wait tell a reporter asks Sarah, why she decided to accept the vp spot, knowing that her daughter was pregnant, and knew that the media would pick her daughter apart, and her family. This just shows a lack of moral judgement, that Sarah put herself before her family. Bristols life is over, she will be mocked in school, and the media will be all over her, all thanks to Mom :-\
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wrong again panda ::)
Most of the women they interviewed didn't give a fuck about her.
As hard as it may be for you, try to resist the urge to reply to every damn post I make. It's starting to get creepy.
Not too sure on that. The epitome of a soccer mom is putting your kids first - not having a special needs baby, other young kids, a pregnant teenager who needs her mom now - but deciding to focus your efforts on a VP race which involves alot of travel and not being with your kids.
That may not sit well with some moms/women, and stuff I am reading and hearing tells me this also.
Excellent points, CQ. The only thing I would say in response is that I'm not sure if most "stereotypical" soccer moms would think things through to the point you have. On the surface, she seems to be perfect in a lot of ways. In terms of raw political experience, she of course is in lacking, of course. But I wonder how much of a difference that will really make among most staunchly conservative voters. I suspect most republicans are more anti-Obama than they are pro-McCain/Palin.
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Not too sure on that. The epitome of a soccer mom is putting your kids first - not having a special needs baby, other young kids, a pregnant teenager who needs her mom now - but deciding to focus your efforts on a VP race which involves alot of travel and not being with your kids.
That may not sit well with some moms/women, and stuff I am reading and hearing tells me this also.
I can see it now, moms gossiping in salons across America. Saying, " my daughter would never do something like Sarah's daughter" "Can't she raise her kids right". U know how bitchy some women can get towards other women.
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Repubs always beat down dems saying they dont stand for good family values, well looks like this one has turned around and bit them in the ass.
I don't really care how much the daughter likes the cock. I wouldn't condemn Palin as a bad parent because her kid got pregnant. My principal concerns are:
1. Did Palin abuse her authority as Gov to extract personal payback on the ex bro-in-law?
2. Did she show incredibly poor judgement and a willingness to lie to the American public, and cover up lies, with this highly suspect pregnancy fiasco?
3. Her inexperience.
It's not a question of trying to discredit her or find any story on her. These are simply things that should be looked into.
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Anyone else - besides me - think Romney will get the official nomination on Thursday?
make the bet on intrade.com $100 would go a long way with the odds they have now.
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Not too sure on that. The epitome of a soccer mom is putting your kids first - not having a special needs baby, other young kids, a pregnant teenager who needs her mom now - but deciding to focus your efforts on a VP race which involves alot of travel and not being with your kids.
That may not sit well with some moms/women, and stuff I am reading and hearing tells me this also.
Good point!
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As hard as it may be for you, try to resist the urge to reply to every damn post I make. It's starting to get creepy.
You know Im right.
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I cant wait tell a reporter asks Sarah, why she decided to accept the vp spot, knowing that her daughter was pregnant, and knew that the media would pick her daughter apart, and her family. This just shows a lack of moral judgement, that Sarah put herself before her family. Bristols life is over, she will be mocked in school, and the media will be all over her, all thanks to Mom :-\
Something tells me she won't be going back to school. ;D
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Not too sure on that. The epitome of a soccer mom is putting your kids first - not having a special needs baby, other young kids, a pregnant teenager who needs her mom now - but deciding to focus your efforts on a VP race which involves alot of travel and not being with your kids.
That may not sit well with some moms/women, and stuff I am reading and hearing tells me this also.
It sits fine with me though. A woman has just as much of a right to pursue political aspirations as a man. Would anyone ever blame a man for spending less time with his kids to go into politics?
I've got a few objections to Palin which hinge on the outcome of further investigation, but being a bad mother isn't one of them. I'm more concerned with her being a bad person in general and a crappy VP.
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Something tells me she won't be going back to school. ;D
Would you give her some cock?
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It sits fine with me though. A woman has just as much of a right to pursue political aspirations as a man. Would anyone ever blame a man for spending less time with his kids to go into politics?
I've got a few objections to Palin which hinge on the outcome of further investigation, but being a bad mother isn't one of them. I'm more concerned with her being a bad person in general and a crappy VP.
I agree with you on all but call me old fashoin I think that a mother should be around her kids when they are growing up.
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I agree with you on all but call me old fashoin I think that a mother should be around her kids when they are growing up.
But she's been around all this time and her daughter keeps getting pregnant. Maybe it's be better if she went away for awhile? ;D j/k
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the Biden-Palin VP debate should be interesting.
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Something tells me she won't be going back to school. ;D
;D Agreed. However, if, IF her mom does become VP, little Bristol will never have to work a day in her life, so school will be unnecessary. She can just lay around all day fucking, which is apparently what she is good at.
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Would you give her some cock?
Stop bothering me Sean. >:(
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;D Agreed. However, if, IF her mom does become VP, little Bristol will never have to work a day in her life, so school will be unnecessary. She can just lay around all day fucking, which is apparently what she is good at.
Reason enough to get preggo again. I personally would give her some cock, just in case anyone was wondering. ::) ;D
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make the bet on intrade.com $100 would go a long way with the odds they have now.
I was on intrade this morning as i follow that site alot, it pertty much right all the time on predicting the markets etc. Obama was at 59% to win the pres nomination, now hes at 61.2% since this story broke about brisol, not a good sign for mccain.
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you friends are nuts,,mccain won the election gh15 told you that over and over again ,.,both matt t and 240 are making themselves to be the jokes of getbig for ever to come past november,,dont tell gh15 it never said so ,,gh15 telling you here again and again mccain is president of usa and the sarah so called story of daughter pregnant is none story and family matter private that is known long before selection by us,,in addition the other story about sarahs fifth child is complete and utter fabrication ,,
in any case this is your vp so learn to live with it ...sooner better
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bottom line is, Palin is a HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTT milf...anyone who says differently has serious homosexual tendencies
That is 100 percent the truth... Preach on brother.
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McCain's ego would never allow him to lose to a black man period...There is no way he was going to go out like that...These types of guys have ego's that make Arnold's look like little boys...
This race was way to close and Obama was only going to gain more steam...So this is McCAin's way of losing "gracefully" to Obama...He can save face to all his racists buddies and also get to blame a woman for ruining it for him...
Its actually fcking Genius if it all plays out this way...And McCain will look like a Saint to all the housewives of the world...What a way to go out...
Obama will be president for approx a year and then my best guess is Biden will have to step in for him...And we the world will look at the similiarities between JFK and Obama for the rest of time...It will be unfortunate but it looks like that is the way the stars are lining up...
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Its actually fcking Genius if it all plays out this way...And McCain will look like a Saint to all the housewives of the world...What a way to go out...
Yeah, McCain's a mastermind. He's got guaranteed MILF pussy lined up for him wherever he goes in America and abroad for the rest of his life.
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McCain's ego would never allow him to lose to a black man period...There is no way he was going to go out like that...These types of guys have ego's that make Arnold's look like little boys...
This race was way to close and Obama was only going to gain more steam...So this is McCAin's way of losing "gracefully" to Obama...He can save face to all his racists buddies and also get to blame a woman for ruining it for him...
Its actually fcking Genius if it all plays out this way...And McCain will look like a Saint to all the housewives of the world...What a way to go out...
Obama will be president for approx a year and then my best guess is Biden will have to step in for him...And we the world will look at the similiarities between JFK and Obama for the rest of time...It will be unfortunate but it looks like that is the way the stars are lining up...
good theory.....
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She is DONE for. At the acceptance speech she just couldn`t stop mentioning her son "Trigg Paxson Van Palin". Turns out its not her son at all and she was never pregnant. Her 16 year old daughter was pregnant and she tried to cover it up. They took her out of school and lied claiming "mono" at the SAME time the pregnancy occured. Hillarious that she claims it was her son that she JUST gave birth to in April.
Palin cannot be trusted with anything. This also sends a horrible message to young girls and families dealing with teen pregnancy. This isn`t 1915 where you should be ashamed and have to cover it all up.
Palin is a moron as is Mccain for his poor choice.
That story is a total lie.Stop looking at MSNBC and the Daily KOOK blog.
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That story is a total lie.Stop looking at MSNBC and the Daily KOOK blog.
MSNBC is reporting on this now?
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I COULD CARE LESS IF ITS TRUE OR NOT......i'm voting for mccain. i can't support someone that is for abortion..gay marriage and wants to add trillions of dollars in new goverment programs
obama= for extreme gun control
obama=against offshore drilling
obama= wants to do away with nuclear energy
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I see the Democrats are trying to find any story now. So you are saying that since the daughter gave birth, exactly 2 1/2 weeks later she gets pregnant again. Ok... keep trying to discredit Palin, but this is a new low for the Democrats.
Amazing.
Work on your extra chin Ron.
1. That baby is the daughter's. This lady is Gov of a State but there isnt one picture of her preg. Palin is a small woman....so you cant say the fat hid the bump. The daughter had the baby bump for that current infant. Could give a rat's a$$ if the girl is preg but dont come up with lies. Palin is suppose to the whole some true vs Obama.
2. Using her position to put people in the unemployment. Again... she is the perfect woman. What's up with that?
The point is she is there only for votes. There was no background check. McCain didnt give a s##t. Rice and Bobby backed out because they were not going to play political games...pitting them against another brown person. Those two were the best qualified for VP if he wanted to go minority or woman. If he is in office...she'll be taking care of her kids. The guy is an old school politican. It dont change cause he picked a beauty queen. Nothing out of her mouth matters him other than securing a win.
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I COULD CARE LESS IF ITS TRUE OR NOT......i'm voting for mccain. i can't support someone that is for abortion..gay marriage and wants to add trillions of dollars in new goverment programs
obama= for extreme gun control
obama=against offshore drilling
obama= wants to do away with nuclear energy
It's "I COULDN'T CARE LESS"...
To your other points... I thought Obama was FOR nuclear energy.
From an Interview on "Meet the Press".
Russert: In terms of climate change, global warming, you've talked about wind and solar and biofuels. What about nuclear? All—in all realistic assessment, don't we need more nuclear power in order to wean ourselves off of those same fuels that are contaminating the world?
Obama: I think we do have to look at nuclear, and what we've got to figure out is can we store the material properly? Can we make sure that they're secure? Can we deal with the expense? Because the problem is, is that a lot of our nuclear industry, it reinvents the wheel. Each nuclear power plant that is proposed has a new design, has—it, it has all kinds of changes, there are all sorts of cost overruns. So it has not been an effective option. That doesn't mean that it can't be an effective option, but we're going to have to figure out storage and safety issues. And my attitude when it comes to energy is there's no silver bullet. We've got to be—we've, we've got to look at every possible option."
Now... I do not like his stance on Guns... That's his biggest issue... At least in my opinion.
I believe in the Second Amendment without any reservation... So If I'm going to blast Obama for something, that's it.
As far as "Offshore drilling is concerned." I think it's fine, but you know full well, that if we start more oil drilling, we'll never work on the alternative energy sources which we NEED to work on... The second someone starts finding more oil... People will be happy, and they will stop worrying about alternative energy until we're in a crunch again.
People have very short term memories... This isn't the first time the US had an "energy issue" related to oil, but once the wallet stopped being felt, people forgot all about it.
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Tu, I fear that Obama will never look at nuclear very closely. He doesn't think there is a safe way to dispose the waste, therefore, he will table the idea. Nuclear, clean coal and natural gas are our quickest and most efficient fuel sources to solve our energy crisis. Alternative energies are smart to persue but they may take many many yrs.
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I don't get irritated that easily but all you sticking to the "The Down's baby is the daughters" are just wrong. WRONG. It was just refuted by major networks, adding that the daughter would have had to get pregnant 2 weeks after delivery. Admit that it was a smear tactic, criticize these gutter negative sources and move on to the issues. Attack her for relatively light experience, not her daughter's personal life and an outright unfounded lie by Daily KOS.
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Tu, I fear that Obama will never look at nuclear very closely. He doesn't think their is a safe way to dispose the waste, therefore, he will table the idea. Nuclear, clean coal and natural gas are our quickest and most efficient fuel sources to solve our energy crisis. Alternative energies are smart to persue but they may take many many yrs.
I can see where you're coming from, but you have to admit that off shore drilling is simply another band-aid... Once we go down that road, people will forget all about alternative energy sources.
I agree that Clean Coal, Nuclear, and Natural gas are the best ways to do it today, but again, if we start drilling for more oil, that's all people will do... They will not look at anything else.
ADD nation.
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I don't get irritated that easily but all you sticking to the "The Down's baby is the daughters" are just wrong. WRONG. It was just refuted by major networks, adding that the daughter would have had to get pregnant 2 weeks after delivery. Admit that it was a smear tactic, criticize these gutter negative sources and move on to the issues. Attack her for relatively light experience, not her daughter's personal life and an outright unfounded lie by Daily KOS.
Bullcrap... It's EASY to get impregnated very shortly after birth... Happens all the time.
Her daughters life is a direct reflection of how she handles those she "leads".
If she doesn't lead her daughter well, then she's certainly not going to be a good leader for a nation of individuals.
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I think nuclear is a bigger issue than offshore drilling, but Obama is leaning away from nuclear. Offshore drilling will help some but its not a long term solution. A wise leader would have an all of the above approach right now and be flexible to drop whatever is the least efficient or least cost effective.
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A Down's baby is significantly more likely with an older mother and the daughter would have had to get pregnant 2 weeks after giving birth. Its just not credible. Insulting stories like this should be significant proof before they get out. We shouldn't have to produce proof to discredit every bullshit story that comes up.
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Bullcrap... It's EASY to get impregnated very shortly after birth... Happens all the time.
Her daughters life is a direct reflection of how she handles those she "leads".
If she doesn't lead her daughter well, then she's certainly not going to be a good leader for a nation of individuals.
To disagree slightly, just me, but I would personally assume Shoot knows his stuff about medical matters.
To agree now - if you look, she was out of school all those months sick. In that time she was NOT attending school - she managed to drive into someone's car, and get 3 traffic citations [seperate days] in only that short while. She also managed to get pregnant in that time.
So - too sick to attend school - but well enough to drive around getting traffic tickets and go on dates and get busy with the boyfriend?
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Why is everyone assuming that the daughter IS indeed pregnant (again)?
Seems a little too convenient to me that she happens to be FIVE months pregnant when the Downs Syndrome baby (Trig) is FIVE months old.
How likely is it that the daughter would just happen to currently be EXACTLY far enough along in her (another) pregnancy to EXACTLY overlap with the previous pregnancy?
Too many coincidences... too many holes in the mothers (Gov Palin) story... too much cover-up...
This whole thing stinks...
Why is there no proper investigative journalism in the US?
The Luke
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Why is everyone assuming that the daughter IS indeed pregnant (again)?
Seems a little too convenient to me that she happens to be FIVE months pregnant when the Downs Syndrome baby (Trig) is FIVE months old.
How likely is it that the daughter would just happen to currently be EXACTLY far enough along in her (another) pregnancy to EXACTLY overlap with the previous pregnancy?
Too many coincidences... too many holes in the mothers (Gov Palin) story... too much cover-up...
This whole thing stinks...
Why is there no proper investigative journalism in the US?
The Luke
Only a fool wouid accept the pregnancy at its word right now.
Some fools do.
There is proper investigative journalism going on rightg now. She was introduced 100 hours ago, and already we know a half-dozen really damaging things about her. Give it 3 weeks.
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A Down's baby is significantly more likely with an older mother and the daughter would have had to get pregnant 2 weeks after giving birth. Its just not credible. Insulting stories like this should be significant proof before they get out. We shouldn't have to produce proof to discredit every bullshit story that comes up.
That's not what statistics show in regards to down's syndrome children.
Also, women do get pregnant two weeks after having given birth... Happens all the time.
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That's not what statistics show in regards to down's syndrome children.
Also, women do get pregnant two weeks after having given birth... Happens all the time.
Actually, they do. The rate of genetic defects in newborns increases significantly in women over 40. This is genetics 101. Quite the sticking point for people who think women over 40 shouldn't be having children. Very well documented.
Here's a chart. A Downs Child being born to a teenager is very, very uncommon. Theoretically speaking, it's much more likely that Palin had a child with Downs. The rate for her daughter having a child with it at 16 is even greater than 1 in 1667.
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Actually, they do. The rate of genetic defects in newborns increases significantly in women over 40. This is genetics 101. Quite the sticking point for people who think women over 40 shouldn't be having children. Very well documented.
Here's a chart. A Downs Child being born to a teenager is very, very uncommon. Theoretically speaking, it's much more likely that Palin had a child with Downs. The rate for her daughter having a child with it at 16 is even greater than 1 in 1667.
I stand corrected... Still a lot of oddities going on with this entire thing... Too many to just ignore and say "it can't or didn't happen".
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pot smoking increases those odds big time for the teenage parents.
not saying there's any evidence the kid did it.
her boyfriend, who brags about being a redneck, ass-kicker, looks like the type.
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how do we know that the baby has downs? Just because they say so, surely you don't think that these people are trustworthy.
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I stand corrected... Still a lot of oddities going on with this entire thing... Too many to just ignore and say "it can't or didn't happen".
Oh yeah, still a ton of oddities. I mean, it's still possible for her to have a child with Downs. All those studies show is that it' just much more likely in an older woman. Doesn't mean whatsherface didn't have the kid.
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What is more fishy to my armchair CSI self, is rumour has the baby is the kids - and boom - she announces the kid is pregnant.
That is one strange co-incidence. Combat a pregnancy rumour with a pregnancy.
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"her boyfriend, who brags about being a redneck, ass-kicker, looks like the type"
Nice stereotyping! :o
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What is more fishy to my armchair CSI self, is rumour has the baby is the kids - and boom - she announces the kid is pregnant.
That is one strange co-incidence. Combat a pregnancy rumour with a pregnancy.
it would be a very strange coincidence indeed. Occam's razor tells us that it is more likely a lie.
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The latest REAL problem?
Forget babies... How about THIS piece of info.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/02/politics/animal/main4407224.shtml
(Political Animal) THE ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY.... What may prove to be the single most damaging angle to Sarah Palin's role on the Republican Party ticket? There are quite a few contenders (ethics scandal, earmarks, inexperience, outside-the-mainstream views), but following up on Hilzoy's item from last night, Palin's association with the Alaska Independence Party might be the most politically detrimental.
It's practically impossible to make a "Country First" argument when your running mate is affiliated with a political party that puts country second.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which since the 1970s has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
"We are a state's rights party," Clark -- a self-employed goldminer -- tells ABC News. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."
For all the talk about Barack and Michelle Obama's patriotism, John McCain's running mate was a member of a political party that liked the idea of seceding from the United States altogether. It's the kind of idea that would have been more common in the 1850s.
Advocating secession is, practically by definition, un-American. How does the right go after Obama's patriotism while supporting a ticket with a candidate who joined a secessionist party?
We are, after all, talking about a party founded by a man who said, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." The same man, AIP founder Joe Vogler, also said, "[T]he fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government."
How is this any better than Jeremiah Wright? Why would Sarah Palin voluntarily join this man's political party?
Complicating matters, Marc Ambinder has a video of a AIP leader explaining that party members "must 'infiltrate' -- his words -- the other two parties and push for the cause of Alaskan independence."
I suspect McCain and his aides didn't know about any of this. Indeed, they couldn't have -- they didn't vet her. But now that this revelation has come to light, what's the defense?
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I wish Manhattan would succeed. We have been carrying you bitches fo too long
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I saw bookmakers in Britain and Ireland are offering 8-1 odds that McCain will have to dump Palin to end the soap opera! BRUTAL selection by the old guy :'(
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Why is everyone assuming that the daughter IS indeed pregnant (again)?
Seems a little too convenient to me that she happens to be FIVE months pregnant when the Downs Syndrome baby (Trig) is FIVE months old.
How likely is it that the daughter would just happen to currently be EXACTLY far enough along in her (another) pregnancy to EXACTLY overlap with the previous pregnancy?
Too many coincidences... too many holes in the mothers (Gov Palin) story... too much cover-up...
This whole thing stinks...
Why is there no proper investigative journalism in the US?
The Luke
I agree...And if she just so happens to lose the baby over the next couple months, that SHOULD be the nail in the coffin...