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The Politico's Michael Calderone offers a look at the lineups for the Sunday-morning talk shows:
Joe Biden will be making his first appearance on "Meet the Press" this Sunday since joining the Democratic ticket, an NBC spokesperson just confirmed.
As mentioned earlier, Obama will be on "This Week" and McCain on "Face the Nation."
So when's Palin's turn?
Why, what a good question. When is Palin's turn?
Prior to last night, McCain campaign handlers could, with varying degrees of credibility, argue that Palin couldn't sit down for media interviews because she was prepping for last night's speech. That's not exactly compelling, but that was their story and they were sticking to it.
But they're going to need new excuses to keep Palin hidden from questions. It's not a sustainable approach.
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on sunday's palin hunts moose. ;D
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During the primaries Clinton and Obama both refused to go on Fox news' Sunday show. Admittedly Fox is right-wing, but this was not reported widely. So a Republican candidate not going on one of the 6 left-wing media outlets is scandalous?
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During the primaries Clinton and Obama both refused to go on Fox news' Sunday show. Admittedly Fox is right-wing, but this was not reported widely. So a Republican candidate not going on one of the 6 left-wing media outlets is scandalous?
How about the most widely recognized talk show..."Meet The Press", "moosejay?" ::)
The reviews are in and most people think that Sarah Palin nailed her speech Wednesday night before the Republican National Convention.
Political gurl Karl Rove agrees with those accolades, but also thinks that Palin faces a difficult road ahead.
"She had a test last Friday and she nailed it," Rove told a crowd gathered for a breakfast panel discussion in St. Paul, Minneapolis. "She had a test last night and she nailed it. But being the newest player on the stage, she will also be the most tested and the most judged on the stage. Everyone is going to ask: 'When is she going to appear on a Sunday talk show program?' 'When is she doing to do an interview?' 'When is she going to give an unscripted speech?' 'When will she do a townhall meeting?' 'When will she answer questions on foreign policy?' 'How will she perform in a debate?'"
"And we're going to hear more questions about her performance than about any of the other candidates," said Rove. "The media is going to wonder, 'How can we make this an easy storyline and the easy storyline is, 'Can she do it?'"
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During the primaries Clinton and Obama both refused to go on Fox news' Sunday show. Admittedly Fox is right-wing, but this was not reported widely. So a Republican candidate not going on one of the 6 left-wing media outlets is scandalous?
Palin won't even go on Fox shows :)
She jumped the shark when she was introduced. It's all downhill from here. Rudy syndrome... looks perfect on paper, but the more people meet them, the more they choose another person.
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How about the most widely recognized talk show..."Meet The Press", "moosejay?" ::)
The reviews are in and most people think that Sarah Palin nailed her speech Wednesday night before the Republican National Convention.
Political gurl Karl Rove agrees with those accolades, but also thinks that Palin faces a difficult road ahead.
"She had a test last Friday and she nailed it," Rove told a crowd gathered for a breakfast panel discussion in St. Paul, Minneapolis. "She had a test last night and she nailed it. But being the newest player on the stage, she will also be the most tested and the most judged on the stage. Everyone is going to ask: 'When is she going to appear on a Sunday talk show program?' 'When is she doing to do an interview?' 'When is she going to give an unscripted speech?' 'When will she do a townhall meeting?' 'When will she answer questions on foreign policy?' 'How will she perform in a debate?'"
"And we're going to hear more questions about her performance than about any of the other candidates," said Rove. "The media is going to wonder, 'How can we make this an easy storyline and the easy storyline is, 'Can she do it?'"
When is Obama gonna do a a townhall meeting. He's been dodging McCaian on this like a scared lil bitch. Palin is debating Biden on October 2nd. Look it up. And I am not Moosejay. Nice try loser.
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Palin won't even go on Fox shows :)
She jumped the shark when she was introduced. It's all downhill from here. Rudy syndrome... looks perfect on paper, but the more people meet them, the more they choose another person.
We're gonna see. I don't think you'll be singing the same tune on Nov. 5th.
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her handlers wisely wont let her open her mouth in a situation that isnt scripted and not in front of a sympathetic neo-con audience
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her handlers wisely wont let her open her mouth in a situation that isnt scripted and not in front of a sympathetic neo-con audience
Obama? Townhall meeting? no teleprompters. LOL
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Obama? Townhall meeting? no teleprompters. LOL
why do you keep going on about a 'townhall meeting'? obama has already done every possible venue of various sizes as well as plenty of debates with people far more intelligent than anyone on the repub ticket.
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The Politico's Michael Calderone offers a look at the lineups for the Sunday-morning talk shows:
Joe Biden will be making his first appearance on "Meet the Press" this Sunday since joining the Democratic ticket, an NBC spokesperson just confirmed.
As mentioned earlier, Obama will be on "This Week" and McCain on "Face the Nation."
So when's Palin's turn?
Why, what a good question. When is Palin's turn?
Prior to last night, McCain campaign handlers could, with varying degrees of credibility, argue that Palin couldn't sit down for media interviews because she was prepping for last night's speech. That's not exactly compelling, but that was their story and they were sticking to it.
But they're going to need new excuses to keep Palin hidden from questions. It's not a sustainable approach.
Plan to see Palin on the Today show and The View (but certainly not Oprah!). That is the best she can handle and the way the Republicans will marginalize her to "appeal" to the "women's vote."
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He's a gifted speaker. All smoke and mirrors. He's pandered to the short attention span of the American Idol public. I haven't seen anything in his appearances that qualifies as character. He won't recover.
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He's a gifted speaker. All smoke and mirrors. He's pandered to the short attention span of the American Idol public. I haven't seen anything in his appearances that qualifies as character. He won't recover.
he has consistently been extremely easy on his opponents, avoids personal attacks, trys to avoid things that stray from the issues period. he even said during the height of the palin controversies that her family should be off limits and urged his supporters to not use those methods.
on the other hand, your buddies spent the entire convention so far hurling personal attack after personal attack at obama himself. they have ridiculed the man himself, and the things he has done. they ridiculed any kind of community service. they did not even mention a single issue important to americans. all they did, the entire time, was to commit the whole convention to insulting barack obama, including palin, who he has actually stood up for. yes very classy. give me a break, the republicans are dirtbags plain and simple and everyone but the hardline base sees it.
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he has consistently been extremely easy on his opponents, avoids personal attacks, trys to avoid things that stray from the issues period. he even said during the height of the palin controversies that her family should be off limits and urged his supporters to not use those methods.
on the other hand, your buddies spent the entire convention so far hurling personal attack after personal attack at obama himself. they have ridiculed the man himself, and the things he has done. they ridiculed any kind of community service. they did not even mention a single issue important to americans. all they did, the entire time, was to commit the whole convention to insulting barack obama, including palin, who he has actually stood up for. yes very classy. give me a break, the republicans are dirtbags plain and simple and everyone but the hardline base sees it.
Check the polls. Everybody?? ::)
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Check the polls. Everybody?? ::)
Did someone mention the latest polls? ;D
(http://www.pollster.com/08USPresGEMvO.png)
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Yes your messiah is ahead but not by much. If everybody but the diehard base sees it, then we have one hell of a base. LOL at you cockroaches.
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Yes your messiah is ahead but not by much.
Not my messiah, mine is the King of Kings, the Lord Jehovah also known as Jesus Christ. ;) If Obama is your messiah, that is your issue.
Last I checked, it doesn't matter how far ahead you are, simply that you are ahead. ;)
If everybody but the diehard base sees it, then we have one hell of a base. LOL at you cockroaches.
Come again? This makes no sense. ???
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Not my messiah, mine is the King of Kings, the Lord Jehovah also known as Jesus Christ. ;) If Obama is your messiah, that is your issue.
Last I checked, it doesn't matter how far ahead you are, simply that you are ahead. ;)
Come again? This makes no sense. ???
Read the above posts Benny. Matrix says the Republicans are dirtbags and everyone but the hardline base sees it. Now try to follow. If that's true and the polls have Republican candidate above 42%. Then there must be one hell of a large base.
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Read the above posts Benny. Matrix says the Republicans are dirtbags and everyone but the hardline base sees it. Now try to follow. If that's true and the polls have Republican candidate above 42%. Then there must be one hell of a large base.
Yes, a base of dirtbags, as Matrix mentioned. ;D
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he has consistently been extremely easy on his opponents, avoids personal attacks, trys to avoid things that stray from the issues period. he even said during the height of the palin controversies that her family should be off limits and urged his supporters to not use those methods.
on the other hand, your buddies spent the entire convention so far hurling personal attack after personal attack at obama himself. they have ridiculed the man himself, and the things he has done. they ridiculed any kind of community service. they did not even mention a single issue important to americans. all they did, the entire time, was to commit the whole convention to insulting barack obama, including palin, who he has actually stood up for. yes very classy. give me a break, the republicans are dirtbags plain and simple and everyone but the hardline base sees it.
I was appalled at her snide slams at him, not the policy ones fair enough, the personal ones. All he has said is back off her kid, she seems a fine person, welcome to the race, congrats on first woman and all those things and that is how she returns the good manners.
I know this a pres race so things must be done, but epic display of cutthroat lack of manners and class in front of your children no less.
Least it only helps Obama look more classy and got his people digging in their pockets.
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her handlers wisely wont let her open her mouth in a situation that isnt scripted and not in front of a sympathetic neo-con audience
Funny, Osama really sucks at unscripted speaking.
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Funny, Osama really sucks at unscripted speaking.
The name's OBAMA, and he does it every day in front of audiences larger than McBush could pay to attend. ;)
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Funny, Osama really sucks at unscripted speaking.
Agree he is better at speaking than off the cuff.
Many people would like to know how Palin does, but appears she is too busy.
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Agree he is better at speaking than off the cuff.
I really don't agree with this, unless thinking thoughtfully before answering some questions is a bad thing? :-\ Obama speaks off the cuff all the time on the campaign trail. I've seen him do it in person. He also is quite funny at times.
By the way, Joe Biden going to be in the hot seat of "Meet The Press" this Sunday. I wonder when Palin will be on to answer questions about the economy, education, healthcare, foreign policy, her lack of experience, etc. ::)
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I really don't agree with this, unless thinking thoughtfully before answering some questions is a bad thing? :-\ Obama speaks off the cuff all the time on the campaign trail. I've seen him do it in person. He also is quite funny at times.
By the way, Joe Biden going to be in the hot seat of "Meet The Press" this Sunday. I wonder when Palin will be on to answer questions about the economy, education, healthcare, foreign policy, her lack of experience, etc. ::)
Hm, yes I agree with top point. He is good like that, comes across very likable, genuine, minimal gaffes etc. I still think he is better at speaking though, as it is simply outstanding, hence the crowds draws. People say whatever and make dumb excuses, but he is packing them in, a top orator.
And Palin is busy Benny >:(
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Hm, yes I agree with top point. He is good like that, comes across very likable, genuine, minimal gaffes etc. I still think he is better at speaking though, as it is simply outstanding, hence the crowds draws. People say whatever and make dumb excuses, but he is packing them in, a top orator.
And Palin is busy Benny >:(
haha ;D
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we've never heard ONE word from Palin that was unscripted.
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Sarah Palin's Surge
September 5, 2008;
www.wsj.com Page A14
By now nearly everyone in America knows that Sarah Palin described herself at the GOP convention Wednesday night as "just your average hockey mom." She isn't average anymore, though she can still throw a hip check. After a national political debut that ranks with Barack Obama's in 2004 and Ronald Reagan's in 1964, the Alaska Governor may be the future of the Republican Party.
With his nomination last night, John McCain is now the leader of the GOP (see here1). But win or lose in November, Senator McCain has elevated Mrs. Palin to new prominence and jumbled Republican categories in a healthy way. The reaction at St. Paul's Xcel Center—and the fascination around the country—shows how welcome this is.
For the past several years, the GOP has been caught in the malaise of what we have often called the Beltway status quo. As insurgents challenging Washington mores in the 1980s and 1990s, Republicans were the party of ideas and energy. But over time, as the Bush Presidency ran into trouble and the Tom DeLay Congress began to care most about its own re-election, the party lost its verve, even its raison d'etre.
On Wednesday, Governor Palin offered a new populist excitement, both as a messenger and in her message. By "messenger," we aren't merely referring to her gender, though that seems to be the preoccupation of the media. Her relative youth (44) and large family—complete with its many complications—were themselves a cultural statement. Though many in the media claim she was chosen because she appealed to the Christian right, Mrs. Palin never even raised the subject of abortion. She didn't have to, since her youngest son, the one with special needs, is proof enough of her pro-life conviction.
The same goes for her record of challenging the powers that be in Alaska. With so many Republicans tainted by corruption, GOP voters have been aching for someone willing to challenge that business as usual. By all accounts, Mrs. Palin has done so in Alaska, and is popular for it. In the coming weeks, we'll learn more about her Alaska record, and rightly so. Her governing record is fair—even essential—media game, in contrast to her daughter Bristol's pregnancy.
It's being said that in choosing Governor Palin, Mr. McCain was making a play for disaffected Hillary Clinton voters. Yet we heard just one line invoke women as a political issue, and then only in a positive sense: "This is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity." Our sense is that the Governor's real political potential lies in her appeal to Reagan Democrats and Truman Republicans, voters Mr. McCain will need in November.
Mrs. Palin was certainly helped this week by the media contempt for her selection. The condescension has been so thick that it offended not just Republicans in St. Paul but others who may have tuned in Wednesday to see if she was as unqualified as Sally Quinn and David Frum said she was. Mrs. Palin's refusal to be cowed is the kind of triumph over media disdain that most Americans relish.
No doubt the press corps—and Democrats—are anticipating that Mrs. Palin will be another Dan Quayle, who was a 41-year-old Senator when he was nominated for vice president in 1988. George H.W. Bush foresaw Senator Quayle as a similar reach across generations. But at the first sign of criticism, Mr. Bush's advisers gave Mr. Quayle a paint-by-numbers speech and all but stuffed him into a trunk for the duration of the campaign. His reputation never recovered.
The McCain camp wisely let Mrs. Palin play the role of a traditional Vice Presidential candidate in attacking the opposition, and doing so in her own voice. Her dissection of Mr. Obama's thin Presidential resume was as effective as anyone's, all the more so because she could compare her own executive experience to the 47-year-old Senator's.
We hope the campaign now resists any temptation to keep her under wraps. No doubt she will make mistakes on the stump, as everyone does, especially with an embarrassed press corps now looking for any what-is-the-capital-of-Laos-type mistake. But after this week, Mrs. Palin won't be easy to dismiss as too small for the job.
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they know what they're doing. As little exposure as possible from now on, watch and see. Carefully controlled appearances to keep the gloss on her. Five minutes with an Olbermann and she'd be exposed, let's be honest. obama's been given bumps and bruises for 19 months now, and we're surprised he braved oReilly. Palin isn't experienced or tough enough to face live, unscripted scrutiny, let's be honest here.
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they know what they're doing. As little exposure as possible from now on, watch and see. Carefully controlled appearances to keep the gloss on her. Five minutes with an Olbermann and she'd be exposed, let's be honest. obama's been given bumps and bruises for 19 months now, and we're surprised he braved oReilly. Palin isn't experienced or tough enough to face live, unscripted scrutiny, let's be honest here.
I don't think she'll be hidden at all - they've got two months to show the people that this woman is fit for the position.
Also, exposed as what? Most of the legitimate criticisms thrown her way can also be applied to Obama.
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I don't think she'll be hidden at all - they've got two months to show the people that this woman is fit for the position.
Also, exposed as what? Most of the legitimate criticisms thrown her way can also be applied to Obama.
Watch and see. She'll be in Alaska for ten days, followed by quiet, controlled events.
You have biden and Obama shaking hands in every city in Ohio and Michigan, giving off the cuff speechees all day long. Not palin. She'll give 2 or 3 a week for the next 6 weeks. All scripted and prepared.
Realize we're 60 days from the election and we've never heard an original thought from the woman. they will keep it that way as long as possible, til the debates. Watch and see - they're going to put her likeness EVERYWHERE but keep the chances for her to fck it up to a minimum. It just takes one pissed orff face, or verbal miscue or getting rattled or '57 state' moment to come undone. Obama and mccain have been speaking nonstop to cameras, 16 hours a day, for the last year and a half. They are smooth and keep themselves out of trouble for the most part. "100 years of war" or "57 states" is the worst, after 19 months of nonstop 'gotcha' questions.
They won't let her fck things up by doing many townhall meetings or casual Q&A< you can bet on that.
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Watch and see. She'll be in Alaska for ten days, followed by quiet, controlled events.
You have biden and Obama shaking hands in every city in Ohio and Michigan, giving off the cuff speechees all day long. Not palin. She'll give 2 or 3 a week for the next 6 weeks. All scripted and prepared.
Realize we're 60 days from the election and we've never heard an original thought from the woman. they will keep it that way as long as possible, til the debates. Watch and see - they're going to put her likeness EVERYWHERE but keep the chances for her to fck it up to a minimum. It just takes one pissed orff face, or verbal miscue or getting rattled or '57 state' moment to come undone. Obama and mccain have been speaking nonstop to cameras, 16 hours a day, for the last year and a half. They are smooth and keep themselves out of trouble for the most part. "100 years of war" or "57 states" is the worst, after 19 months of nonstop 'gotcha' questions.
They won't let her fck things up by doing many townhall meetings or casual Q&A< you can bet on that.
I don't see it. I don't know why you think she won't thrive in "real time" situations, getting through her teleprompter miscues suggest otherwise. "They are smooth and keep themselves of trouble"? - Biden's practically the poster child for a potential '57 state' moment, and, like you said he's out there every day.
I still don't understand the criticism of the prepared speech. Imagine, a politician giving a speech that came from a speechwriter. The outrage! Anyway, watch, she's going to destroy Biden in the debates.
Palin's had an incredible start, but will need to keep momentum going. This won't be accomplished by sitting
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getting through her teleprompter miscues suggest otherwise.
she is a former newscaster.
she had practiced the speech for days.
she had the speech on paper right in front of her too.
Her teleprompter stopped working at times, so she read it from her paper. Not a huge deal, and something that newscasters do every day.
I'm holding off praise until I see her asked a question she doesnt know ahead of time. we haven't seen that yet, and won't for at least 2-3 weeks.
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I'm holding off praise until I see her asked a question she doesnt know ahead of time. we haven't seen that yet, and won't for at least 2-3 weeks.
Fair enough.
I actually have known about Palin for awhile since a friend who knows much more about this stuff than I do suggested her as a possible running mate much eariler this year. I think she will surprise people.
That said, I do consider her almost as historically unqualifed and green for VP as I do Obama for President.
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That said, I do consider her almost as historically unqualifed and green for VP as I do Obama for President.
LOL.. good call!
I'm listening to FOX radio, as I do a ton lately.
Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.
Biden. 35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee. He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to. Been doing it for decades.
Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden. I almost shat myself laughing.
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LOL.. good call!
I'm listening to FOX radio, as I do a ton lately.
Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.
Biden. 35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee. He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to. Been doing it for decades.
Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden. I almost shat myself laughing.
I think just the fact that Obama could even be compared to Palin on an experience level speaks volumes. And, it's ludicrous to compare Palin's experience to Biden. It just shows the Dems have the ticket backwards.
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Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.
Biden. 35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee. He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to. Been doing it for decades.
Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden. I almost shat myself laughing.
Yes, that is amusing.
Biden's practically the poster child for a potential '57 state' moment, and, like you said he's out there every day.
Yes, Obama didn't reign him in. We await the first big gaffe, it is sure to come.
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Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?
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The Politico's Michael Calderone offers a look at the lineups for the Sunday-morning talk shows:
Joe Biden will be making his first appearance on "Meet the Press" this Sunday since joining the Democratic ticket, an NBC spokesperson just confirmed.
As mentioned earlier, Obama will be on "This Week" and McCain on "Face the Nation."
So when's Palin's turn?
Why, what a good question. When is Palin's turn?
Prior to last night, McCain campaign handlers could, with varying degrees of credibility, argue that Palin couldn't sit down for media interviews because she was prepping for last night's speech. That's not exactly compelling, but that was their story and they were sticking to it.
But they're going to need new excuses to keep Palin hidden from questions. It's not a sustainable approach.
I stopped reading after "the Politico's"
Rob...seriously, you're getting your stories from ultra liberal websites. When are you going to admit you're a liberal...a BIG liberal. It not like coming out and telling people you're gay or something............but then again I think I'd rather be gay than admit I was a liberal!!
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Rob...seriously, you're getting your stories from ultra liberal websites. When are you going to admit you're a liberal...a BIG liberal. It not like coming out and telling people you're gay or something............but then again I think I'd rather be gay than admit I was a liberal!!
Please answer my Q, joe:
Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?
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Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?
Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.
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Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.
You believe 18 months of governorship provides one with more experience, knowledge, and preparation to deal with foreign threats, than serving 35 years in Congreess and leading the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee?
You just exposed yourself bigtime.
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You believe 18 months of governorship provides one with more experience, knowledge, and preparation to deal with foreign threats, than serving 35 years in Congreess and leading the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee?
You just exposed yourself bigtime.
But not as a lib.
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But not as a lib.
Fine. You're not a lib. but you are blind.
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Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.
idiot