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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2008, 07:05:11 AM »
Hm, yes I agree with top point. He is good like that, comes across very likable, genuine, minimal gaffes etc. I still think he is better at speaking though, as it is simply outstanding, hence the crowds draws. People say whatever and make dumb excuses, but he is packing them in, a top orator.

And Palin is busy Benny >:(
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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2008, 07:52:24 AM »
we've never heard ONE word from Palin that was unscripted.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2008, 08:42:55 AM »
Sarah Palin's Surge
September 5, 2008;
www.wsj.com Page A14

By now nearly everyone in America knows that Sarah Palin described herself at the GOP convention Wednesday night as "just your average hockey mom." She isn't average anymore, though she can still throw a hip check. After a national political debut that ranks with Barack Obama's in 2004 and Ronald Reagan's in 1964, the Alaska Governor may be the future of the Republican Party.

With his nomination last night, John McCain is now the leader of the GOP (see here1). But win or lose in November, Senator McCain has elevated Mrs. Palin to new prominence and jumbled Republican categories in a healthy way. The reaction at St. Paul's Xcel Center—and the fascination around the country—shows how welcome this is.

For the past several years, the GOP has been caught in the malaise of what we have often called the Beltway status quo. As insurgents challenging Washington mores in the 1980s and 1990s, Republicans were the party of ideas and energy. But over time, as the Bush Presidency ran into trouble and the Tom DeLay Congress began to care most about its own re-election, the party lost its verve, even its raison d'etre.

On Wednesday, Governor Palin offered a new populist excitement, both as a messenger and in her message. By "messenger," we aren't merely referring to her gender, though that seems to be the preoccupation of the media. Her relative youth (44) and large family—complete with its many complications—were themselves a cultural statement. Though many in the media claim she was chosen because she appealed to the Christian right, Mrs. Palin never even raised the subject of abortion. She didn't have to, since her youngest son, the one with special needs, is proof enough of her pro-life conviction.

The same goes for her record of challenging the powers that be in Alaska. With so many Republicans tainted by corruption, GOP voters have been aching for someone willing to challenge that business as usual. By all accounts, Mrs. Palin has done so in Alaska, and is popular for it. In the coming weeks, we'll learn more about her Alaska record, and rightly so. Her governing record is fair—even essential—media game, in contrast to her daughter Bristol's pregnancy.

It's being said that in choosing Governor Palin, Mr. McCain was making a play for disaffected Hillary Clinton voters. Yet we heard just one line invoke women as a political issue, and then only in a positive sense: "This is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity." Our sense is that the Governor's real political potential lies in her appeal to Reagan Democrats and Truman Republicans, voters Mr. McCain will need in November.

Mrs. Palin was certainly helped this week by the media contempt for her selection. The condescension has been so thick that it offended not just Republicans in St. Paul but others who may have tuned in Wednesday to see if she was as unqualified as Sally Quinn and David Frum said she was. Mrs. Palin's refusal to be cowed is the kind of triumph over media disdain that most Americans relish.

No doubt the press corps—and Democrats—are anticipating that Mrs. Palin will be another Dan Quayle, who was a 41-year-old Senator when he was nominated for vice president in 1988. George H.W. Bush foresaw Senator Quayle as a similar reach across generations. But at the first sign of criticism, Mr. Bush's advisers gave Mr. Quayle a paint-by-numbers speech and all but stuffed him into a trunk for the duration of the campaign. His reputation never recovered.

The McCain camp wisely let Mrs. Palin play the role of a traditional Vice Presidential candidate in attacking the opposition, and doing so in her own voice. Her dissection of Mr. Obama's thin Presidential resume was as effective as anyone's, all the more so because she could compare her own executive experience to the 47-year-old Senator's.

We hope the campaign now resists any temptation to keep her under wraps. No doubt she will make mistakes on the stump, as everyone does, especially with an embarrassed press corps now looking for any what-is-the-capital-of-Laos-type mistake. But after this week, Mrs. Palin won't be easy to dismiss as too small for the job.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2008, 08:50:12 AM »
they know what they're doing. As little exposure as possible from now on, watch and see.  Carefully controlled appearances to keep the gloss on her.  Five minutes with an Olbermann and she'd be exposed, let's be honest.  obama's been given bumps and bruises for 19 months now, and we're surprised he braved oReilly.  Palin isn't experienced or tough enough to face live, unscripted scrutiny, let's be honest here.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2008, 09:07:10 AM »
they know what they're doing. As little exposure as possible from now on, watch and see.  Carefully controlled appearances to keep the gloss on her.  Five minutes with an Olbermann and she'd be exposed, let's be honest.  obama's been given bumps and bruises for 19 months now, and we're surprised he braved oReilly.  Palin isn't experienced or tough enough to face live, unscripted scrutiny, let's be honest here.

I don't think she'll be hidden at all - they've got two months to show the people that this woman is fit for the position.

Also, exposed as what?  Most of the legitimate criticisms thrown her way can also be applied to Obama.



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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2008, 09:12:06 AM »
I don't think she'll be hidden at all - they've got two months to show the people that this woman is fit for the position.

Also, exposed as what?  Most of the legitimate criticisms thrown her way can also be applied to Obama.

Watch and see.  She'll be in Alaska for ten days, followed by quiet, controlled events.

You have biden and Obama shaking hands in every city in Ohio and Michigan, giving off the cuff speechees all day long.  Not palin.  She'll give 2 or 3 a week for the next 6 weeks.  All scripted and prepared.

Realize we're 60 days from the election and we've never heard an original thought from the woman.  they will keep it that way as long as possible, til the debates. Watch and see - they're going to put her likeness EVERYWHERE but keep the chances for her to fck it up to a minimum.  It just takes one pissed orff face, or verbal miscue or getting rattled or '57 state' moment to come undone.  Obama and mccain have been speaking nonstop to cameras, 16 hours a day, for the last year and a half.  They are smooth and keep themselves out of trouble for the most part.  "100 years of war" or "57 states" is the worst, after 19 months of nonstop 'gotcha' questions.

They won't let her fck things up by doing many townhall meetings or casual Q&A< you can bet on that.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2008, 09:27:15 AM »
Watch and see.  She'll be in Alaska for ten days, followed by quiet, controlled events.

You have biden and Obama shaking hands in every city in Ohio and Michigan, giving off the cuff speechees all day long.  Not palin.  She'll give 2 or 3 a week for the next 6 weeks.  All scripted and prepared.

Realize we're 60 days from the election and we've never heard an original thought from the woman.  they will keep it that way as long as possible, til the debates. Watch and see - they're going to put her likeness EVERYWHERE but keep the chances for her to fck it up to a minimum.  It just takes one pissed orff face, or verbal miscue or getting rattled or '57 state' moment to come undone.  Obama and mccain have been speaking nonstop to cameras, 16 hours a day, for the last year and a half.  They are smooth and keep themselves out of trouble for the most part.  "100 years of war" or "57 states" is the worst, after 19 months of nonstop 'gotcha' questions.

They won't let her fck things up by doing many townhall meetings or casual Q&A< you can bet on that.

I don't see it.  I don't know why you think she won't thrive in "real time" situations, getting through her teleprompter miscues suggest otherwise.  "They are smooth and keep themselves of trouble"?  -  Biden's practically the poster child for a potential '57 state' moment, and, like you said he's out there every day.

I still don't understand the criticism of the prepared speech.   Imagine, a politician giving a speech that came from a speechwriter.  The outrage!  Anyway, watch, she's going to destroy Biden in the debates.

Palin's had an incredible start, but will need to keep momentum going.  This won't be accomplished by sitting


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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2008, 09:30:59 AM »
getting through her teleprompter miscues suggest otherwise.

she is a former newscaster.

she had practiced the speech for days.

she had the speech on paper right in front of her too.

Her teleprompter stopped working at times, so she read it from her paper.  Not a huge deal, and something that newscasters do every day.


I'm holding off praise until I see her asked a question she doesnt know ahead of time.  we haven't seen that yet, and won't for at least 2-3 weeks.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2008, 09:46:59 AM »



I'm holding off praise until I see her asked a question she doesnt know ahead of time.  we haven't seen that yet, and won't for at least 2-3 weeks.

Fair enough.

I actually have known about Palin for awhile since a friend who knows much more about this stuff than I do suggested her as a possible running mate much eariler this year.  I think she will surprise people.

That said, I do consider her almost as historically unqualifed and green for VP as I do Obama for President.
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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2008, 09:52:57 AM »
That said, I do consider her almost as historically unqualifed and green for VP as I do Obama for President.

LOL.. good call!

I'm listening to FOX radio, as I do a ton lately.

Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.

Biden.  35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee.  He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to.  Been doing it for decades. 

Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden.  I almost shat myself laughing. 

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2008, 09:57:29 AM »
LOL.. good call!

I'm listening to FOX radio, as I do a ton lately.

Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.

Biden.  35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee.  He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to.  Been doing it for decades. 

Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden.  I almost shat myself laughing. 

I think just the fact that Obama could even be compared to Palin on an experience level speaks volumes.  And, it's ludicrous to compare Palin's experience to Biden.  It just shows the Dems have the ticket backwards.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2008, 10:41:11 AM »
Rush, Glenn beck, and hannity keep talking about how she's more qualified that Biden even.

Biden.  35 years in senate, running the foreign relations committee.  He's seen everything on every foreign enemy, and is one of the top people in DC when it comes to knowing what the bad guys worldwide are up to.  Been doing it for decades. 

Hannity said she's better prepared for a foreign threat than Biden.  I almost shat myself laughing. 

Yes, that is amusing.

Biden's practically the poster child for a potential '57 state' moment, and, like you said he's out there every day.

Yes, Obama didn't reign him in. We await the first big gaffe, it is sure to come.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2008, 10:54:13 AM »
Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2008, 11:02:41 AM »
The Politico's Michael Calderone offers a look at the lineups for the Sunday-morning talk shows:

Joe Biden will be making his first appearance on "Meet the Press" this Sunday since joining the Democratic ticket, an NBC spokesperson just confirmed.

As mentioned earlier, Obama will be on "This Week" and McCain on "Face the Nation."

So when's Palin's turn?

Why, what a good question. When is Palin's turn?

Prior to last night, McCain campaign handlers could, with varying degrees of credibility, argue that Palin couldn't sit down for media interviews because she was prepping for last night's speech. That's not exactly compelling, but that was their story and they were sticking to it.

But they're going to need new excuses to keep Palin hidden from questions. It's not a sustainable approach.

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Rob...seriously, you're getting your stories from ultra liberal websites. When are you going to admit you're a liberal...a BIG liberal. It not like coming out and telling people you're gay or something............but then again I think I'd rather be gay than admit I was a liberal!!

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2008, 11:03:20 AM »
Rob...seriously, you're getting your stories from ultra liberal websites. When are you going to admit you're a liberal...a BIG liberal. It not like coming out and telling people you're gay or something............but then again I think I'd rather be gay than admit I was a liberal!!

Please answer my Q, joe:

Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2008, 11:06:52 AM »
Coach, do you agree with hannity - that palin is better prepared to deal with a foreign policy crisis than Biden?

Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2008, 11:12:34 AM »
Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.

You believe 18 months of governorship provides one with more experience, knowledge, and preparation to deal with foreign threats, than serving 35 years in Congreess and leading the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee?

You just exposed yourself bigtime. 

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2008, 11:13:26 AM »
You believe 18 months of governorship provides one with more experience, knowledge, and preparation to deal with foreign threats, than serving 35 years in Congreess and leading the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee?

You just exposed yourself bigtime. 




But not as a lib.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2008, 11:14:16 AM »

But not as a lib.

Fine.  You're not a lib.  but you are blind.

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Re: Palin dodging Sunday Morning talk shows
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2008, 04:26:08 AM »
Yes......but I want to see what context he put that in.
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