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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lift Studios on September 05, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
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He tipped the scales at just over 192lbs and looks like he will win the lightheavy class. Can he win the whole show? It's shaping up that way.
The Swami predicted him to win on his blog, there is still hope for LT after his horrible North American predictions.
Moody from tonight's show in NYC:
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awesome natural physique
great arab genetics
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awesome natural physique
great arab genetics
I concur.
He has that muscular and ripped look that is only attainable by being natural and arab.
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gums that (almost) rival Melvin Anthony's and Sean Allen's
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Some sic conditioned competitors in this show.
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you know, to silence all the haters, the NPC should publish the results of the drug tests, show exactly who was tested, what was tested for, what the results were, and who conducted the tests. then no one would have reason to doubt the natural status of any of the contestants.
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you know, to silence all the haters, the NPC should publish the results of the drug tests, show exactly who was tested, what was tested for, what the results were, and who conducted the tests. then no one would have reason to doubt the natural status of any of the contestants.
Word!
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Some sic conditioned competitors in this show.
Well, there's a first. Vastus lateralis (outer quad) striations seen from a side chest/triceps pose.
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Looks like he really nailed his cycle, awesome job dude.
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you know, to silence all the haters, the NPC should publish the results of the drug tests, show exactly who was tested, what was tested for, what the results were, and who conducted the tests. then no one would have reason to doubt the natural status of any of the contestants.
::) ::)
they could pass every drugs test in existance and still not be natural
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if Jrod would have had his condition from last year, with this newly added size he'd be right there for the overall. But from the looks of it, Moody and Miguel Neil have the best chance of winning it right now.
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If this guys are actually natural then DAMN they are shredded for nattys.
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they could pass every drugs test in existance and still not be natural
sure, with enough money and expertise. but as it is now, no one has ever been DQed or lost their placing for failing a drug test at Team Universe.
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Moody and JRod both look amazing. I haven't seen any listing of competitors anywhere but it would be hard to imagine any naturals at the TU besting them this weekend. (Anyone know where the list of competitors can be found?)
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I'd like to believe Team U is naturaly but let's get real here.
Prime example....Melissa Titwiller.......talks about her anavar cycling for Team U and them competes and keeps her first spot placing at last years contest. Either no testing was actually done or Miss Bleach and Tits passed it somehow. Either way athletes like her have no integrity entering natty contests unnatural.
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awesome natural physique
great arab genetics
No way that douche bag is drug free........
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JRod looks awesome! This is a guy that you can almost guarantee is natural. Looks amazing
Photos of most competitors
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1285
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you know, to silence all the haters, the NPC should publish the results of the drug tests, show exactly who was tested, what was tested for, what the results were, and who conducted the tests. then no one would have reason to doubt the natural status of any of the contestants.
Unfortunately they don't publish any results. NPC or IFBB, In the Team Universe only the Top 2 get tested. Right after you except your trophy you are rushed to the back where you provide a urine sample with someone watching and it's placed in a sealed vial and sent fed ex.
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sure, with enough money and expertise. but as it is now, no one has ever been DQed or lost their placing for failing a drug test at Team Universe.
They keep that un wraps!!!!
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I can tell you know once ou get to the IFBB Amateur world Championships they perform random testing. Have people been caught yes. What are the consequences? Sucks. They are stripped of there medal and cant compete the following year but the year after they can compete again.
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I can tell you know once ou get to the IFBB Amateur world Championships they perform random testing. Have people been caught yes. What are the consequences? Sucks. They are stripped of there medal and cant compete the following year but the year after they can compete again.
Agree, bro
And I wish you to do well at Men's World this year .
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Unfortunately they don't publish any results.
so therefore there is no consequences for failing the drug test. the overalls gets to keep their pro cards. everyone gets to keep their medals.
NPC or IFBB, In the Team Universe only the Top 2 get tested. Right after you except your trophy you are rushed to the back where you provide a urine sample with someone watching and it's placed in a sealed vial and sent fed ex.
samples are taken, but are they even ever tested? those tests are expensive, you know
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I can tell you know once you get to the IFBB Amateur world Championships they perform random testing. Have people been caught yes. What are the consequences? Sucks. They are stripped of there medal and cant compete the following year but the year after they can compete again.
since they don't tell us who has been tested and who has passed their test, it could be that 100% of the randomly selected people who are drug tested fail at the World Amateurs. Even if it was 50% it means that the IFBB is not really serious about having a drug free contest.
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Why the hell do you people want to see drug free sports? You realize it will be a jump back 100+ years?!
Drug free sports is like racing in a Flintstones car...I mean a motor is cheating isn't it? ::)
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since they don't tell us who has been tested and who has passed their test, it could be that 100% of the randomly selected people who are drug tested fail at the World Amateurs. Even if it was 50% it means that the IFBB is not really serious about having a drug free contest.
They do tell you who fails. They always test the top 2, then random testing is done after that. you can be 18th and still be tested. These are the people that didnt pass and there placing
http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/jeju_definitive.pdf
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Unfortunately they don't publish any results. NPC or IFBB, In the Team Universe only the Top 2 get tested. Right after you except your trophy you are rushed to the back where you provide a urine sample with someone watching and it's placed in a sealed vial and sent fed ex.
superior arab intellect.
(brutal using spell check on the wrong word)
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he has a head like a xenomorph, and teeth like a horse.
+He uses drugs for a natural show.
He basically fails at life.
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Why the hell do you people want to see drug free sports? You realize it will be a jump back 100+ years?!
we're not complaining about drugs in bodybuilding. we're complaining about the hypocrisy. The IFBB claims their international contests are natural events. The rules state that anyone competing in an international event is suppose to be 3 years drug free.
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superior arab intellect.
(brutal using spell check on the wrong word)
lmao, haha, graammmer, punctuations, whats it matter I must be arab huh? spell check for what as long as you know what im talking about !!! Do something constructive with your time!!!
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he has a head like a xenomorph, and teeth like a horse.
+He uses drugs for a natural show.
He basically fails at life.
hmmm, I have a head like a xenomorph, but I'm not afraid to have my pic on the net. Where is yours? and teeth like a horse, well come fix them!!!! come up with something original
I use drugs for a natural show but I get tested poly, urine and blood and still pass, ooohhh but you'll still say there not accurate and they dont prove anything.
I fail at life, hmm. I must lets see, played football in the Arena league, played football in the NFL, have my own persoanl training studio doing what I love to do, haha go to the gym everyday. Have a beautiful little girl. I geuss if thats failing that hen I will continue on my path to destruction ;D
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we're not complaining about drugs in bodybuilding. we're complaining about the hypocrisy. The IFBB claims their international contests are natural events. The rules state that anyone competing in an international event is suppose to be 3 years drug free.
I can't agree with you more!!!! Alot of people on the boards claim I'm on something fro the pics thats all fine and dandy but whats funny is when they see me in person they end up saying damn your not as big in person, shyt I'm bigger than you, not offense taken. lol Bodybuilding is an illusion. Now if you were to see some of these guys at the World's you would be amazed. You look at the US team and compare them to The rest of the elite countries, You will definetly say damn our guys are natural!!!!
Is it a damn shame how some of these huys can pass a test, Yes!!!! Will I say something of course to a certain extent. But that is there option. Can I do something about it!!! Hell Yes, Make sure I bring the best package I can without using the drugs and beat them. Whats that say to them!!!!! Thats all the gratification I need !!!!
International events being drug tested? Yes they are. For the things that they can test for. The other stuff you just cant test for everyone knows that. Cmon Dennis Wolf a couple of years ago won the World's and now he is one of the top 5 guys at the Olympia, hmmm. Does it bother me? NO.
I first started competing in 98 weighing 193 on stage, now 10 years later I'm still the same actually weighed in at 192 at the Team Universe. Just more muscle maturity. Learned my body!!
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I can't agree with you more!!!! Alot of people on the boards claim I'm on something fro the pics thats all fine and dandy but whats funny is when they see me in person they end up saying damn your not as big in person,
it's not the size that makes us question drug free claims, it's the conditioning. it's pretty much impossible to keep muscle while getting ripped without the use of drugs
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Aloha Kiyoshi,
Hey buddy get use to getting trashed-it's all good! I've been down this road with all the haters and all the non believers,take it as a compliment and drive yourself to show these turds what natural bodybuilding is all about. You looked fantastic at the TU and hope Mr. Manion sends the USA Team once again. Come out with your own DVD and shut all of these pussies up once and for all. Those who purchased my "Hurricane Warning" judge me a little differently now.
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we're not complaining about drugs in bodybuilding. we're complaining about the hypocrisy. The IFBB claims their international contests are natural events. The rules state that anyone competing in an international event is suppose to be 3 years drug free.
Welcome to life, people live and deceit for their gain. You get excited about this?! Have you ever heard a politician with the power to start wars and make huge financial changes speak?!!
Just be happy that you aren't stupid enough to believe the BS and spend your energy on something more useful.
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Kiyoshi looked great now that he had the gyno surgically removed!
All natural and gyno-less!
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Kiyoshi looked great now that he had the gyno surgically removed!
All natural and gyno-less!
lol
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lol
It's true bro..the gyno did kinda suck and now it's gone you are an amazing and inspiring natural.
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yes it is pretty much impossible if you have the discipline (lacking) of a typical ifbb pro. Drug free bodybuilders actually work hard for their conditionining. Not too difficult a concept.
it's not the size that makes us question drug free claims, it's the conditioning. it's pretty much impossible to keep muscle while getting ripped without the use of drugs
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Aloha Kiyoshi,
Hey buddy get use to getting trashed-it's all good! I've been down this road with all the haters and all the non believers,take it as a compliment and drive yourself to show these turds what natural bodybuilding is all about. You looked fantastic at the TU and hope Mr. Manion sends the USA Team once again. Come out with your own DVD and shut all of these pussies up once and for all. Those who purchased my "Hurricane Warning" judge me a little differently now.
STFU. Why is it that you only post in threads regarding someones natural status? Why do you have to come on here to "show all the HATAS" how natural you are? Most likely couse your not. If you were natural you would be satisfied just knowing it. Youre a fucking midget and you have to use drugs to feel better about yourself. Do you cry yourself to sleep at night?
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STFU. Why is it that you only post in threads regarding someones natural status?
no, he only posts where he can hawk his DVD
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yes it is pretty much impossible if you have the discipline (lacking) of a typical ifbb pro. Drug free bodybuilders actually work hard for their conditionining. Not too difficult a concept.
so I guess all drug free bodybuilders from 15-30 years ago didn't work hard for their conditioning, because they were no where near as muscular and ripped as 'drug free' bodybuilders are today. Someone with Faildo's size and conditioning could have competed with the top level drug using pros of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Why weren't there any natural pros back then? if you're going to say modern training and nutrition techniques, be specific, because I'm sure I can find someone in the mags talking about those same techniques back then.
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If Chris and Kiyoshi weren't naturals then they would be nothing. They'd be little more than the average juiced up gym rat. There would certainly be nothing marketable there at all. Under the banner of 'naturals' they are talked about and sell stuff!
Not that I am implying they aren't lifetime naturals... of course. That would basically be accusing them of being lying conmen and I could never do such a thing.
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STFU. Why is it that you only post in threads regarding someones natural status? Why do you have to come on here to "show all the HATAS" how natural you are? Most likely couse your not. If you were natural you would be satisfied just knowing it. Youre a fucking midget and you have to use drugs to feel better about yourself. Do you cry yourself to sleep at night?
Wow, bro you have issues!!! The man is been competing for years, and you put this man down like that. He comes on here to answer questions and help people out and you still put him down.hmm. something is wrong with that. Trust me, Chris is a inspiration and a good guy, and a real down to earth person. I actually had a person live with me for 2 months at my house while I was getting ready for the Team Universe and he was in awe of what I go through being a natural bodybuilder, to prepping my food, to posing , times I would get up and train, cardio and the same time all of the chores I had to do around the house along with work. So the person that was staying with me knows what chris and I go through as well as all other natural boybuilders.
Do I put people down to make me feel better? Never!!!! Why waste the time. Everyone can learn from everyone. Take someone's knowledge and use it and put it to good use. try different methods, techniques etc.
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it's not the size that makes us question drug free claims, it's the conditioning. it's pretty much impossible to keep muscle while getting ripped without the use of drugs
Hey bro.In my eyes nothing is impossible. Thats the attitude I have. If you think something is impossible than your only defeating yourself before you start. When I start my dieting for a show. There is no cheating involved. I can almost bet, most competitors I go up against cheat. some examples this year when I competed in the Team Universe. Some people came up to me and said damn your conditoning is better this year than last year what did you do differently. I looked at them while they were stuffing a chocolate angel food cake minutes before they got onstage. I said " by not eating that crap" Another person asked do I ever cheat when I get ready? I asked him the same question, and here is the answer I got. "well what do you mean by cheating" cmon, what kind of question is that, if it's not on your diet that you planned out or your trainer planned out thats cheating. Stick to it!!! Cause thats what makes the difference. Don't forget bodybuilding is an illusion. I carry 191 to 195 very well as so Ive been told. I look alot bigger onstage than in person. lol. I love it
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kiyoshi is a baller.
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so I guess all drug free bodybuilders from 15-30 years ago didn't work hard for their conditioning, because they were no where near as muscular and ripped as 'drug free' bodybuilders are today. Someone with Faildo's size and conditioning could have competed with the top level drug using pros of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Why weren't there any natural pros back then? if you're going to say modern training and nutrition techniques, be specific, because I'm sure I can find someone in the mags talking about those same techniques back then.
To this dieting has changed, food has changed tecniques, equipment, etc.... even back when arnold and lou were competing you see them smoking a j while getting ready for a show. Things have changed and will contniue to change even once we get into our 50's and 60's I beleive the natural bodybuilders will be bigger and even harder than we are now.
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Thanks for the insight Kiyoshi and Chris F!
Good to see you on the board.
I will buy both your DVDs.
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GH15 will own all in this thread the so called, "natural" all you gusy are right,,,,not wrong. ::)
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whenever a competitive BBer (the most ego-driven and narcissistic creature in the animal kingdom) is arguing that he isn't "even really that big", you know he is A) lieing and B) hiding something
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whenever a competitive BBer (the most ego-driven and narcissistic creature in the animal kingdom) is arguing that he isn't "even really that big", you know he is A) lieing and B) hiding something
you forgot C) does gay4pay
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you forgot C) does gay4pay
haha touche my friend ;D
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you know, to silence all the haters, the NPC should publish the results of the drug tests, show exactly who was tested, what was tested for, what the results were, and who conducted the tests. then no one would have reason to doubt the natural status of any of the contestants.
wake up bro.....u think they are all natural and that tests show the whole truth.....get real dude!
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Eve if they published everything, there would still be a debate and people would still say they are not accurate so it really would'nt matter!!! ;D
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Hey, bro. I have a question for you. When you were coming up the ranks, did you doubt the guys who calimed to be drug free natural winning contest and bing in the magazines? Do you doubt or have you doubted some of the other BBs you competed against who calimed to be natural too?
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Honestly, I can tell to me it really dosnt matter!!! I believe whether your natural or not natural if you bring in the best condition you can you can beat the majority. I have competed against people that were natural and non natural and have beaten them or been beaten by them. It gives me more of a challenge to come back even better next time. I love competing period. quick example. the other day I had a international show in mexico. I can tell you the majority if not just about everyone was on something. they looked to damn hard and grainy. and big as shyt. One guy came up to me and my girlfriend and handed us an envelope so I opened it. Looked at this piece of paper and it was a shyt load of all the streoids he sells. lmao. I told my girlfriend to tell him (cause he only understood spanish) that I was natural. The look on his face was priceless, absolutely priceless!!! I love that. I ened up winning the overall.
When i go up against people I dont determine whether there using or not using I just get p there and let my physique do the talking I hope that answered your question!!!