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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Harley Buckshot on September 12, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
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hope that trophy is worth it....... :-\
I guess he has some "secret formula" that will make everything go back to normal one day :o
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Jay has been on the gas hard since he was a teen. It will be interesting to see what happens if he tries to go clean.
No matter what he's stuck with that giant melon.
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Jay has been on the gas hard since he was a teen. It will be interesting to see what happens if he tries to go clean.
No matter what he's stuck with that giant melon.
why would he go clean?
HRT dose and he will feel great for the rest of his life.
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His chin won't recover :'(
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His chin won't recover :'(
I dint see anything strange at all, his chin is normal. ???
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I dint see anything strange at all, his chin is normal. ???
Exactly - I looked at it and thought that my chin probably looks worse. :-\
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His chin won't recover :'(
Nice shot of the trademark Hitler Youth haircut in all it's glory.
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these guys have been saying that about his chin without even seeing pics of when he was young, his face has the same porportions....everyones facial features get larger as you get older.
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lol
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how old is Jay there?
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why would he go clean?
HRT dose and he will feel great for the rest of his life.
HRT is for normal people that need some 'boost'. using insulin and gh and other exotic formulas for years cannot be compared to that of an old guy who did some test back in the day. u dipshit.
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HRT is for normal people that need some 'boost'. using insulin and gh and other exotic formulas for years cannot be compared to that of an old guy who did some test back in the day. u dipshit.
Edogenous hormone shutdown after years of drugs is overrated. He will be fine.
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Edogenous hormone shutdown after years of drugs is overrated. He will be fine.
i also hear early onset of alzheimer's is a bonus
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Why is this question not asked about Ronnie? Or was he always natural?
I wish good health for both of them, but it won't surprise me if both end up with some kind of health problem.
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Why is this question not asked about Ronnie? Or was he always natural?
I wish good health for both of them, but it won't surprise me if both end up with some kind of health problem.
Well, I should have put: ROnnie, Jay, Markus, Wolf, Dexter, Victor, Branch, Dennis James, Trey brewer etc etc etc... but i couldnt fit that all in. But, i think the general bb pop just "assumes" that since Ronnie and Jay were Mr. O (#1)- then they think "they must be using the highest dosages".. but their could be amateur level guys using tons more than pros.
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16?
talking about genetics. :o
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Why is this question not asked about Ronnie? Or was he always natural?
I wish good health for both of them, but it won't surprise me if both end up with some kind of health problem.
Ronnie's still natural - currently at 20% of his ultimate potential
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16?
talking about genetics. :o
Meso_z, that aint Jay. ;)
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Why is this question not asked about Ronnie? Or was he always natural?
I wish good health for both of them, but it won't surprise me if both end up with some kind of health problem.
They both will be fine. Better than being alcoholics/smokers and God knows what else.
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Hope this helps.
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Meso_z, that aint Jay. ;)
I'm pretty sure thats him.
How do you know?
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lol
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thats not swede.
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hope that trophy is worth it....... :-\
I guess he has some "secret formula" that will make everything go back to normal one day :o
what are you, his mother.....shut up fool
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Not Jay.
Anyone remember who it is?
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he is gonna go clean because his WIFE wants kids ;D
hahahahaha it would be interesting to see if the myth of "steroids make you sterile" is true
jay sure hopes not lol, ;) his wife would leave him :-\
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his wife would leave him :-\
No she wouldn't. She would take a look at they're bank balance and she would quickly change her mind...
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he is gonna go clean because his WIFE wants kids ;D
hahahahaha it would be interesting to see if the myth of "steroids make you sterile" is true
jay sure hopes not lol, ;) his wife would leave him :-\
Marcus recently had a child, so its a myth.
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Marcus recently had a child, so its a myth.
really?
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thats not me
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OMG. Small chin ;D
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My feeling about Jay is that he's fairly smart and disciplined which is reflected in his business ventures, family life, etc. I would think he's the type that probably gets regular bloodwork done unlike a lot of these other guys. I seriously doubt he's a recreational drug user or an alcoholic like some other bodybuilders out there. Has he shortened his life? Probably..but there are a lot of other bodybuilders out there who will probably die way ahead of him..of heart attacks, kidney failure from being dumb and reckless.
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My feeling about Jay is that he's fairly smart and disciplined which is reflected in his business ventures, family life, etc. I would think he's the type that probably gets regular bloodwork done unlike a lot of these other guys. I seriously doubt he's a recreational drug user or an alcoholic like some other bodybuilders out there. Has he shortened his life? Probably..but there are a lot of other bodybuilders out there who will probably die way ahead of him..of heart attacks, kidney failure from being dumb and reckless.
cough cough markus ruhl ;D
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My feeling about Jay is that he's fairly smart and disciplined which is reflected in his business ventures, family life, etc. I would think he's the type that probably gets regular bloodwork done unlike a lot of these other guys. I seriously doubt he's a recreational drug user or an alcoholic like some other bodybuilders out there. Has he shortened his life? Probably..but there are a lot of other bodybuilders out there who will probably die way ahead of him..of heart attacks, kidney failure from being dumb and reckless.
Maybe he will live to 80. But, i bet the road there will be rough as opposed to if he stayed clean. Or, even moderately juiced for a coupe years. Jay im sure is pushing the envelope with what his body can handle. I love how everyone "just knows" he is gonna be alright because he is "smarter" than the others. I bet if u showed a few dr's/chemists his cycle/blood work compared to "healthy" people - they would agree with me. He probably has already severely damaged his heart. The human body doesnt like being 290 lbs shredded mass. Jay cant walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Im putting 2 and 2 together here...
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Who's that bb enthusiast?
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what a beautiful little boy
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Maybe he will live to 80. But, i bet the road there will be rough as opposed to if he stayed clean. Or, even moderately juiced for a coupe years. Jay im sure is pushing the envelope with what his body can handle. I love how everyone "just knows" he is gonna be alright because he is "smarter" than the others. I bet if u showed a few dr's/chemists his cycle/blood work compared to "healthy" people - they would agree with me. He probably has already severely damaged his heart. The human body doesnt like being 290 lbs shredded mass. Jay cant walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Im putting 2 and 2 together here...
Hahahaa. . . I bet every time Harley Buckshot hears that an old bodybuilder is fine and healthy he has a mini meltdown.
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Why is this question not asked about Ronnie? Or was he always natural?
I wish good health for both of them, but it won't surprise me if both end up with some kind of health problem.
Ronnie has alot of health problems all ready, just watch his latest dvd he has no problem showing on cam all the prescribed pills he takes
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Maybe he will live to 80. But, i bet the road there will be rough as opposed to if he stayed clean. Or, even moderately juiced for a coupe years. Jay im sure is pushing the envelope with what his body can handle. I love how everyone "just knows" he is gonna be alright because he is "smarter" than the others. I bet if u showed a few dr's/chemists his cycle/blood work compared to "healthy" people - they would agree with me. He probably has already severely damaged his heart. The human body doesnt like being 290 lbs shredded mass. Jay cant walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Im putting 2 and 2 together here...
Anyone that is competing in the MR.O for more than 3 years straight.. is pushing the envelope with what his (their) body can handle.
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Hahahaa. . . I bet every time Harley Buckshot hears that an old bodybuilder is fine and healthy he has a mini meltdown.
"old bodybuilders" of the 70's that we see alive and healthy today arent abusing exotic chemicals that we use today. Your little brain cannot comprehend that and i dont understand why?
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cough cough markus ruhl ;D
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"old bodybuilders" of the 70's that we see alive and healthy today arent abusing exotic chemicals that we use today. Your little brain cannot comprehend that and i dont understand why?
Well I suppose when Dorian, Ronnie, and their ilk start dropping dead you have a case. But right now in their mid 40's they are as healthy as can be. Your argument doesn't hold water.
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dude, HEALTHY as can BE!?!?!?
Jay nor Ronnie can even walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Please explain?
Jay and Ronnie probably both have natural test levels less than that of a 3rd grader. Please explain?
Im just curious as to your thoughts on this and not trying to be a jackass- but im assuming that you "see" them as "huge bodybuilders, look good and healthy" (on the outside) but yet u seem to disregard the effects hormones (not to mention the VOLUME pro's take) can have on the human body. The body doesnt LIKE to be 280 lbs shredded.... its bad. ITs not like they are doing 800g's of test a week/ some winny. They are using thyroid stimulators and insulin.
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dude, HEALTHY as can BE!?!?!?
Jay nor Ronnie can even walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Please explain?
Jay and Ronnie probably both have natural test levels less than that of a 3rd grader. Please explain?
Im just curious as to your thoughts on this and not trying to be a jackass- but im assuming that you "see" them as "huge bodybuilders, look good and healthy" (on the outside) but yet u seem to disregard the effects hormones (not to mention the VOLUME pro's take) can have on the human body. The body doesnt LIKE to be 280 lbs shredded.... its bad. ITs not like they are doing 800g's of test a week/ some winny. They are using thyroid stimulators and insulin.
I agree with a lot you are saying. To me, health is extremely important which is why after a few contests and a few mild cycles in the 80's I decided to just train clean. For me, I could never do cycles of 1000's of milligrams a week of androgens, 10 to 12Ius and up of GH, Insulin, IGF1, thyroid, clen etc. Wouldn't dream of it...but for some people, a goal of being Mr. Olympia is more important than having good health. That is their dream and they take the risks, just like a Race car driver knows he could be killed if he has a bad crash. The problem with bodybuilding, at least financially, is a very bad risk/reward ratio. At least ballplayers are making millions of dollars which makes their juicing more understandable, probably don't go as high on the doses as bodybuilders either.
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who was it that said you have to have the constitution of a horse or something like that, gh15?
jay might live to 90 and some guy who eats healthy and trains natural might drop dead tomorrow
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I do not know if this is revelent but 12 years ago a kid walked in at 180pound 6,2 rake after megadosing for 3 years this kid was huge,Due credit to him he was extremely dedicated he hit the magical 300 pound mark 135kg, he was a monster.
As told by a freind he was not satisfied and he started using growth, before this he looked healthy but 12 month after using growth he started to look unwell unable to do multiple sets he was out of breath,heaving.He saw his doctor and his Heart was nearly 50% larger than normal,he was fucked he dropped back down to i estimate150pounds,3 months later i saw him in the street it was scary he looked awfull we had a short conversation and he said that he was very ill, he did not go in to details.
One of the saddest cases i had ever seen
PS anybody heard of enlarged hearts from the use HGH, i am very interested to know if this has happened in any other cases like this.
If so please PM me.Thanks
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dude, HEALTHY as can BE!?!?!?
Jay nor Ronnie can even walk a flight of stairs without gasping for breath. Please explain?
Jay and Ronnie probably both have natural test levels less than that of a 3rd grader. Please explain?
Im just curious as to your thoughts on this and not trying to be a jackass- but im assuming that you "see" them as "huge bodybuilders, look good and healthy" (on the outside) but yet u seem to disregard the effects hormones (not to mention the VOLUME pro's take) can have on the human body. The body doesnt LIKE to be 280 lbs shredded.... its bad. ITs not like they are doing 800g's of test a week/ some winny. They are using thyroid stimulators and insulin.
No I don't see them in that light, in fact Im 6'0 215 and trying to lose weight myself. So I am definetly not some bigger is always better kind of guy. But seriousy the way you describe them, getting tired going up a flight of steps, that describes half of overweight america. Just because you get winded doing sprints doesnt mean you are about to keel over dead. The way you and many describe them is as if death is sitting on their front steps ready to take them any day!
Sure being 280 shredded is unhealthy, but so is drinking, eating cheeseburgers, watching t.v. all day etc. etc. Being fit is all relative. I am definetly more functionaly fit than these huge bodybuilders and my 5'7 165 lb boxer friend is more fit than me, and Im sure Michael Phelps is more so than him. That doesnt mean any of us our ready to check out anytime soon.
I just get tired of so many people that assume just because you do roids you must be unhealthy. Im sure everyone on here can think of someone they know who is in their 60's who drank, smoke, and never worked out their whole life yet is still perfectly healthy.