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Lost Season 5 8)
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The fifth season begins February 4, 2009.
WARNING: SPOILERS AND POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW!
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Info released at Comic Con in July:
Though Cuse and Lindelof were as elusive as always during the Q&A session, they did offer up a few hints about the coming season.
1. The producers guaranteed that viewers will finally see Danielle Rousseau's story in season 5, despite the fact that the character recently died.
2. They revealed that Kate will see Sawyer again.
3. Vincent the dog will be back.
4. We will find out if Richard Alpert has four or five toes.
5. Desmond will be back.
6. Michael will not be back. He is dead.
7. Jin is not dead.
8. Ana-Lucia will be back. Flashback?
However, the most exciting thing about the new season is that the writers are once again shaking up their storytelling techniques. They plan to tell stories on the island, off the island, in the past and in the future. When the season premiere begins viewers will have no clue when or where they are, which is just how the Lost masterminds like it.
This is the new Dharma clip for the promotion of Lost Season 5 that was shown at the Comic Con.
Note: I will continue to add any tidbits I can until the new season starts. 8)
Please use this thread to discuss the upcoming season.
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Dude you are the man. Thanks for this. :)
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I got the DVD sets and I'm about halfway through season 3. It's a fairly entertaining show, and the characters have been interesting enough to keep me watching.
But....honestly the writers are stupid. No one talks to one another, no one trusts one another, no one communicates important info to one another. No one uses there dam heads, for example:
When Jack is imprisoned by "the others" he passes up chance after chance to negotiate for information.
when Sawyer and Kate leave the island, they pass up a perfect opportunity to find out what the whole dam operation is about from carl.
I mean WTF?
If i thought back more I'm sure i could find lots more stupidities in logical thinking.
BUT, I'll probably see it through and watch season 4 and 5 lol
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Man, I gave up after season 2. Lost is turning into the Gilligan's island of the 21:st century.
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That show is still going?!
I was going to say surely no one watches it, but obviously some still do... :-\
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A lot of people do.
The new promo trailer for season five is now online :) 8)
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But....honestly the writers are stupid. No one talks to one another, no one trusts one another, no one communicates important info to one another. No one uses there dam heads, for example:
When Jack is imprisoned by "the others" he passes up chance after chance to negotiate for information.
They weren't going to give him any, Oz. The deal was his freedom from the island in exchange for operating on Ben's back. No more. No less.
when Sawyer and Kate leave the island, they pass up a perfect opportunity to find out what the whole dam operation is about from carl.
I doubt Carl knew much about the overall purpose. A lot of them (The Others) don't seem to know much...with the exception of Richard Alpert.
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'Lost' moves to Wednesday slot starting Jan. 21
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It'll be Hump Day when "Lost" returns to ABC, starting Jan. 21.
The filmed-in-Hawai'i show will premiere on a Wednesday, returning to its original night after being a Thursday fixture. And expect a three-hour block, from 7 p.m., beginning with an hour of clips, followed by two back-to-back new episodes.
Various Web sites today announced the new playdate.
When it eases into its regular time slot, at 8 p.m. here, it will play opposite a new Fox TV drama, "Lie to Me," which will have a lead-in advantage following "American Idol," always a January-February heavy-hitter.
The return of "Lost" to the Wednesday lineup means that ABC's "Private Practice" will be bumped to another slot, another day.
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can't wait for lost to return its such a great show
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I doubt Carl knew much about the overall purpose. A lot of them (The Others) don't seem to know much...with the exception of Richard Alpert.
Jack had full negotiating power because it was about ben's life. So he could have asked for anything and they would have had no choice but to tell him.
Carl could have have told tons of info even if he didn't know the overall purpose. chances are he did have a good idea.
The shows is entertaining because of the characters, don 't get me wrong. It's just poorly thought out IMO.
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Right now, I'd would say that the only thing I'm worried about is the whole reason, the whole secret behind everything...and having it be somewhat anticlimactic. The whole "what's going on on that island" has been built up so much that I'm worried that it may disappoint.
P.S. I still think Jack is Jacob. :)
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The new LOST promo that aired on Novemer 20th. 8)
Video with Exclusive Footage from the Upcoming Season of 'Lost' Airs November 20, Inside of "Grey's Anatomy"
ABC and Epic Records have partnered to produce a music video combining exclusive scenes from the upcoming fifth season of 'Lost', and live band performance footage from The Fray's new single, "You Found Me", from their sophomore self-titled album. A sneak peek of the video premieres THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20, inside 'Grey's Anatomy' (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET)
The Season Five Posters. It's the same picture, but one is wide and the other is vertical.
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LOST: Season Five Poster 1 (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/SSRxlEvu-5I/AAAAAAAArlo/XQNM_g1gqzw/s1600-h/lost1.jpg)
LOST: Season Five Poster 2 (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/SSRxluKxBfI/AAAAAAAArlw/XBkUpcO-HVk/s1600-h/lost2.jpg)
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I'm changing my tune on this show.
Season 4 was much better. The episode with desmond calling penny on x-mas eve was the best of the series IMO. The writing has gotten a little better in the sense of not insulting the viewer's intelligence.
I am looking forward to season 5.
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Just got Season 4 in the mail. About to start our Lost marathon over holiday, where we watch all episodes beginning with Season 1 in preparation for the new season. Love this show.
Desolate, one of my kids thinks she is the ultimate Lost guru. I read her some of your posts and she now considers herself the second most knowledgeable person about the show. :)
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I've seen every episode and I'd love some answers, but after watching it this long, that's a dumb thing to ask for. I'd think with only 2 seasons left, they'll have to start adding things up rather than creating more and more questions...but that's the specialty of the show.
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Anyone catch the season 5 premiere? any thoughts?
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It was okay. It is now completely a sci-fi show. It kept me entertained, but I've seen better episodes. Sort of like the start of Season 4 (slow).
What did you think?
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It was ok, a little too complicated for me to really enjoy.
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It was okay. It is now completely a sci-fi show. It kept me entertained, but I've seen better episodes. Sort of like the start of Season 4 (slow).
What did you think?
I liked it, It was entertaining. It is getting very Si-Fi. I think Sun has an hidden agenda and wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who sent the lawyers to Kate. I loved how she shifted gears when her and kate were talking. She certainly was manipulating her.
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I liked it, It was entertaining. It is getting very Si-Fi. I think Sun has an hidden agenda and wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who sent the lawyers to Kate. I loved how she shifted gears when her and kate were talking. She certainly was manipulating her.
Yeah. Good points.
I like Sun. She can be ruthless when she needs to be (taking over her father's company, threatening Jin's mom).
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i think ben sent the lawyers, it would give kate more of a reason to go back to the island.
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Yeah....that makes better sense.
What do you think Sun is up to?
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I have no clue what sun is up to, but she could be a wrinkle in the plan. I'm willing to be they drag her there against her will, but she finds that jin is still alive or something.
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i think ben sent the lawyers, it would give kate more of a reason to go back to the island.
damn i'm good. This episode also confirms why i never trust asian women.
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damn i'm good. This episode also confirms why i never trust asian women.
lol, didn't see last nights episode, DVR-ed it, and I'll watch it tonight but it seems like you were right :)
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Sort of a dry episode. Another slow start to the season. I fell asleep with about a minute to go. Have to watch online.
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I'm disappointed so far. Very disjointed. The acting is average. Charlotte died and I didn't care. Had nothing invested in her character.
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I'm disappointed so far. Very disjointed. The acting is average. Charlotte died and I didn't care. Had nothing invested in her character.
These are all set up episodes. I enjoyed this last one. Charlotte (the actor) probably is glad she doesn't have to keep wearing the same clothes over and over again .
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These are all set up episodes. I enjoyed this last one. Charlotte (the actor) probably is glad she doesn't have to keep wearing the same clothes over and over again .
lol. Yeah. Everyone still on the island has been wearing the same clothes since last season. Or least they should be.
It's still entertaining, but my expectations were kinda high.
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Anyone know the deal with Farradays mom? I am liking the season a lot fwiw, but was wondering if anyone has a scoop on her.
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Still not excited about this season. For the third week in a row I fell asleep with about a minute to go. :-\ Probably jet lag this week though. . . .
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The blonde girl who held the gun to Faraday in the episode where the young Charles Whitmore was revealed is Faraday's mother.
I think. ;D
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Much better episode. Locke is a very good actor. Good story. Directors playing mind games again. Now Ben is the bad guy (again) and Whitmore is the good guy. How many times is Ben going to kill Locke? :)
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Much better episode. Locke is a very good actor. Good story. Directors playing mind games again. Now Ben is the bad guy (again) and Whitmore is the good guy. How many times is Ben going to kill Locke? :)
I agree. Excellent episode. But maybe ben isn't the bad guy and if Locke had killed himself, things wouldn't have worked out? Either way, I was thoroughly entertained this week and next week looks even better 8) Btw, Locke is outstanding, great acting all the way around.
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Decent episode this week. Not as good as last week. I don't like the kinder, gentler Sawyer. He's sort of a wus now. :-\ I think they did that so his transition to Juliet's love interest would be more believable. He's not nearly as interesting now.
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Decent episode this week. Not as good as last week. I don't like the kinder, gentler Sawyer. He's sort of a wus now. :-\ I think they did that so his transition to Juliet's love interest would be more believable. He's not nearly as interesting now.
Juliet sees to always be second fiddle getting Kates left overs.
Sawyer, has softened quite a lot since the beginning of the show. His darker side should show more now that Kate is back.
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I agree. Excellent episode. But maybe ben isn't the bad guy and if Locke had killed himself, things wouldn't have worked out? Either way, I was thoroughly entertained this week and next week looks even better 8) Btw, Locke is outstanding, great acting all the way around.
If Locke had commited suicide then everything would have been fucked. Ben killed him because he had to die to get back to the Island.
They shouldnt have killed off Matthew Abadan *sp btw. Great character.
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If Locke had commited suicide then everything would have been fucked. Ben killed him because he had to die to get back to the Island.
They shouldnt have killed off Matthew Abadan *sp btw. Great character.
I agree, which makes me think it might be some sort of heaven, although the producer denied that years ago. At any rate, next week(2 weeks act.) should be good.
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I agree, which makes me think it might be some sort of heaven, although the producer denied that years ago. At any rate, next week(2 weeks act.) should be good.
Yeah they have denied all kinds of so called "theories" like heaven etc. There is still a lot of shit to explain.
I liked the big statue they had up last episode before the final flash. The island is OLD.
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Yeah they have denied all kinds of so called "theories" like heaven etc. There is still a lot of shit to explain.
I liked the big statue they had up last episode before the final flash. The island is OLD.
The statue was cool. They have to get busy wrapping it up though, only about 25ish episodes left.
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The statue was cool. They have to get busy wrapping it up though, only about 25ish episodes left.
It would be pretty cool if they showed an ancient civilzation on the island in one the episodes. The temple is pretty old aswell.
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It would be pretty cool if they showed an ancient civilzation on the island in one the episodes. The temple is pretty old aswell.
I think they are going to be stuck in 1974 for a while. Then maybe go back to the US and have a spinoff like Life on Mars ;D
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I think they are going to be stuck in 1974 for a while. Then maybe go back to the US and have a spinoff like Life on Mars ;D
Whats the deal with the black smoke you think? I read its athe islands security mechanism.
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Whats the deal with the black smoke you think? I read its athe islands security mechanism.
I don't know, just know that Ben controls it.
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For some reason I don't like them stuck in the 70's. And I think the skipping them ahead 3 years on the island was a bit of a cop out. The big thing was that the 6 had to get back to the island because their friends are in danger. What danger? The only danger in store for Dharma is Ben's going to kill them all. And Ben is the one telling everyone they've got to go back.
Great one on the blonde with the gun is Faraday's mom. Makes total sense, since he kept looking at her like he knew her.
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i had a horrible thought that the island is atlantis. if thats the rub, i'll be so fucking pissed.
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i had a horrible thought that the island is atlantis. if thats the rub, i'll be so fucking pissed.
That would be super lame. Right up there with Niner's management
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That would be super lame. Right up there with Niner's management
don't get me started...
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I want Locke to come back. Sick of the Dharma shit.
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I want Locke to come back. Sick of the Dharma shit.
Yep. Another dud of an episode.
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Sayid is a killer. He and Ben are like serial killers on the sauce.
Are young Ben and old Ben in the same time period?
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Sayid is a killer. He and Ben are like serial killers on the sauce.
Are young Ben and old Ben in the same time period?
No, old Ben is with Sun and Jacks dad in 2009.
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No, old Ben is with Sun and Jacks dad in 2009.
How is that when they were all on the same plane?
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How is that when they were all on the same plane?
I don't know. But Jacks dad showed them the pic of the Dharma class of 77.
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I don't know. But Jacks dad showed them the pic of the Dharma class of 77.
Yeah that's right. Forgot about that.
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Yeah that's right. Forgot about that.
I am enjoying this season although it is confusing. I never realized how much I liked Lockes character though. I hate it when he is not in an episode.
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I am enjoying this season although it is confusing. I never realized how much I liked Lockes character though. I hate it when he is not in an episode.
This is the least enjoyable season so far for me. It's really disjointed. I don't like the way they sissy-fied Sawyer. Hurley isn't funny anymore.
I agree about Locke.
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No, old Ben is with Sun and Jacks dad in 2009.
No, it is still 2004. Don't forget that the plane crashed in September of 2004 and they (Oceanic Six) were there a little over 100 days. It's like late December 2004 where Sun, Locke and Ben are now because they are in the correct/proper timeline.
How is that when they were all on the same plane?
The flash pulled Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid off the plane and transported them back to 1977. Don't forget that it is 1977 where Sawyer, Miles, Juliet and Daniel are. They've been living with Dharma for three years (1974-1977).
We don't yet know why the flash didn't pull Sun, Locke's body or Ben off the plane.
Also, you could make the argument that it wouldn't pull Ben off the plane since he wasn't on the initial Oceanic 815 flight from Sydney to Los Angeles.
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The only problem is have with this season is the whole 1974 thing. When Locke put the wheel back on its axis, they should have been transported back to 2004. There hasn't yet been a good explanation about why they ended up in 1974.
But I know there is a Daniel episode coming up that may shed light on this.
Other thoughts:
Ilana is working for Widmore. I don't believe her when she says she was hired by that guy's (golfer) family to find Sayid. How would his family know that Sayid was the killer? They wouldn't. However, Widmore would.
Obviously, the show wants us to figure out who the bad guy is. Is it Widmore or Ben? Personally, I think it is Ben. His murder of Locke convinced me.
I think Ben wants to be the leader of the Others again. Locke is in the way, but he needed Locke to be on the plane to help get them back there. I know that Ben knows that the island has powers (It cured John's paralysis, Rose's cancer, made Jin virile), but I don't believe that he thinks the island and/or Jacob can raise the dead. When he wakes up from the head smack that Sun gave him with that oar, I think he is going to be shocked to see that John is alive.
Highlights of the season thus far:
Hurley telling his mother the truth.
Jack's grandfather was cool.
Desmond naming his son after Charlie.
Desmond confronting Widmore.
The lamppost station under the church.
Daniel seeing his mother as a young woman in 1954.
The bomb.
Locke going right into Richard's camp. This explains why Richard was at John's birth in the hospital and why he came to see him at the orphanage in previous season(s). Great stuff.
Charlotte's death. It was handled well.
Seeing young Danielle. We finally got to see her story about her husband and the other members of her team getting sick. Now we know this happened after a confrontation with Smokey. See him rip that guy's arm off? Too cool.
Locke meeting young Widmore on the island.
Locke and Christian in the cavern. It was Christian telling Locke to say hi to his son Jack that actually started to convince Jack that he may indeed need to go back to the island.
Widmore telling Locke that he was "tricked" off the island by Ben.
Abbadon's death.
Seeing Walt.
Ben strangling Locke. I jumped out of my chair and spilled my Dr. Pepper. :o
Seeing Radzinski. I don't know if you guys remember his name, but he's the guy who shoots himself in the head at the Swan Station. It leaves a big red stain. Desmond asks Kelvin about the stain on the wall. Kelvin tells Des the story; Radzinski went nuts, committed suicide. Also, Radzinski was the guy who drew the florescent map on the wall in the Swan Station that Locke first sees when he is pinned under the door.
Seeing the full four-toed statue even though it was only from behind. It looked Egyptian. 8)
Sayid shooting young Ben.
Questions:
Where are Rose, Bernard and the other crash survivors?
My guess is that they are in 1977, but were captured by the Others and are now living with them.
Who beat up Ben?
Ben calls Jack and tells him that he needs to go pick up Locke’s body at the butcher shop. Why? Because someone beat Ben's ass. Was it Widmore agents? Don’t forget that Ben promised Widmore that he’d find and kill Penny. Did he? Is Penny dead and we just don’t know it yet? Was Ben beaten up by Desmond before managing to escape? ???
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Awesome episode this past week...loved how we finally saw where the smoke monster comes from and what it's powers are..loved how the monster made Ben relive is daughter's death....and we now know that Ben made widmore leave the Island and that the smoke monster is some type of judge jury and executioner
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My predictions came true about Ben being shocked that the island brought Locke back to life as well as his injuries coming from an attempt to kill Penny. 8)
He was planning to kill John again. He still wants to be the leader of the Others. He never wanted to give that up.
Little Charlie saved Penny's life. If the kid didn't come up on deck, Ben would've undoubtedly shot and killed her before Desmond could recover and get to him.
The new crash survivors are flipping out. Ileana, Caesar, etc. It's becoming like Lord of the Flies. Still, I was shocked when Ben blew Caesar away. :o
I'm still concerned about the time travel stuff. What they're saying now is basically that Sayid made Ben evil by shooting him. It's classic tragedy stuff. It's like Anakin trying to save Padme from dying only to end up being the cause of it.
Clearly, Cerebus (smoke monster) saved Ben's life from the gunshot wound. However, it appears that one gets completely changed fundamentally when dealing with it. So while Ben was mad at his father for blaming the kid for his wife's death in childbirth, I don't think Ben was planning a mass execution. He just wanted to leave and live with the others.
Smokey changed Ben and thus brought out the worst in him. It is just like what happened to Danielle's husband and the rest of the guys from the French team. They went down under the Temple to rescue that one guy who had his arm ripped off and they came back changed. That's why Danielle killed her husband. she always said to Sayid that her husband became sick and she had to kill him.
Lost is using the whole Terminator time thing. Skynet sends a Terminator to kill Connor by killing the mother before he's born. But this time displacement equipment allows Reese to go back in time and impregnate the mother with John Connor. If Skynet never sent a Terminator back, John would've never been conceived.
Also, Cyberdyne used the chip in Arnold's skull and studied one of his arms in order to create Skynet. The machine ensured its creation by sending a T-800 Terminator back through time in order to leave the remnants necessary for its creation.
I know. It can give one a headache if they haven't studied theoretical physics and quantum mechanics. ??? :D
But Lost does seem to be going down this road.
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Very good last couple of episodes. It's much better when they don't try and do too much in an episode by focusing on too many characters.
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Very good last couple of episodes. It's much better when they don't try and do too much in an episode by focusing on too many characters.
Yep, I agree, last nights was really good. But this whole 70's thing, is whereing thin. I want to see where this is going.
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Christian implied to Sun and Frank that Locke was the key to bringing Jin and the others into the correct timeline.
I'm thinking season finale is when it could happen. Only four more episodes this season. And they usually do a two hour season finale. That gives us just three weeks. :o
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I am enjoying this season although it is confusing. I never realized how much I liked Lockes character though. I hate it when he is not in an episode.
wow...Danielson finally posting about things other than race and black people.....(tears in my eyes)..that psychiatrist I suggested really helped!
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wow...Danielson finally posting about things other than race and black people.....(tears in my eyes)..that psychiatrist I suggested really helped!
I only do that on the politics board to fuck with a certain mod, and I am done with it tbh. Irl one of my best friends, who I am going out to watch the Wings game and UFC tonight is black, and I have several other black friends as well. Also, out of 20,000 plus posts, maybe 100 of them dealt with race so you are a bit off base ;)
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I only do that on the politics board to fuck with a certain mod, and I am done with it tbh. Irl one of my best friends, who I am going out to watch the Wings game and UFC tonight is black, and I have several other black friends as well. Also, out of 20,000 plus posts, maybe 100 of them dealt with race so you are a bit off base ;)
understood fella! ;)
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Great episode this week. 8)
Daniel really turned out to be a great character.
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Great episode this week. 8)
Daniel really turned out to be a great character.
that's true.....and his mother sending him back to the island knowing what was going to happen to him was hardcore......but how did the 1977 Daniel know about the Losties?
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He saw the group picture that had Hurley, Jack and Kate in it. It was a copy of the same picture that Christian showed to Sun and Frank.
Don't forget, the Dharma Initiative was started by two doctoral candidates at the University of Michigan, a husband and wife couple named Gerald and Karen DeGroot.
I used to think that the DeGroots died on the island when Ben killed all of Dharma. In fact, I thought they were that couple that Jack found in season one. There were these two bodies that Jack found when they found the caves and fresh water. They were wrapped like mummies and one body (skeletons) had a smooth black rock on it and the other had a smooth white rock on it. That was when there was a lot of talk about black and white, yin and yang, etc.
Anyway, it seems now that the DeGroots stayed back in Michigan and ran the project from there.
But to really answer your question, I think that copies of pictures of the group are sent back to University of Michigan so that the DeGroots and people working on Dharma could have pictures/things/knickknacks of the project back home. Daniel must have seen the picture up on a wall of the new members from 1977. He saw Hurley, Jack and Kate. He instantly realized they came back to the island. So he probably made some excuse that he needed to go back and work from the island.
What I love is that he is trying to prevent the infamous incident that necessitated the computer and the implementing of the numbers (4,8,15,16,23 and 42) every 108 minutes to purge some of the energy from the dark matter, what we would call anti-matter. I think this incident is how Dr. Chang loses his arm. Also, I think this is why he sends his wife and baby Miles back home. He wasn't dumping his wife and kid. I think he was trying to protect them. He probably just didn't have time to explain everything to her before he sent her off on the sub. I wouldn't be surprised if this is also when young Charlotte and her mother left.
What was so great about this episode was how many questions it answered. Everything is coming together. :)
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He saw the group picture that had Hurley, Jack and Kate in it. It was a copy of the same picture that Christian showed to Sun and Frank.
oh yeah...thanks!...by the way..how does Alvar Hanso play into all this??....they haven't mentioned him in awhile
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Yeah, he seemed all mysterious because he was this recluse who made his money making military ordinance.
But it's looking like he isn't involved in this. I thought Widmore would be the more meaningless character and that it would be Hanso who had been on the inland, wanted the island, wanted to exploit the island, etc. But it looks like he really is just a nice philanthropist.
Also, I think the show just likes to establish connections for the fans to discover. It's like Sun's father, Mr. Paik. His company, Paik Industries, built all of the hatches on the island. But it doesn't look like he knows about the island or its power. It was just a profitable job and nothing more. But they make his company the builder so that they can have the irony established when his daughter's plane crashes on that very same island with all these mysterious research stations.
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Four good episodes in a row.
I wish they would spill the beans on Richard already. Ben called him "an advisor." He never ages. Who is he?
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Four good episodes in a row.
I wish they would spill the beans on Richard already. Ben called him "an advisor." He never ages. Who is he?
Not sure about Richard, was cool to see Locke throwing his weight around though, great episode.
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Not sure about Richard, was cool to see Locke throwing his weight around though, great episode.
Yeah. He's going to kill Jacob. That was actually funny. Maybe Jacob is like The Wizard of Oz? (Or The Wiz, depending on which version you like.)
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Very good finale. I'm glad they finally put a face on Jacob, because I was starting to become convinced that he didn't exist. Was it just a coincidence that he touched all of the Oceanic 6?
What language was Richard speaking when he was asked the "shadow of the statue" question?
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Very good finale. I'm glad they finally put a face on Jacob, because I was starting to become convinced that he didn't exist. Was it just a coincidence that he touched all of the Oceanic 6? doubt it was a coincidence,
What language was Richard speaking when he was asked the "shadow of the statue" question? Latin
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Thanks.
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That was a damn good episode. No idea where they're going with this though. who cares, great writing.
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That was a damn good episode. No idea where they're going with this though. who cares, great writing.
you guys think Jacob is the good guy or bad guy????
what about the part when Ben is yelling at Jacob and says "what about me"?
and Jacob nonchalantly says "what about you, Ben"?..like he didn't care about Ben and as if Ben were a flea compared to him.
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I think he was bad. He distracted Sayid so Sayid's wife could be killed.
But he's toast now anyway. :)
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Coooool. Didn't know there was a Lost thread in GB. I'm a huge fan and have not missed an episode since the first. BTW, the best podcast of all can be found here: http://www.hawaiiup.com/lost/
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I think he was a good guy, no doubt.
you guys think Jacob is the good guy or bad guy????
what about the part when Ben is yelling at Jacob and says "what about me"?
and Jacob nonchalantly says "what about you, Ben"?..like he didn't care about Ben and as if Ben were a flea compared to him.
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What language was Richard speaking when he was asked the "shadow of the statue" question?
Yep. MB_722 is right. It was Latin and this is the translation:
Ilana asks, "What lies in the shadow of the statue?" Richard replies in Latin, "Ille qui nos omnes servabit", which translated means "He who will protect/save us all".
I think he was bad. He distracted Sayid so Sayid's wife could be killed.
No. He prevented Sayid from getting killed.
Think about it.
Also, I think Richard was on The Black Rock (old slave ship) that we’ve seen in previous seasons and at the beginning of this episode.
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I think the entire premise of the show was finally revealed at the beginning of this episode. 8)
The island is like Eden. It may be Eden.
These two beings are playing a game.
If you listen to what they say, Jacob believes in humanity. He keeps trying to help them grow, evolve. He is the good guy.
The other being doesn't believe in humanity. He believes that no matter how many times they try, humans always end up destroying. He is the bad guy who believes humans are a lost cause.
Jacob states that even though they blow it time and again, they always end up in a slightly better (more evolved) position then when they started. Think of it as climbing rungs on a ladder.
The other being wants to kill Jacob, but it appears that he is forbidden from doing so. He is looking for a loophole.
This is where it gets interesting.
Ilana said that Jacob wasn't in the cabin and hadn't been there for a long time. I believe that the other being tricked The Others into thinking he was Jacob. He used Jack's father Christian as a proxy to speak for him.
Is Jack's dad evil? No, I don't think so. I think Christian believed he was speaking for Jacob. He was a dupe.
What does it matter?
Well, if you look at the big picture, it was Christian who told Locke to move the island. It was Christian who told Locke he had to bring everybody back who left to the island.
I believe this evil being got Locke to do these things so that he could get back to the island. He needed to find that loophole. By saying that everyone who left needed to come back, he created the means to get back. When Locke was really murdered by Ben, he could assume Locke's identity and get The Others/Richard to take him right to Jacob.
Notice that he doesn't kill Jacob. He can't. He's not allowed. So he gets Ben to do it by playing on Ben's anger and bitterness. Jacob tells Ben that it is his choice (i.e. free will). Ben can't see the forest for the trees. He kills Jacob and the evil being wins.
However, all of this might be mute if setting off of the nuke resets things so that the Swan station is never built, the button never needs to be pushed, and the plane never crashes on that day because Desmond didn’t get back to the Swan to push the button in time because of his following/killing of that guy Kelvin.
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I think the entire premise of the show was finally revealed at the beginning of this episode. 8)
The island is like Eden. It may be Eden.
These two beings are playing a game.
If you listen to what they say, Jacob believes in humanity. He keeps trying to help them grow, evolve. He is the good guy.
The other being doesn't believe in humanity. He believes that no matter how many times they try, humans always end up destroying. He is the bad guy who believes humans are a lost cause.
Jacob states that even though they blow it time and again, they always end up in a slightly better (more evolved) position then when they started. Think of it as climbing rungs on a ladder.
The other being wants to kill Jacob, but it appears that he is forbidden from doing so. He is looking for a loophole.
This is where it gets interesting.
Ilana said that Jacob wasn't in the cabin and hadn't been there for a long time. I believe that the other being tricked The Others into thinking he was Jacob. He used Jack's father Christian as a proxy to speak for him.
Is Jack's dad evil? No, I don't think so. I think Christian believed he was speaking for Jacob. He was a dupe.
What does it matter?
Well, if you look at the big picture, it was Christian who told Locke to move the island. It was Christian who told Locke he had to bring everybody back who left to the island.
I believe this evil being got Locke to do these things so that he could get back to the island. He needed to find that loophole. By saying that everyone who left needed to come back, he created the means to get back. When Locke was really murdered by Ben, he could assume Locke's identity and get The Others/Richard to take him right to Jacob.
Notice that he doesn't kill Jacob. He can't. He's not allowed. So he gets Ben to do it by playing on Ben's anger and bitterness. Jacob tells Ben that it is his choice (i.e. free will). Ben can't see the forest for the trees. He kills Jacob and the evil being wins.
However, all of this might be mute if setting off of the nuke resets things so that the Swan station is never built, the button never needs to be pushed, and the plane never crashes on that day because Desmond didn’t get back to the Swan to push the button in time because of his following/killing of that guy Kelvin.
awesome theory..thanks for sharing
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I think the entire premise of the show was finally revealed at the beginning of this episode. 8)
The island is like Eden. It may be Eden.
These two beings are playing a game.
If you listen to what they say, Jacob believes in humanity. He keeps trying to help them grow, evolve. He is the good guy.
The other being doesn't believe in humanity. He believes that no matter how many times they try, humans always end up destroying. He is the bad guy who believes humans are a lost cause.
Jacob states that even though they blow it time and again, they always end up in a slightly better (more evolved) position then when they started. Think of it as climbing rungs on a ladder.
The other being wants to kill Jacob, but it appears that he is forbidden from doing so. He is looking for a loophole.
This is where it gets interesting.
Ilana said that Jacob wasn't in the cabin and hadn't been there for a long time. I believe that the other being tricked The Others into thinking he was Jacob. He used Jack's father Christian as a proxy to speak for him.
Is Jack's dad evil? No, I don't think so. I think Christian believed he was speaking for Jacob. He was a dupe.
What does it matter?
Well, if you look at the big picture, it was Christian who told Locke to move the island. It was Christian who told Locke he had to bring everybody back who left to the island.
I believe this evil being got Locke to do these things so that he could get back to the island. He needed to find that loophole. By saying that everyone who left needed to come back, he created the means to get back. When Locke was really murdered by Ben, he could assume Locke's identity and get The Others/Richard to take him right to Jacob.
Notice that he doesn't kill Jacob. He can't. He's not allowed. So he gets Ben to do it by playing on Ben's anger and bitterness. Jacob tells Ben that it is his choice (i.e. free will). Ben can't see the forest for the trees. He kills Jacob and the evil being wins.
However, all of this might be mute if setting off of the nuke resets things so that the Swan station is never built, the button never needs to be pushed, and the plane never crashes on that day because Desmond didn’t get back to the Swan to push the button in time because of his following/killing of that guy Kelvin.
Interesting theories. There are only 16 episodes left, I hope they can wrap up all the loose ends in such a short time.
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I think the entire premise of the show was finally revealed at the beginning of this episode. 8)
The island is like Eden. It may be Eden.
These two beings are playing a game.
If you listen to what they say, Jacob believes in humanity. He keeps trying to help them grow, evolve. He is the good guy.
The other being doesn't believe in humanity. He believes that no matter how many times they try, humans always end up destroying. He is the bad guy who believes humans are a lost cause.
Jacob states that even though they blow it time and again, they always end up in a slightly better (more evolved) position then when they started. Think of it as climbing rungs on a ladder.
The other being wants to kill Jacob, but it appears that he is forbidden from doing so. He is looking for a loophole.
This is where it gets interesting.
Ilana said that Jacob wasn't in the cabin and hadn't been there for a long time. I believe that the other being tricked The Others into thinking he was Jacob. He used Jack's father Christian as a proxy to speak for him.
Is Jack's dad evil? No, I don't think so. I think Christian believed he was speaking for Jacob. He was a dupe.
What does it matter?
Well, if you look at the big picture, it was Christian who told Locke to move the island. It was Christian who told Locke he had to bring everybody back who left to the island.
I believe this evil being got Locke to do these things so that he could get back to the island. He needed to find that loophole. By saying that everyone who left needed to come back, he created the means to get back. When Locke was really murdered by Ben, he could assume Locke's identity and get The Others/Richard to take him right to Jacob.
Notice that he doesn't kill Jacob. He can't. He's not allowed. So he gets Ben to do it by playing on Ben's anger and bitterness. Jacob tells Ben that it is his choice (i.e. free will). Ben can't see the forest for the trees. He kills Jacob and the evil being wins.
However, all of this might be mute if setting off of the nuke resets things so that the Swan station is never built, the button never needs to be pushed, and the plane never crashes on that day because Desmond didn’t get back to the Swan to push the button in time because of his following/killing of that guy Kelvin.
okay but what exactly was the loophole?
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I think the opportunity…the ‘loophole’ was the plane crash.
The Oceanic 815 plane crash brought people who didn’t want to be on that island. This makes them different from the people on The Black Rock. I believe those people are The Others. Well, their descendants are The Others, except for Richard who I believe may have been the captain of that old slave ship. This also makes the crash survivors different from the members of the Dharma Initiative, a group of people who definitely wanted to be on the island.
The only one of the plane crash survivors who really wanted to stay on the island is John Locke. The game begins. Locke thinks Ben was in the cabin, but it wasn’t him. It was the evil being using Jack’s dead father to speak for him.
Let’s look at how he manipulated Locke.
He told Locke to move the island to protect it. Why? It’s because he didn’t want Charles Widmore or Eloise Hawking to come back there.
Later, he told Locke that he had to bring the Oceanic 6 back to the island. If not, terrible things would happen to everyone left behind and the island would be in danger. Why? It’s because he needed to get Locke’s body.
By pretending to be Locke, he could be around The Others (followers of Jacob) and convince Ben to kill Jacob for him. I don’t think he can inhabit a body unless one is dead. This is why he didn't just inhabit Locke (or anyone else for that matter) while they were alive. But there was only so much he could do with Jack’s father’s body. See, it’s not like Christian could go up to The Others...to Richard and say, “Yo, take me to Jacob.” ;)
The crash was the loophole because the survivors didn’t want to stay there.
Locke was enamored by the island. He wanted to stay. He knew there was something special about it after it cured his paralysis. Locke was used. The evil being played on Locke’s fears by saying that the island was in danger. This is why Locke wanted to bring the Oceanic 6 back. But did you notice that when they came back there wasn’t any danger threatening the island? Nor was there anything threatening those left behind. Did you notice how Sawyer kept saying that everything was fine in Dharmaville until they (Oceanic 6) showed up?
So the Oceanic 6 are told that they all have to go back to save their friends because they (and the island) are in danger. Locke wants to protect the island. The Oceanic 6 want to rescue everyone left behind. But nothing ever happened. ??? At first, I thought it was bad writing. But it wasn’t, it was brilliant.
See, there wasn’t any great tragedy that happened because the Oceanic 6 left the island. The evil being knew that the Oceanic 6 wouldn’t want to come back. So he put it in Locke’s head that he was probably going to have to die to get them to return. Remember, Christian said this to him before Locke reset the wheel. He even said, “That’s why they call it sacrifice.” When they came back, he now had the chance, the opportunity to inhabit Locke’s body. Why is that important?
It’s because Locke was the new leader of The Others. As Locke, he could make Richard take him to Jacob. On the way, he could manipulate Ben to do the deed by playing on Ben’s anger and bitterness toward Jacob.
He’s a puppet master pulling the strings on what he sees as these stupid, pathetic and pointless human beings. Don't forget what he said about them to Jacob at the beginning of the episode. The great irony in all of this is that he got one of these humans…these creatures that Jacob truly believes in to actually murder him.
It rings of the betrayal of Jesus, doesn’t it? Ben Linus in the role of Judas.
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Verrrry interesting. I think you make a great point about the being inhabiting dead bodies. My daughter also mentioned Yemi and how he talked to Mr. Eko on the island.
But what do you make of Eloise Hawking? Why was she trying to get the people back to the island?
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I think that she sent them to help Jacob.
As Jacob was dying he looked up at the evil being and said, “They’re coming.” Who did he mean?
I think he means Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid, Jin, and Miles.
I don’t think the bomb is going to reset the timeline and put everybody back on the plane. What I think it is going to do is bring Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid, Jin, Miles and possibly Juliet back to 2007.
The only negative I can think of is how long have The Others believed that they were following and taking orders from Jacob when in actuality they were being used by this evil being?
Richard seemed to know where Jacob was all along (statue). Ileana claimed that Jacob once resided in the cabin but hadn’t been there in a long time. How long? We don’t know yet. So we don’t know how long this evil guy has been manipulating people on the island while pretending to be Jacob. Even Richard was fooled by this being.
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I think the opportunity…the ‘loophole’ was the plane crash.
The Oceanic 815 plane crash brought people who didn’t want to be on that island. This makes them different from the people on The Black Rock. I believe those people are The Others. Well, their descendants are The Others, except for Richard who I believe may have been the captain of that old slave ship. This also makes the crash survivors different from the members of the Dharma Initiative, a group of people who definitely wanted to be on the island.
The only one of the plane crash survivors who really wanted to stay on the island is John Locke. The game begins. Locke thinks Ben was in the cabin, but it wasn’t him. It was the evil being using Jack’s dead father to speak for him.
Let’s look at how he manipulated Locke.
He told Locke to move the island to protect it. Why? It’s because he didn’t want Charles Widmore or Eloise Hawking to come back there.
Later, he told Locke that he had to bring the Oceanic 6 back to the island. If not, terrible things would happen to everyone left behind and the island would be in danger. Why? It’s because he needed to get Locke’s body.
By pretending to be Locke, he could be around The Others (followers of Jacob) and convince Ben to kill Jacob for him. I don’t think he can inhabit a body unless one is dead. This is why he didn't just inhabit Locke (or anyone else for that matter) while they were alive. But there was only so much he could do with Jack’s father’s body. See, it’s not like Christian could go up to The Others...to Richard and say, “Yo, take me to Jacob.” ;)
The crash was the loophole because the survivors didn’t want to stay there.
Locke was enamored by the island. He wanted to stay. He knew there was something special about it after it cured his paralysis. Locke was used. The evil being played on Locke’s fears by saying that the island was in danger. This is why Locke wanted to bring the Oceanic 6 back. But did you notice that when they came back there wasn’t any danger threatening the island? Nor was there anything threatening those left behind. Did you notice how Sawyer kept saying that everything was fine in Dharmaville until they (Oceanic 6) showed up?
So the Oceanic 6 are told that they all have to go back to save their friends because they (and the island) are in danger. Locke wants to protect the island. The Oceanic 6 want to rescue everyone left behind. But nothing ever happened. ??? At first, I thought it was bad writing. But it wasn’t, it was brilliant.
See, there wasn’t any great tragedy that happened because the Oceanic 6 left the island. The evil being knew that the Oceanic 6 wouldn’t want to come back. So he put it in Locke’s head that he was probably going to have to die to get them to return. Remember, Christian said this to him before Locke reset the wheel. He even said, “That’s why they call it sacrifice.” When they came back, he now had the chance, the opportunity to inhabit Locke’s body. Why is that important?
It’s because Locke was the new leader of The Others. As Locke, he could make Richard take him to Jacob. On the way, he could manipulate Ben to do the deed by playing on Ben’s anger and bitterness toward Jacob.
He’s a puppet master pulling the strings on what he sees as these stupid, pathetic and pointless human beings. Don't forget what he said about them to Jacob at the beginning of the episode. The great irony in all of this is that he got one of these humans…these creatures that Jacob truly believes in to actually murder him.
It rings of the betrayal of Jesus, doesn’t it? Ben Linus in the role of Judas.
I agre with about 75% of what you've said...you deserve accolades for coming up with such a compelling theory....but there is a specific reason why all of the guys on the plane were chosen to come to the island...there was some form of grand manipulation that got them together on that plane....I can't believe that all that Locke did was manipulated by the evil being...if it is simply a good v.s evil thing, then there are a lot of stuff in Lost that is simply filler and makes no sense...the numbers for example..the whole Dharma Inititive thing...they still haven't explained what happened to all the children...and also I have wondered whether Ben is still actually a child himself (emotionally)....his lying and scheming seems to indicate a certain level of immaturity....
also remember when Ben went to the young french woman and took her baby?...He had another kid with him which I felt was really odd.....why would he take a kid with him to take the baby?...
Maybe Locke was manipulated by both the evil being and by Jacob at various times...both realizing that he was the key somehow.....
Jacob visited all of the Oceanic survivors for a reason.....but why did he visit some as children (such as Kate) and some as adults?...(such as John and Jack)
and if Jacob can leave the island to visit others, why can't the evil being? Or maybe the being can leave the island and manipulate others...maybe like Locke's father..who was a really evil guy.....
and they never explained the "Magic Box"..what it is and how it was used... and how they brought Locke's father to the island so that he could be killed by Sawyer...and the funny thing is that Locke couldn't bring himself to kill his father or Jacob but he killed that woman (Naomi?) from the freighter with a knife to the back
lots more to discover....
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Who is the "new Lock"? It would seem like he is perhaps the smoke monster or the guy that Jacob was speaking two at the beginning of the season finally (smokey and this guy may be one in the same). However, if that is the case, how does this other Lock know so many details about the real Locks life? Watch the finally again and pay special attention to the conversations the "new Lock" has with Ben...
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Who is the "new Lock"? It would seem like he is perhaps the smoke monster or the guy that Jacob was speaking two at the beginning of the season finally (smokey and this guy may be one in the same).
It is that guy. However, he is not smokey. Smokey may work for him. Smokey appeared to Ben as his daughter and told him not to harm John Locke. It also told him to do whatever John asked him. So it seems clear that smokey serves this evil being and knew that was really him and not Locke. By the way, Lost fan sites are now calling the evil being Esau. This is because Esau was the name of Jacob's brother in the Bible. It's just a name for now until we get an official name.
However, if that is the case, how does this other Lock know so many details about the real Locks life? Watch the finally again and pay special attention to the conversations the "new Lock" has with Ben...
It seems that when the being takes over a body, he has the dead person's knowledge and memories. This also happened with Jack's father Chrisitian. The evil being Esau knew all about Jack once he took over Christian's body.
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I agree that this evil being can't possibly be the smoke monster.....especially if you remember that Ben was able to summon it when he wanted to and was able to control it somehow
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There is a slim possibility that there are two smokeys.
Do you remember in the first season when Locke saw the smoke monster? Kate saw it heading Locke's way. Locke came out into the clearing and saw it. He looked up at it and it seemed to give off a bright (possibly white) light. We only saw Locke, the monster was not shown. However, it made the same noise/sound we've come to recognize.
Later, Locke denied that he saw anything. But at a later time, he told Jack that he "looked into the eye of this island" and what he saw "was beautiful." Some people think there are two smoke monsters. One that serves Jacob (white) and the one we have all seen that serves Esau.
Why would Locke say that smokey was beautiful? Also, Locke talked to Eko about it. I think Locke described it as beautiful (or something similar) again. Eko said, "That's not what I saw."
There's a possibility that Locke saw Jacob's smokey, not the smokey that we all know. Also, when black smokey tried to drag Locke down underground, Locke didn't seem to say that was what he'd seen earlier in that first season.
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There is a slim possibility that there are two smokeys.
Do you remember in the first season when Locke saw the smoke monster? Kate saw it heading Locke's way. Locke came out into the clearing and saw it. He looked up at it and it seemed to give off a bright (possibly white) light. We only saw Locke, the monster was not shown. However, it made the same noise/sound we've come to recognize.
Later, Locke denied that he saw anything. But at a later time, he told Jack that he "looked into the eye of this island" and what he saw "was beautiful." Some people think there are two smoke monsters. One that serves Jacob (white) and the one we have all seen that serves Esau.
Why would Locke say that smokey was beautiful? Also, Locke talked to Eko about it. I think Locke described it as beautiful (or something similar) again. Eko said, "That's not what I saw."
There's a possibility that Locke saw Jacob's smokey, not the smokey that we all know. Also, when black smokey tried to drag Locke down underground, Locke didn't seem to say that was what he'd seen earlier in that first season.
That seems to be one of the more popular theories...
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I agree with about 75% of what you've said...you deserve accolades for coming up with such a compelling theory....but there is a specific reason why all of the guys on the plane were chosen to come to the island...
I definitely agree. However, I don't think everyone was important. For example, it doesn't seem people like Boone or his step-sister Shannon were important to the overall plan that Jacob appears to have.
I can't believe that all that Locke did was manipulated by the evil being...if it is simply a good vs evil thing
I don't think Locke was being manipulated until after his first meeting with Jacob when he saw him in the chair and Ben didn't. And as we know, it now appears that this wasn't Jacob, but Esau. After that meeting, Locke seems to become hell bent on protecting the island at any cost. Esau tricks Locke into believing the island was in danger if the Oceanic 6 didn't come back. Esau did this knowing that Locke would have to die in order to get them to come back. This would allow him to take Locke's place.
then there are a lot of stuff in Lost that is simply filler and makes no sense...the numbers for example..the whole Dharma Initiative thing...they still haven't explained what happened to all the children...and also I have wondered whether Ben is still actually a child himself (emotionally)....his lying and scheming seems to indicate a certain level of immaturity....
The numbers supposedly refer to the famous Valenzetti Equation. This was revealed in that online game (The Lost Experience) a couple of years back. It is a mathematical formula designed to predict the end of humanity. The numbers in actuality are said to represent human and environmental factors in the equation (given numerical form), though their precise meaning is uncertain.
But you're right. It hasn't been explained properly on the show. It's definitely a major question that needs answering.
I think the DI has been explained. I wouldn't expect any more on that especially if the bomb brings Jack and co. back to 2007; a time long after the DI was murdered by Ben and The Others with the poison gas.
And you're right about the children from the plane. They were kidnapped from the beach and we haven't seen them since. I guess we are supposed to assume they are with The Others, but I didn't see any children as The Others trekked with Locke/Esau to go and see Jacob.
It is possible they are waiting somewhere and that what we have seen isn't everyone from The Others. Don't forget that the stewardess is missing as well. She was the one flirting with Jack on the plane in the very first episode. We saw her only twice since she was taken. Once, she came to see Jack when he was in the polar bear cage. She said “they (The Others) told her to come and watch." Jack got pissed and yelled at her. The second time is when she spoke to Locke at The Others campsite.
Also remember when Ben went to the young french woman and took her baby?...He had another kid with him which I felt was really odd.....why would he take a kid with him to take the baby?
Training. That was Ethan. Ethan is the guy who kidnapped Claire and left Charlie for dead. Charlie eventually killed him with a gun. The amazing thing is that Ethan was not one of The Others. He was the son of Horace, the Dharma leader and his wife Amy.
Don’t forget that with this show, you have to pay very close attention to everything that is said and everything you see. Amy said the baby's name when Juliet came to get the submarine manifest so that Sawyer could sneak Jack, Kate and Hurley into Dharma.
So Ethan was either spared by Ben when he poisoned the rest of Dharma, or Ethan was taken by The Others at some earlier time. We don’t know.
A bit of trivia: The actor who plays Ethan is the first cousin of actor Tom Cruise.
Maybe Locke was manipulated by both the evil being and by Jacob at various times...both realizing that he was the key somehow.....
Very possible.
Jacob visited all of the Oceanic survivors for a reason.....but why did he visit some as children (such as Kate) and some as adults?...(such as John and Jack)
Excellent question. Notice that it was Kate and Sawyer that he visited as children. Everyone else was an adult. Are Kate and Sawyer his new Adam and Eve?
And if Jacob can leave the island to visit others, why can't the evil being? Or maybe the being can leave the island and manipulate others...maybe like Locke's father..who was a really evil guy.....
Good point. I can’t answer that. The best I can figure is that Esau may not be allowed to leave the island. It may be his prison.
And they never explained the "Magic Box"..what it is and how it was used... and how they brought Locke's father to the island so that he could be killed by Sawyer...and the funny thing is that Locke couldn't bring himself to kill his father or Jacob but he killed that woman (Naomi?) from the freighter with a knife to the back
I think the magic box was just a metaphor. It either referred to the room that transports them through time because of the dark matter (anti-matter), or they simply brought him there with the sub, kidnapping him from the hospital after his car crash. I do believe they ran him off the road in the first place, forcing his car into the median. Instead of waking up in the hospital, he woke up on the island. I‘d vote submarine since the exit portal from the island portal is Tunisia, Africa.
Real Locke couldn’t kill his father because there are still feelings there. Locke couldn’t understand why his real Dad would screw him over for a kidney when Locke would willingly give it to him. As an orphan, Locke wished for a real family, a chance to know his Dad. While a part of him hated him, he couldn’t kill him. But he knew his Dad was a bad guy and wouldn’t stop grifting. So he put it into the hands of someone who wanted revenge and would kill him:
Sawyer/James Ford
Also, Real Locke never wanted to kill Jacob. That’s Esau. Real Locke digs Jacob.
As for Naomi, this goes back to Locke’s new mission: Protect the island. Locke believed they were a threat. He was right. The mercenaries were going to kill everybody on the island, bring Ben back to Widmore, and reveal the location of the island to him. This is why Ben moved it. Naomi wasn’t as shady as the mercenaries, but we now know that she was working for Widmore. As a threat to the island, Real Locke did what he felt he had to do.
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so what did you guys think about the ending of LOST now that its over?
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i cried. it was awesome.
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i cried. it was awesome.
seriously?..you being sarcastic? ;)
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seriously?..you being sarcastic? ;)
no :-\
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no :-\
the ending had no correlation to what was happening on the island at all
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Absolutely hated the finale. The whole premise of the show turned out to be pretty dumb. They didn't answer a number of questions.
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Absolutely hated the finale. The whole premise of the show turned out to be pretty dumb. They didn't answer a number of questions.
agreed
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I think it was the worst ending in the history of finale's... absolutely pointless.
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I liked the ending. Not at first, but it later made sense. And I too felt many questions had been left unanswered, but the truth is that all of the big questions were answered and the show's ending was clearly planned from the beginning instead of them making it up as they went along.
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I liked the ending. Not at first, but it later made sense. And I too felt many questions had been left unanswered, but the truth is that all of the big questions were answered and the show's ending was clearly planned from the beginning instead of them making it up as they went along.
agreed...thats why the ending felt tacked on