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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: peroni on September 15, 2008, 09:08:09 AM
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As I was placing an ad for good, independent, qualified trainers this morning for my gym, I ran across this one. I'm sure a few of you will get a kick out of it.
Looking for a new career? Want to interact with people? Interested in fitness?
We are a growing personal training company. Currently, we have three personal training studios and are under construction on a fourth facility. We are looking to hire enthusiastic people who want to enter the field of personal fitness training on a part-time basis. There would be opportunity to grow into full-time hours and management but initially the opening is for a part-time trainer willing to float between our facilities.
No experience is required. We are looking for some of the following qualities:
1. Reliability and honesty
2. A desire to learn about effective exercise methods
3. Good interpersonal skills
4. Being in reasonably good shape (or committed to improving fitness)
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seems like an honest straightforward ad to me.
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Where's the kicker? ???
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Where's the kicker? ???
i guess you have to have an IFBB pro level physique and a PhD in exercise science to work in "peroni's" club. ::)
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Maybe you should learn instead of laughing. Most people don't want a chalk up squat til you puke environment or a trainer who is too intimidating. An excessively muscular build will actually drive most customers away.
Someone with great depth of knowledge isn't required to train 95% of gym goers, and you can pay the guy with no experience a hell of a lot less. The part time positions probably benefits them on insurance costs and labor laws.
If you're in business, your first priority is profit. I don't mean any offence by this post peroni, but unless you're running a niche hardcore gym you might want to consider instituting some of the faggoty business practices these guys use and which are proven to make money.
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Whats the phone number?
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"No experience is required. "
I can't imagine paying for training advice from a brand new personal trainer that has no experience and only on the job training. ACE and AFPA must love these type of gyms that devalue personal trainer certifications.
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As I was placing an ad for good, independent, qualified trainers this morning for my gym, I ran across this one. I'm sure a few of you will get a kick out of it.
Looking for a new career? Want to interact with people? Interested in fitness?
We are a growing personal training company. Currently, we have three personal training studios and are under construction on a fourth facility. We are looking to hire enthusiastic people who want to enter the field of personal fitness training on a part-time basis. There would be opportunity to grow into full-time hours and management but initially the opening is for a part-time trainer willing to float between our facilities.
No experience is required. We are looking for some of the following qualities:
1. Reliability and honesty
2. A desire to learn about effective exercise methods
3. Good interpersonal skills
4. Being in reasonably good shape (or committed to improving fitness)
On the job training with no experiance.........good move ::)
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On the job training with no experiance.........
Hi Sarah Palin.
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DOH!
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On the job training with no experiance.........good move ::)
were you the guy who posted a pic/vid of a girl squatting bar on her neck and kness 6" infront of toes?
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"No experience is required. "
I can't imagine paying for training advice from a brand new personal trainer that has no experience and only on the job training. ACE and AFPA must love these type of gyms that devalue personal trainer certifications.
There we go. Somebody finally gets it!!
My post wasn't meant to discuss my hiring practices, it was simply a amusing tid bit about personal trainers needed w/ no exp necessary and if you're not in somewhat reasonable shape, you'll have to make a commitment to strive towards that. No, you don't need a phd and an olympia physique to be a trainer in my gym, but experience is invaluable. There are pro athletes that train with me and workout at my gym, so if a intern so to speak misguided them or caused an injury, it would be detrimental to my business. Because of trainers w/ out field experience and/or education, most trainers get a bum rap. My gym is the place you go when you know better than to get a corporate gym trainer. It's not snotty or uppidy. It's simply wanting to be the best at what you do. I see nothing wrong with holding yourself to the same standards that you'd hope someone else would if they were a potential trainer of yours.
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why do i get the feeling that "peroni" wears a lot of Under Armor? ::)
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Epic thread backfire....
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There we go. Somebody finally gets it!!
My post wasn't meant to discuss my hiring practices, it was simply a amusing tid bit about personal trainers needed w/ no exp necessary and if you're not in somewhat reasonable shape, you'll have to make a commitment to strive towards that. No, you don't need a phd and an olympia physique to be a trainer in my gym, but experience is invaluable. There are pro athletes that train with me and workout at my gym, so if a intern so to speak misguided them or caused an injury, it would be detrimental to my business. Because of trainers w/ out field experience and/or education, most trainers get a bum rap. My gym is the place you go when you know better than to get a corporate gym trainer. It's not snotty or uppidy. It's simply wanting to be the best at what you do. I see nothing wrong with holding yourself to the same standards that you'd hope someone else would if they were a potential trainer of yours.
I applaud your commitment to quality and wish more businesses were run that way. As you've no doubt observed however, a McDonald's makes a lot more money than most quality restaurants. Your clientele sound like connoisseurs, and I'm glad there's enough around for you to make a buck, but the McD's of the gym world will continue to thrive. I agree its absurd, but that's the way of the world.
Consider this thought experiment: If you opened a second gym and ran it the way chain "fitness centers" are run, would you make more money or less money than you currently make from your gym?
Not bustin' your chops man, just saying the reason these damn fitness centers are popping up everywhere is because they are consistently profitable in spite of their modus operandi.
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were you the guy who posted a pic/vid of a girl squatting bar on her neck and kness 6" infront of toes?
You mean the one that could athletically out perform any man or women on this site box squatting 225 for 10? Yeah, that was me!
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athletically out perform. dont be a dork. Tons in my gym can box squat 225 for 10.
Yes she is a girl and strong. Just her form is shit
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athletically out perform. dont be a dork. Tons in my gym can box squat 225 for 10.
Yes she is a girl and strong. Just her form is shit
Ok dude whatever....her form is where I want it to be. She's 9mos out of ACL reconstruction.
I'm sure there are, but she's a 20 year old 118lb softball player.
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I gave her props
Should be working on flexability and form if she is limites by her ACL...one bad rep and it could all fuck up again for her.
Seriously
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LMOA HAHAHAHA......big muscle meathead bodybuilders make the absolute worst personal trainers. Their entire mindset stems from drugs. I.e. what works for them will not work for 99% of the population. But it's a great marketing scheme for gyms. Take the biggest baddest steroid user or anorexic/clen addicted fitness chick and tell everyone that signs up if you listen to them and buy these supplements you can look like them! LOL What a scam! And again most athletes don't have the mindset to be great personal trainers either. They are either genetically gifted or naturally talented. They all have coaches as well. I was asking a top ranked decathalon guy about his diet and his answers were VERY generic......i.e. high protein...high carbs.....just don't over do it. lol. There are very respectable exercise science/nutritional gurus out there (Lyle McDonald) and they sure as fuck aren't bodybuilders.
Bob C is a perfect example. He's all drugs and genetics. You ask him about diet and he'd probably ramble on with shit found in the MuscleMags. He even posted his own diet and it was nowhere near what is necessary to maintain 250lbs of muscle at his height. LOL.
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No experience is required. We are looking for some of the following qualities:
1. Reliability and honesty
2. A desire to learn about effective exercise methods
3. Good interpersonal skills
4. Being in reasonably good shape (or committed to improving fitness)
5. High Getbig post count.
Fixed.
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Most personal trainers and "bodybuilders" couldn't read a fucking medical study if their life depended on it.
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You mean the one that could athletically out perform any man or women on this site box squatting 225 for 10? Yeah, that was me!
LOL classic Getbig post right there! Box squatting 225 for 10 is supposed to be amazing? Oh but wait now she's 118 lbs and 20 years old. What's next she's a below the knee amputee? I get sick of all these stupid chicks in the gym trying do worthless things like box squats. Man the fuck up and squat regularly biotches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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how can they say no experience needed when it requires a certification to be a trainer?! they never state that, do they?! ;D
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to be fair box squats are tougher and work the quads more.
where is the pic of this little person squatting?
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to be fair box squats are tougher and work the quads more.
where is the pic of this little person squatting?
box squats actually work the quads LESS and the hamstrings, glutes and lower back more.
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the way we were doing them was sitting down and leaning back with a pause on the box. Then pressing urself up from a dead stop. We done this below parallel
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...Not bustin' your chops man, just saying the reason these damn fitness centers are popping up everywhere is because they are consistently profitable in spite of their modus operandi...
Are they profitable? Seems to me that there have been several chains and fitness centers that have gone under over the past 30 years of the fitness craze. And many of them have been taken to task, both by FTC, BBB and through court actions, for their less than ethical membership scams. ("Join now for a lifetime price of $20 per month!" 12 months later you find out that the gym contract's small print indicates that offer can be changed at any time by the gym when the gym ups their monthly rates to $30 per month for "lifetime members.")
Using scams like promoting "Personal Trainers" who can be dangerous and possibly injure naive members through bad training advice isn't a good way to run a business. Even in our capitalist society, money isn't everything. You have to think about your customers too and give them quality for their money.
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Here is the type of exercise promoted by personal trainers with no experience.
(http://www.ironorrfitness.com/images/Adam-Ball-Squat-Down.jpg)
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why do i get the feeling that "peroni" wears a lot of Under Armor? ::)
I don't own even 1 of them or anything like it. Sorry to disappoint
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I applaud your commitment to quality and wish more businesses were run that way. As you've no doubt observed however, a McDonald's makes a lot more money than most quality restaurants. Your clientele sound like connoisseurs, and I'm glad there's enough around for you to make a buck, but the McD's of the gym world will continue to thrive. I agree its absurd, but that's the way of the world.
Consider this thought experiment: If you opened a second gym and ran it the way chain "fitness centers" are run, would you make more money or less money than you currently make from your gym?
Not bustin' your chops man, just saying the reason these damn fitness centers are popping up everywhere is because they are consistently profitable in spite of their modus operandi.
You're absolutely right. In my case, I make enough as a trainer so that it doesn't put pressure on me as a gym owner and I stick to my convictions. You're right though, if I relaxed them a bit I'd have a lot more money. It just is something I won't do.
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Most personal trainers and "bodybuilders" couldn't read a fucking medical study if their life depended on it.
Exactly my point. That's why I choose to be very picky. Any lack of results, injuries, or just plain screw ups, are a direct reflection of my business.
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Are they profitable? Seems to me that there have been several chains and fitness centers that have gone under over the past 30 years of the fitness craze. And many of them have been taken to task, both by FTC, BBB and through court actions, for their less than ethical membership scams. ("Join now for a lifetime price of $20 per month!" 12 months later you find out that the gym contract's small print indicates that offer can be changed at any time by the gym when the gym ups their monthly rates to $30 per month for "lifetime members.")
Using scams like promoting "Personal Trainers" who can be dangerous and possibly injure naive members through bad training advice isn't a good way to run a business. Even in our capitalist society, money isn't everything. You have to think about your customers too and give them quality for their money.
Again, another guy who gets it.
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Are they profitable? Seems to me that there have been several chains and fitness centers that have gone under over the past 30 years of the fitness craze. And many of them have been taken to task, both by FTC, BBB and through court actions, for their less than ethical membership scams. ("Join now for a lifetime price of $20 per month!" 12 months later you find out that the gym contract's small print indicates that offer can be changed at any time by the gym when the gym ups their monthly rates to $30 per month for "lifetime members.")
Using scams like promoting "Personal Trainers" who can be dangerous and possibly injure naive members through bad training advice isn't a good way to run a business. Even in our capitalist society, money isn't everything. You have to think about your customers too and give them quality for their money.
Ok ya got me. I don't know if they're profitable or not, but in Western Australia they keep popping up everywhere. Maybe they just market hard and let the franchisee eat it if the wheels fall off.
It's a lamentable fact of modern business that most consumers will choose a cheap shoddy product over a more expensive quality one. I don't congratulate them for capitalising on it, but that's probably the chain gym's rationale.
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Ok ya got me. I don't know if they're profitable or not, but in Western Australia they keep popping up everywhere. Maybe they just market hard and let the franchisee eat it if the wheels fall off.
It's a lamentable fact of modern business that most consumers will choose a cheap shoddy product over a more expensive quality one. I don't congratulate them for capitalising on it, but that's probably the chain gym's rationale.
Chain gyms do the initiation fees, processing, cancellation fees, sales pitches, contracts,etc etc. My gym does none of that. It's $28/month +tax and that's it. Personal Training is $60/hr. There are no package deals, etc etc. It's not about #'s with me, it's about doing it how I feel is the right way to do it. Turns out, a lot of people like the honest no nonsense approach and my gym has done quite well. I'm not getting rich but that's not my objective. I wanted a clean, positive energy gym in which to train my clients so I opened my own place. It's not a training studio, it's a gym but it's a lot different in most respects to a lot of gyms. I'm proud of that.