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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Milos_Sarcev on September 20, 2008, 08:21:06 PM
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1) Highest placing International /or second Overall/ IFBB professional at the 2007 Mr. Olympia ( 13th place finisher Hidetada Yamagishi was second highest Mr. Olympia 2007 Under 202 lbs competitor, behind Dave Henry from US - who finished 10th...both beating numerous great IFBB professionals along the way - including multiple IFBB pro champions...)
2) Highest placing Under 202 lbs professional competitor at 2008 Atlantic City Pro Invitational last weekend (placing 8th Overall - repeating what winner of Under 202 lbs 2008 Europa IFBB PRO Supershow champion Flex Lewis did weeks ago - placing 8th Overall after receiving 1st place award for his "Under 202 victory")
3) Entered record number of IFBB pro shows in 2006/2007 and signed up to do the same in 2008...
While waiting for his US visa to be approved Hide signed to enter Under 202 lbs shows (all held in US) - which he had to pass due to "Immigration delay"...
4) As soon as his VISA was approved he came to US and entered the only remaining show (Atlantic City)...and managed to beat every Under 202 competitor out of 54 that have entered the show - BUT...Atlantic City contrary to previous 5 shows DIDN'T HAVE 202 class (WHY EXACTLY?)...
So WHAT DO WE HAVE:
We have a top Olympia competitor (top 2 under 202 lbs Mr. Olympia 2007 competitor - considered 2nd best IFBB professional competitor for the year 2007 - IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!) who WAS NOT ABLE to Enter the US on time - and therefore MISSED opportunity to Enter any of Under 202 lbs Olympia Showdown qualifying shows...EVEN THOUGH he desperately tried...
Simply - he was denied a visa - just long enough to miss all the qualifying shows...
ONE WEEK LATER - he managed to come to US and challenge the field of ALL IFBB professionals willing to participate at the Atlantic City show - and he easily (not at his best I might add) BEAT every under 202 lbs IFBB professional competing that day (again - it was huge field - 54 competitors from all around the world)...
He also checked at the IFBB website THE RULES about the upcoming 2008 Olympia weekend Under 202 lbs Showdown competition - and found that PROMOTER of the show is able to SPECIALLY INVITE - ONE more competitor - and he immediately made a call....
He is still waiting for the invitation...with rumors that - HE WILL NOT BE INVITED as IFBB officials believe that would NOT BE FAIR to all other IFBB professionals who had to enter qualifying shows???
Supposedly - every competitor that didn't make the cut - would have something to say...?
Now - my answer to IFBB officials and IFBB pro athlete rep was...and still is:
Every other IFBB competitor HAD a chance to enter those shows - except Hide.
Hide is the ONLY ONE without that FAIR CHANCE and for that reason he believes he should be considered for "special invitation" athlete...
It is easy to see why he is THE MOST QUALIFIED and THE MOST DESERVING IFBB pro athlete to receive the invitation...
Besides - even in Mr. Olympia competition there is the rule that SECOND PLACING competitor (first runner up) should be automatically qualified to enter Mr. Olympia competition FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS...
Second placing Under 202 lbs 2007 Mr. Olympia finisher - Mr. Hidetada Yamagishi SHOULD BE QUALIFIED by the virtue of his 2007 Mr. Olympia placing ALONE - without mentioning ANYTHING ELSE...but FOR SOME REASON (?!?!?!?!?!) he would be denied a chance to compete?
And Mr. Olympia SHOULD BE COMPETITION FOR THE BEST BODYBUILDERS IN THE WORLD...yet promoter of the show DOESN'T seem to realize it???
Bob, athletes rep - where are you when Japanese athlete needs you?
Oh, maybe you are at the show - right about now...seeing Hide on the stage...?
Well, than I hope we still have a chance...
So, what do you guys think?
PS: here is Hide - about 3 hours ago...
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the orientals should be represented at the '08 Olympia
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HONESTLY - this guy sucks for bodybuilding. He is just a waste of chicken breast and draino.
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MILOS QUIT BEING SUBJECTIVE AND BE OBJECTIVE!
You know he does not have what it takes structurally.
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brutal 16" arms
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I wonder if Hide was muleing drugs for a "third party" when he got busted at LAX? :D
Maybe governor Arnold?
After all he got a visa in a hurry ;)?
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milos 1st u post shitty joel stubbs pics-now u post these shitty things
please stop loading the server with crap and slowing it down even more
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brutal 16" arms
brutal 3 pickles...2 inches each...and IQ to match ;)
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I think Luke Wood should get a special invite from his 4.5 week out pics alone.
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Who knows? That's the speculation on the street anyway. ;)
The streets of Texas are flooded with speculation about events in CA?
I figured Texans would be trying to get FEMA to deliver the trailers already.
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He had a rough start to the year, but in terms of worldwide fan attention, I say why not let the guy enter?
Yes, he got in trouble, but so did Vic martinez, and he still has millions of fans in the USA who would prefer to see him in the Olympia.
Japan has 128 million citizens. That's an awesome fan base. See the way the NBA exploded worldwide with players like China's yao Ming? Why not give bodybuilding that worldwide exposure by letting a Japanese bodybuilder take the stage for the first time at the O?
I understand politics, etc. But what about growing the fan base of the sport? There are millions of young japanese kids who mess around with weights - - but Hideo is the first high profile Japanese bodyubilder on the IFBB stage they can see in magazines and look up to, just like we looked up to Ronnie and Dorian, Haney and Arnold when we were kids.
It's a good business move. He is a legit threat at 202, and he represents a country of 128 million who have a lot of money and are very tech-saavy... that's a lot of kids who could be tuning into the webcast and wondering what supplements they need to gain some size and look better.
I don't get a vote, but if I did, I've vote for worldwide growth of the sport - Invite Hide.
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I think Luke Wood should get a special invite from his 4.5 week out pics alone.
Saw him training the other day, he already looks better, healthier.
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milos 1st u post shitty joel stubbs pics-now u post these shitty things
please stop loading the server with crap and slowing it down even more
You mean - soon to be Mr. Olympia Joel Stubbs?
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This top pic looks awesome - he looks like that chinese dude that wore the rice picking hat and had white eyes from mortal combat.
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You mean - soon to be Mr. Olympia Joel Stubbs?
hello milos i have ? for u
in 2005 i fly to olympia from east coast and the pilot was a huge tall muscluar man-same ethincity as mr stubbs
i have always thought it was him...can u ask him if it were him?
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He actually looked better last year.
On a side note.......Why is MetRx now the official gym of Flex Magazine?? I spoke to Chris Lund last week and while he didn't go into detail, he did say he would never step foot in Koloseum again. I was also told by a former employee of yours that most of the pros now won't go there because they said there was just too much drama and they had a hard time concentrating when getting ready for shows.
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He actually looked better last year.
On a side note.......Why is MetRx now the official gym of Flex Magazine?? I spoke to Chris Lund last week and while he didn't go into detail, he did say he would never step foot in Koloseum again. I was also told by a former employee of yours that most of the pros now won't go there because they said there was just too much drama and they had a hard time concentrating when getting ready for shows.
Who was the former employee ???
You can PM me the answer if you're embarrassed to say it here.
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He actually looked better last year.
On a side note.......Why is MetRx now the official gym of Flex Magazine?? I spoke to Chris Lund last week and while he didn't go into detail, he did say he would never step foot in Koloseum again. I was also told by a former employee of yours that most of the pros now won't go there because they said there was just too much drama and they had a hard time concentrating when getting ready for shows.
heh big shcoker there...itss well known how much drama is in that place-doeant help when milos is there either...we just gotta deal w/ it an dpray for better times
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He should ge the invite to the under 202 show down. He can't beat David Henry or Flex Lewis.
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heh big shcoker there...itss well known how much drama is in that place-doeant help when milos is there either...we just gotta deal w/ it an dpray for better times
Strange, I never see all this drama you guys are talking about.
Where is it?
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Strange, I never see all this drama you guys are talking about.
Where is it?
that cuz u a smart man who dont get involved w/ it
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You mean - soon to be Mr. Olympia Joel Stubbs?
stubbs upper body has nothing to do with his legs, hams and calves ???
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the orientals should be represented at the '08 Olympia
RUGs should not respresent 08 Olympia asians ok, but not RUGs
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MILOS MILOS MILOS OH MILOS
Hide is not in the SAME LEAGUE as the top 3 202 guys such as - Dave Henry- Flex Lewis- Kevin English them THREE will wipe the floor with HIDE!
COME ON- THERE ONLY THREE LOTS OF PRIZE MONEY SO WHY BOTHER
DAVE HENRY WILL OUT MUSCLE HIM- BANG BACK SHOOT
KEVIN ENGLISH WILL OUT MUSCLE HIM- UGLY SYNTHOL BODY BUT STILL
FLEX LEWIS MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A FAT MAN
Now your gonna piss people off who have worked hard to qualify like ROC SHABAZ- RAY ARDE- CHARLES DIXON- ETC.....
The guy committed a crime he payed for it now WHY THE FUCK should he get a special pass to compete?
Oh because MILOS THE GREAT SAYS SO, with a million valid reasons.....
Listen i have a million Valid reasons why HIDE SHOULD RUN TO Hanny we all know he wants to, HES SPOKEN TO HIM!
Come on look at him hes 4wks out he has fat on his back, we all know your methods LUKE WOOD of drying people out or is it DRYING PEOPLE UP! :-[
WHY DOES YOU HAVE TO DO ALL HIS TALKING.............? He can speak English i spoke to him at the Olympia booth last year, hes a very nice guy he was there with a million other Japanese FANS taking photos of him bending over sneezing it was funny to watch we sat at the coffee shop, ANYWAYS does he know you do all this talking the only person your making look a fool.
HIDE MAN UP AND GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE!
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1) Highest placing International /or second Overall/ IFBB professional at the 2007 Mr. Olympia ( 13th place finisher Hidetada Yamagishi was second highest Mr. Olympia 2007 Under 202 lbs competitor, behind Dave Henry from US - who finished 10th...both beating numerous great IFBB professionals along the way - including multiple IFBB pro champions...)
Completely irrelevant to the discussion...last year was last year, and has no bearing unles you are in the top 6 of the Olympia
2) Highest placing Under 202 lbs professional competitor at 2008 Atlantic City Pro Invitational last weekend (placing 8th Overall - repeating what winner of Under 202 lbs 2008 Europa IFBB PRO Supershow champion Flex Lewis did weeks ago - placing 8th Overall after receiving 1st place award for his "Under 202 victory")
There was no 202 class at the AC Pro, so there was no "repeat" of anything
3) Entered record number of IFBB pro shows in 2006/2007 and signed up to do the same in 2008...
While waiting for his US visa to be approved Hide signed to enter Under 202 lbs shows (all held in US) - which he had to pass due to "Immigration delay"...
Again...irelevant to the situation
4) As soon as his VISA was approved he came to US and entered the only remaining show (Atlantic City)...and managed to beat every Under 202 competitor out of 54 that have entered the show - BUT...Atlantic City contrary to previous 5 shows DIDN'T HAVE 202 class (WHY EXACTLY?)...
Because the promoter chose not to have one, and decided to have a Masters show....the IFBB doesn't dictate what the promoters chose to pay for.
So WHAT DO WE HAVE:
We have a top Olympia competitor (top 2 under 202 lbs Mr. Olympia 2007 competitor - considered 2nd best IFBB professional competitor for the year 2007 - IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!) who WAS NOT ABLE to Enter the US on time - and therefore MISSED opportunity to Enter any of Under 202 lbs Olympia Showdown qualifying shows...EVEN THOUGH he desperately tried...
Simply - he was denied a visa - just long enough to miss all the qualifying shows...
Which is a problem he had with the courts, not the IFBB. The IFBB didn't revoke his VISA, nor did they take any stance or action stemming from his issues with the law...he was never suspended or fined.
ONE WEEK LATER - he managed to come to US and challenge the field of ALL IFBB professionals willing to participate at the Atlantic City show - and he easily (not at his best I might add) BEAT every under 202 lbs IFBB professional competing that day (again - it was huge field - 54 competitors from all around the world)...
Again irrelevant as there WAS NO 202 SHOW
He also checked at the IFBB website THE RULES about the upcoming 2008 Olympia weekend Under 202 lbs Showdown competition - and found that PROMOTER of the show is able to SPECIALLY INVITE - ONE more competitor - and he immediately made a call....
He is still waiting for the invitation...with rumors that - HE WILL NOT BE INVITED as IFBB officials believe that would NOT BE FAIR to all other IFBB professionals who had to enter qualifying shows???
Not a rumor...there will be no invitation as there is no reason he would receive one. Bottom line is, the onus is up to the athlete to show up and compete.
Supposedly - every competitor that didn't make the cut - would have something to say...?
Now - my answer to IFBB officials and IFBB pro athlete rep was...and still is:
Every other IFBB competitor HAD a chance to enter those shows - except Hide.
Hide is the ONLY ONE without that FAIR CHANCE and for that reason he believes he should be considered for "special invitation" athlete...
Hide had a chance as well...all he had to do was get his legal affairs in order....nothing to do with the federation. ANY competitor could use a similiar excuse...my flight was canceled, my wife said no, I ran out of gas on the way to the show....you either show up, or you dont.
It is easy to see why he is THE MOST QUALIFIED and THE MOST DESERVING IFBB pro athlete to receive the invitation...
Besides - even in Mr. Olympia competition there is the rule that SECOND PLACING competitor (first runner up) should be automatically qualified to enter Mr. Olympia competition FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS...
The winner of the Mr. Olympia isn't qualified for two years much less the runner up...not sure where that rule is. Top 6 automatically requalify
Second placing Under 202 lbs 2007 Mr. Olympia finisher - Mr. Hidetada Yamagishi SHOULD BE QUALIFIED by the virtue of his 2007 Mr. Olympia placing ALONE - without mentioning ANYTHING ELSE...but FOR SOME REASON (?!?!?!?!?!) he would be denied a chance to compete?
Not "for SOME reason"...for a very good reason. HE FAILED TO PLACE IN THE TOP 5 OF ANY 202 SHOW THIS YEAR...PERIOD. THERE WAS NO 202 OLYMPIA LAST YEAR
And Mr. Olympia SHOULD BE COMPETITION FOR THE BEST BODYBUILDERS IN THE WORLD...yet promoter of the show DOESN'T seem to realize it???
He does realize that, and has a system of qualifying throught the year by placing in a top 3, or top 5 at the IM/ ASC...or top 5 for the 202 shows...NONE of which Hide did.
Bob, athletes rep - where are you when Japanese athlete needs you?
Right here, preserving the integrity of the qualifying system for ALL the athletes...there is no merit to this request, or grounds for consideration.
Oh, maybe you are at the show - right about now...seeing Hide on the stage...?
Well, than I hope we still have a chance...
Sorry bro....this would wouldn't be fair to the other athletes and would undermine the entire due process of qualifying, much as I would like to see Hide back on the Olympia stage, he needs to do it the old fashioned way.....and earn it like EVERY OTHER athlete managed to do.
So, what do you guys think?
PS: here is Hide - about 3 hours ago...
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Good Calves, Small Delts, Small Arms, Small Back.
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the orientals should be represented at the '08 Olympia
I disagree.
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last week I had to drive down to the OC airport to pick up a friend who for some reason thought that was the airport closest to my house in Hollywood. The plane arrived at 6 pm, so to avoid traffic I thought I'd head down early and work out at Gold's Fullerton. I get there only to find out that it's no longer a Gold's. So I had to take my travel card to Huntington Beach.
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Hide doesn't belong on a Mr Olympia stage, regardless of whatever class he is in, he just doesn't look that good.
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Boring physique...nothing special. No extreme bodyparts.....
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He looked better before.
Madman, do something.
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You mean - soon to be Mr. Olympia Joel Stubbs?
Real funny
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I say that every Asian porno is telling us that Hide is stuffing his shorts Kevin L/Craig T style...
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He actually looked better last year.
On a side note.......Why is MetRx now the official gym of Flex Magazine?? I spoke to Chris Lund last week and while he didn't go into detail, he did say he would never step foot in Koloseum again. I was also told by a former employee of yours that most of the pros now won't go there because they said there was just too much drama and they had a hard time concentrating when getting ready for shows.
Why is an ex middle weight with a 40 inch inslin gut talking to anyone in the bodybuilding industry? Don't you have actors to train?
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You mean - soon to be Mr. Olympia Joel Stubbs?
Milo's we all love you here, but honestly what do you think is a bigger travesty, Stubb's legs or Coach's Inslin Gut...
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He had a rough start to the year, but in terms of worldwide fan attention, I say why not let the guy enter?
Yes, he got in trouble, but so did Vic martinez, and he still has millions of fans in the USA who would prefer to see him in the Olympia.
Japan has 128 million citizens. That's an awesome fan base. See the way the NBA exploded worldwide with players like China's yao Ming? Why not give bodybuilding that worldwide exposure by letting a Japanese bodybuilder take the stage for the first time at the O?
I understand politics, etc. But what about growing the fan base of the sport? There are millions of young japanese kids who mess around with weights - - but Hideo is the first high profile Japanese bodyubilder on the IFBB stage they can see in magazines and look up to, just like we looked up to Ronnie and Dorian, Haney and Arnold when we were kids.
It's a good business move. He is a legit threat at 202, and he represents a country of 128 million who have a lot of money and are very tech-saavy... that's a lot of kids who could be tuning into the webcast and wondering what supplements they need to gain some size and look better.
I don't get a vote, but if I did, I've vote for worldwide growth of the sport - Invite Hide.
A solid argument for nation-wide criminal boosterism. :)
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HONESTLY - this guy sucks for bodybuilding. He is just a waste of chicken breast and draino.
LMFAO.
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why you gimmick
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Milos,you should make the case for this guy ,he looks 10 x better than Yamagishi.
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They usually look better BEFORE somebody (first name starts with an M.) gives them too much insulin.
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He looked better before.
Madman, do something.
When he lived in US and trained in Koloseum?
I have him here only for 10 days and he as almost back to his usual self.
Give him another week and he'll be perfect (by the Showdown show)...
BTW - he said in Japan he can never train like here (using giant sets)...wonder why?
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He actually looked better last year.
On a side note.......Why is MetRx now the official gym of Flex Magazine?? I spoke to Chris Lund last week and while he didn't go into detail, he did say he would never step foot in Koloseum again. I was also told by a former employee of yours that most of the pros now won't go there because they said there was just too much drama and they had a hard time concentrating when getting ready for shows.
Last year - when I trained him?
Rumor is that MetRx gym is about to close and few members already approached me with "great secret nobody suppose to know - or talk about" /something I've herd from dozens of people already/ asked me if I would consider letting MetRx gym members in my gym for discounted membership rates...
My answer was: membership is FREE if they try my GIANT SETS...or convince "The Coach or The insulin gut without ever using insulin?" to find some courage to show up in Koloseum and show me what the true athlete is all about ;
Other than that - YES - it is true that IFBB pro athletes are better off NOT being associated with me - in any shape or form...IF they want to place decent in any of the upcoming IFBB pro shows...
NO - I don't think for a second that Chris Lund would say such a thing as we are friends for more than 2 decades...I understand the reason WHY he had to leave...but I also hope he understand WHY I didn't want to just simply APOLOGIZE to someone and with that - end all of my problems, my misery, my IFBB suspension...and save my 15-year [old/long] lasting Weider endorsement contract (my livelihood at the time)...
And as FAITH sometimes works wonders my dear Coach...(sorry, I meant THE Coach!) can you imagine rather strange scenario that "someone" (like me ;)) becomes the Club MetRx Gym co-owner...and within just short few years I also become (pssssst - don't say a word to anyone) someone "super" important and "extremely" involved in certain publication as well as Federation...
And as far as most of the pros not coming to Koloseum - here are few pics from yesterday...Recognize anyone?
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Well Chick...back in a day when I was Olympia competitor...back in the 90's (more I think - I can't think that far back anymore...?) Mr. Olympia winner WAS qualified FOR A LIFETIME - and second place finisher would be qualified for the next two years...
And you can check that with some people in the office...
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hey Milos,
why does Branch warren always look 65 years old and Jay Cutler looks relatively young? is JUICING for them that much different
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1) Highest placing International /or second Overall/ IFBB professional at the 2007 Mr. Olympia ( 13th place finisher Hidetada Yamagishi was second highest Mr. Olympia 2007 Under 202 lbs competitor, behind Dave Henry from US - who finished 10th...both beating numerous great IFBB professionals along the way - including multiple IFBB pro champions...)
Completely irrelevant to the discussion...last year was last year, and has no bearing unles you are in the top 6 of the Olympia
Irrelevant - IF YOU DON'T KEEP IN MIND what Olympia is (let me remind you - PINNACLE of our sport...BEST OF THE BEST!) - or maybe it is best of the rest (those who could have a chance to qualify...as AGAIN - Hidetada Yamagishi IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS DENIED THAT CHANCE...yet by a simple virtue of his placing at the LAST SHOW in the 2007 (Mr. Olympia) and the last show in 2008 (Atlantic City) - to emphasize HOW RELEVANT is my statement under #1 ;) - he is still NUMERO UNO or at least numero dos...if you know what I mean...?
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hey Milos,
why does Branch warren always look 65 years old and Jay Cutler looks relatively young? is JUICING for them that much different
Find me one 65 year old guy that looks like Branch - I would love to meet him...
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And as far as most of the pros not coming to Koloseum - here are few pics from yesterday...Recognize anyone?
Who's the chick in the red and is the bald guy her husband/boyfriend?
Where are they from?
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Find me one 65 year old guy that looks like Branch - I would love to meet him...
What i was saying is that Branch is in mid 30's and looks a good 20 yrs older. That is healthy, right?
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Milos, does Dennis Wolf stand any chance of winning this year's Olympia or will politics keep that from happening?
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2) Highest placing Under 202 lbs professional competitor at 2008 Atlantic City Pro Invitational last weekend (placing 8th Overall - repeating what winner of Under 202 lbs 2008 Europa IFBB PRO Supershow champion Flex Lewis did weeks ago - placing 8th Overall after receiving 1st place award for his "Under 202 victory")
There was no 202 class at the AC Pro, so there was no "repeat" of anything
There was no 202 class at the AC?
WHY?
I made an example so you can see for yourself...
If anyone wants to assume that Atlantic City was in any way INFERIOR to any other IFBB pro show - I state the facts:
As spectacular as Flex Lewis - rightful winner of the 202 Class at the EUROPA show who entered OPEN division as well - placed 8th...loosing to 7 bigger guys...SAME RESULT Hide managed to achieve at the last show...
Relevancy of my statement is ONLY if you are still considering the facts: do we REALLY WANT the best competitors on that stage - or...never mind...
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3) Entered record number of IFBB pro shows in 2006/2007 and signed up to do the same in 2008...
While waiting for his US visa to be approved Hide signed to enter Under 202 lbs shows (all held in US) - which he had to pass due to "Immigration delay"...
Again...irelevant to the situation
NEVER MIND again...as we have established - Showdown is not SHOWDOWN of the best...
4) As soon as his VISA was approved he came to US and entered the only remaining show (Atlantic City)...and managed to beat every Under 202 competitor out of 54 that have entered the show - BUT...Atlantic City contrary to previous 5 shows DIDN'T HAVE 202 class (WHY EXACTLY?)...
Because the promoter chose not to have one, and decided to have a Masters show....the IFBB doesn't dictate what the promoters chose to pay for.
Who is talking about promoters - I am talking:
YOU, athletes representative who should be the one (not me) stating THESE EXACT FACTS to the powers that make decision....
IFBB OFFICIALS who could make the right decision...
PROMOTER of the 202 SHOWDOWN show - who has the right to invite SPECIAL INVITEE...
If all of you guys consider INTERNATIONAL FANS...(did I say INTERNATIONAL?)...you would see the answer - from the airplane...
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Milos, does Dennis Wolf stand any chance of winning this year's Olympia or will politics keep that from happening?
Last year he was with me...EXACT REASON HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE...
this year is another story...God save Jay and others...Wolf is HUNGRY... ;D
You know the story of the HUNGRY WOLF?
SCARRRRRRYYYYYY!!!!
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Hide should have the invite ! 8)
Hey Milos, Melvin looks incredibly ripped in that picture !
Looks like he will bring his best condition to date, do you agree (you saw him all those years, you must know how he looks usually when a show is near)
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Who's the chick in the red and is the bald guy her husband/boyfriend?
Where are they from?
My dear friends from Italy...
Mavi has a photoshoot in my gym - RIGHT NOW...and her boyfriend Gian Enrico Pica is Italian IFBB pro...
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What i was saying is that Branch is in mid 30's and looks a good 20 yrs older. That is healthy, right?
30 + 20 = 65...
Oh, I forgot where I was ...for a second....
GETBIG 30 + GETBIG 20 = 65
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My dear friends from Italy...
Mavi has a photoshoot in my gym - RIGHT NOW...and her boyfriend Gian Enrico Pica is Italian IFBB pro...
Ah......he's a big dude, is he competing soon?
She's quite the looker and busts her ass regularly in there, can you sneak us some shots of what she's wearing right now for the photoshoot? :P
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30 + 20 = 65...
Oh, I forgot where I was ...for a second....
GETBIG 30 + GETBIG 20 = 65
OK was i wasn't being literal.. it was sarcastic. You seem to do pretty good with numbers/math though, so can you please give me the formula you used that make Luke look like dog shit? Thanks
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Ah......he's a big dude, is he competing soon?
She's quite the looker and busts her ass regularly in there, can you sneak us some shots of what she's wearing right now for the photoshoot? :P
SUNDAY...day away from the gym...
Just go there in next two hours and you'll see her doing some stiff dead dead lifts (OK - if I was photographer - that's the exercise I would focus on...)
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30 + 20 = 65...
Oh, I forgot where I was ...for a second....
GETBIG 30 + GETBIG 20 = 65
you stop hating on getbig, you drug dealin snitch
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SUNDAY...day away from the gym...
Just go there in next two hours and you'll see her doing some stiff dead dead lifts (OK - if I was photographer - that's the exercise I would focus on...)
Have family stuff in a little bit.
Maybe I can get her to recreate the photoshoot for me Monday? 8) ;D
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Hide should have the invite ! 8)
Hey Milos, Melvin looks incredibly ripped in that picture !
Looks like he will bring his best condition to date, do you agree (you saw him all those years, you must know how he looks usually when a show is near)
Melvin posed for me - AFTER HE MADE SURE I put away the camera...as he was terrified he might loose his contract...
I know Melvin for more than a decade and consider him a friend...
HE IS AT HIS ALL TIME BEST - not super, super, super ripped and dry yet - but not too far away either...
He saw my watch and I promised - I would give him ONE if he wins...and he told me - be ready as I am going to hold you up on that offer...
Needless to say - I told him I would be delighted to give him Mr. Olympia winning watch - anytime...This Saturday is just fine...
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OK was i wasn't being literal.. it was sarcastic. You seem to do pretty good with numbers/math though, so can you please give me the formula you used that make Luke look like dog shit? Thanks
I used your math...
20 + 30 and didn't get even close to 65...??? Where did I go wrong?
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Awesome !
big fan of him, I think he could pretty much win the show if he comes in as ripped as Dexter or Phil
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Awesome !
big fan of him, I think he could pretty much win the show if he comes in as ripped as Dexter or Phil
hahahahahaaaaaa, no fuccking way could Melvin EVER win the Olympia.
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I used your math...
20 + 30 and didn't get even close to 65...??? Where did I go wrong?
perhaps you did not read when i said I was being sarcastic? You know like when someone says "Man!! That guy Milos is great at his job!" (thats sarcasm)
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Have family stuff in a little bit.
Maybe I can get her to recreate the photoshoot for me Monday? 8) ;D
She's been training there every day for last 4 weeks...and she'll be there monday + tuesday...
I am sure she'll take a pic or two with you...
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She's been training there every day for last 4 weeks...and she'll be there monday + tuesday...
I am sure she'll take a pic or two with you...
Yeah, I missed a few days, sick, but I was in last week and I'll be there all next week, I'm back on the ball feeling 100%!!
You going to hold her boyfriend back while I get my pic? ;D
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perhaps you did not read when i said I was being sarcastic? You know like when someone says "Man!! That guy Milos is great at his job!" (thats sarcasm)
??? ??? ???
Oh... :'( :'( :'(
I am calling my mother :'( :'( :'( That is sarcasm you say???
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Yeah, I missed a few days, sick, but I was in last week and I'll be there all next week, I'm back on the ball feeling 100%!!
You going to hold her boyfriend back while I get my pic? ;D
He is the greatest guy - don't worry...
just because he is connected with Italian mafia it doesn't mean he'll take your kidney or something...Go ahead - ask for photo....IF YOU DARE... ;D ;D ;D
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hahahahahaaaaaa, no fuccking way could Melvin EVER win the Olympia.
But...I saw him eat QuakerOats???
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you stop hating on getbig, you drug dealin snitch
Is CORTISOL a drug?
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I say OUT - he Hide through his own fault (got busted and detained) didn't qualify. No brainer. No one made him carry restricted meds across the boarder, let him sit it out- he did well to come back in 08.
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Milos,you should make the case for this guy ,he looks 10 x better than Yamagishi.
Steve Nemet?!?
How and why he didn't qualify - is beyond me....
But than again...he was my athlete...Do the math...30 + 20 = 65
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Milos, apparently you are not capable of producing rational thought. As I clearly pointed out, i was just simply saying Branch is in mid 30's and looks 65. Then, i just said "well, he looks a good 20 years older than he is".. This is where your trouble begins: I was not being "literal" in that calculation; I could have just said "Branch looks 40, 50, 60 years older than he is.
At least you are getting the "big picture" though moron ::)
Your logic is about as out of control as some people thyroid levels
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I don't know... have you ever been busted for it? ::)
I've never been busted for anything...yet I've been THROUGH FEDERAL INVESTIGATION - and enjoyed the show - smiling at my home...
Agents had fun checking all my Rx medications prescribed to me...LEGALLY...by American doctors...I even gave them his business card...
Wonder why I was never even charged with simple POSSESSION?
I don't possess ANYTHING ILLEGAL...
And BTW - I block my cortisol - when I find necessary... ;) sometimes with Cortisol blocking Rx...sometimes by simple supplementation...
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I think Milos and Chick have alot in common with the way they deal with people on getbig. :)
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I've never been busted for anything...yet I've been THROUGH FEDERAL INVESTIGATION - and enjoyed the show - smiling at my home...
Agents had fun checking all my Rx medications prescribed to me...LEGALLY...by American doctors...I even gave them his business card...
Wonder why I was never even charged with simple POSSESSION?
I don't possess ANYTHING ILLEGAL...
And BTW - I block my cortisol - when I find necessary... ;) sometimes with Cortisol blocking Rx...sometimes by simple supplementation...
I meant: I don't possess anything illegal - except my 14 inch pythons!!!
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I've never been busted for anything...yet I've been THROUGH FEDERAL INVESTIGATION - and enjoyed the show - smiling at my home...
Agents had fun checking all my Rx medications prescribed to me...LEGALLY...by American doctors...I even gave them his business card...
Wonder why I was never even charged with simple POSSESSION?
I don't possess ANYTHING ILLEGAL...
And BTW - I block my cortisol - when I find necessary... ;) sometimes with Cortisol blocking Rx...sometimes by simple supplementation...
the feds are enjoying the show watching you in your own home also
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Milos doesn't seem like a bad guy, it's just that he's operating under the delusion that pro bodybuilding isn't a complete joke.
You think?
You obviously don't read anything I say...
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Milos doesn't seem like a bad guy, it's just that he's operating under the delusion that pro bodybuilding isn't a complete joke.
How do you know, he's making money, why not take it serious?
I do find it hilarious to watch some people get so worked up over his posts as well as Chicks posts when they beat around the bush and play dumb, (35+20=65) ;D
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the feds are enjoying the show watching you in your own home also
Have been for a while and I love it (feel so much safer this way anyway...My daughter is protected ;)) - I also offered Turkish coffee to keep them awake ...when I see them sleeping...
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Have been for a while and I love it (feel so much safer this way anyway...My daughter is protected ;)) - I also offered Turkish coffee to keep them awake ...when I see them sleeping...
Is Sean Rey the coffee delivery boy?
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Have been for a while and I love it (feel so much safer this way anyway...My daughter is protected ;)) - I also offered Turkish coffee to keep them awake ...when I see them sleeping...
she must be so proud and tell all her friends at school "My daddy has authorities watching him!"
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she must be so proud and tell all her friends at school "My daddy has authorities watching him!"
Indeed - she calls them a "personal body guard"...The best thing is - FREE FOR LIFE...
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Milos - are you a supporter of "ethnic cleansing"?
I can't answer for Milos, but I am. ;D
And judging from some of your past AV's, you show some signs of supporting it.... ;)
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Last year - when I trained him?
Rumor is that MetRx gym is about to close and few members already approached me with "great secret nobody suppose to know - or talk about" /something I've herd from dozens of people already/ asked me if I would consider letting MetRx gym members in my gym for discounted membership rates...
My answer was: membership is FREE if they try my GIANT SETS...or convince "The Coach or The insulin gut without ever using insulin?" to find some courage to show up in Koloseum and show me what the true athlete is all about ;
Other than that - YES - it is true that IFBB pro athletes are better off NOT being associated with me - in any shape or form...IF they want to place decent in any of the upcoming IFBB pro shows...
NO - I don't think for a second that Chris Lund would say such a thing as we are friends for more than 2 decades...I understand the reason WHY he had to leave...but I also hope he understand WHY I didn't want to just simply APOLOGIZE to someone and with that - end all of my problems, my misery, my IFBB suspension...and save my 15-year [old/long] lasting Weider endorsement contract (my livelihood at the time)...
And as FAITH sometimes works wonders my dear Coach...(sorry, I meant THE Coach!) can you imagine rather strange scenario that "someone" (like me ;)) becomes the Club MetRx Gym co-owner...and within just short few years I also become (pssssst - don't say a word to anyone) someone "super" important and "extremely" involved in certain publication as well as Federation...
And as far as most of the pros not coming to Koloseum - here are few pics from yesterday...Recognize anyone?
So........you would have no problem with me asking Nico about this?
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Delusional = Bragging about being watched by the Feds.
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1) Highest placing International /or second Overall/ IFBB professional at the 2007 Mr. Olympia ( 13th place finisher Hidetada Yamagishi was second highest Mr. Olympia 2007 Under 202 lbs competitor, behind Dave Henry from US - who finished 10th...both beating numerous great IFBB professionals along the way - including multiple IFBB pro champions...)
Completely irrelevant to the discussion...last year was last year, and has no bearing unles you are in the top 6 of the Olympia
Irrelevant - IF YOU DON'T KEEP IN MIND what Olympia is (let me remind you - PINNACLE of our sport...BEST OF THE BEST!) - or maybe it is best of the rest (those who could have a chance to qualify...as AGAIN - Hidetada Yamagishi IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS DENIED THAT CHANCE...yet by a simple virtue of his placing at the LAST SHOW in the 2007 (Mr. Olympia) and the last show in 2008 (Atlantic City) - to emphasize HOW RELEVANT is my statement under #1 ;) - he is still NUMERO UNO or at least numero dos...if you know what I mean...?
The "best of the best" qualified by placing in the qualifying spots...
With this mindset...I guess we should allow athletes to submit written requests detailing why they believe they are deserving of a invite.
Hide was "denied" the chance to compete as a result of his own actions, not the federations.
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The "best of the best" qualified by placing in the qualifying spots...
With this mindset...I guess we should allow athletes to submit written requests detailing why they believe they are deserving of a invite.
Hide was "denied" the chance to compete as a result of his own actions, not the federations.
this mofucker gets caught with drugs at the airport and now hes looking for a free pass to the olympia because he was punished for breaking the law? Only Milos would be stupid enough to use that kind of logic.
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I like Hidetada. And he is one of the best Japanese bodybuilders out there, but he was arrested at LAX Airport and got caught. And his sponsor in Japan dropped him, and even now in Japan, there is a karma about him so he isnt profiled a lot. Even the Japanese bodybuilding magazine are worried about using him too much, at the moment.
He should ge the invite to the under 202 show down. He can't beat David Henry or Flex Lewis.
That being said, no special invite for the 202lb and Under. Hidetada looks good, and get him ready for the 2009 Ironman, where, if he places in the top 5, will qualify for the Olympia. And right now, with the date in the third week of January, Hidetada can do what he did in the past.
So get him ready for it.
As for the Olympia 202lb, David, Henry, Flex Lewis and Kevin English are the favorites, in that order.
hahahahahaaaaaa, no way could Melvin EVER win the Olympia.
Even Dexter Jackson said that if Melvin is spot on, he can vie for the top Olympia spot. Never say never.
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He had a rough start to the year, but in terms of worldwide fan attention, I say why not let the guy enter?
Yes, he got in trouble, but so did Vic martinez, and he still has millions of fans in the USA who would prefer to see him in the Olympia.
Good One..
"1"
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Last year he was with me...EXACT REASON HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE...
this year is another story...God save Jay and others...Wolf is HUNGRY... ;D
You know the story of the HUNGRY WOLF?
SCARRRRRRYYYYYY!!!!
Steve Nemet?!?
How and why he didn't qualify - is beyond me....
But than again...he was my athlete...Do the math...30 + 20 = 65
Hi Milos,
it was actually the 2 quotes above that made me join this forum so that i could ask you:
...if this is how you feel about why your competitors don't get a fair chance, then isn't it wise to stop training athletes?
Luke Wood is one athlete that is really trying hard to get somewhere in the IFBB pro ranks, but going by what you say, then you would be making this difficult for him so long as it is known that he is "Team Milos" ...no matter how good he looks?
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So........you would have no problem with me asking Nico about this?
Off course NOT...
I said it publicly - didn't I?
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Hide would have easily qualified at the Japanese Pro contest, if he hadn't been packing viagra and illegal supps in his baggage and caused the Japanese Pro backers to drop the contest. While I'd like to see Hide compete, he shouldn't get an invite to the Olympia. He needs to qualify to compete in the Olympia, as the rules stand. He'll have to wait until next year.
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then you would be making this difficult for him so long as it is known that he is "Team Milos" ...no matter how good he looks?
Whoa, if someone looks really good, he will place well. I dont care if he is Team Milos or Team Chad or Team Hany or Team Ron. It is all how they look against the other competitor.
I have seen competitors look awesome by themselves at the gym a few days out, only when compared with others who looked just as good, decisions are made.
This weekend, I asked why Dave Bourlet didnt win his class in the Open (he won Novice and Overall), and they told me that his upper half (chest and back) looked great, and but legs were less defined than the winner. I didn't see it that way, but three other people I asked did.
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Whoa, if someone looks really good, he will place well. I dont care if he is Team Milos or Team Chad or Team Hany or Team Ron. It is all how they look against the other competitor.
I have seen competitors look awesome by themselves at the gym a few days out, only when compared with others who looked just as good, decisions are made.
This weekend, I asked why Dave Bourlet didnt win his class in the Open (he won Novice and Overall), and they told me that his upper half (chest and back) looked great, and but legs were less defined than the winner. I didn't see it that way, but three other people I asked did.
But the guy that beat him had better legs, but not the upper body?
Isn't that a tie? ;D
Actually, it was very close...the deciding factor was that the other guy was biger/ more muscle....Dave was in better condition.
Either way...Mad Max kicked ass!!!!
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Whoa, if someone looks really good, he will place well. I dont care if he is Team Milos or Team Chad or Team Hany or Team Ron. It is all how they look against the other competitor.
I have seen competitors look awesome by themselves at the gym a few days out, only when compared with others who looked just as good, decisions are made.
This weekend, I asked why Dave Bourlet didnt win his class in the Open (he won Novice and Overall), and they told me that his upper half (chest and back) looked great, and but legs were less defined than the winner. I didn't see it that way, but three other people I asked did.
Ron, do you really believe that because most fans don't.
Do you honestly think Dennis Wolf has a legit chance to beat Jay even though Dennis doesn't have an AMI or Muscltech contract?
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But the guy that beat him had better legs, but not the upper body?
Isn't that a tie? ;D
Actually, it was very close...the deciding factor was that the other guy was biger/ more muscle....Dave was in better condition.
Either way...Mad Max kicked ass!!!!
yeah I just saw the pics, awesome physique !
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The "best of the best" qualified by placing in the qualifying spots...
With this mindset...I guess we should allow athletes to submit written requests detailing why they believe they are deserving of a invite.
Hide was "denied" the chance to compete as a result of his own actions, not the federations.
With MINDSET that you and everyone else keeps ignoring:
1- Hide WAS THE BEST 202 at last years Mr. Olympia
2- Hide is THE BEST 202 competitor at last 2008 IFBB PRO SHOW - Atlantic City (managing to replicate placing of the 202 winner of the 202 class from the Europa show - Flex Lewis - who won 202 class but placed 8th Overall....)
3- He attempted to enter qualifying shows but was DENIED opportunity...so he IS the only one IFBB competitor who didn't have a FAIR CHANCE to qualify...yet - it is more deserving than anyone else.
4- Hide is GOOD for the sport (same Robin Chang invited him to be special guest at the Weider booth last year at the Olympia...The only one WITHOUT endorsement contract...)
5- Hide is good for ASIAN BODYBUILDING...
6 - Helping Hide is good for YOU - the IFBB athletes representative who should listen what other athletes are saying about Hide as well...EVERY SINGLE ONE of the IFBB pros I talked to (including David H, Shawn, Melvin...etc...etc) feels the same - he should be given a chance BY his Federation and Olympia promoters...He is not asking for Olympia invitation (unless they are willing to give him one? Hmmmmm ::)) - he is asking for Showdown show invitation...as EVERYONE in the world knows - he would make that show THAT MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE - giving little of the International spice to it...
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With MINDSET that you and everyone else keeps ignoring:
1- Hide WAS THE BEST 202 at last years Mr. Olympia
2- Hide is THE BEST 202 competitor at last 2008 IFBB PRO SHOW - Atlantic City (managing to replicate placing of the 202 winner of the 202 class from the Europa show - Flex Lewis - who won 202 class but placed 8th Overall....)
3- He attempted to enter qualifying shows but was DENIED opportunity...so he IS the only one IFBB competitor who didn't have a FAIR CHANCE to qualify...yet - it is more deserving than anyone else.
4- Hide is GOOD for the sport (same Robin Chang invited him to be special guest at the Weider booth last year at the Olympia...The only one WITHOUT endorsement contract...)
5- Hide is good for ASIAN BODYBUILDING...
6 - Helping Hide is good for YOU - the IFBB athletes representative who should listen what other athletes are saying about Hide as well...EVERY SINGLE ONE of the IFBB pros I talked to (including David H, Shawn, Melvin...etc...etc) feels the same - he should be given a chance BY his Federation and Olympia promoters...He is not asking for Olympia invitation (unless they are willing to give him one? Hmmmmm ::)) - he is asking for Showdown show invitation...as EVERYONE in the world knows - he would make that show THAT MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE - giving little of the International spice to it...
This is such a non-issue is almost laughable....
The ONLY issue at hand is whether or not he qualified by way of competing at a Olympia qualifying show, or not.
He didn't.
End of story.
If Hide was competing in the Houston Pro 202, and was leading (or in the top 5) going into round 3....and he fell off the stage into the orchestra pit, breaking his leg....THEN I believe a "special invitation" would be justified.
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3- He attempted to enter qualifying shows but was DENIED opportunity...so he IS the only one IFBB competitor who didn't have a FAIR CHANCE to qualify...yet - it is more deserving than anyone else.
Why was he denied the opportunity ???
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Whoa, if someone looks really good, he will place well. I dont care if he is Team Milos or Team Chad or Team Hany or Team Ron. It is all how they look against the other competitor.
I have seen competitors look awesome by themselves at the gym a few days out, only when compared with others who looked just as good, decisions are made.
This weekend, I asked why Dave Bourlet didnt win his class in the Open (he won Novice and Overall), and they told me that his upper half (chest and back) looked great, and but legs were less defined than the winner. I didn't see it that way, but three other people I asked did.
Then how do you expalin Jay winning last year? There were 5 others who should have beat him.
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Good thread.
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Off course NOT...
I said it publicly - didn't I?
Ok.....I will ask today.
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Why was he denied the opportunity ???
He was only "denied" in the fact that he couldn't get his Visa from the Japanese govt.....bottom line is, he couldn't get to the US
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Then how do you expalin Jay winning last year? There were 5 others who should have beat him.
Bob Chick and Milos Sarcev are in here, hashing important issues out, leaving everything out on the table. Brilliant to read two great minds coming together for the sake of clarity. And then "The Coach" comes in with this silly little question, to bring things to a screeching halt...
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This is such a non-issue is almost laughable....
The ONLY issue at hand is whether or not he qualified by way of competing at a Olympia qualifying show, or not.
He didn't.
End of story.
If Hide was competing in the Houston Pro 202, and was leading (or in the top 5) going into round 3....and he fell off the stage into the orchestra pit, breaking his leg....THEN I believe a "special invitation" would be justified.
SPECIAL INVITATION... How would Hide be competing with a broken leg????
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Hide would have easily qualified at the Japanese Pro contest, if he hadn't been packing viagra and illegal supps in his baggage and caused the Japanese Pro backers to drop the contest. While I'd like to see Hide compete, he shouldn't get an invite to the Olympia. He needs to qualify to compete in the Olympia, as the rules stand. He'll have to wait until next year.
He didn't ask for Olympia qualification - AS HE HAD ONE OPPORTUNITY to earn Olympia qualification bu placing top three at Atlantic City...He managed to place 8th...( we tried for more and got less...as he wasn't at his 100% biggest and best...)
But, as he didn't have a CHANCE to qualify for 202 Showdown AT ALL - not once...and he read that Olympia promoter COULD invite special invitee - he immediately contacted Robin...
Everyone in the world knows that Hide is TOP 202 CONTENDER and everyone at the showdown 2008 will have this chance only THIS TIME - in 2008 - when Hide is at his BEST to challenge the best Japanese bodybuilder in the world - Next year it might be different story...
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Bob Chick and Milos Sarcev are in here, hashing important issues out, leaving everything out on the table. Brilliant to read two great minds coming together for the sake of clarity. And then "The Coach" comes in with this silly little question, to bring things to a screeching halt...
Considering I was quoting Ron ::)
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I like Hidetada. And he is one of the best Japanese bodybuilders out there, but he was arrested at LAX Airport and got caught. And his sponsor in Japan dropped him, and even now in Japan, there is a karma about him so he isnt profiled a lot. Even the Japanese bodybuilding magazine are worried about using him too much, at the moment.
That being said, no special invite for the 202lb and Under. Hidetada looks good, and get him ready for the 2009 Ironman, where, if he places in the top 5, will qualify for the Olympia. And right now, with the date in the third week of January, Hidetada can do what he did in the past.
So get him ready for it.
As for the Olympia 202lb, David, Henry, Flex Lewis and Kevin English are the favorites, in that order.
Even Dexter Jackson said that if Melvin is spot on, he can vie for the top Olympia spot. Never say never.
One of the best... ::)
2009 is 2009 - we are talking 2008...WE STILL HAVE A TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING...Even though Hide has lost his hopes...
I didn't...
I still count on REASON and "powers" can still realize that I made just about 100 valid points - and that bringing Asian superstar can ONLY BE GOOD for everyone...and showdown 202 can get that much better...
And how about IF I promise that I will stay home...?
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He was only "denied" in the fact that he couldn't get his Visa from the Japanese govt.....bottom line is, he couldn't get to the US
you get the visa from the country you're visiting. the Japanese government had no desire to keep him from traveling. The US government wouldn't let him in.
Honestly I'm surprised he got in so quickly. I figured it would be five years before they'd let him back into the USofA
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you get the visa from the country you're visiting. the Japanese government had no desire to keep him from traveling. The US government wouldn't let him in.
Honestly I'm surprised he got in so quickly. I figured it would be five years before they'd let him back into the USofA
It would've been 5 years...had ROBIN CHANG not written letters and helped him in..
I honestly wish there was an option to have him in the show...but there is not. There isn't one valid reason to make an exception.
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Hi Milos,
it was actually the 2 quotes above that made me join this forum so that i could ask you:
...if this is how you feel about why your competitors don't get a fair chance, then isn't it wise to stop training athletes?
Luke Wood is one athlete that is really trying hard to get somewhere in the IFBB pro ranks, but going by what you say, then you would be making this difficult for him so long as it is known that he is "Team Milos" ...no matter how good he looks?
I even told some of my guys to STAY A HELL AWAY FROM ME if they want to place in top 100...
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I even told some of my guys to STAY A HELL AWAY FROM ME if they want to place in top 100...
Milos, quit putting yourself down. Your webcasts and seminars have helped hundreds.....if not thousands of people to acheive their fitness goals.
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Hide would have easily qualified at the Japanese Pro contest, if he hadn't been packing viagra and illegal supps in his baggage and caused the Japanese Pro backers to drop the contest. While I'd like to see Hide compete, he shouldn't get an invite to the Olympia. He needs to qualify to compete in the Olympia, as the rules stand. He'll have to wait until next year.
Viagra was for pumping up back stage - and he used his Rx when he was picking up his prescription in Pharmacy (he should have made copy of his prescription first..)...
Illegal supps YOU ARE REFERRING TO - are anti-catabolic/anabolic medicaments OFTEN prescribed by International physicians to protect highly catabolised bodies of pro athletes (especially bodybuilders)...
In his country - PERSONAL SUPPLY of AS is LEGAL to travel with...and numerous other countries have THE SAME POLICY...
Obviously - Hide is allowed BACK in US...and for anyone willing to engage his or her brain cells that means - US Gov. have realized that HE WAS ONLY DOING HIS JOB and was NOT properly informed about the LAW...
Numerous, and I will repeat NUMEROUS great International businessmen often consider their own LAWS and in some instances they learn a hard way that US customs might NOT tolerate SOMETHING that is completely LEGAL in country of their origin.
I was represented by THE BEST OF THE BEST STEROID LAWYER in US - my friend Rick Collins - who KNOWS EVERYTHING (and than some) there is to know about this subject - and even he told me - rules and regulations about importation of personally prescribed medication of International passengers IS gray area and many manipulations could happen - regardless if passenger has valid prescription from his nationally recognized physician ...and medical condition (to have a reason to travel with that medication)...
In correspondence with Hide's lawyer and judge - we needed to demonstrate that he had PERSONAL STACK and nothing else...and as everyone knows - he was NOT CHARGED...with anything but VIAGRA...( something he desperately needed while he was visited by Ron in his Jail...but that's another story...Unless Ron cares to elaborate...?)
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This is such a non-issue is almost laughable....
The ONLY issue at hand is whether or not he qualified by way of competing at a Olympia qualifying show, or not.
He didn't.
End of story.
If Hide was competing in the Houston Pro 202, and was leading (or in the top 5) going into round 3....and he fell off the stage into the orchestra pit, breaking his leg....THEN I believe a "special invitation" would be justified.
XCuse moi...Monsieur Bob (as International athlete rep)...
SPECIAL INVITATION is exactly that - SPECIAL INVITATION...by a promoter who believes that athlete invited WILL be competitive enough or fans would love to see him compete or whatever reason...or...ELSE...(maybe MAKING THE SHOW BETTER???)
Just ask Gunter who didn't get just ONE...or TWO special invitations for the Olympia even though he had a chance to qualify by entering and placing in some qualifying shows...
He got THREE special invitations - and guess what - third time 2002 - he could/should/would/did....etc...etc... more than earn his SPECIAL INVITATION by shocking everyone and almost winning the show...(if judges had OPEN MIND o should I say - open eyes - during the prejudging just like they had during the finals - and they recognized Gunter smoking just about everyone in just about every pose (in just about every aspect that should be considered in judging)...we would have had THE BIGGEST shocker in the history of Mr. Olympia...
Couple of weeks later Gunter managed to beat Ronnie at the GNC show - but that was much different than winning the Olympia...
Anyway - how did Gunter deserve not 1 or 2...but THREE special invitations?
Oh...we didn't have athletes rep back than...?
Hmmm...
Bob, it is laughable how "politically correct" you always seem to be...
"The ONLY issue at hand is whether or not he qualified by way of competing at a Olympia qualifying show, or not.
He didn't. End of story."
Why would he need to qualify by way of competing at a Olympia qualifying show?
He is NOT asking for Olympia invitation....
He is asking (actually he is NOT asking - I am insisting - and not because he is my friend - but BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO - for the fans, for the athletes, for the IFBB, for Asian bodybuilding...for BODYBUILDING...for SPORT...for camaraderie...for FAIRNESS...and for the Independence Day!!!...Why this last one? Well, I don't know exactly - but it sure sounds good...so let's say for the overall effect!)
I am NOT the enemy...as most of the people in the IFBB consider me to be...I claim that each and every action I was/am/will be making was ALWAYS and ONLY for the Federations and especially ATHLETES benefits - and never the opposite...
PS: Idea of falling of the stage during the posing routine is quite interesting...How did you come up with that one?
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Does anyone think that Milos and Bob will get together for another workout anytime soon?
Or can they chalk this up as "just business" and still be able to come together as personal friends?
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One of the best... ::)
2009 is 2009 - we are talking 2008...WE STILL HAVE A TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING...Even though Hide has lost his hopes...
I didn't...
I still count on REASON and "powers" can still realize that I made just about 100 valid points - and that bringing Asian superstar can ONLY BE GOOD for everyone...and showdown 202 can get that much better...
And how about IF I promise that I will stay home...?
Milos, What have you done to accomplish this special invitation directly with the IFBB? Seems that arguing the topic on a BB forum isn't very constructive toward getting Hide an invite. Call Chick direct and discuss it with him. Get him on your side. Contact Rafael Santonja, Ben Weider, Robin Chang and the other powers that be and argue Hide's case.
By spitting your vitriol on the boards, you aren't doing anything constructive and aren't helping Hide.
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Milos, What have you done to accomplish this special invitation directly with the IFBB? Seems that arguing the topic on a BB forum isn't very constructive toward getting Hide an invite. Call Chick direct and discuss it with him. Get him on your side. Contact Rafael Santonja, Ben Weider, Robin Chang and the other powers that be and argue Hide's case.
By spitting your vitriol on the boards, you aren't doing anything constructive and aren't helping Hide.
He did email myself, Jim Manion, Robin Chang, Peter McGough, etc....
The answer was no...from everyone.
There is no justification to extend an invite without it being unfair to those who did qualify, and those who competed but didn't....
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So you are in favor of eliminating the "special invite" qualification entirely, since the same could be said of any special invite?
I've never been in favor of them, and Gunters string of invites was a joke...all in the Wayne era.
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Do you honestly think Dennis Wolf has a legit chance to beat Jay even though Dennis doesn't have an AMI or Muscltech contract?
Yes, I do. If Dennis is is better shape, he should win. After all, he has a Nutrex contract.
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The 202 and under is limimted to 15 competitors. They only have 14. Hide should be allowed to compete based on his past placings.
Ray Arde
Jason Arntz
Curtis Bryant
Eric Castagnet
Charles Dixon
Kevin English
George Farah
David Henry
Jaroslav Horvath
Richard Jackson
James Lewis
Jeffrey Long
Roc Shabazz
Nathan Wosley
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Milos, What have you done to accomplish this special invitation directly with the IFBB? Seems that arguing the topic on a BB forum isn't very constructive toward getting Hide an invite. Call Chick direct and discuss it with him. Get him on your side. Contact Rafael Santonja, Ben Weider, Robin Chang and the other powers that be and argue Hide's case.
By spitting your vitriol on the boards, you aren't doing anything constructive and aren't helping Hide.
I did send emails directly to people in charge...
I also called Chick...but neither resulted in positive outcome...
As I honestly believe they didn't consider ALL circumstances (should I repeat it again ;D...oh boy...i better not...) I sent several emails and also posted on my and getbig board - as i know many people involved - read it...
After all we do have MEDIA for a reason...I don't see WHY would I (or anyone else for that matter) make a mistake by posting here...?
Also - having different opinion doesn't mean I am an enemy...i just FIGHT for what i BELIEVE IN little longer than others...To me Hide is NOT OUT yet...even though he is certainly not in either...
i hope that Robin will realize that Hide is not Milos - and also recognize top contender when he sees one...
I will post some photos of Hide from todays workout - as he is getting better by a minute...
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I feel sorry that Hide can't get a special invite to compete the -202 lbs.
Because I just received an e-mail from promoter Robin Chang ,who used to work out at my gym in Taipei.
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Does anyone think that Milos and Bob will get together for another workout anytime soon?
Or can they chalk this up as "just business" and still be able to come together as personal friends?
I don't have a problem with neither Bob or Pinocchio... ;D
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I feel sorry that Hide can't get a special invite to compete the -202 lbs.
Because I just received an e-mail from promoter Robin Chang ,who used to work out at my gym in Taipei.
Did you overcharge him for a membership?
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Milos and I get along just fine....it's never a problem to have a guy who has passion for our sport. I'll take 100 Milos' over guys who say nothing and don't contribute.
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Did you overcharge him for a membership?
Haha...
No,But I did forget to spot him during benching ;D ;D
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I even told some of my guys to STAY A HELL AWAY FROM ME if they want to place in top 100...
Thankyou for your response Milos.
May i ask then why there are a handfull of athlete you still train?
In particular Luke Wood who is busting his balls to try and get his name out there high in the pro ranks?
Have you had a word to him about this - effecting his career that will go no where while he is still associated with your name (according to you)?
If what you say is correct - you would let Luke go so that he has a better chance in this sport?
Thanks.
HB.
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I've never been in favor of them, and Gunters string of invites was a joke...all in the Wayne era.
but it does set a precedent...Or was it Quadzilla and Cutler that set the precedent...Just how far back do these special invites go?
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Did Mattarozzo actually ever qualify for the big show...I know he competed and placed last just about every time...How about Mike Quinn?
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I even told some of my guys to STAY A HELL AWAY FROM ME if they want to place in top 100...
Sorry mate, aint going to happen! I will stay away only when you tell me to! Otherwise i stick by my friends who stick by me and if this means i place lower than so be it!
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but it does set a precedent...Or was it Quadzilla and Cutler that set the precedent...Just how far back do these special invites go?
Yeah...a bad one.
There is a reason no invites have been given since Wayne moved on...
Invites should be reserved for a legend that wants to return, or some special circumstance as I outlined earlier in the thread...
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What happened to Hide's abs? It looks all mushy even though he's single digits in those pics. And what's up with the smirking.
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if this means i place lower than so be it!
You are mad Luke!
I read somewhere that placing high was a goal of yours?
Kind of contradicts what you are saying doesn't it?
Im sure i read somewhere that if you did not qualify for the 2009 olympia, that you will call it a day: actually, i am positive i read that!
So...so be it then?
Just because of one guy? ...which mind you - you have NO trouble what so ever in getting in shape (the shape of your life!) by yourself as you have proved.
Yeah, be friends behind the scenes of it all...but LOL...your "brother like family" Milos himself is telling it in black and white that you will get NO WHERE while being associated with him.
Sometimes,when especially a show, i know, can cost you thousands and thousands of dollars...is it worth it?
No its not clearly.
But if you go by what you stand by, then right here right now you have just admitted that just for the sake of calling Milos your "trainer" you are willing to place low and that if thats the way it is, then thats the way it is?
There you go Luke Wood fans.
You heard it first.
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You are mad Luke!
I read somewhere that placing high was a goal of yours?
Kind of contradicts what you are saying doesn't it?
Im sure i read somewhere that if you did not qualify for the 2009 olympia, that you will call it a day: actually, i am positive i read that!
So...so be it then?
Just because of one guy? ...which mind you - you have NO trouble what so ever in getting in shape (the shape of your life!) by yourself as you have proved.
Yeah, be friends behind the scenes of it all...but LOL...your "brother like family" Milos himself is telling it in black and white that you will get NO WHERE while being associated with him.
Sometimes,when especially a show, i know, can cost you thousands and thousands of dollars...is it worth it?
No its not clearly.
But if you go by what you stand by, then right here right now you have just admitted that just for the sake of calling Milos your "trainer" you are willing to place low and that if thats the way it is, then thats the way it is?
There you go Luke Wood fans.
You heard it first.
Ok Phil!! ;)
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Ok Phil!! ;) I like the 'healthy look' your going for these days 'Luke'
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Milos and I get along just fine....it's never a problem to have a guy who has passion for our sport. I'll take 100 Milos' over guys who say nothing and don't contribute.
WHATS WRONG WITH GETBIG MEMBERS? ::)
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Ok Phil!! ;)
LOL, Im guessing this is supposed to be the name of the person that you think i am?
...Mind answering the question?
You kind of contradict yourself when you say you are ok with placing low in shows but then somewhere else say that it is your mission to be on the Olympia stage.
For the sake of calling Milos your trainer, you are happy to place low in shows you say?
Regardless of the thousands it costs you to prep for a show?
The choice is easy Luke if you would like to get ahead in this sport (and in this thread i think even Milos is basically telling you - indirectly) that you will get no where with him by yourside.
Last year he was with me...EXACT REASON HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE...
this year is another story...God save Jay and others...Wolf is HUNGRY... ;D
You know the story of the HUNGRY WOLF?
SCARRRRRRYYYYYY!!!!
Steve Nemet?!?
How and why he didn't qualify - is beyond me....
But than again...he was my athlete...Do the math...30 + 20 = 65
...who else do you want to hear this from other than Milos himself?
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...thought as much.
What could you possibly reply even after Milos "your brother, your family, flesh and blood" is giving you the hint/warning?
"Happy to place low" ....good luck bro!
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UPDATE:
Based on info coming out of Dubai, India Hide will special guest pose at the Mr. O.
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You all are missing the point, HIDE shouldnt be in america, he's a drug dealer.
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milos 1st u post shitty joel stubbs pics-now u post these shitty things
please stop loading the server with crap and slowing it down even more
Do you prefer these?
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Delusional = Bragging about being watched by the Feds.
Delusional = Not being able to tell when someone is joking.