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Title: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 22, 2008, 02:22:34 PM
Lots of fags in europe and all over the world hate you.

Was talking about this in the gym today. It is fags.

America done more for western world than any other nation.

Helped in WW1 WW2 kept communism at bay...this war for oil i believe is shit...using the spoils of war to fund the war...victor gets the spoils.

When the irish were oppressed they opened their doors and let us move up when the british government had rules like Irish people cant even vote etc.

It is jealousy...lot of this hate is propagated by the brits...Best country in the world

America I salute you!
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Permabulker on September 22, 2008, 02:24:31 PM
Lots of fags in europe and all over the world hate you.

Was talking about this in the gym today. It is fags.

America done more for western world than any other nation.

Helped in WW1 WW2 kept communism at bay...this war for oil i believe is shit...using the spoils of war to fund the war...victor gets the spoils.

When the irish were oppressed they opened their doors and let us move up when the british government had rules like Irish people cant even vote etc.

It is jealousy...lot of this hate is propagated by the brits...Best country in the world

America I salute you!

Hurry up and marry into your citizenship before the secure all the borders!
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 22, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
I dont get it?
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: dj181 on September 22, 2008, 02:27:25 PM
Thanks man! While there are plenty of a-holes in the USA, the American ideals of freedom, individual rights, and the pursuit of happiness are the best 8)
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 22, 2008, 02:28:51 PM
Correct. I dont subscribe to this hate america shit.

Seriously without america we would be fucking dead.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 22, 2008, 02:30:14 PM
Thanks man! While there are plenty of a-holes in the USA, the American ideals of freedom, individual rights, and the pursuit of happiness are the best 8)

Hahahahaha!@!!@! oh yeah, especially after the Bush 9/11 ploy! lol
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Permabulker on September 22, 2008, 02:30:30 PM
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Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: dj181 on September 22, 2008, 02:34:20 PM
Hahahahaha!@!!@! oh yeah, especially after the Bush 9/11 ploy! lol

notice, i said "ideals" but i never said they were actually a fact! but, when the constition was first drawn up that was it's vision ;)
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 22, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
anyone ever see the south park episode about 9/11 conspiracy...

Thats what this place reminds me off from time to time
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Cromespyder on September 22, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Lots of fags in europe and all over the world hate you.

Was talking about this in the gym today. It is fags.

America done more for western world than any other nation.

Helped in WW1 WW2 kept communism at bay...this war for oil i believe is shit...using the spoils of war to fund the war...victor gets the spoils.

When the irish were oppressed they opened their doors and let us move up when the british government had rules like Irish people cant even vote etc.

It is jealousy...lot of this hate is propagated by the brits...Best country in the world

America I salute you!
i can see why people hate the US, its justified in alot of cases..but i never understood europeans hating the US and americans so much though, they really aren't victims of anything the US has done, they pretty much have only benefited from the US' existence, financially and otherwise,pretty significantly. i don't think europeans should grovel at our feet or anything, but at least not hate and insult so much, specifically american people.  oh well, im sure this will change if/when a non-western country becomes superpower.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 22, 2008, 02:52:26 PM
Yea its only a recent trend started by british media about anti war shit

Traditionally yanks were seen as quirky. I have many relative in the USA

My granny Goudy never wanted to go when she was 14, she stayed and looked after the kids after her mother died.

Some of her sisters etc went though and brothers went. Come to visti now and again. Many served in US army etc
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 22, 2008, 06:15:20 PM
i can see why people hate the US, its justified in alot of cases..but i never understood europeans hating the US and americans so much though, they really aren't victims of anything the US has done, they pretty much have only benefited from the US' existence, financially and otherwise,pretty significantly. i don't think europeans should grovel at our feet or anything, but at least not hate and insult so much, specifically american people.  oh well, im sure this will change if/when a non-western country becomes superpower.

We sneer at the US because we made you what you are, without us there wouldn't have been a U.S
:)
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Cromespyder on September 22, 2008, 06:54:45 PM
We sneer at the US because we made you what you are, without us there wouldn't have been a U.S
:)
LOL, well you cant argue with that, we are from europe dude.

aren't you canadian?
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: tu_holmes on September 22, 2008, 06:58:51 PM
We sneer at the US because we made you what you are, without us there wouldn't have been a U.S
:)

So you're saying we did it better because we've achieved greatness that hasn't been seen in 2 Millennium?
 
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 22, 2008, 07:04:11 PM
LOL, well you cant argue with that, we are from europe dude.

aren't you canadian?

I'm European living in Canada.

So you're saying we did it better because we've achieved greatness that hasn't been seen in 2 Millennium?
 

 ;D
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Cromespyder on September 22, 2008, 07:35:12 PM
I'm European living in Canada.

 ;D
what country?
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 22, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
what country?
???
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Cromespyder on September 22, 2008, 08:28:05 PM
???
wondering what country in europe he's from!
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 22, 2008, 11:00:03 PM
If Goudy had been alive in the 1940's he could have single-handedly walked all the way to Germany himself crushing the German army all the way to Berlin!  8)

Cool post Goud!
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: freespirit on September 23, 2008, 11:30:20 AM
http://www.normandy1944.info/

D-day, june 6, Normandy
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: wavelength on September 23, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
Funny thing is, it's mostly retarded Europeans who know jack shit about the US.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 23, 2008, 12:33:27 PM
If Goudy had been alive in the 1940's he could have single-handedly walked all the way to Germany himself crushing the German army all the way to Berlin!  8)

Cool post Goud!

Talking about this to an educated friend in the gym. I love america hope to go there one day.

Sister drove from San Diego to Nevada last year listening to Johnny Cash all the way lol...said was so cool.

also its pretentious europeans who think they are refined and sneer at the brashness/confidence/quirkyness/happiness of the yanks :)
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Deicide on September 23, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
Funny thing is, it's mostly retarded Europeans who know jack shit about the US.

Sorry, but the US is a HUGE mess now; anyone with half a brain can realise this or should realise this. We are militarily overstretched, overtaxed, overspent, etc. and now we have $700,000,000,000 bailouts for rich fucks who suck Bernanke's cock. Awesome stuff. Yeah, there are problems in Europe but at least the European Central Bank tries to do a halfway decent job; look at the fed, an umitigated disaster. :-\
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: wavelength on September 23, 2008, 12:51:05 PM
Sorry, but the US is a HUGE mess now; anyone with half a brain can realise this or should realise this. We are militarily overstretched, overtaxed, overspent, etc. and now we have $700,000,000,000 bailouts for rich fucks who suck Bernanke's cock. Awesome stuff. Yeah, there are problems in Europe but at least the European Central Bank tries to do a halfway decent job; look at the fed, an umitigated disaster. :-\

Maybe, but that's not what this thread is about. Regarding the current financial situation, let's see in one or two years who will look better, my guess is that there won't be too much of a difference between US and Europe.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Deicide on September 23, 2008, 01:16:16 PM
Maybe, but that's not what this thread is about. Regarding the current financial situation, let's see in one or two years who will look better, my guess is that there won't be too much of a difference between US and Europe.

That's why you likely won't see me on either of THOSE continents. There is a whole corner of the world with lots of economic opportunities.  ;)

Still, there are some fundamental differences. No European country (European Union) has nearly a 1000 military bases in over 130 countries which costs it $1.3 trillion a year, for maintenance alone. Sie liegen Welten auseinander und daher kann man nur ganz schlecht einen direkten Vergleich ziehen.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: wavelength on September 23, 2008, 01:22:05 PM
That's why you likely won't see me on either of THOSE continents. There is a whole corner of the world with lots of economic opportunities.  ;)

So what part of the world are you thinking?

Still, there are some fundamental differences. No European country (European Union) has nearly a 1000 military bases in over 130 countries which costs it $1.3 trillion a year, for maintenance alone. Sie liegen Welten auseinander und daher kann man nur ganz schlecht einen direkten Vergleich ziehen.

Agreed.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Deicide on September 23, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
So what part of the world are you thinking?

Agreed.

Well, for better or worse, Asia will continue to grow; if I cannot find suitable work in Europe, it is off to Asia for me.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: wordy on September 24, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
Like everything else in the World there are good and bad people everywhere, be they Americans, English, French, Iraqis, Afghans. The good people should get respect, the bad contempt.


*EDIT* Apart from the Scottish, they're all dickheads.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on September 24, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
I worked with a scottish girl.

She was so annoying i just wanted to spit on her
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: mac7000 on September 24, 2008, 10:21:04 PM
Most Americans are good people my dad came over from Larne N.Ireland when he was a kid. We carried on the Irish Catholic tradition over in the states... 10 kids in my family.

Like any country you have to watch out for the red necks who live outside the cities.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: dj181 on May 11, 2010, 01:21:48 AM
FYI most of the so-called  "red necks" have Irish roots :> Riddle me this... How many Jewish red necks are there? LOL
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: Ursus on May 11, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Most Americans are good people my dad came over from Larne N.Ireland when he was a kid. We carried on the Irish Catholic tradition over in the states... 10 kids in my family.

Like any country you have to watch out for the red necks who live outside the cities.

Larne is 20miles from where I live. It is quite a staunchly protestant place now. Not such a nice place anymore - kinda old and rundown looking.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: phreak on May 12, 2010, 01:37:15 AM
Thanks man! While there are plenty of a-holes in the USA, the American ideals of freedom, individual rights, and the pursuit of happiness are the best 8)
Exactly. Nobody in the world (despite "they hate our freedoms" ::) ) disagrees with the ideals the US was founded on. What causes a lot of backlash is the lies and hypocrisy surrounding those ideals. And also of course the tireless mantra of "USA #1!". The US hasn't been #1 in something positive in a long time, so STFU with the empty rhetoric. That alone would quell most of the "hate" towards the US.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: phreak on May 12, 2010, 01:43:05 AM
i can see why people hate the US, its justified in alot of cases..but i never understood europeans hating the US and americans so much though, they really aren't victims of anything the US has done, they pretty much have only benefited from the US' existence, financially and otherwise,pretty significantly. i don't think europeans should grovel at our feet or anything, but at least not hate and insult so much, specifically american people.  oh well, im sure this will change if/when a non-western country becomes superpower.
One funny example: "Freedom Fries". Talk about hate towards another country. France refused to be used as a puppet in an illegal war, and the whole US (including your government) vilified them. THAT is the sort of behavior that creates resentment. Another example: The "Invasion of The Hague" act. Or "agree to these trade tariffs, even though they go only one way". Or "we are putting nukes in your back yard whether you like it or not".

I don't think any significant amount of Europeans hate American individuals. But your government? Most definitely.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: dj181 on May 12, 2010, 04:07:08 AM
Is it true the these US ideals of "freedom, individual rights, and the persuit of happiness" can trace their orgins from the British Magna Carte? Sorry, but I'm too much of a lazy ass to research it on my own LOL
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: smoothasf on May 12, 2010, 08:29:30 AM
the first people went to america and said lets set this ountry up right with good principles, and they were spot on the country grew faster than any place in history.  then the brits (im one) said lets get our dirty greedy central bank over there and control the country and slowly work those rights back out from under their feet. i dont hate the usa, i hate that they had it all and let greedy bankers slowly take it all back off them
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: tu_holmes on May 12, 2010, 09:33:02 AM
dj... yes... it's true... 1215... It led to what most people refer to today as "common law".
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: _bruce_ on May 27, 2010, 08:37:03 AM
Many things and folks I like were made in USA.
Many bad things there but also some mighty good ones.
Title: Re: In defence of the americans....
Post by: devilsmile on May 31, 2010, 08:12:37 AM
WTF  :D, the first  post of this thread, what a load of horse shit!