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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: suckmymuscle on September 29, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I think they would be compared, just as Shawn and Dorian were.
However, since I think Shawn's best is a little better than Dexter's best, I've little doubt Dorian would've won last weekend.
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Agreed, Yates would have won quite handily. Like he always did.
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the 1 armed olympia thief yates would only win due to the politics
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Anybody from top 6 of any Olympia would have won 2008 knock it off allready!!!!!
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Any version of Dorian (including 1997) would have dominated the competition.
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Shredded and Huge bodybuilder letting his brothers in iron know when the olympia was going to be broadcasted......
:)
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Shredded and Huge bodybuilder letting his brothers in iron know when the olympia was going to be broadcasted......
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LOL who is that fat attention-seeking musclebear wannabe?
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Why are many current pros so much more bloated and soft?
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Why are many current pros so much more bloated and soft?
As Larry Pepe put it, the "Ronnie Coleman effect." Guys were coming in bigger thinking that's how you win at the cost of condition. This year there was a lot more quality (well conditioned BBs) in the Olympia compared to past years.
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You are such an imbecile. I can't believe you continue posting this nonsense. You are LITERALLY WRONG ON EVERY SINGLE THING YOU POST. It's actually a quite amazing achievement. You're King of the Clueless.
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You are such an imbecile. I can't believe you continue posting this nonsense. You are LITERALLY WRONG ON EVERY SINGLE THING YOU POST. It's actually a quite amazing achievement. You're King of the Clueless.
STFU, idiot troll. You are literally wrong on everything you say to me or about me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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STFU, idiot troll. You are literally wrong on everything you say to me or about me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Here's the deal Sucky - I'm not the only one who knows you are the biggest jackass in the history of getbig. You're the king of kings. If we could kick you off the island, we most certainly would. You're worthless and provide nothing of value. At least be a charming dunce!
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Here's the deal Sucky - I'm not the only one who knows you are the biggest jackass in the history of getbig. You're the king of kings. If we could kick you off the island, we most certainly would. You're worthless and provide nothing of value. At least be a charming dunce!
Meltdown
Ha ha ha ha...you registered here in July of 2007, whilst I have been a member here since 2004. So who the fuck do you think you are to tell me that I should be kicked off the board, NOOB?
Your post count is not even in the four digit and you haven't been a member here for even a couple years, and you want to give lessons? You need to be put on your place, boy. And Dorian 95' would most certainly have won this year's Olympia, an opinion that is shared by many in this thread - did you even bother reading the responses, dipshit? You are calling me an idiot just to insult, with no grounds for it. I have a suspicion that you are "Pobrecito", AKA England_1, but I will leave it that. The next time, remove your shoes before entering MY house, boy. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Meltdown
Ha ha ha ha...you registered here in July of 2007, whilst I have been a member here since 2004. So who the fuck do you think you are to tell me that I should be kicked off the board, NOOB?
Your post count is not even in the four digit and you haven't been a member here for even a couple years, and you want to give lessons? You need to be put on your place, boy. And Dorian 95' would most certainly have won this year's Olympia, an opinion that is shared by many in this thread - did you even bother reading the responses, dipshit? You are calling me an idiot just to insult, with no grounds for it. I have a suspicion that you are "Pobrecito", AKA England_1, but I will leave it that. The next time, remove your shoes before entering MY house, boy. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Congratulations for having been registered on this site longer than I have! Whooptee-dooo! You aren't in any position to give any lessons, JACKASS! You are a tenured idiot; big deal.
What's the obsession with Jay? What's the obsession with Dorian? The getbig consensus is that these two gents should have won about half of the Olympias they ended up with.
What's the big deal with two overrated white bodybuilders who lack aesthetics and good structure? DO YOU JUST LIKE WHITE MOUNDS OF MUSCLE? IS THAT IT SUCKY?
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Adjusted for height, he would have roughly the same amount of muscle as Dexter. His arms would be dominated by Dexter's, as would be every single one of his body parts with the the exception of back and calves. Dorian also had a missing bicep, so points off for that.
Fail.
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Adjusted for height, he would have roughly the same amount of muscle as Dexter. His arms would be dominated by Dexter's, as would be every single one of his body parts with the the exception of back and calves.
Fail.
Eat that Sucky!
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Eat that Sucky!
Don't pay any attention to that fucking moron or his gimmick cigarette_man.
Watch out for the retort of him being more intelligent that you; when in reality he's a homo resorting to gimmicks and lies. :-\
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Adjusted for height, he would have roughly the same amount of muscle as Dexter. His arms would be dominated by Dexter's, as would be every single one of his body parts with the the exception of back and calves.
Fail.
No, I don't think so. Dexter is 5'6, whereas Dorian is 5'10. Dorian would be 30 lbs heavier with superior conditioning. Let's say for the sake of discussion that Dorian carried 40 lbs more of muscle. In this case, Dexter would need to be 8" and not only 4" shorter than Dorian to be carrying as much muscle for his height as Dorian did.
You fail. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Congratulations for having been registered on this site longer than I have! Whooptee-dooo! You aren't in any position to give any lessons, JACKASS! You are a tenured idiot; big deal.
What's the obsession with Jay? What's the obsession with Dorian? The getbig consensus is that these two gents should have won about half of the Olympias they ended up with.
What's the big deal with two overrated white bodybuilders who lack aesthetics and good structure? DO YOU JUST LIKE WHITE MOUNDS OF MUSCLE? IS THAT IT SUCKY?
So you're a racist too? Moron, if you knew anything about me, you'd know that my favorite bodybuilder ever is Sergio Oliva, and in second place, Lee Haney, which I personally regard as the greatest bodybuilder ever. Furthermore, I think Ronnie at his best would easily defeat Jay at his best. So there!So much for me being a racist, huh? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Don't pay any attention to that fucking moron or his gimmick cigarette_man.
Watch out for the retort of him being more intelligent that you; when in reality he's a homo resorting to gimmicks and lies. :-\
Thanks for the heads up. He's quite a piece of work, this sucky guy. I continue to be astounded by his void of rational thought. This poor soul needs help.
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No, I don't think so. Dexter is 5'6, whereas Dorian is 5'10. Dorian would be 30 lbs heavier with superior conditioning. Let's say for the sake of discussion that Dorian carried 40 lbs more of muscle. In this case, Dexter would need to be 8" and not only 4" shorter than Dorian to be carrying as much muscle for his height as Dorian did.
You fail. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You can't use simple ratio adjustments. Dexter is shorter, but also has superior muscle bellies giving the illusion of more size. He would look bigger than a 1995 Dorian no doubt. The disparity in arms would be greater than the disparity in calves. Dorian would have the better back, but Dex would look as just as big, and roughly of the same width.
In this era of insulin-inflation physiques, we tend to forget just how much bigger physiques have gotten. You've made that mistake, son.
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So you're a racist too? Moron, if you knew anything about me, you'd know that my favorite bodybuilder ever is Sergio Oliva, and in second place, Lee Haney, which I personally regard as the greatest bodybuilder ever. Furthermore, I think Ronnie at his best would easily defeat Jay at his best. So there!So much for me being a racist, huh? ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You aren't worth responding to, but I'll go anyway. You are the one who shouts from the rooftops about how wonderful Dorian and Jay are. Dorian and Jay are impressive bodybuilders in the overall scene of pro bodybuilding, but they are severely lacking in different areas. I could go on and explain where and why, but that's been done many times before. Kevin should have defeated Dorian. Shawn should have defeated Dorian. Nasser should have won in 97. You do not win the Mr. Olympia with a torn bicep muscle, plain and simple.
Jay is a block. End of discussion. Why do you constantly sing Jay's praises and announce him as the winner of the 2008 Olympia before he ever sets foot on stage? Why do you say Dorian could have won this year's Olympia? HE HAD A TORN BICEP! This DQ's him from consideration. It should have back then and it certainly would today. Bodybuilding fans aren't going to accept guys with torn muscles, spotty conditioning and bad aesthetics winning the top prize in bodybuilding anymore.
The days of the mass monster are over. Move on Sucky. Dexter is the 2008 Mr. Olympia and received a standing ovation upon becoming the champion. The getbig consensus is that the right man won the show, and even if Dex wouldn't have won, Jay should not have been near the top spot.
I'm done with you.
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Sucky, it's truly pathetic if you think I am "relentless." LOL. Please contact Ron and have him to an IP check to confirm this. I mean, it's the least
CigaretteMan you could do for me ;)
P.S. This thread is right on. Although I do prefer 93 to 95.
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You can't use simple ratio adjustments. Dexter is shorter, but also has superior muscle bellies giving the illusion of more size. He would look bigger than a 1995 Dorian no doubt. The disparity in arms would be greater than the disparity in calves. Dorian would have the better back, but Dex would look as just as big, and roughly of the same width.
In this era of insulin-inflation physiques, we tend to forget just how much bigger physiques have gotten. You've made that mistake, son.
It doesen't matter. Your original point was that Dexter would have as much muscle mass as Dorian when adjusted for height, a statement I have proved to be false
As for muscle bellies, oh boy. Wheeler had rounder muscle bellies than Dorian and was taller than Dex, was was defated by Dorian. Kevin Levrone was 250 lbs with much rounder muscle bellies, and got defeated as well. As usual, you have no argument and are arguing for no other reason than to argue, because you don't like me and want to prove me wrong. Too bad you don't have the capacity for it. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sucky, it's truly pathetic if you think I am "relentless." LOL. Please contact Ron and have him to an IP check to confirm this. I mean, it's the least CigaretteMan you could do for me ;)
P.S. This thread is right on. Although I do prefer 93 to 95.
I'll confirm this. I am not you, you are not me.
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Sucky, it's truly pathetic if you think I am "relentless." LOL. Please contact Ron and have him to an IP check to confirm this. I mean, it's the least CigaretteMan you could do for me ;)
P.S. This thread is right on. Although I do prefer 93 to 95.
Bwa ha ha...I have no other accounts here. I'm not like you who has Pobrecito, England_1, Doison and bodybuilder134 as gimmicks.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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False. A gimmick is defined as an account that is used concomitantly with another account as the "main" account. Go find the last time that "Pobrecito" posted ;) He hasn't posted in a long time because I lost the password to that account and hence created a new account. This is the same thing that happened to you, as you created "CigaretteMan." Goodnight.
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False. A gimmick is defined as an account that is used concomitantly with another account as the "main" account. Go find the last time that "Pobrecito" posted ;) He hasn't posted in a long time because I lost the password to that account and hence created a new account. This is the same thing that happened to you, as you created "CigaretteMan." Goodnight.
He's even signed of as '-suckmymucle' on the CigaretteMan account.. :-\ Now he's lying about it.
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He's even signed of as '-suckmymucle' on the CigaretteMan account.. :-\ Now he's lying about it.
He'll never be owned enough times to actually leave. This sucky character is here to stay; he's getbig's resident tormentor of quality posters. In SURVIVOR: GETBIG, this guy would get voted off in the first episode.
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False. A gimmick is defined as an account that is used concomitantly with another account as the "main" account. Go find the last time that "Pobrecito" posted ;) He hasn't posted in a long time because I lost the password to that account and hence created a new account. This is the same thing that happened to you, as you created "CigaretteMan." Goodnight.
No, a gimmick is an account that exists concomitantly with another account. Your Pobrecito account is still active, that is, it hasn't been deactivated by Ron. So yes, it is your gimmick account.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No, a gimmick is an account that exists concomitantly with another account. Your Pobrecito account is still active, that is, it hasn't been deactivated by Ron. So yes, it is your gimmick account.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Nope. The purpose of a gimmick account is to deceive other forum members. I haven't used "pobrecito" in a very long time, due to the fact that I no longer have the password. I have never posted under the pobrecito account once my current account was activated. You on the other hand have posted under "CigaretteMan" while your current account was active. This is the definition of a gimmick. This is irrefutable as you have been caught posting your "SUCKMYMUSCLE" signature while posting under the "CigaretteMan" account. Pwned.
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You on the other hand have posted under "CigaretteMan" while your current account was active.
Prove this, bitch.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Haha good one, you need to have arms these days.
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Good thread mate, your right Dorian in 1995 would win, in fact in my veiw he would of won (in his 95 shape) every Olympia with the possible exception of 98,99, Dorian would of been called out once in 2008 and that would be it MR OLYMPIA AGAIN....No one since or b4 can match dorians rear latspread in 1995 ( from head to toe ) and that was 13 YEARS AGO.
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Not only would Dorian have won this year's Olympia, he would have won every Olympia from 95' to 08'.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Not only would Dorian have won this year's Olympia, he would have won every Olympia from 95' to 08'.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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95 Dorian would have won the following Olympias hands down
2002, 2006, 2007 and 2008, maybe even 2005
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Dorian '95 hasn't been surpassed except perhaps Ronnie '98.
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Not only would Dorian have won this year's Olympia, he would have won every Olympia from 95' to 08'.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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again.
here is your 95 dorian being crushed by Mr. Olympia 1999 (and 98 as well)
so forget 95 to 2008.
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here is your 95 dorian being crushed by Mr. Olympia 1999 (and 98 as well)
so forget 95 to 2008.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so ;)
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again.
here is your 95 dorian being crushed by Mr. Olympia 1999 (and 98 as well)
so forget 95 to 2008.
I love how you post pics of the two and then proclaim that Ronnie is better. Why is Dorian being crushed? Because you say so? Hands clasped is not even a mandatory. Dorian 95' wins hands down because he is thicker and drier at the same weight and has less liabilities.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I love how you post pics of the two and then proclaim that Ronnie is better. Why is Dorian being crushed? Because you say so? Hands clasped is not even a mandatory. Dorian 95' wins hands down because he is thicker and drier at the same weight and has less liabilities.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
What these idiots still can't grasp is all rounds are physique rounds so it doesn't matter what pose it is , Dorian can and did beat EVERYONE in hence the perfect scores all the time , despite not being the most ' symmetrical ' Dorian never lost a symmetry round and why? all rounds are physique rounds
on paper Ronnie should win the front relaxed pose , small waist & hips great taper , etc , however considering all rounds are physique rounds , this means you have to have great balance & proportion AND muscular bulk AND density AND dryness AND posing AND presentation so while Ronnie meet part of the criteria Dorian simply meets ALL of the criteria better than him and everyone he competed with
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This is probably the most impressive BB picture of all time
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=238110.0;attach=278193;image)
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I imagine Shawn Ray cried alittle inside at that very moment :-X
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This is following the tradition I established last year. I made a thread about how Dorian in his 1995 Olympia shape would win the 2007 Olympia, and this holds true for this year's Olympia as wellwww.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2MzE4xdJ4). Dexter Jackson wouldn't even be compared to Dorian because he would have 30 lbs of muscle on Dexter with even superior conditoning, and the runner-up would be several pounds lighter than him while simultaneously being much softer and less proportional.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
dude, its friggin obvious
Dorian was so ahead of his time.....only the great Ronnie comes close....
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It is my personal belief that Dorian in his 1995 form would have won any Olympia from 1998-2008. Had he not been marred by injuries and instead been able to continue, however, I believe he would have easily surpassed his 1995 form and widened the gap.
From 1992 - 1997, there was really no one that pushed Yates. Now before fans of other athletes protest such an assertion, you must consider he context of the comment. Sure, there were gifted competitors during this period, but none of them really pushed Yates, as his victories left a very wide gap between first and second, to make no mention of the gap between first and other placings. As of 1998, Ronnie came into his own. Knowing Dorian's mentality and assuming he had remained healthy, he would have raised his game even more so than in years prior. Yates was a self motivated man, who even without a real adversary to push him, pushed himself like no other man before him. It is only logical that any highly motivated competitor would aspire raise his own game in the face of a potential threat to the title. Ronnie would have served to produce a rivalry that would have aspired Yates to even greater heights, I believe. A rivalry that would have been far greater than the Jay/Ronnie years, that beyond a point became somewhat redundant, even with the excitement of Jay's eventual win.
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Shredded and Huge bodybuilder letting his brothers in iron know when the olympia was going to be broadcasted......
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"are we on? ok."
Who the fuck is he talking to?!
lol. he is the one starting his webcam no one else hahaha