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Title: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 05, 2008, 05:43:38 PM
Seem pretty similar on paper  ???
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: QuakerOats on October 05, 2008, 05:44:45 PM
both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible. :D
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: 240 is Back on October 05, 2008, 05:45:14 PM
fewer carbs on keto?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: wavelength on October 05, 2008, 05:45:40 PM
Seem pretty similar on paper  ???

I think Keto is the first phase of Atkins diet.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: Bast000 on October 05, 2008, 05:46:49 PM
fewer carbs on keto?

yes
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: wavelength on October 05, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
fewer carbs on keto?

As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: 240 is Back on October 05, 2008, 05:51:35 PM
As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.

I did keto like 4 years ago.  I really liked it for the frst few days.  Dropped 8 pounds of water in 2 days.  Earing bacon and eggs nonstop - that rocked too.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 05, 2008, 05:52:14 PM
both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible. :D

Dave, we have discussed this many times. When you give me grief about the way I look you are brutally self owning yourself. You = obese, Me = in decent shape.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: ManBearPig... on October 05, 2008, 05:53:18 PM
both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible. :D

i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: Bast000 on October 05, 2008, 05:53:51 PM
i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

meltdown
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: wavelength on October 05, 2008, 05:54:16 PM
I did keto like 4 years ago.  I really liked it for the frst few days.  Dropped 8 pounds of water in 2 days.  Earing bacon and eggs nonstop - that rocked too.

I also tried it. Lost a lot of strength and muscle mass.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 05, 2008, 05:54:19 PM
As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.

So on keto you would just have carbs with breakfast and then your only carbs would be from veggies for the rest of the day? what about post workout?
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: QuakerOats on October 05, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?
hahahaha, maybe if he's 6'9" or with a 50 pound concrete block taped to him.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 05, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

Not sure how heavy Quakerfat is, but I'm 225 at 5'11 at the mo. Lost 5 pounds and the last couple of weeks. getting lean for summer!
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: wavelength on October 05, 2008, 05:57:37 PM
So on keto you would just have carbs with breakfast and then your only carbs would be from veggies for the rest of the day? what about post workout?

Keto as I know it is practically no carbs. Only a few watery veggies are allowed.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 06:50:37 PM
keto refers to ketosis, which is a metabolic state where a big portion of your brain switches from glucose over to ketones (by product of fat metabolism) for fuel.

Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: Go 4 It on October 05, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
Keto is no carbs, at all...just trace carbs in certain foods.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 05, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
the keto diet palumbo uses focuses on healthy fats, trace carbs from nuts and veggies and high protein w/ a cheat meal once a week-keeps insulin dormant

the atkins diet and regular keto diet includes a lot of non heart healthy fats as well-like bacon and butter etc
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 05, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: Go 4 It on October 05, 2008, 07:19:28 PM
The keto-type of diet is usefull in certain situations, like a bodybuilder who has been bulking all offseason and needs to diet to get into contest shape this would be great, or if you want to cut up for something like spring break, but it's pretty hard to stay on this diet for long periods and lift.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 05, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle
no u are partly wrong about the muscle loss-as long as u have the right amt of protein fats and your training is good u will not lose muscle
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 05, 2008, 07:25:30 PM
no u are partly wrong about the muscle loss-as long as u have the right amt of protein fats and your training is good u will not lose muscle
low carb diets sustained for more than 3 days = 30% weight loss coming from muscle
I hope this is not true, cuz I have to diet my ass off to win Getbig III  >:(
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: WillGrant on October 05, 2008, 07:38:02 PM
Dave, we have discussed this many times. When you give me grief about the way I look you are brutally self owning yourself. You = obese, Me = in decent shape.

Hope this helps.
Truth...
Why is FatMan even here when its obvious he does not train?  ???
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 05, 2008, 07:57:43 PM
Truth...
Why is FatMan even here when its obvious he does not train?  ???
he likes hiding behind his computer where he is "safe from society" or so he thinks  ::)
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 08:24:13 PM
Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle
  well on Atkins diet you can enter into and out of ketosis quite a bit. so the two are one in the same really. 

a zero starch diet is not "shittty". in fact its very healthy and reverse allot of metabolic disorders. its very 'shitty' for anabolism, true, but for fat loss in obese individuals its very effective.

one thing people don't realize is that 'ketosis' is not some magical fat loss state. one ,meal containing zero starch and some meat protein will alter your metabolic hormones to dictate pretty much entire body fat metabolism. switching into 'ketosis' spares another 20 or so g of glucose, but other than that it has no benefit (besides psychology) over a simple low carb diet. a zero starch diet with high veggies intake is healthier and more efficient at burning fat than a similar diet without the veggies. but many people don't have the mental fortitude to diet on low carbs unless they are in ketosis.
Title: Re: Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?
Post by: wavelength on October 06, 2008, 01:38:37 AM
no u are partly wrong about the muscle loss-as long as u have the right amt of protein fats and your training is good u will not lose muscle

That's not my experience.