Whats the difference between the atkins diet and the keto diet?

[nzmusclemonster]

Seem pretty similar on paper 

[QuakerOats]

both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible.

[240 is Back]

fewer carbs on keto?

[wavelength]

Seem pretty similar on paper 

I think Keto is the first phase of Atkins diet.

[Bast000]

fewer carbs on keto?

yes

[wavelength]

fewer carbs on keto?

As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.

[240 is Back]

As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.

I did keto like 4 years ago.  I really liked it for the frst few days.  Dropped 8 pounds of water in 2 days.  Earing bacon and eggs nonstop - that rocked too.

[nzmusclemonster]

both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible.

Dave, we have discussed this many times. When you give me grief about the way I look you are brutally self owning yourself. You = obese, Me = in decent shape.

Hope this helps.

[ManBearPig...]

both will make you even skinnier than this if that's even possible.

i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

[Bast000]

i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

meltdown

[wavelength]

I did keto like 4 years ago.  I really liked it for the frst few days.  Dropped 8 pounds of water in 2 days.  Earing bacon and eggs nonstop - that rocked too.

I also tried it. Lost a lot of strength and muscle mass.

[nzmusclemonster]

As far as I can remember, Atkins diet starts out with a Keto diet and then gradually re-introduces carbs until a maintenance phase is reached.

So on keto you would just have carbs with breakfast and then your only carbs would be from veggies for the rest of the day? what about post workout?

[QuakerOats]

i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

hahahaha, maybe if he's 6'9" or with a 50 pound concrete block taped to him.

[nzmusclemonster]

i thought it was proven he weighs 10 lbs less than you?

Not sure how heavy Quakerfat is, but I'm 225 at 5'11 at the mo. Lost 5 pounds and the last couple of weeks. getting lean for summer!

[wavelength]

So on keto you would just have carbs with breakfast and then your only carbs would be from veggies for the rest of the day? what about post workout?

Keto as I know it is practically no carbs. Only a few watery veggies are allowed.

[tbombz]

keto refers to ketosis, which is a metabolic state where a big portion of your brain switches from glucose over to ketones (by product of fat metabolism) for fuel.

[Go 4 It]

Keto is no carbs, at all...just trace carbs in certain foods.

[NaturalWonder83]

the keto diet palumbo uses focuses on healthy fats, trace carbs from nuts and veggies and high protein w/ a cheat meal once a week-keeps insulin dormant

the atkins diet and regular keto diet includes a lot of non heart healthy fats as well-like bacon and butter etc

[ASJChaotic]

Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle

[Go 4 It]

The keto-type of diet is usefull in certain situations, like a bodybuilder who has been bulking all offseason and needs to diet to get into contest shape this would be great, or if you want to cut up for something like spring break, but it's pretty hard to stay on this diet for long periods and lift.

[NaturalWonder83]

Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle

no u are partly wrong about the muscle loss-as long as u have the right amt of protein fats and your training is good u will not lose muscle

[ASJChaotic]

no u are partly wrong about the muscle loss-as long as u have the right amt of protein fats and your training is good u will not lose muscle

low carb diets sustained for more than 3 days = 30% weight loss coming from muscle
I hope this is not true, cuz I have to diet my ass off to win Getbig III 

[WillGrant]

Dave, we have discussed this many times. When you give me grief about the way I look you are brutally self owning yourself. You = obese, Me = in decent shape.

Hope this helps.

Truth...
Why is FatMan even here when its obvious he does not train? 

[ASJChaotic]

Truth...
Why is FatMan even here when its obvious he does not train? 

he likes hiding behind his computer where he is "safe from society" or so he thinks 

[tbombz]

Keto= no carbs (must be in state of ketosis in which fat is your fuel)
Atkins= low carbs



both shitty
from both 30% of the "loss" is from muscle

  well on Atkins diet you can enter into and out of ketosis quite a bit. so the two are one in the same really. 

a zero starch diet is not "shittty". in fact its very healthy and reverse allot of metabolic disorders. its very 'shitty' for anabolism, true, but for fat loss in obese individuals its very effective.

one thing people don't realize is that 'ketosis' is not some magical fat loss state. one ,meal containing zero starch and some meat protein will alter your metabolic hormones to dictate pretty much entire body fat metabolism. switching into 'ketosis' spares another 20 or so g of glucose, but other than that it has no benefit (besides psychology) over a simple low carb diet. a zero starch diet with high veggies intake is healthier and more efficient at burning fat than a similar diet without the veggies. but many people don't have the mental fortitude to diet on low carbs unless they are in ketosis.