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Title: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 05, 2008, 10:12:33 PM
hello,

What's the best way of Using Glutamine ??? When, How much, and with what??

Thank you
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 11:28:09 PM
never, its useless for physique enhancement...(not orally available)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: ARAGO on October 05, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
wrong. once your stomach is saturated it is bio available.

30g/day for the ordinary 200 pounder will do well.

most of us use it.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 05, 2008, 11:48:36 PM
wrong. once your stomach is saturated it is bio available.

30g/day for the ordinary 200 pounder will do well.

most of us use it.
proof?

if I'm wrong then i apologize.

"us"...are you insinuating your a pro bodybuilder or a just a bodybuilder?



Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Rimbaud on October 06, 2008, 05:40:06 AM
Through an IV.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: DK II on October 06, 2008, 06:19:20 AM
4g before bed with magnesium, b-vitamins and zinc.

helps sleep and regeneration.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Deicide on October 06, 2008, 06:24:23 AM
Boosts immune system.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2008, 11:24:34 AM
it does not have very many positive effects when taken orally, it becomes a substrate for gluconeogenesis.

ORALLY

immune=nothing
ergogenic=nothing
digestive issues=possibly


orally this stuff is useless, possibly for glutamate regeneration and downstream gabaergic activity which is related to sleep.

ARAGO do you have any evidence, and what do you mean by saturated?
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2008, 03:41:59 PM
What about injectable glutamine since it bypasses the digestive tract?
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2008, 04:23:11 PM
What about injectable glutamine since it bypasses the digestive tract?

yes iv had many benefits
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
yes iv had many benefits


Might be interesting.  I've seen a lot more injectable aminos start popping up lately.  I pin enough as it is and not really sure if it's worth adding the extra scar tissue or not :)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 04:55:35 PM
never, its useless for physique enhancement...(not orally available)

I don't think it's a useless supplement because I have used but I'm asking here to see how the others use. I mean the best way.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
wrong. once your stomach is saturated it is bio available.

30g/day for the ordinary 200 pounder will do well.

most of us use it.

When do you take those 30 g?? Are you taking them with waxy maize like you do with Creatine to push to your muscle faster?? 
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 04:59:08 PM
Through an IV.

I'm sorry but what do you mean??
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
4g before bed with magnesium, b-vitamins and zinc.

helps sleep and regeneration.

I'll try this and thanks for your help. Do you take another time like before and after workout??

Thank you
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 05:05:05 PM
it does not have very many positive effects when taken orally, it becomes a substrate for gluconeogenesis.

ORALLY

immune=nothing
ergogenic=nothing
digestive issues=possibly


orally this stuff is useless, possibly for glutamate regeneration and downstream gabaergic activity which is related to sleep.

ARAGO do you have any evidence, and what do you mean by saturated?


yes iv had many benefits

What about injectable glutamine since it bypasses the digestive tract?

Might be interesting.  I've seen a lot more injectable aminos start popping up lately.  I pin enough as it is and not really sure if it's worth adding the extra scar tissue or not :)

guys wait a minute. injectable glutamine and amini acids ???? WTF

This the first time reading this. Is not illegal like steroid or we can buy from any where????

Please explain all that to me.

Thank you 
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 06, 2008, 05:26:02 PM
Hippocrates.

glutamine is a useless supplement when you take it orally. it does not get absorbed by the digestive tract and it serves no purpouse for bodybuilding.

thats why they are discusiing other routes of administration.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2008, 05:38:30 PM
What about injectable glutamine since it bypasses the digestive tract?


guys wait a minute. injectable glutamine and amini acids ???? WTF

This the first time reading this. Is not illegal like steroid or we can buy from any where????

Please explain all that to me.

Thank you 

Yea they are completely legal, you can't buy them anywhere, special research sites sell them.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 06:06:58 PM
Hippocrates.

glutamine is a useless supplement when you take it orally. it does not get absorbed by the digestive tract and it serves no purpouse for bodybuilding.

thats why they are discusiing other routes of administration.

Yea they are completely legal, you can't buy them anywhere, special research sites sell them.

If it's legal why don't you post the website for the product so I can try it :-)

I really would love to know more about this and learn more.

If injectable glutamine is legal, why injectable B-12 is illegal ???????? !!!!!!!

Thank you so much for your help
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: elite_lifter on October 06, 2008, 06:27:47 PM
4g before bed with magnesium, b-vitamins and zinc.

helps sleep and regeneration.
I don't take it b4 sleep. I've read it causes the brain to become active, not what I want when trying to fall asleep. 5g b4 training and 5 after. Great for the immune system, and recovery from training among many other functions in the body. Not going to grow muscle taking it though.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 06, 2008, 06:57:03 PM
I don't take it b4 sleep. I've read it causes the brain to become active, not what I want when trying to fall asleep. 5g b4 training and 5 after. Great for the immune system, and recovery from training among many other functions in the body. Not going to grow muscle taking it though.
nah man its good for gut health because some of it gets sucked up in the stomach but other wise its completely useless..glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body BUT oral glutamine powder doesnt even reach the body.. its a nice idea...like taking testosterone enanthate tablets or something like that...but none would get absorb, just like glutamine doesnt get absorb..
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2008, 07:00:46 PM
nah man its good for gut health because some of it gets sucked up in the stomach but other wise its completely useless..glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body BUT oral glutamine powder doesnt even reach the body.. its a nice idea...like taking testosterone enanthate tablets or something like that...but none would get absorb, just like glutamine doesnt get absorb..

the enteric system uses glutamine as a source of energy, like you said it may be good for digestion.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 07:08:25 PM
nah man its good for gut health because some of it gets sucked up in the stomach but other wise its completely useless..glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body BUT oral glutamine powder doesnt even reach the body.. its a nice idea...like taking testosterone enanthate tablets or something like that...but none would get absorb, just like glutamine doesnt get absorb..

Have you tried it ?? I mean did you try to inject glutamine? form where can I get that?

Thanks for giving us some time.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 06, 2008, 07:09:55 PM
no i dont use any glutamine at all.

just whatever is contained in my protein sources..(beef chicken fish eggs whey)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 07:13:34 PM
no i dont use any glutamine at all.

just whatever is contained in my protein sources..(beef chicken fish eggs whey)

so you are taking your glutamine orally from beef, chicken, ..... etc because you are eating all those things to get your glutamine. So what's the different if you take as a supplement powder?? It's like I'm eating beef to get the glutamine  ;)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 06, 2008, 07:16:57 PM
so you are taking your glutamine orally from beef, chicken, ..... etc because you are eating all those things to get your glutamine. So what's the different if you take as a supplement powder?? It's like I'm eating beef to get the glutamine  ;)
no no no its very very different bro.  the glutamine in a complete protien is different than taking glutamine alone...
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 07:19:56 PM
no no no its very very different bro.  the glutamine in a complete protien is different than taking glutamine alone...

cool bro. I just want you to know that I'm here to learn and educate myself more. so can you help me by supporting your answer by a research or a website talking about what you said. I really trust your answer to me but I want to learn more and support every information I have.

Thank you bro
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 06, 2008, 07:24:46 PM
to be honest i dont fully understand the differences behind single amino acid metabolism and complete protein metabolism. its really complictaed.

necrosis does maybe he could help you out
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 06, 2008, 07:28:04 PM
Thanks tbombz

We will wait others to share their information with us about this topic.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Princess L on October 06, 2008, 07:50:19 PM
Through an IV.

I'm sorry but what do you mean??

What Rim & Nec mean is that glutamine administered via an IV has been studied with positive results in bed-ridden hospital  patients (such as burn victims).  It's not an effective supplement taken orally and I don't believe either one of them is suggesting an individual inject it into themselves.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Deicide on October 07, 2008, 01:55:58 AM
Glutamine powder improves sleep quality. I notice a difference.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 07, 2008, 02:43:09 AM
Waste of money and time.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2008, 05:41:49 AM
Glutamine powder improves sleep quality. I notice a difference.

possibly, its being studied actually.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: TerminalPower on October 07, 2008, 07:38:59 PM
possibly, its being studied actually.

It helps me out that is for sure.  Funny thing is I never knew this until I read this post. 
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: laurion on October 07, 2008, 08:12:48 PM
Prepare yourself for the facts as I see them.....

"Supplements" help .001% nobody ever got huge because they took glutamine orally or via injection.  Food is the only anabolic you need as a natural bb'er.  With exception to normal vitamins, fish oils, some joint support and maybe liquid amino's post workout i say don't waste your money.

And furthermore I guarantee I will never change my mind on this issue...........












































unless I get an endorsement deal  ;)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Hippocrates1985 on October 07, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
possibly, its being studied actually.

That means, my friend, it's not a worthless supplements because everyone want to sleep very well to get bigger.  8)
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: laurion on October 07, 2008, 08:29:55 PM
.001%
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2008, 06:48:54 AM
That means, my friend, it's not a worthless supplements because everyone want to sleep very well to get bigger.  8)

there are more effective and cheaper supplements that aid in sleep. However, technically you are right, the possibility that it may do something makes it not worthless :D

i was pretty much referring to body composition.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: tbombz on October 08, 2008, 08:21:33 AM
unless I get an endorsement deal  ;)
;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Tigerman on February 18, 2009, 10:24:20 AM
For what is worth...
I actually benefited from taking glutamine. I felt stronger at the gym  and my muscles seemed fuller. Pretty much what I was getting from creatine but without the water retention effect.
I was taking 5 g in the morning and 5 before going to bed (on workout days 5g before and 5g after).
After suspending glutamine, I was feeling weaker and less full and actually lost 5 pounds in 3 weeks.
How much of this was placebo effect?
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: DK II on February 19, 2009, 04:08:51 AM
For what is worth...
I actually benefited from taking glutamine. I felt stronger at the gym  and my muscles seemed fuller. Pretty much what I was getting from creatine but without the water retention effect.
I was taking 5 g in the morning and 5 before going to bed (on workout days 5g before and 5g after).
After suspending glutamine, I was feeling weaker and less full and actually lost 5 pounds in 3 weeks.
How much of this was placebo effect?

you must be a monster. Or a genetic freak.

How much was Placebo? all of it.

Nothing against glutamine,i take it myself, but it doesn't help with lifting at all, and not comparable to creatine.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: Lynchie on February 24, 2009, 01:33:51 AM
Been taking Glutamine on and off for 10 years now. I'd use some and not bother again for a year or so. I can safely say that every single time I seem to take Glutamine, I grow, recover faster and my muscles feels harder. It's like anything really, right now, Glutamine is not the flavour of the month. Just wait a bit and an article will soon appear in Flex or Musclemag "Glutamine: What you may have been missing out on" or something similar. It happened to creatine, creatine loading, all was crap at one point, now it's cool again. People seem to pick sides very quickly because of an article they read or a big guy they spoke to in the gym. I have had people try to convince me in very eloquent language, supported by very selective research, that anabolic steroids are all placebo and don't really work.
I go by trial and error. Glutamine works great for me, it could do the same for you. Try it, don't let some nameless on the internet decide for you.
Title: Re: Using Glutamine ???
Post by: JasonH on February 24, 2009, 06:07:33 AM
Wow, after reading all this I didn't realise Glutamine as so useless.

Having said that though I used it myself about five years ago and it did absolutely nothing for me so I can understand why people don't rate it.