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Title: **Official debate thread** (Full Debate Video Added)
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:13:06 PM
So far nothing exciting. Mccain looks a bit old and weak.

Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: 2ND COMING on October 07, 2008, 06:14:05 PM
he just looked the black in the face and said, " i betcha didnt even know who they were before this"

lmao.....
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: tonymctones on October 07, 2008, 06:15:25 PM
i like how obama dodged the who would you replace paulson with question.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on October 07, 2008, 06:19:58 PM
i like how obama dodged the who would you replace paulson with question.

Dude, this is all bullshit. Both these guys are GARBAGE. They are just talking the talk, it's so transparent it makes me sick to my stomch. Can't watch or listen anymore.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
Haha, epic nervous people asking questions.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: tonymctones on October 07, 2008, 06:21:54 PM
Haha, epic nervous people asking questions.
LOL noticed that too
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:23:07 PM
Recent news headlines indicated to me that Mccain was gonna come out and kick some mulatto Obama ass. What gives?
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: MB_722 on October 07, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
Dude, this is all bullshit. Both these guys are GARBAGE. They are just talking the talk, it's so transparent it makes me sick to my stomch. Can't watch or listen anymore.

 :D

co-sign
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:39:08 PM
Wow none of these two clowns knows anything about economy. Epic ass kissing to the american people.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:41:37 PM
Avoiding questions like a rabies infested monkey avoiding an anal probing.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: tonymctones on October 07, 2008, 06:45:34 PM
Avoiding questions like a rabies infested monkey avoiding an anal probing.
lol i almost spit my drink out when i read this
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on October 07, 2008, 06:47:32 PM
Avoiding questions like a rabies infested monkey avoiding an anal probing.

Its their motto: Answer the question you wished they asked, not the one that's been asked.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: TrapsMcLats on October 07, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
McCain sounds like a scared, confused old man.  "or something like that..." yeah, thats the kind of paraphrasing we want to hear from a presidential hopefuly, HA!  VOTE OBAMA!
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 06:55:59 PM
This election is flushed down the toilet for Mccain.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: TrapsMcLats on October 07, 2008, 07:02:53 PM
Obama is PWNING mclame
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: 240 is Back on October 07, 2008, 07:03:37 PM
mccain is pissed off.

obama is very collected.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:08:01 PM
Can you imagine John Mccain giving the state of the union in 4 years?

Given his current shape, he'll be a skeleton by then.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: TrapsMcLats on October 07, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
"The McLame, the new burger at mcdonalds:  dry, unfulfilling, and not as tastey as it was 8 years ago.  Wrapped in a casket like bun and sprinkled with  fingernails of dead and or raped vietnamese children."
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
"The McLame, the new burger at mcdonalds:  dry, unfulfilling, and not as tastey as it was 8 years ago.  Wrapped in a casket like bun and sprinkled with the fingernails of dead and or raped vietnamese children."

LOL

Brutal.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: MB_722 on October 07, 2008, 07:15:42 PM
hey did mccain just deny about the bomb bomb iran thing 3 seconds ago??
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: MB_722 on October 07, 2008, 07:16:36 PM
this reminds me of olberman

why wouldn't he share with the present administration on how to get bin laden?

Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: TrapsMcLats on October 07, 2008, 07:16:53 PM
dude, 8 years ago i really liked McCain, i would've voted for him over bush or gore (i voted for nader because i hate(d) those two so much) without thinking about it.  8 years later he is a completely different person and politician, and has sold his soul to the right wingers/ evangelical christians.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
OUCH sensitive topic about Israel.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
disagree with both of them on Russia, other than that, McCain has looked desperate in his attacks while Obama has addressed policy.  And what's with McCain's lame comments, "nail jello on the wall"  and did he say he would place our medical records online?  WTF was that or did I hear him wrong?
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: TrapsMcLats on October 07, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
did he say that about our medical records?? i must've missed it. 
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:29:13 PM
I heard it too.

LOL lucky me I'm not an american.  ;D
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
McCain lied about what Obama said on sitting down with Iran, but that's been covered here many times.  I can't believe McCain still thinks he can say it.  and again, Achmeninjad never said he he wanted to destroy Israel and the holocaust crap is crap.  If Iran wanted to kill Jews why haven't they ever wiped out the Jewish communities in Iran?  McCain is a fearmongering dipshit.  In other words, he's a neocon and we've learned where their fearmongering gets us...
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: 2ND COMING on October 07, 2008, 07:32:54 PM
so wheres the dirt on both sides?

no ayers? keating?

Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Buffgeek on October 07, 2008, 07:33:36 PM
McCain lied about what Obama said on sitting down with Iran, but that's been covered here many times.  I can't believe McCain still thinks he can say it.  and again, Achmeninjad never said he he wanted to destroy Israel and the holocaust crap is crap.  If Iran wanted to kill Jews why haven't they ever wiped out the Jewish communities in Iran?  McCain is a fearmongering dipshit.  In other words, he's a neocon and we've learned where their fearmongering gets us...

Hugo. You have seen this right?

Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 07:34:28 PM
did he say that about our medical records?? i must've missed it. 
I could have swore I heard him say it but it went by fast so there might have been some other point to it.  Sounded like he said it but I need to go back and listen to that answer again.  I did a doubletake WTF and lost his points when I heard him mention puting medical records online.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:35:05 PM
LOOOOL they were in the way of the prompter!!
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2008, 07:35:26 PM
(http://signoraggio.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/ron_paul_photo_4.jpg)
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 07:35:28 PM
Hugo. You have seen this right?

search our discussions here on it.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: lovemonkey on October 07, 2008, 07:37:42 PM
Haha what the hell is the deal about the entire audience having the same model of camera?

I smell sponsorship.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Grape Ape on October 07, 2008, 07:44:16 PM
This debate was incredibly boring.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
This debate was incredibly boring.
It sure wasn't a game changer lol.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Grape Ape on October 07, 2008, 08:16:14 PM
It sure wasn't a game changer lol.

True.   I guess the only way to get some real fun in these things would be to have Hannity question Obama, and Olberman question McCain.

Then we'd really see who could handle some heat.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: w8tlftr on October 07, 2008, 08:20:13 PM
They both gave very scripted answers.

But two new ALARMING items came up...

online medical records... wtf?

the government buying up mortgages? fuck... didn't McCain just rail on Obama about excessive government spending?

oh yeah... they both support nuclear power and off shore drilling.... that can't make the greens happy.


Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 08:25:21 PM
True.   I guess the only way to get some real fun in these things would be to have Hannity question Obama, and Olberman question McCain.

Then we'd really see who could handle some heat.
well I wouldn't want to see a negative bullshit session right when the country is in chaos either and that's all that would be.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
wow, McCain did say it: "Let's put health records online, that will reduce medical errors"  Who wants their health records online?
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Colossus_500 on October 07, 2008, 09:28:45 PM
I know I'm going to get roasted for saying this, but....up to this point, I think the forum at the Saddleback Church hosted by Pastor Rick Warren is undoubtedly given the American voter the best inside look at who the candidates are as individuals.  These debates that we've seen after that point are all talking points.  Just like tonight.  I thought the town hall forum was supposed to be question by real people, not cherry-picked political talking point questions that we would hear from other journalist like we saw tonight.   

On to tonight's debate.  I think Barack Obama proved himself to be like one of the guys that I work with...someone we call the "Teflon Man"...meaning nothing stuck to him, even when the evidence points directly to him.  Now, in all fairness to Sen. Obama, it wasn't his job to go out and throw punches tonight (though I think he had a couple of nice hay-makers in there).  He just needed to duck and dodge, and that's just what he did.  John McCain threw some serious shots tonight.  None of them really stuck tonight, but they're going to be playing these shots over the next couple of weeks like a gift that just keeps on giving.  He did establish some differences between the two of them.  Whether or not people pick up on those differences is the biggest question in my mind. 

I would give the edge to McCain for the same reason that folks say Sen. Biden beat Gov. Palin, which was on substance and at a minimum, the appearance of delivering facts.  The fact-checkers were given quite a bit of information to follow up on from Sen. McCain. 

I truly thought McCain did a better job of distinguishing the difference between the two candidates, which is something I think the undecided voters need to see. 
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
lol @ the limo of silence :D
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Colossus_500 on October 07, 2008, 09:47:40 PM
wow, McCain did say it: "Let's put health records online, that will reduce medical errors"  Who wants their health records online?
That's actually tech talk for putting the medical information into the electronic era.  My wife used to work in the Veterans' Administrative Hospital system or the VA where they have all the medical records within the computer system...no paperwork. Lots of benefits with going electronic with medical records...accuracy and cost-reduction being the two most obvious.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on October 07, 2008, 09:51:13 PM


I would give the edge to McCain for the same reason that folks say Sen. Biden beat Gov. Palin, which was on substance and at a minimum, the appearance of delivering facts.



 Good luck at the FEMA camp.

 P.S. Don't shower.

Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2008, 10:14:30 PM
That's actually tech talk for putting the medical information into the electronic era.  My wife used to work in the Veterans' Administrative Hospital system or the VA where they have all the medical records within the computer system...no paperwork. Lots of benefits with going electronic with medical records...accuracy and cost-reduction being the two most obvious.
Online has to be the wrong word.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2008, 11:02:07 AM
I was not crazy about the performance of either candidate.  It was by and large a rehash of the first debate.  I agree with those who have said it sounded like a talking points debate.  They both sounded scripted.

McCain refusing to shake Obama's hand was really classless.  I can understand being upset, particularly if someone is challenging your character, distorting your record, etc., but you simply can't do that when the entire country is watching.   
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: w8tlftr on October 08, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
wow, McCain did say it: "Let's put health records online, that will reduce medical errors"  Who wants their health records online?

They BOTH said it.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 08, 2008, 02:15:36 PM
They BOTH said it.
no he didn't, Obama didn't say he would place them "online"  I don't them on computer either because they're hackable but online is way worse.
Title: Re: **Official debate thread**
Post by: w8tlftr on October 08, 2008, 02:41:35 PM
no he didn't, Obama didn't say he would place them "online"  I don't them on computer either because they're hackable but online is way worse.

Yes he did.

He said he wanted online medical records to reduce medical errors - he said it first.

Then McCain said the same thing.

In case you forgot...

And we're going to do it by investing in prevention. We're going to do it by making sure that we use information technology so that medical records are actually on computers instead of you filling forms out in triplicate when you go to the hospital. That will reduce medical errors and reduce costs. -- Barack Obama

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/presidential.debate.transcript/

Now, you're probably thinking that putting them on computers isn't the same as putting them online. Well, it is. It's not like your medical data is sitting on some 5" floppy drive that's shoved into a desktop PC. It's stored on a server that connected to a network so doctors can easily access and share information. That's online.