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OUCHIE
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http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores
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the average "joe six pack" can relate to these scores, which will help her come election day :-\
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What a shocker..... ::)
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Oh no. If you are voting in this abomination of an election, the choice is pretty simple.
Vote for the smart(er) guys.
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hahahahahhahahahh
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Ask "The Coach" he will tell you how smart she is
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Not that it matters but shit......... :-X
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Under 850? I think even W scored higher than that.
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These types of people are the ones they want to help push
www.amerocurrency.com
Although they can't be as easily to be programmed as the guys who are genius's, they are under achievers/partiers who want to be drinking martini's with the smart people...They are mostly driven by money/power because they don't have the intelligence to really be part of the think tanks and what not...
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I an NOT a Palin fan, but what are the chances that is real?
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Under 850? I think even W scored higher than that.
BWAHAHAHAHAHahahhahahhahahhaha.... She's got the dumbshit vote... only problem....there are a lot of dumbshits....
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BWAHAHAHAHAHahahhahahhahahhaha.... She's got the dumbshit vote... only problem....there are a lot of dumbshits....
LOL.... Many dumbshits in America, the majority in CA.
I an NOT a Palin fan, but what are the chances that is real?
Im not vouching for authenticity, but if the score is real she is in pretty sad shape.
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These types of people are the ones they want to help push
www.amerocurrency.com
Although they can't be as easily to be programmed as the guys who are genius's, they are under achievers/partiers who want to be drinking martini's with the smart people...They are mostly driven by money/power because they don't have the intelligence to really be part of the think tanks and what not...
There's something to this theory....
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Damn, I got a 1050 on a trial run and a 1250 on my final.
She really isn't that bright at under 850
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Bush's SAT score was 1206 (566 Verbal, 640 Math).
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wheres obama score?? or bidens? lets compare to be fair...i think both are fakes... we need to look at other parties... ron paul..... no more rep or dem but other parties. i wish as americans we can look at other parties, but it wont happen. its either rep or dem.... both are fake as hell. we need a new party. it wont happen in my life time. either u choose rep or dem.
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wheres obama score?? or bidens? lets compare to be fair...i think both are fakes... we need to look at other parties... ron paul..... no more rep or dem but other parties. i wish as americans we can look at other parties, but it wont happen. its either rep or dem.... both are fake as hell. we need a new party. it wont happen in my life time. either u choose rep or dem.
Yep.....unfortunately.
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wheres obama score??
need a little higher than 850 to get into Colombia and then Harvard Law
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depends... in america if u are a minority or a woman gifts are given. ive seen in it in old SBC now ATT... women would fail test, yet they pass them..... because they are women.... hmmmm... how i know this? my sister....
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Dubai, India!
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Damn, I got a 1050 on a trial run and a 1250 on my final.
She really isn't that bright at under 850
Don't fool yourself...Its just means that you tried and she didn't....She placed 2nd in a beauty pagent without really trying and you have been on bbodybuilding boards for years and still place last and get laughed at on stage at every show you pretend to do...
Your a follower Vince and she is a leader...Your the guy talking with Mike Menzer while Arnold is laughing in the corner high as a fucking kite...
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I thought SAT scores in the 80s were multiples of 10.
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need a little higher than 850 to get into Colombia and then Harvard Law
The 75th percentile for Columbia admissions is:
Reading 760
Math 780
Writing 750
That is the new testing methods.
With the old high mark of 1600 total, it was possible and very common to get a perfect score of 1600 and still not be accepted to Columbia and other Ivy league schools.
I'd have to wonder if that listing for Palin is accurate. That is a very poor score...
The average score that year was around 1,000.
A score of 850 on the SAT would have corresponded to about a 17 on the ACT. I don't even think you're allowed to play college athletics with that score.
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OUCHIE
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http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores
What does this prove?
An SAT score from 1982?
How about showing some Ronald Reagan movies from the 40's and what that has to do with anything.
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it does give insight into the inherent intellectual capability- and somewhat into the focus and discipline of a person.
i.e. some clever people who dont study still do quite well, and other not so clevers who work hard can do very well.
BUT, if you do crap, you are either dumb/average and slack, or work really hard and a thick head.
You dont get smarter as you get older- you learn more, but you dont necessarily retain it. Thats why IQ tests apply from age 15 onwards and dont change anty more than 5% throughout an adult's life- at least until senility.
So in summary, if your IQ indicated that you're a moron when you do your SATs, then you'll always be a moron.
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What does this prove?
An SAT score from 1982?
How about showing some Ronald Reagan movies from the 40's and what that has to do with anything.
it proves she's an idiot
my friend in high school who never ever did homework and used to smoke weed with me everyday while at school got a 1560 and I got a 1200----------to get an 850 you reallly have to be Trying to be stupid ;)
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it proves she's an idiot
my friend in high school who never ever did homework and used to smoke weed with me everyday while at school got a 1560 and I got a 1200----------to get an 850 you reallly have to be Trying to be stupid ;)
That's like saying "I could only bench 150 in high school so that means I'm not strong."
Even if you're benching 400 now.
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That's like saying "I could only bench 150 in high school so that means I'm not strong."
Even if you're benching 400 now.
wrong. you dont suddenly get smarter. you are either smart, or dumb. your ability to deal with concepts and issues doesnt change. Your life experience accumulates..thats it. for dumb asses, much of the lessons learnt during life goes in one ear and out the next.
HTH.
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i'm no palin fan. there was a guy who scored a 13 on the act, made it into college (colorado state univ) and was a complete f up (pot smokers ala wackdaddy and his female ghost) but grad. prof thought he wasnt a focused individual but had talent. guy ended up completing his ph.d. (immunology) and is respected guy in his field in colorado.
you cant count on sats/acts. if there are things going on (esp negative) in a person's life...then a bad score usually comes from lack of prep. basically...someone just walks in and takes it.
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i'm no palin fan. there was a guy who scored a 13 on the act, made it into college (colorado state univ) and was a complete f up (pot smokers ala wackdaddy and his female ghost) but grad. prof thought he wasnt a focused individual but had talent. guy ended up completing his ph.d. (immunology) and is respected guy in his field in colorado.
you cant count on sats/acts. if there are things going on (esp negative) in a person's life...then a bad score usually comes from lack of prep. basically...someone just walks in and takes it.
yep thats true. no argument. but how bad does life have to be- and for how long, to score such a low SAT?
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That's like saying "I could only bench 150 in high school so that means I'm not strong."
Even if you're benching 400 now.
It's not a measure of acquired knowledge. It is a measure of intelligence.
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yep thats true. no argument. but how bad does life have to be- and for how long, to score such a low SAT?
850-900 is probably equal to at 13 act. i took the act once in 11th grade and got a 19, didnt bother with it again. in 1982 a 13 would have gotten you into a public university which it did in her case. all this BS aside she has done extremely well to become a governor of a state...no matter how small. the vp nonsense is on mccain for bring this lady into the s##t to try and steal an election for his last story before he kicks the bucket.
basically with an 850 she has outdone all the ivy league grads on this site and millionaires. think about that for moment. has anyone on here done more than this woman? :-\
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The average american isn't the smartest person around :-\
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It's not a measure of acquired knowledge. It is a measure of intelligence.
I've known plenty of people who did not score well on their SAT's who were intelligent people.
You want an intelligence test, take an I.Q. test.
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it proves she's an idiot
my friend in high school who never ever did homework and used to smoke weed with me everyday while at school got a 1560 and I got a 1200----------to get an 850 you reallly have to be Trying to be stupid ;)
When you can run a city or a state and end up being chosen for vice-president, then you can lecture somebody on how much of an "idiot" Sarah Palin is.
it does give insight into the inherent intellectual capability- and somewhat into the focus and discipline of a person.
i.e. some clever people who dont study still do quite well, and other not so clevers who work hard can do very well.
BUT, if you do crap, you are either dumb/average and slack, or work really hard and a thick head.
You dont get smarter as you get older- you learn more, but you dont necessarily retain it. Thats why IQ tests apply from age 15 onwards and dont change anty more than 5% throughout an adult's life- at least until senility.
So in summary, if your IQ indicated that you're a moron when you do your SATs, then you'll always be a moron.
You post this mess, yet you have the gall to call someone else a "moron". IQ tests don't mean JACK in the real world. There are many people with high IQs who can barely balance a checkbook. They have lots of "book" smarts but their common sense is out the window.
All Palin has done is graduate from high school and college, become a two-time mayor, and become the FIRST female governor of Alaska. In less than a month, she could become the first female VP in history. What she's accomplished politically in such a short time is, by any standard, impressive.
Hard work and tenacity will get you farther in life than a high IQ.
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Damn, I got a 1050 on a trial run and a 1250 on my final.
She really isn't that bright at under 850
hahahahab bullshit. But lets say its true. then you are proof the SAT scores don't mean shit. And who cares what her SAT scores are. Isn't she a Governor. She must be doing something okay. She is a nominee for VP to isn't she. I wonder what Trumps or Buffett SAT scores were. I bet Stallone and Arnold had just huge scores ::) Man people are reaching these days
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hahahahab bullshit. But lets say its true. then you are proof the SAT scores don't mean shit. And who cares what her SAT scores are. Isn't she a Governor. She must be doing something okay. She is a nominee for VP to isn't she. I wonder what Trumps or Buffett SAT scores were. I bet Stallone and Arnold had just huge scores ::) Man people are reaching these days
Solid point.
Since when do SAT scores directly correlate to success and getting things done?
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hahahahab bullshit. But lets say its true. then you are proof the SAT scores don't mean shit. And who cares what her SAT scores are. Isn't she a Governor. She must be doing something okay. She is a nominee for VP to isn't she. I wonder what Trumps or Buffett SAT scores were. I bet Stallone and Arnold had just huge scores ::) Man people are reaching these days
If I'm correct and remember...Buffet did his Masters at Columbia. Didnt Trump leverage family Real Estate to get his start?
Anyway...she has maxed out her potential to a certain extent. Couldnt see her as Gov of NY...just not happening. Same thing goes for VP of the USA. It's an insane thought. Personally...I think alot of things have happen for her based on her looks. You can see this with the current election. People are completely looking past her true depth. Again...for kids who are borderline and get s##t about underachieving she is a person they can look at for inspiration.
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That's a perfect score. . .in Dubai, India
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That's a perfect score. . .in Dubai, India
Hell that's a good score in some of the poorer "black" schools here.
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Solid point.
Since when do SAT scores directly correlate to success and getting things done?
Good point. ;)
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oh my god what a dumb bitch ... i can score 1050 high, drunk and blindfolded...then again i have superior intellectual genes from my Asian heritage.
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is she related to Phil Heath?
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oh my god what a dumb bitch ... i can score 1050 high, drunk and blindfolded...then again i have superior intellectual genes from my Asian heritage.
ok
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HAHAHAHAHa i scored a 1350 and i was drunk the night before because we had a football game and we partied until 4am...
Amazing...i know getbig is full of dumbasses. but im sure 95% of getbiggers scored higher than 850
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You make it sound like if she had a "higher sat score" she would be a 'better president'. There are so many unlimited factors coming into play you cannot simply assume grades/gpa = the person. Thats like saying "Lawyer scores low in biology!". She has a pretty good hang on things im thinking ::)
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You make it sound like if she had a "higher sat score" she would be a 'better president'. There are so many unlimited factors coming into play you cannot simply assume grades/gpa = the person. Thats like saying "Lawyer scores low in biology!". She has a pretty good hang on things im thinking ::)
yeah i mean who are to think that the one test that measures weather a student qualifies to enroll in just about EVERY American university is just a stupid assessment of intelligence, what do universities and colleges know about intelligence anyways .. ::)
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That's like saying "I could only bench 150 in high school so that means I'm not strong."
Even if you're benching 400 now.
everybody benches 400 on the internet so that's not strong at all. ;D
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wrong. you dont suddenly get smarter. you are either smart, or dumb. your ability to deal with concepts and issues doesnt change. Your life experience accumulates..thats it. for dumb asses, much of the lessons learnt during life goes in one ear and out the next.
HTH.
Then why go to college if it isn't going to make you any smarter. why go to school at all
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hahahahab bullshit. But lets say its true. then you are proof the SAT scores don't mean shit. And who cares what her SAT scores are. Isn't she a Governor. She must be doing something okay. She is a nominee for VP to isn't she. I wonder what Trumps or Buffett SAT scores were. I bet Stallone and Arnold had just huge scores ::) Man people are reaching these days
Why would I lie about my SAT scores??? I studied hard in school plus I took SAT prep as an elective in high school. I spent an entire year doing SAT tests..... ;D
Simply put.....If you cannot comprehend basic English and Math skills, then you obviously either are stupid or you spent to much time being the most popular kid in school rather than study which I believe Palin is the latter.
She eventually cleaned up her act down the line a graduated however I can't see how she can botch so many interviews when her degree is in communications and she worked as a journalist and news reporter herself.
It simply defies the laws of time and space that she can be in this position but our current President is just as stupid.
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Then why go to college if it isn't going to make you any smarter. why go to school at all
maybe cause an alien falcon with swoop down and enlighten you ?
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That's like saying "I could only bench 150 in high school so that means I'm not strong."
Even if you're benching 400 now.
She can see Russia from her backyard. ::)
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What does this prove?
An SAT score from 1982?
How about showing some Ronald Reagan movies from the 40's and what that has to do with anything.
uhhhhh.... That proves Palin was a dumbshit in 82 and Reagan was a movie star in th 40's and?
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When you can run a city or a state and end up being chosen for vice-president, then you can lecture somebody on how much of an "idiot" Sarah Palin is.
You post this mess, yet you have the gall to call someone else a "moron". IQ tests don't mean JACK in the real world. There are many people with high IQs who can barely balance a checkbook. They have lots of "book" smarts but their common sense is out the window.
All Palin has done is graduate from high school and college, become a two-time mayor, and become the FIRST female governor of Alaska. In less than a month, she could become the first female VP in history. What she's accomplished politically in such a short time is, by any standard, impressive.
Hard work and tenacity will get you farther in life than a high IQ.
Somehow americans voted bush into office twice. What does that tell you. ::)
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uhhhhh.... That proves Palin was a dumbshit in 82 and Reagan was a movie star in th 40's and?
I'm saying what the hell does it have to do with today?
If you want to test somebody's intelligence, give them an IQ test.
Don't rely on an SAT from High School for Christ's sake.
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Another dumb non-issue. Big mal where are you? Why aren't you jumping all over this thread?
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need a little higher than 850 to get into Colombia and then Harvard Law
You forget he is a minority, and that can go a long way in getting into an elite university.
Im not saying he had low tes scores, just saying it helps.
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The 75th percentile for Columbia admissions is:
Reading 760
Math 780
Writing 750
That is the new testing methods.
With the old high mark of 1600 total, it was possible and very common to get a perfect score of 1600 and still not be accepted to Columbia and other Ivy league schools.
I'd have to wonder if that listing for Palin is accurate. That is a very poor score...
The average score that year was around 1,000.
A score of 850 on the SAT would have corresponded to about a 17 on the ACT. I don't even think you're allowed to play college athletics with that score.
I dont know who told you a perfect score of 1600 (on old test) was "very common", but it is not only uncommon but nearly impossible to get. Less than 200 students per year, out of 300K, received perfect 1600 SAT test scores. A 1600 SAT score is a guaranteed admission to ANY University in America. Bar none.
It would be like getting a perfect score on the LAST-180. You get a 180 LSAT and you will be adimitted to ANY law school in America-even if you had a 1.5 GPA.
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Another dumb non-issue. Big mal where are you? Why aren't you jumping all over this thread?
Are u kidding me...Comparing a Obama smoking cigs on campaign trail and the VP hopeful's sat score that equals that of a 9th grader are apples and oranges...you know that
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Somehow americans voted bush into office twice. What does that tell you. ::)
Tells me an untrained circus chimp can fool a lot of Americans :D
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I dont know who told you a perfect score of 1600 (on old test) was "very common", but it is not only uncommon but nearly impossible to get. Less than 200 students per year, out of 300K, received perfect 1600 SAT test scores. A 1600 SAT score is a guaranteed admission to ANY University in America. Bar none.
It would be like getting a perfect score on the LAST-180. You get a 180 LSAT and you will be adimitted to ANY law school in America-even if you had a 1.5 GPA.
I didn't say that a perfects score on the test was very common, I said it was common to not be accepted to schools with a perfect score. I know a female with a perfect score that went to Brown because she wasn't accepted to Harvard or Yale.
This is for grad school, but here's an example of a student in Physics:
GPA in Major: 4.00
Overall GPA: 4.00
Length of Degree: 4 Years
Position in Class: Top
Type of Student: non-handicapped middle class white American male
GRE Scores:
Q: 800
V: 770
W: 4.5 (was originally a 5.5 but I asked ETS for a rescore... my advice: don't try that)
P: 990
Perfect GPA, Perfect GPA in major, PERFECT Physics GRE score....check out some of the questions on that exam...
This fella was rejected by both MIT and Harvard.
He got into Princeton, Stanford and CalTech, but even with a perfect GPA and perfect PGRE he was rejected by two top schools.
Imagine if he had a 1.5 GPA to go with that perfect score.
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Are u kidding me...Comparing a Obama smoking cigs on campaign trail and the VP hopeful's sat score that equals that of a 9th grader are apples and oranges...you know that
You gotta be kidding me. You think an SAT score that someone took when they were 16 or 17 years old is relevant?
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You gotta be kidding me. You think an SAT score that someone took when they were 16 or 17 years old is relevant?
Shows that she isnt very smart..and People form alaska arent that smart for electing her...
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Shows that she isnt very smart..and People form alaska arent that smart for electing her...
It shows she bombed the SAT as a teenager. I take it you have a major problem with Obama's teenage drug use?
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It shows she bombed the SAT as a teenager. I take it you have a major problem with Obama's teenage drug use?
if it were crack...yes...weed...not so much...
I would be the same on obama if he did so poorly on the sat...
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if it were crack...yes...weed...not so much...
I would be the same on obama if he did so poorly on the sat...
He used weed and coke.
I can't tell you how ridiculous I think this is. I do a lot of interviewing and I have never asked a prospective candidate what their SAT score was, nor do I care, particularly if they have a history of accomplishment.
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He used weed and coke.
I can't tell you how ridiculous I think this is. I do a lot of interviewing and I have never asked a prospective candidate what their SAT score was, nor do I care, particularly if they have a history of accomplishment.
He did the coke...not good...coke=bad...
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The 75th percentile for Columbia admissions is:
Reading 760
Math 780
Writing 750
That is the new testing methods.
With the old high mark of 1600 total, it was possible and very common to get a perfect score of 1600 and still not be accepted to Columbia and other Ivy league schools.
I'd have to wonder if that listing for Palin is accurate. That is a very poor score...
The average score that year was around 1,000.
A score of 850 on the SAT would have corresponded to about a 17 on the ACT. I don't even think you're allowed to play college athletics with that score.
Yep Kevin Garnett couldn't get a 18 when he was in High School, that's why he went straight to the pros...
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i'm no palin fan. there was a guy who scored a 13 on the act, made it into college (colorado state univ) and was a complete f up (pot smokers ala wackdaddy and his female ghost) but grad. prof thought he wasnt a focused individual but had talent. guy ended up completing his ph.d. (immunology) and is respected guy in his field in colorado.
you cant count on sats/acts. if there are things going on (esp negative) in a person's life...then a bad score usually comes from lack of prep. basically...someone just walks in and takes it.
I count it when she cant do a simple interview that makes her look incompetent. Then seeing this test score explains to us why...
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Somehow americans voted bush into office twice. What does that tell you. ::)
It tells me that the so-called smart liberals failed to produce a candidate that could beat Bush.....TWICE!!!
And, despite having a huge monetary and media edge, they're in a tooth-and-nail battle with McCain.
Crying about how dumb your opponents are, WHEN YOU LOSE TO THOSE OPPONENTS MULTIPLE TIMES, makes you look childish.
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It shows she bombed the SAT as a teenager. I take it you have a major problem with Obama's teenage drug use?
Palin admitted to using drugs too.
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Palin admitted to using drugs too.
When? Source?
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Palin admitted to using drugs too.
She has, what, five kids?
She's addicted to the hot beef injection.
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Palin admitted to using drugs too.
She admitted inventing cancer too.
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850 is ...wow...that is definitely in the retard range. it is abominable that she is a governor somewhere
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Why would I lie about my SAT scores??? I studied hard in school plus I took SAT prep as an elective in high school. I spent an entire year doing SAT tests..... ;D
Simply put.....If you cannot comprehend basic English and Math skills, then you obviously either are stupid or you spent to much time being the most popular kid in school rather than study which I believe Palin is the latter.
She eventually cleaned up her act down the line a graduated however I can't see how she can botch so many interviews when her degree is in communications and she worked as a journalist and news reporter herself.
It simply defies the laws of time and space that she can be in this position but our current President is just as stupid.
Never underestimate the power of the 'stupid vote'. Palin, at least politically speaking, is a smart choice for the Republicans. Nearly every stupid white will vote for her. She locks up the gun nuts, religious nuts and gets the stupid women.
There are a lot of stupid people in America, and a good portion of them vote.
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I'm saying what the hell does it have to do with today?
If you want to test somebody's intelligence, give them an IQ test.
Don't rely on an SAT from High School for Christ's sake.
IQ does NOT measure intelligence, ...it simply measures capacity & potential.
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IQ does NOT measure intelligence, ...it simply measures capacity & potential.
Yeah, that's why it's called "Intelligence Quotient."
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When? Source?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4641030.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093
“I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say I never inhaled”
btw - pot was legal in Alaska at the time but I doubt that makes any difference to those who just see it as evil
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He used weed and coke.
I can't tell you how ridiculous I think this is. I do a lot of interviewing and I have never asked a prospective candidate what their SAT score was, nor do I care, particularly if they have a history of accomplishment.
Source? Not saying your lying, just never heard this before...
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The best part is that I had better SAT scores when I was 12.
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Idiots..gullible dumb idiots..falling for FAKE SAT scores. Investigate before leaping. Hahaa on you all!
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4641030.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093
“I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say I never inhaled”
btw - pot was legal in Alaska at the time but I doubt that makes any difference to those who just see it as evil
If she smoked it when it was legal then she obviously wasn't breaking the law, unlike many of the criminals who smoke it today.
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Pot is pot.
Legal or not, it is still a drug.
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If she smoked it when it was legal then she obviously wasn't breaking the law, unlike many of the criminals who smoke it today.
Go smoke a joint, you heathen.
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hahahahab bullshit. But lets say its true. then you are proof the SAT scores don't mean shit. And who cares what her SAT scores are. Isn't she a Governor. She must be doing something okay. She is a nominee for VP to isn't she. I wonder what Trumps or Buffett SAT scores were. I bet Stallone and Arnold had just huge scores ::) Man people are reaching these days
Buffet went to Columbia and Trump went to University of Pennsylvania, Wharton school of business. ::) Gotta be excellent students to get into those schools even if you are from a rich family.
People in government should be intelligent. SAT scores show comprehension and critical thinking skills. Why should a person have the chance to be president if they have difficulty reading simple passages and doing world problems? :-\
And books smarts = real life smarts. People who score higher on these types of exams on average make a lot more money than people who don't. End of story. Sure you can cite examples of people, especially athletes and business men, but they are far and in between. People who have degrees and big grades accomplish much more on average and make for a better society. Look at how Palin couldn't even address the questions directed towards her during her debate with Biden. You wanna know one of the major issues of this country? It isn't terrorism, but incredible stupidity on part of the general population, and collectively it makes for a shittier America.
Imagine someone with a 800 something score trying to read an intelligence report.. Scary.
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Pot is pot.
Legal or not, it is still a drug.
I'm pretty sure it's just a weed that grows out of the ground.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHahahhahahhahahhaha.... She's got the dumbshit vote... only problem....there are a lot of dumbshits....
bingo.
no more calls, we have a winner.
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