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Strong words.
Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
The governor praises GOP VP pick Palin as smart and "fearless"
By Richard Borreca
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Oct 14, 2008
Gov. Linda Lingle, who leaves this week for a second round of campaigning for the Republican presidential ticket, says the economic plans of Democratic candidate Barack Obama "would devastate our economy."
Lingle, who introduced Gov. Sarah Palin at the GOP national convention and is a strong defender of the Republican vice presidential pick, has high praise for the Alaska leader.
Speaking to Star-Bulletin editors and reporters last week, Lingle called Palin "intelligent, fearless and genuine."
"That is why she has connected to people as she has. It is the most amazing phenomenon to watch. ... She is a very down-to-earth person," Lingle said.
Asked about Palin's comment that Obama "has been palling around with terrorists," in reference to Obama knowing William Ayers, a 1960s radical in the Weather Underground, Lingle said it is important.
"Talking about who a person associates with is certainly appropriate for a campaign," Lingle said.
"I think who you associate with is valid," she added, noting that Republican candidate John McCain "drew a distinction" between criticism of Obama and Ayers and the controversy with Obama's former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Obama was a child when the Weather Underground was active, and the Illinois U.S. senator has denounced Ayers' previous radical activities.
On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.
"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.
Hawaii's first Republican governor in 40 years also criticized Obama for not suspending his campaign when McCain suspended his to vote on the economic bailout bill in Washington earlier this month.
"Obama should have done this when the crisis developed," Lingle said. "Only in government can you be seen as erratic when you make good, quick decisions."
Obama had called McCain "erratic" in part for temporarily halting his campaign while going to Washington to vote.
Local Obama state coordinator Andy Winer said yesterday that Lingle should not be on the national campaign trail.
"At a time when Hawaii is facing a significant budgetary and economic crisis, Gov. Lingle should be at home working with business and political leaders to address our economic problems instead of spending significant time out of state campaigning," Winer said.
Today, Lingle is in Denver for the ceremony for the striking of the first Hawaii quarter, featuring the statue of King Kamehameha, but will later hit the campaign trail for McCain.
Lingle is expected to make three campaign appearances for McCain and Palin in Las Vegas tomorrow before flying to Cincinnati for a debate with Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer.
Lingle and Boxer will participate in the Jewish Community Relations Council presidential forum Thursday.
Lingle is then expected to return to Honolulu, but her office says she might make another national campaign trip before the Nov. 4 general election.
Gov. Linda Lingle, who leaves this week for a second round of campaigning for the Republican presidential ticket, says the economic plans of Democratic candidate Barack Obama "would devastate our economy."
Lingle, who introduced Gov. Sarah Palin at the GOP national convention and is a strong defender of the Republican vice presidential pick, has high praise for the Alaska leader.
Speaking to Star-Bulletin editors and reporters last week, Lingle called Palin "intelligent, fearless and genuine."
"That is why she has connected to people as she has. It is the most amazing phenomenon to watch. ... She is a very down-to-earth person," Lingle said.
Asked about Palin's comment that Obama "has been palling around with terrorists," in reference to Obama knowing William Ayers, a 1960s radical in the Weather Underground, Lingle said it is important.
"Talking about who a person associates with is certainly appropriate for a campaign," Lingle said.
"I think who you associate with is valid," she added, noting that Republican candidate John McCain "drew a distinction" between criticism of Obama and Ayers and the controversy with Obama's former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Obama was a child when the Weather Underground was active, and the Illinois U.S. senator has denounced Ayers' previous radical activities.
On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.
"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.
Hawaii's first Republican governor in 40 years also criticized Obama for not suspending his campaign when McCain suspended his to vote on the economic bailout bill in Washington earlier this month.
"Obama should have done this when the crisis developed," Lingle said. "Only in government can you be seen as erratic when you make good, quick decisions."
Obama had called McCain "erratic" in part for temporarily halting his campaign while going to Washington to vote.
Local Obama state coordinator Andy Winer said yesterday that Lingle should not be on the national campaign trail.
"At a time when Hawaii is facing a significant budgetary and economic crisis, Gov. Lingle should be at home working with business and political leaders to address our economic problems instead of spending significant time out of state campaigning," Winer said.
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http://www.starbulletin.com/news/hawaiinews/20081014_Obama_would_destroy_economy_Lingle_says.html
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Strong words.
Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
destroy Bush's decimated economy ? ::)
NT
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destroy Bush's decimated economy ? ::)
NT
Did you read the article? He will hurt small businesses:
On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.
"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.
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Did you read the article? He will hurt small businesses:
On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.
"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.
I agree. 250k is too low.
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Why can't these figures be adjusted by region?
I'm far from 'rich', but I'm about to send the IRS a check for more than most people make in a year. :(
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Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.
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Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.
Let's assume your statement is true. How many small businesses are we talking about? At least 22,000 would be affected in Hawaii. How many would be affected nationwide?
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Let's assume your statement is true. How many small businesses are we talking about? At least 22,000 would be affected in Hawaii. How many would be affected nationwide?
"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.
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So a GOP stalwart claims that Democrat Obama will destroy the economy? Where is the news in that? ::) That is just more fear rhetoric from one party toward the other.
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"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.
How many businesses are we talking about?
Also, when the government raises taxes on business, business passes those increased costs right along to consumers.
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How many businesses are we talking about?
Also, when the government raises taxes on business, business passes those increased costs right along to consumers.
Of course they do, but with consumers getting tax breaks, they will have more $$$ to spend.
How many small businesses make over 250,000 per year? I have not an idea.
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"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.
You've been reading the news lately?
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Why can't these figures be adjusted by region?
I'm far from 'rich', but I'm about to send the IRS a check for more than most people make in a year. :(
A-fucking-men, brother!!!
Helllllllllllllooooooo.. ... regional cost of living index!!!
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news flash................... ...the economy is already in the shitter
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news flash................... ...the economy is already in the shitter
news flash................... ...taking away more of working families disposable income won't help it.
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u r right however under bush we lost millions of jobs
no job=no income
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u r right however under bush we lost millions of jobs
no job=no income
Raising taxes won't fix that.
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seriously, to pay off the wars, the economic fixes, and other domestic crap taxes are going up no matter what we do
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seriously, to pay off the wars, the economic fixes, and other domestic crap taxes are going up no matter what we do
....or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means.
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"...or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means."
once again i agree but we borrowed for the wars and we owe big $, someone has to pay it off
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"...or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means."
once again i agree but we borrowed for the wars and we owe big $, someone has to pay it off
True... the stewards of our country (Democrats AND Republicans) have sold us out.
Like any working family, when you have debt you have to make sacrifices - not spend more.
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face it our country is plastic, we are pawns, i would just rather pretend we are not
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face it our country is plastic, we are pawns, i would just rather pretend we are not
If by your statement you mean we are slaves to the system you would be correct, sir.
I have too much at stake and too many responsibilities to do anything radical to take myself off the "grid".
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Of course they do, but with consumers getting tax breaks, they will have more $$$ to spend.
How many small businesses make over 250,000 per year? I have not an idea.
So we reduce taxes on some consumers so they can pay more for the increased costs of goods and services?
If you don't know how many small businesses make over $250K then what is the basis for this statement:
Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.
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You mean republican Gov. Linda Lingle?
great post ::)
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You mean republican Gov. Linda Lingle?
great post ::)
Yes. The same Republican who turned a budget deficit into a budget surplus. A billion dollar turnaround. She knows what she's talking about.
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Yes. The same Republican who turned a budget deficit into a budget surplus. A billion dollar turnaround. She knows what she's talking about.
It's Hawaii and she's a lesbian - how hard could it be?
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It's Hawaii and she's a lesbian - how hard could it be?
Why do you call her a lesbian? You privy to info the rest of the islands don’t know about?
It's extremely difficult. We have probably had a Democrat legislature since statehood. She is the first Republican governor in about 40 years. Democrats have a veto-proof majority in both houses. Still, she came in and completely changed the mindset of government.
That's one of the things I like about McCain. He has been saying the right things (cut taxes, cut spending, balance the budget, etc.).
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Why do you call her a lesbian? You privy to info the rest of the islands don’t know about?
My gaydar went off the moment I saw her photo.
It's extremely difficult. We have probably had a Democrat legislature since statehood. She is the first Republican governor in about 40 years. Democrats have a veto-proof majority in both houses. Still, she came in and completely changed the mindset of government.
That's one of the things I like about McCain. He has been saying the right things (cut taxes, cut spending, balance the budget, etc.).
I like people who demonstrate fiscal responsibility, especially with other people's money.
She cannot possibly be a Bush supporter.
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Did you read the article? He will hurt small businesses:
On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.
"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.
Haha... Where did Governor Lingle get her economics degree from?
No offense to her, I'm sure she's a fine governor, but let's be honest here... She has no credibility when it comes to the economy.
It's just not what she's knowledgeable in.
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So we reduce taxes on some consumers so they can pay more for the increased costs of goods and services?
If you don't know how many small businesses make over $250K then what is the basis for this statement:
I don't know what the number of businesses make up 5% or 10% of the total number of small businesses. Do you know that number?
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My gaydar went off the moment I saw her photo.
I like people who demonstrate fiscal responsibility, especially with other people's money.
She cannot possibly be a Bush supporter.
You see a photo and make an unqualified statement? O.K.
I like people who demonstrate fiscal responsibility too. That's part of what makes her a terrific governor.
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Haha... Where did Governor Lingle get her economics degree from?
No offense to her, I'm sure she's a fine governor, but let's be honest here... She has no credibility when it comes to the economy.
It's just not what she's knowledgeable in.
lol. I guess managing a county budget for 8 years and managing a state budget for 6 years isn't good enough. She couldn't possibly know anything about economics after creating "a record surplus of $730 million, coming from the budget's previous deficit of $250 million." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lingle
The fact is she knows more about economics and balancing budgets than both candidates and their running mates.
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I don't know what the number of businesses make up 5% or 10% of the total number of small businesses. Do you know that number?
I don't know.
If you're going to say "over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes," you have to have some basis for that statement, unless you're just repeating a talking point? Where did you get that figure?
Are we talking about 100,000 businesses being affected? Five hundred thousand?
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Yes. The same Republican who turned a budget deficit into a budget surplus. A billion dollar turnaround. She knows what she's talking about.
Now that is new...a Republican who actually practices good fiscal policy. Amazing that Lingle has supported Bush so prominently, since he is the exact opposite, a Republican who continues to increase the national debt and who hasn't ever turned in a balance budget in his 8 years in office.
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I don't know.
If you're going to say "over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes," you have to have some basis for that statement, unless you're just repeating a talking point? Where did you get that figure?
Are we talking about 100,000 businesses being affected? Five hundred thousand?
Directly from Obama himself.
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lol. I guess managing a county budget for 8 years and managing a state budget for 6 years isn't good enough. She couldn't possibly know anything about economics after creating "a record surplus of $730 million, coming from the budget's previous deficit of $250 million." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lingle
The fact is she knows more about economics and balancing budgets than both candidates and their running mates.
Balancing a budget isn't rocket science... It isn't even complex economics... It's simple... You have X dollars, you only get to use X dollars.
You think balancing your checkbook makes you an economist?
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Balancing a budget isn't rocket science... It isn't even complex economics... It's simple... You have X dollars, you only get to use X dollars.
You think balancing your checkbook makes you an economist?
A governor manages a state budget. A governor does pretty much everything the president does, but on a smaller scale. Same with mayors.
A mayor and governor who has successfully managed and balanced budgets at the county and state level is qualified to manage, and at a minimum, discuss what it takes to manage and balance the national budget.
I don't think balancing a budget is rocket science, but you have to ask yourself why so many states can't do it. Those who have done it successfully obviously know what it takes.
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A governor manages a state budget. A governor does pretty much everything the president does, but on a smaller scale. Same with mayors.
A mayor and governor who has successfully managed and balanced budgets at the county and state level is qualified to manage, and at a minimum, discuss what it takes to manage and balance the national budget.
I don't think balancing a budget is rocket science, but you have to ask yourself why so many states can't do it. Those who have done it successfully obviously know what it takes.
I think they don't do it because if they act like they don't need MORE money, they can't validate raising taxes and as a former state employee, I know that the old use it or lose it criteria is in full effect at a government level.
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I think they don't do it because if they act like they don't need MORE money, they can't validate raising taxes and as a former state employee, I know that the old use it or lose it criteria is in full effect at a government level.
It sure is. Sad but true.
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BB, "destroy economy"?
Um, isn't that pretty much well into that phase now.
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BB, "destroy economy"?
Um, isn't that pretty much well into that phase now.
Depends on where you live. :)
Updated at 2:51 p.m., Thursday, October 16, 2008
Disney releases details for Ko Olina resort that would create 1,000 jobs
Advertiser Staff
Walt Disney Parks and Resorts today unveiled a scale model of its planned Ko Olina resort that will include 350 hotel rooms and 480 timeshare vacation villas on 21 acres of oceanfront property.
Disney estimates the project, expected to open by late 2011, will create 1,000 new jobs. Plans call for the resort to feature an extensive water play area including a small river, water slides and several pools. The resort will also include a spa, a conference center, a kids' club and a wedding lawn.
Officials from city's Department of Planning and Permitting has been meeting Disney since April on regulatory issues. Currently, the department is processing a mass grading permit application which would allow the site work to begin.
The department said it expects to issue the permit shortly, with grading work to begin in late December or early January. A blessing and ground-breaking ceremony is planned for later this year.
"This unique project should help boost our economy and provide jobs that are badly needed, especially in the Leeward area," Mayor Mufi Hannemann said. "I was confident that Disney would create many new opportunities and become a respected and contributing member of our community."
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081016/BREAKING03/81016081
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Depends on where you live. :)
Same with me lol.
Its all good here.
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Same with me lol.
Its all good here.
How could it not be when you don't pay taxes? :)