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Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« on: October 15, 2008, 02:59:09 PM »
Strong words. 

Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
The governor praises GOP VP pick Palin as smart and "fearless"

By Richard Borreca

POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Oct 14, 2008

Gov. Linda Lingle, who leaves this week for a second round of campaigning for the Republican presidential ticket, says the economic plans of Democratic candidate Barack Obama "would devastate our economy."
Lingle, who introduced Gov. Sarah Palin at the GOP national convention and is a strong defender of the Republican vice presidential pick, has high praise for the Alaska leader.

Speaking to Star-Bulletin editors and reporters last week, Lingle called Palin "intelligent, fearless and genuine."

"That is why she has connected to people as she has. It is the most amazing phenomenon to watch. ... She is a very down-to-earth person," Lingle said.

Asked about Palin's comment that Obama "has been palling around with terrorists," in reference to Obama knowing William Ayers, a 1960s radical in the Weather Underground, Lingle said it is important.

"Talking about who a person associates with is certainly appropriate for a campaign," Lingle said.

"I think who you associate with is valid," she added, noting that Republican candidate John McCain "drew a distinction" between criticism of Obama and Ayers and the controversy with Obama's former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Obama was a child when the Weather Underground was active, and the Illinois U.S. senator has denounced Ayers' previous radical activities.

On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.

"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.

Hawaii's first Republican governor in 40 years also criticized Obama for not suspending his campaign when McCain suspended his to vote on the economic bailout bill in Washington earlier this month.

"Obama should have done this when the crisis developed," Lingle said. "Only in government can you be seen as erratic when you make good, quick decisions."

Obama had called McCain "erratic" in part for temporarily halting his campaign while going to Washington to vote.

Local Obama state coordinator Andy Winer said yesterday that Lingle should not be on the national campaign trail.

"At a time when Hawaii is facing a significant budgetary and economic crisis, Gov. Lingle should be at home working with business and political leaders to address our economic problems instead of spending significant time out of state campaigning," Winer said.

Today, Lingle is in Denver for the ceremony for the striking of the first Hawaii quarter, featuring the statue of King Kamehameha, but will later hit the campaign trail for McCain.

Lingle is expected to make three campaign appearances for McCain and Palin in Las Vegas tomorrow before flying to Cincinnati for a debate with Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer.

Lingle and Boxer will participate in the Jewish Community Relations Council presidential forum Thursday.

Lingle is then expected to return to Honolulu, but her office says she might make another national campaign trip before the Nov. 4 general election.

Gov. Linda Lingle, who leaves this week for a second round of campaigning for the Republican presidential ticket, says the economic plans of Democratic candidate Barack Obama "would devastate our economy."

Lingle, who introduced Gov. Sarah Palin at the GOP national convention and is a strong defender of the Republican vice presidential pick, has high praise for the Alaska leader.

Speaking to Star-Bulletin editors and reporters last week, Lingle called Palin "intelligent, fearless and genuine."

"That is why she has connected to people as she has. It is the most amazing phenomenon to watch. ... She is a very down-to-earth person," Lingle said.

Asked about Palin's comment that Obama "has been palling around with terrorists," in reference to Obama knowing William Ayers, a 1960s radical in the Weather Underground, Lingle said it is important.

"Talking about who a person associates with is certainly appropriate for a campaign," Lingle said.

"I think who you associate with is valid," she added, noting that Republican candidate John McCain "drew a distinction" between criticism of Obama and Ayers and the controversy with Obama's former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Obama was a child when the Weather Underground was active, and the Illinois U.S. senator has denounced Ayers' previous radical activities.

On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.

"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.

Hawaii's first Republican governor in 40 years also criticized Obama for not suspending his campaign when McCain suspended his to vote on the economic bailout bill in Washington earlier this month.

"Obama should have done this when the crisis developed," Lingle said. "Only in government can you be seen as erratic when you make good, quick decisions."

Obama had called McCain "erratic" in part for temporarily halting his campaign while going to Washington to vote.

Local Obama state coordinator Andy Winer said yesterday that Lingle should not be on the national campaign trail.

"At a time when Hawaii is facing a significant budgetary and economic crisis, Gov. Lingle should be at home working with business and political leaders to address our economic problems instead of spending significant time out of state campaigning," Winer said.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 03:09:43 PM »
Strong words. 

Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says


destroy Bush's decimated economy ?  ::)




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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 03:14:34 PM »

destroy Bush's decimated economy ?  ::)




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Did you read the article?  He will hurt small businesses:

On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.

"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 03:31:47 PM »
Did you read the article?  He will hurt small businesses:

On the economy, an early pledge by Obama to consider tax increases only on anyone making at least $250,000 also concerns Lingle. She said that could hurt small-business owners in Hawaii.

"We are a state of small businesses. He calls them rich. In Hawaii we have 22,000 business that would fall in this category," Lingle said.

I agree.  250k is too low. 

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 03:39:21 PM »

Why can't these figures be adjusted by region? 

I'm far from 'rich', but I'm about to send the IRS a check for more than most people make in a year. :(

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 03:44:31 PM »
Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 03:48:44 PM »
Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.

Let's assume your statement is true.  How many small businesses are we talking about?  At least 22,000 would be affected in Hawaii.  How many would be affected nationwide? 

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 03:51:12 PM »
Let's assume your statement is true.  How many small businesses are we talking about?  At least 22,000 would be affected in Hawaii.  How many would be affected nationwide? 



"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 03:54:38 PM »
So a GOP stalwart claims that Democrat Obama will destroy the economy?  Where is the news in that?  ::)  That is just more fear rhetoric from one party toward the other.   

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 03:59:30 PM »


"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.

How many businesses are we talking about? 

Also, when the government raises taxes on business, business passes those increased costs right along to consumers. 

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 05:31:52 PM »
How many businesses are we talking about? 

Also, when the government raises taxes on business, business passes those increased costs right along to consumers. 

Of course they do, but with consumers getting tax breaks, they will have more $$$ to spend.


How many small businesses make over 250,000 per year? I have not an idea.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 05:41:32 PM »


"Affected" is bad term. Though their taxes would go up, their business would increase due to a revived economy and it would level out. When people who make less $ pay less taxes, they have more $ to spend to help the businesses who do get taxed more make more $.

You've been reading the news lately?

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 08:26:02 PM »
Why can't these figures be adjusted by region? 

I'm far from 'rich', but I'm about to send the IRS a check for more than most people make in a year. :(

A-fucking-men, brother!!!

Helllllllllllllooooooo.. ... regional cost of living index!!!


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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 08:27:57 PM »
news flash................... ...the economy is already in the shitter
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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2008, 08:28:49 PM »
news flash................... ...the economy is already in the shitter

news flash................... ...taking away more of working families disposable income won't help it.


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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2008, 08:30:31 PM »
u r right however under bush we lost millions of jobs
no job=no income
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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2008, 08:32:24 PM »
u r right however under bush we lost millions of jobs
no job=no income

Raising taxes won't fix that.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2008, 08:34:23 PM »
seriously, to pay off the wars, the economic fixes, and other domestic crap taxes are going up no matter what we do
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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2008, 08:40:37 PM »
seriously, to pay off the wars, the economic fixes, and other domestic crap taxes are going up no matter what we do

....or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means.


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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2008, 08:42:39 PM »
"...or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means."

once again i agree but we borrowed for the wars and we owe big $, someone has to pay it off
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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »
"...or.... we could bring the troops home, stop our interventionalist foreign policy, work towards energy independence and cut government spending. You know, live within our means."

once again i agree but we borrowed for the wars and we owe big $, someone has to pay it off

True... the stewards of our country (Democrats AND Republicans) have sold us out.

Like any working family, when you have debt you have to make sacrifices - not spend more.


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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2008, 08:49:34 PM »
face it our country is plastic, we are pawns, i would just rather pretend we are not
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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2008, 08:54:22 PM »
face it our country is plastic, we are pawns, i would just rather pretend we are not

If by your statement you mean we are slaves to the system you would be correct, sir.

I have too much at stake and too many responsibilities to do anything radical to take myself off the "grid".

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2008, 10:17:39 PM »
Of course they do, but with consumers getting tax breaks, they will have more $$$ to spend.


How many small businesses make over 250,000 per year? I have not an idea.

So we reduce taxes on some consumers so they can pay more for the increased costs of goods and services? 

If you don't know how many small businesses make over $250K then what is the basis for this statement:

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Over 90% of small businesses wouldn't be affected by his new taxes.

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Re: Obama would destroy economy, Lingle says
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2008, 10:20:41 PM »
You mean republican Gov. Linda Lingle?
great post ::)