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Title: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Ron on October 20, 2008, 09:25:29 AM
Among those who paid tribute to him were Mr. Schwarzenegger, who was an unknown muscle-man in Austria in the 1960s when Mr. Weider and his brother, Joe, plucked the teenager from obscurity.

“Ben Weider was one of the most amazing people I have ever known. He and his brother, Joe, grew up poor in Montreal, but through their vision, hard work and determination, became founding fathers of bodybuilding and the worldwide fitness revolution,” the California Governor said in a statement.

“Ben and Joe were like fathers to me, bringing me to America when I was a young man just making my way in the world. I never would have achieved the success I have enjoyed in life without them and they supported me in everything I have ever done.”
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
2008 arnold classic - ben stood onstage with arnold and talked about the need for a constitutional amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to be President...
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Tapeworm on October 20, 2008, 09:31:57 AM
2008 arnold classic - ben stood onstage with arnold and talked about the need for a constitutional amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to be President...

Did the policy makers in the audience agree with what the Canadian gentleman said about the Austrian guy?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 20, 2008, 09:32:44 AM
240, all respect, but i don't think you should allow a franco-canadian president.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: The_Punisher on October 20, 2008, 09:34:49 AM
240, all respect, but i don't think you should allow a franco-canadian president.


you don't think he would have made a great president?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Tapeworm on October 20, 2008, 09:35:15 AM
240, all respect, but i don't think you should allow a franco-canadian president.

As usual Franco would have to be the Vice President.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 20, 2008, 09:38:52 AM
Read again, tapeworm. I think he would have chose Joe as vice.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 20, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
Arnold would likely be better than the two we pick from in this election.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Ron on October 20, 2008, 10:44:01 AM

Arnold as a moderate Republican would make a good president.  As he found out in California, dealing with a Democratic controlled house and assembly is very difficult to get things done, in order to balance out the California budget.  With the decrease in property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, 2008 and especially 2009 are going to be incredibly tough years for California.

Thanks to Grey David, back when California was doing well, for giing out lots of free healthcare, money to government pensions, huge raises so when the bad times came, we would be in trouble like we are, and have to cut important things like school budgets.



Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: wavelength on October 20, 2008, 10:48:34 AM
I'm all for it. It would be faaahhhntaaahhhstic!
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: wavelength on October 20, 2008, 10:51:02 AM
Just look at the flags, it's inevitable.

(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:foVwQFTbsNLrzM:http://www.newlondonfirefightersunion.org/US_FLAG.jpg) (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:WJMW2K4gUBkJ::www.cev.be/data/Image/Austrian-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Hereford on October 20, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
Arnold as a moderate Republican would make a good president.  As he found out in California, dealing with a Democratic controlled house and assembly is very difficult to get things done, in order to balance out the California budget.  With the decrease in property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, 2008 and especially 2009 are going to be incredibly tough years for California.

Thanks to Grey David, back when California was doing well, for giing out lots of free healthcare, money to government pensions, huge raises so when the bad times came, we would be in trouble like we are, and have to cut important things like school budgets.





Davis, Ron...

His name way Gray Davis...
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: johnny1 on October 20, 2008, 06:12:58 PM
Among those who paid tribute to him were Mr. Schwarzenegger, who was an unknown muscle-man in Austria in the 1960s when Mr. Weider and his brother, Joe, plucked the teenager from obscurity.

“Ben Weider was one of the most amazing people I have ever known. He and his brother, Joe, grew up poor in Montreal, but through their vision, hard work and determination, became founding fathers of bodybuilding and the worldwide fitness revolution,” the California Governor said in a statement.

“Ben and Joe were like fathers to me, bringing me to America when I was a young man just making my way in the world. I never would have achieved the success I have enjoyed in life without them and they supported me in everything I have ever done.”

Very Classy from Arnold, hes never forgotten those that took care of him in the early days thanks for that Ron.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Vince B on October 20, 2008, 06:34:40 PM
Arnold is the consummate politician. His words sound wonderful but don't say much at all. That is classic Arnold. He associated with people who could advance his career. He gives Ben and Joe recognition for contributions to bodybuilding but has no idea what to do about the status of Dianabol in California. Would Arnold be governor if he never used steroids?! We all know the answer.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: arce377 on October 20, 2008, 06:38:13 PM


  I too, feel the need for a ISA constitutional amendment, allowing foreign-born citizens, to be President...


Henry K.
Arnold S.
etc.,

 ALL have what it takes, to be the USA President IMHO. JMHO.



 USMC
 05 YEARS ENLISTED
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 20, 2008, 06:39:07 PM
Arnold is the consummate politician. His words sound wonderful but don't say much at all. That is classic Arnold. He associated with people who could advance his career. He gives Ben and Joe recognition for contributions to bodybuilding but has no idea what to do about the status of Dianabol in California. Would Arnold be governor if he never used steroids?! We all know the answer.

Whats the status of Dianabol in Australia, Basile?  Figured I would go to the founding father....
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: arce377 on October 20, 2008, 06:39:35 PM
  :D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: tbombz on October 20, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
giing out lots of free healthcare, money to government pensions, huge raises
and those are all such horrible things  :-\

shut up
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: johnny1 on October 20, 2008, 06:46:33 PM
Arnold is the consummate politician. His words sound wonderful but don't say much at all. That is classic Arnold. He associated with people who could advance his career. He gives Ben and Joe recognition for contributions to bodybuilding but has no idea what to do about the status of Dianabol in California. Would Arnold be governor if he never used steroids?! We all know the answer.
Vince can you please make a suggestion, on who could do something about the Dianabol status in California?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Vince B on October 20, 2008, 06:50:30 PM
The point is Arnold gave state recognition to Joe and Ben Weider. He appointed his mates to chiropractic committees. How hard would it be for Arnold, many times Mr Universe and Mr Olympia, to reverse the status of performance enhancing drugs for bodybuilders? I don't endorse their use but I don't think users should be put in jail. Arnold won't touch that issue with a 10 foot pole. Like John Balik said, 'Arnold doesn't have time for the old gang anymore'.  
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2008, 12:03:45 AM
The point is Arnold gave state recognition to Joe and Ben Weider. He appointed his mates to chiropractic committees. How hard would it be for Arnold, many times Mr Universe and Mr Olympia, to reverse the status of performance enhancing drugs for bodybuilders? I don't endorse their use but I don't think users should be put in jail. Arnold won't touch that issue with a 10 foot pole. Like John Balik said, 'Arnold doesn't have time for the old gang anymore'.  

STFU, Vince.

You're just a senile hater who is jealous of everyone, including goatboy.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: GoneAway on October 21, 2008, 12:59:25 AM
I see your call to the DEA went well, Vince. Back to complaining about how no one is doing something regarding BBers using steroids. Here's a hint - whining on GetBig won't help! ;)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Gino30 on October 21, 2008, 01:26:09 AM
Arnold as a moderate Republican would make a good president.  As he found out in California, dealing with a Democratic controlled house and assembly is very difficult to get things done, in order to balance out the California budget.  With the decrease in property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, 2008 and especially 2009 are going to be incredibly tough years for California.

Thanks to Grey David, back when California was doing well, for giing out lots of free healthcare, money to government pensions, huge raises so when the bad times came, we would be in trouble like we are, and have to cut important things like school budgets.

You seem to assume there's not 1000 or more people, more suited to the job

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Veteran_Lifter on October 21, 2008, 01:35:50 AM

  I too, feel the need for a ISA constitutional amendment, allowing foreign-born citizens, to be President...


Henry K.
Arnold S.
etc.,

 ALL have what it takes, to be the USA President IMHO. JMHO.



 USMC
 05 YEARS ENLISTED

...
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: chaos on October 21, 2008, 05:21:25 AM
Davis, Ron...

His name way Gray Davis...
I think the word you're looking for is "was". ;)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2008, 06:16:56 AM
i hate ben an joe for fathering bodybuilding because it created you. One of the typical wannabe shmoes that lurk in mens locker rooms checking out pec...ker sizes

You're wrong on this one.

Vince is a chubby chaser. He prefers his fat girls underage. His interest in men is purely stalking bodybuilding pros, nothing sexual in there.

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: RZA on October 21, 2008, 06:18:33 AM
Among those who paid tribute to him were Mr. Schwarzenegger, who was an unknown muscle-man in Austria in the 1960s when Mr. Weider and his brother, Joe, plucked the teenager from obscurity.

“Ben Weider was one of the most disturbing people I have ever known. He and his brother, Joe, grew up poor in Montreal, but through their love of muscular oiled men in thongs became founding fathers of G4P and the worldwide fitness revolution,” the California Governor said in a statement.

“Ben and Joe were like ultimate schmoes to me, bringing me to America when I was a young man just making my way in the world. I never would have achieved the anal pain I have enjoyed in life without them and they supported me in everything I have ever done.”


Fixed
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2008, 07:37:58 AM

Basile fears the Goat.

More than a vampire fears garlic or Bluto fears women.

 ;D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 21, 2008, 07:50:54 AM
Arnold is the consummate politician. His words sound wonderful but don't say much at all. That is classic Arnold. He associated with people who could advance his career. He gives Ben and Joe recognition for contributions to bodybuilding but has no idea what to do about the status of Dianabol in California. Would Arnold be governor if he never used steroids?! We all know the answer.

Would Basile had been "Mr Canada" without Dianabol? I think we all know the answer.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 21, 2008, 08:11:30 AM
Would Basile had been "Mr Canada" without Dianabol? I think we all know the answer.

LOL...didn't need much help, he was the only one in his class.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Figo on October 21, 2008, 08:15:35 AM
Dianabol should not only be legalized but subsidized in Kahlifoniah.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: emn1964 on October 21, 2008, 08:19:43 AM
Arnold is the consummate politician. His words sound wonderful but don't say much at all. That is classic Arnold. He associated with people who could advance his career. He gives Ben and Joe recognition for contributions to bodybuilding but has no idea what to do about the status of Dianabol in California. Would Arnold be governor if he never used steroids?! We all know the answer.

As a state governor he has no power to control whether dbol is legal or not.  That was decided by Federal law.  Hope this helps Vince.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2008, 08:22:57 AM
LOL...didn't need much help, he was the only one in his class.

Really??

That's what i call a major owning.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: kmhphoto on October 21, 2008, 08:24:25 AM
LOL...didn't need much help, he was the only one in his class.

And he still wasn't competitive!
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 21, 2008, 08:32:10 AM
And he still wasn't competitive!

Rumor has it, it was a 1 pt. decision....
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: kmhphoto on October 21, 2008, 08:34:08 AM
Rumor has it, it was a 1 pt. decision....

It was very close between him and MIke Stand.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 21, 2008, 08:35:59 AM
It was very close between him and MIke Stand.

Maybe it was Claude Rains he beat....
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: emn1964 on October 21, 2008, 08:43:59 AM
Maybe it was Claude Rains he beat....

Or maybe the supplement company he pimps for and who sponsored the show BOUGHT him the title.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 21, 2008, 08:46:02 AM
Or maybe the supplement company he pimps for and who sponsored the show BOUGHT him the title.

That would be funny if not for the fact that the company was not a sponsor.....good detective work
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: QuakerOats on October 21, 2008, 08:47:12 AM
hahahhaa, Basile getting destroyed here. ;D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 21, 2008, 09:23:15 AM
Like John Balik said, 'Arnold doesn't have time for the old gang anymore'.  

Yes, Arnold should be deeply ashamed of distancing himself from "The Old Gang."

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 21, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
Where did you go, Basile?  Tell everyone how you were the only competitor in the 1970 Mr. Canada
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Tapeworm on October 21, 2008, 06:55:08 PM
Vince looked good back in the day.  Unfortunately, he decided to celebrate his victory with a large pizza, 4 big macs, a half gallon of Coke, a large milkshake, and a deep fried sugar coated stick of butter... every single day.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Tamer Razor on October 21, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Victory  ???
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on October 21, 2008, 11:56:09 PM
He associated with people who could advance his career.

So he should have associated with people who would bring him down and get him nowhere in life?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: kawaks on October 22, 2008, 01:56:59 AM
Where did you go, Basile?  Tell everyone how you were the only competitor in the 1970 Mr. Canada

Only if you pray-tell about your exogenous use/abuse of anabolic / androgenic compounds within IFBB contests Bob.
No slagging match please. Keep it polite. And answer the question. ;-)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 22, 2008, 05:05:20 AM
or maybe he was an appointed official for the organization he was competing in, and the gave him the title,
for his countless hours of damage control on the internet. Just like you Bob.

That would be funny if not for the fact that the company was not a sponsor.....good detective work
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 22, 2008, 05:46:25 AM
or maybe he was an appointed official for the organization he was competing in, and the gave him the title,
for his countless hours of damage control on the internet. Just like you Bob.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


LMFAO!!

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: io856 on October 22, 2008, 05:55:29 AM
(http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Mr+Canada+-+IFBB&y=1970)
 ;D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 08:00:14 AM
or maybe he was an appointed official for the organization he was competing in, and the gave him the title,
for his countless hours of damage control on the internet. Just like you Bob.


WOW, another great comeback....except I'm not an official, nor do I get paid.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: dr.chimps on October 22, 2008, 08:13:24 AM
WOW, another great comeback....except I'm not an official, nor do I get paid.
LOL. Chickster? You're arguing with a guy called 'McFatty' - you should be getting paid for that!   :D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: RZA on October 22, 2008, 08:17:29 AM
WOW, another great comeback....except I'm not an official, nor do I get paid.

That's all the advice needed for those who were thinking about becoming BB pros.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 08:21:33 AM
That's all the advice needed for those who were thinking about becoming BB pros.

I got news for you, there are a lot of pros making a nice living from the business...
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: RZA on October 22, 2008, 08:24:18 AM
I got news for you, there are a lot of pros making a nice living from the business...

Define "a lot". Define "a nice living" also, please.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 08:27:32 AM
That's all the advice needed for those who were thinking about becoming BB pros.

Sure...define how you come to this statement first...
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 22, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
comeback? just another accurate observation.

you are the "ifbb athletes rep" an official ifbb position.
they certainly paid you, with a tainted "win".


you certainly like to think you're an official?

WOW, another great comeback....except I'm not an official, nor do I get paid.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: QuakerOats on October 22, 2008, 08:50:08 AM
sounds like you hurt a few peoples feelings by speaking the truth as usual Bob.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 08:54:27 AM
comeback? just another accurate observation.

you are the "ifbb athletes rep" an official ifbb position.
they certainly paid you, with a tainted "win".


you certainly like to think you're an official?


Tainted?  You obviously werent there....kind of makes it tough to have an "accurate" observation...doesn't it?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 22, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
being Jim Manion's boy and a devoted IFBB follower kind of makes is "tough" for you to see how
you win was handed to you.

an IFBB official competing in an IFBB contest.... gee I wonder who had the advantage.

the truth hurts, but you can deny if it makes you feel better.

Tainted?  You obviously werent there....kind of makes it tough to have an "accurate" observation...doesn't it?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 10:00:13 AM
being Jim Manion's boy and a devoted IFBB follower kind of makes is "tough" for you to see how
you win was handed to you.

an IFBB official competing in an IFBB contest.... gee I wonder who had the advantage.

the truth hurts, but you can deny if it makes you feel better.


Once again...I know it's tough to comprehend...but I'm not an IFBB official....don't wear a Blue Blazer...and do not serve on the board of governors.

The only advantage I had, was having the best physique on that day...If it was "handed to me"...then it was because all the guys I called out 14 weeks before the show, didn't compete....anyone eligable had a chance to show up....I'm not responsible for who competes and in what shape they show up in.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: delta9mda on October 22, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
2008 arnold classic - ben stood onstage with arnold and talked about the need for a constitutional amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to be President...
yes he did, i was there
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 22, 2008, 11:44:34 AM
so now you are completely independent of the IFBB??

your title "IFBB athletes representative" must be something you made up then , right?

don't worry about your show Chick, I still had you in the top 5.

this "conflict of interest" phenomenon is quite the norm in the IFBB.

Once again...I know it's tough to comprehend...but I'm not an IFBB official....don't wear a Blue Blazer...and do not serve on the board of governors.

The only advantage I had, was having the best physique on that day...If it was "handed to me"...then it was because all the guys I called out 14 weeks before the show, didn't compete....anyone eligable had a chance to show up....I'm not responsible for who competes and in what shape they show up in.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 03:57:20 PM
so now you are completely independent of the IFBB??

your title "IFBB athletes representative" must be something you made up then , right?

don't worry about your show Chick, I still had you in the top 5.

this "conflict of interest" phenomenon is quite the norm in the IFBB.


The IFBB recognizes the athlete reps as "official" in our capacity to represent the athletes...that doesn't make us "IFBB officials"...two different animals.

Judges are officials, the pres and vice pres and secretary are officials, etc....we are not.


Get it now?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: bulkdawg562 on October 22, 2008, 05:16:17 PM
There's always alot of negativity on these boards, we all know this industry isn't portrayed in the best light so why continue spreading negativity. Anyway... the point I'm trying to make is in regards to the passing of Mr. Weider, many condolences to his family. wouldn't it be great if there would be a Ben Weider Invitational or Classic in honor of Ben? Just a thought, hope this sport continues to grow in a positive direction.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 22, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
2008 arnold classic - ben stood onstage with arnold and talked about the need for a constitutional amendment allowing foreign-born citizens to be President...
you mean arnold can't run for president?  >:(  :'(
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: ASJChaotic on October 22, 2008, 05:49:44 PM

Not unless he gets a forged birth certificate saying he was born in Hawaii like Obama did.
goatboy predicted the death before it happened
pretty impressive  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: HeyNow on October 22, 2008, 06:24:43 PM
Arnold would likely be better than the two we pick from in this election.
I agree, he is a self-made man.   I think he is a great example of the "American Dream".
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 22, 2008, 07:37:41 PM
so you serve the IFBB in an officially titled capacity, but you're not an official?

you can play with semantics all you like,
but the fact is that you represent the IFBB, and you also compete(d) in IFBB contests at the same time.


The IFBB recognizes the athlete reps as "official" in our capacity to represent the athletes...that doesn't make us "IFBB officials"...two different animals.

Judges are officials, the pres and vice pres and secretary are officials, etc....we are not.


Get it now?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 22, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
so you serve the IFBB in an officially titled capacity, but you're not an official?

you can play with semantics all you like,
but the fact is that you represent the IFBB, and you also compete(d) in IFBB contests at the same time.



No semantics needed...you just need a course in comprehension. I don't work for the IFBB in any "official" capacity. I work for the athletes in a Official capacity.

It's really not that hard to understand (for most, anyway)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Vince B on October 23, 2008, 01:39:02 AM
Let's see where Bob is at. He is officially the officially appointed pro athletes rep. He has an official contract with the Weider organization. He was officially the MC at the last Olympia but of course that is not the same as being an official. Bob conducts meetings on behalf of the IFBB for the athletes so he has an official capacity. He is responsible to those who appointed him to his official position. What is unclear is how he represented the athletes from behind the microphone. I mean, it probably took Bob a week to learn how to pronounce all those foreign names!

For a guy who is not an official of the IFBB it is odd how he is the internet defender and apologist for the IFBB. He is the official lap dog, patsy and fall guy for the IFBB. What is beautiful is that they appoint stooges who are oblivious of what they are doing. In this way the annointed feel important and remain ever loyal to the organization.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: kmhphoto on October 23, 2008, 04:51:42 AM
Let's see where Bob is at. He is officially the officially appointed pro athletes rep. He has an official contract with the Weider organization. He was officially the MC at the last Olympia but of course that is not the same as being an official. Bob conducts meetings on behalf of the IFBB for the athletes so he has an official capacity. He is responsible to those who appointed him to his official position. What is unclear is how he represented the athletes from behind the microphone. I mean, it probably took Bob a week to learn how to pronounce all those foreign names!

For a guy who is not an official of the IFBB it is odd how he is the internet defender and apologist for the IFBB. He is the official lap dog, patsy and fall guy for the IFBB. What is beautiful is that they appoint stooges who are oblivious of what they are doing. In this way the annointed feel important and remain ever loyal to the organization.

Still taking photos of young kids ?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 23, 2008, 08:31:03 AM
You need some therapy for your delusional rationalizing.

Defending and outright lying for the IFBB (a job which you do a fine job of) does not equate to "working for the athletes".

You have been the recipient of many favors from the IFBB's top brass,
however unlikely that you would ever acknowledge such a fact.



No semantics needed...you just need a course in comprehension. I don't work for the IFBB in any "official" capacity. I work for the athletes in a Official capacity.

It's really not that hard to understand (for most, anyway)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 08:41:23 AM
Let's see where Bob is at. He is officially the officially appointed pro athletes rep. He has an official contract with the Weider organization. He was officially the MC at the last Olympia but of course that is not the same as being an official. Bob conducts meetings on behalf of the IFBB for the athletes so he has an official capacity. He is responsible to those who appointed him to his official position. What is unclear is how he represented the athletes from behind the microphone. I mean, it probably took Bob a week to learn how to pronounce all those foreign names!

For a guy who is not an official of the IFBB it is odd how he is the internet defender and apologist for the IFBB. He is the official lap dog, patsy and fall guy for the IFBB. What is beautiful is that they appoint stooges who are oblivious of what they are doing. In this way the annointed feel important and remain ever loyal to the organization.

What does any of this jibberish have to do with the question at hand you keep avoiding....was there anyone but yourself in the 1970 Mr Canada?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 23, 2008, 08:44:04 AM
What does any of this jibberish have to do with the question at hand you keep avoiding....was there anyone but yourself in the 1970 Mr Canada?

Are you saying Vince is getting evasive because he doesn't want to get his ass pounded even more although it's obvious he already has a huge cock up his backside?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 08:45:03 AM
You need some therapy for your delusional rationalizing.

Defending and outright lying for the IFBB (a job which you do a fine job of) does not equate to "working for the athletes".

You have been the recipient of many favors from the IFBB's top brass,
however unlikely that you would ever acknowledge such a fact.




Just making a bigger fool of yourself with every post....

And you're right, none of that equates working for the athletes....getting rules changed, more money in their pockets, health coverage, etc....does...all of which the official minutes show
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: polychronopolous on October 23, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
What does any of this jibberish have to do with the question at hand you keep avoiding....was there anyone but yourself in the 1970 Mr Canada?

So you are basically implying that he won 1970 Mr. Canada because he was the only guy that showed up that day?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 23, 2008, 08:50:19 AM
So you are basically implying that he won 1970 Mr. Canada because he was the only guy that showed up that day?

You could say he didn't have any competition that day!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 08:53:50 AM
So you are basically implying that he won 1970 Mr. Canada because he was the only guy that showed up that day?

The complete list is at www.musclememory.com

check it out
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: polychronopolous on October 23, 2008, 08:57:13 AM
The complete list is at www.musclememory.com

check it out

HAHA!!

It only has Vince Basille listed as a competitor!
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: emn1964 on October 23, 2008, 08:59:03 AM
The complete list is at www.musclememory.com

check it out

Just because there's only the winner listed doesn't mean he was the only guy that showed up.  Nice try puppet.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 09:00:18 AM
Just because there's only the winner listed doesn't mean he was the only guy that showed up.  Nice try puppet.

Well, I'm sure Basile can clear that up, right?  I'm sure a man of his calliber would never distort the truth, or mislead anyone....
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Stavios on October 23, 2008, 09:02:54 AM
Basile is marked down in history as the best canadian bodybuilder ever

in fact, when you win the overall at the canadian nationals, the trophy is a statue of Basile
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: DK II on October 23, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
Basile is marked down in history as the best canadian bodybuilder ever

in fact, when you win the overall at the canadian nationals, the trophy is a statue of Basile

LMFAO!

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 23, 2008, 10:49:50 AM
You seem to be in a perpetual state of denial.

maybe this will help you.

who appointed you as the "athletes rep" ??
was it the athletes??
NO
was it the IFBB (i.e. Manion)
YES

So you are in an official IFBB position, yet you competed in a show run by the IFBB and somehow won.

You "win" is a tainted one at best.....


Just making a bigger fool of yourself with every post....

And you're right, none of that equates working for the athletes....getting rules changed, more money in their pockets, health coverage, etc....does...all of which the official minutes show
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 23, 2008, 10:51:24 AM
Bob is apparently scared of the truth.

Let's see where Bob is at. He is officially the officially appointed pro athletes rep. He has an official contract with the Weider organization. He was officially the MC at the last Olympia but of course that is not the same as being an official. Bob conducts meetings on behalf of the IFBB for the athletes so he has an official capacity. He is responsible to those who appointed him to his official position. What is unclear is how he represented the athletes from behind the microphone. I mean, it probably took Bob a week to learn how to pronounce all those foreign names!

For a guy who is not an official of the IFBB it is odd how he is the internet defender and apologist for the IFBB. He is the official lap dog, patsy and fall guy for the IFBB. What is beautiful is that they appoint stooges who are oblivious of what they are doing. In this way the annointed feel important and remain ever loyal to the organization.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Vince B on October 23, 2008, 03:30:04 PM
Bob is the jackass of reps for athletes. Here he is trying to discredit a former IFBB Mr Canada by his crass and demeaning posts. Why would anyone representing IFBB athletes do that to anyone who has competed? Answer: he is under instructions to humiliate and discredit me for my outspoken posts re the IFBB. Bob is also pissed that I point out the obvious gift of his Masters win over Jeffers. We sympathize with him because 99 out of 100 winners always feel they deserved their titles. A rare one was Arnold admitting that Sergio was better than him in 72. Well, Arnold put it differently. He said, "If I had Sergio's physique I would have won!"

The Mr Canada 1970 contest was published in Muscle Builder and Ironman in 1971.  
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Ron on October 23, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
Quote
who appointed you as the "athletes rep" ??
was it the athletes??
NO
was it the IFBB (i.e. Manion)
YES

Because he wanted the position and no one else did. Simple as that.  Shawn Ray quit the position after fighting to get elected, because it isnt as easy as people think. It is a thankless position that always can create rifts.

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 03:41:16 PM
Bob is the jackass of reps for athletes. Here he is trying to discredit a former IFBB Mr Canada by his crass and demeaning posts. Why would anyone representing IFBB athletes do that to anyone who has competed? Answer: he is under instructions to humiliate and discredit me for my outspoken posts re the IFBB. Bob is also pissed that I point out the obvious gift of his Masters win over Jeffers. We sympathize with him because 99 out of 100 winners always feel they deserved their titles. A rare one was Arnold admitting that Sergio was better than him in 72. Well, Arnold put it differently. He said, "If I had Sergio's physique I would have won!"

The Mr Canada 1970 contest was published in Muscle Builder and Ironman in 1971.  

So answer the question already, Basile....were there, or were there not...other competitors you faced in the 1970 Mr. Canada?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: TrueGrit on October 23, 2008, 03:42:22 PM
Let's see where Bob is at. He is officially the officially appointed pro athletes rep. He has an official contract with the Weider organization. He was officially the MC at the last Olympia but of course that is not the same as being an official. Bob conducts meetings on behalf of the IFBB for the athletes so he has an official capacity. He is responsible to those who appointed him to his official position. What is unclear is how he represented the athletes from behind the microphone. I mean, it probably took Bob a week to learn how to pronounce all those foreign names!

For a guy who is not an official of the IFBB it is odd how he is the internet defender and apologist for the IFBB. He is the official lap dog, patsy and fall guy for the IFBB. What is beautiful is that they appoint stooges who are oblivious of what they are doing. In this way the annointed feel important and remain ever loyal to the organization.

 Seems to me that people are letting a personal agenda against Vince stop them seeing that this is a quite savage destruction of Bob.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 03:49:39 PM
You seem to be in a perpetual state of denial.

maybe this will help you.

who appointed you as the "athletes rep" ??
was it the athletes??
NO
was it the IFBB (i.e. Manion)
YES

So you are in an official IFBB position, yet you competed in a show run by the IFBB and somehow won.

You "win" is a tainted one at best.....




Not too bright are you?

Even IF, I was appointed the position...that doesn't make the position an "IFBB official" capacity.

That said...I was given the position as Shawn vacated it...and no one else wanted the responsibility....to this date, no one has wanted to run against me for the job....and I have said from day one, it is open to anyone who wishes to run for it...at ANY time.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 03:51:36 PM
Seems to me that people are letting a personal agenda against Vince stop them seeing that this is a quite savage destruction of Bob.

Not quite...it's a lack of logic and comprehension, that allows for someone like yourself to think so.

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Stavios on October 23, 2008, 03:53:20 PM
Hey Bob, are you paid to be the athlete's rep or you do it out of passion for the sport ?
hope you are paid, seems like you always get a lot of shit for no reason
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: johnny1 on October 23, 2008, 03:55:50 PM
Just a change of subject here, Chick have you any plans @ all for future BB shows? any plans for another acting role?..the last BB show were @ you were in great Condation, just wondering if your going to have another shot @ BB or have you packed it in?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 03:56:40 PM
Hey Bob, are you paid to be the athlete's rep or you do it out of passion for the sport ?
hope you are paid, seems like you always get a lot of shit for no reason

No...there is no pay and the only people I get shit from, are the fools on the internet that don't know whats going on....I have yet to receive a complaint from an athlete.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
Just a change of subject here, Chick have you any plans @ all for future BB shows? any plans for another acting role?..the last BB show were @ you were in great Condation, just wondering if your going to have another shot @ BB or have you packed it in?

Acting:  Movie called "I love you, man" coming out around Christmas time/ New Years....of course...I play a bodybuilder.

Competing:  No plans
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: johnny1 on October 23, 2008, 04:00:44 PM
Acting:  Movie called "I love you, man" coming out around Christmas time/ New Years....of course...I play a bodybuilder.

Competing:  No plans
Thanks mate all the best. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Vince B on October 23, 2008, 04:05:09 PM
Bob Chick wasn't in the loop in 1970 so I guess that is why he has to ask if I was the only contestant in the Mr Canada that year! Appoint him athletes rep because he is clueless.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Chick on October 23, 2008, 05:40:52 PM
Bob Chick wasn't in the loop in 1970 so I guess that is why he has to ask if I was the only contestant in the Mr Canada that year! Appoint him athletes rep because he is clueless.

So whats the answer, Basile?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: QuakerOats on October 23, 2008, 05:43:31 PM
Bob Chick wasn't in the loop in 1970 so I guess that is why he has to ask if I was the only contestant in the Mr Canada that year! Appoint him athletes rep because he is clueless.
i think he was 5 years old in '70 so i don't think he was up on who was winning Canadian contests then but why do you keep avoiding the question?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 23, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
Perhaps all of the other potential competitors realized the futility of competing against Vince?
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: kawaks on October 23, 2008, 08:38:40 PM
What does any of this jibberish have to do with the question at hand you keep avoiding....was there anyone but yourself in the 1970 Mr Canada?

Stop playing little child games Bob!

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Basile,+Vince

Vince had a great physique for the 1970's timeframe. Here's something new: how about respecting the elders of bodybuilding?

Vince has many decades of knowledge and experience, maybe listen to his wisdom and you might live to his age? ';-=)

Here's something to cheer you up Bob:
http://ovincez.smugmug.com/Vince

Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 24, 2008, 03:48:32 AM
Not too honest are you?

Yes you were given the position by your good buddy Mr. Manion.
The job was hardly "open" to anyone.

You have shown us all the "responsibility" of your IFBB position,
Say anything (i.e. lie) to protect the good name of the IFBB and the rewards will come....i.e. a tainted win.



Not too bright are you?

Even IF, I was appointed the position...that doesn't make the position an "IFBB official" capacity.

That said...I was given the position as Shawn vacated it...and no one else wanted the responsibility....to this date, no one has wanted to run against me for the job....and I have said from day one, it is open to anyone who wishes to run for it...at ANY time.
Title: Re: Ben Weider - Arnold Schwarzenegger statement
Post by: McFatty on October 24, 2008, 03:52:18 AM
Bobs salary = 2006 Masters Championships 1st place after showing up smooth as sh*t

Hey Bob, are you paid to be the athlete's rep or you do it out of passion for the sport ?
hope you are paid, seems like you always get a lot of shit for no reason