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Rasmussen poll: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain
"When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin.
The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%.
Three other sitting governors – Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota – all pull low single-digit support."
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You got a problem with that.
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You got a problem with that.
not me, I hope she wins the nomination... sure deal for Obama.
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not me, I hope she wins the nomination... sure deal for Obama.
Don't be too smug Mr Chavez. She generated a lot of hype in a very short time. Next time with more preparation and a clear campaign strategy, you may find the race to be much closer.
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Don't be too smug Mr Chavez. She generated a lot of hype in a very short time. Next time with more preparation and a clear campaign strategy, you may find the race to be much closer.
That Carl Cameron segment will make a dandy political ad, can't wait :) I'll campaign for Palin in the Primary ;D
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Great then it will ensure Obama is president another four years
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64% of GOP are morons.......thats actually lower than I thought
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That actually makes alot of sense to me... because I have a feeling that 64% of the GOP voted for Obama this time.
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Haha if the recent weeks and months of Palin humiliation didn't put people off, I don't know what ever will.
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If she is considered as the frontrunner for the GOP, I think there's a real chance for a new party forming.
The Republicans who won't support Palin's fight against everything intellectual and educated - they could very well feel enough is enough.
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Don't be too smug Mr Chavez. She generated a lot of hype in a very short time. Next time with more preparation and a clear campaign strategy, you may find the race to be much closer.
Her problem isn't just lack of preparation and campaign strategy, it's lack of intelligence.
While the "core" christian right may vote for a republican no matter the circumstances, the moderate majority are going to see her lack of intelligence as a deal breaker.
She can be "educated" on strategy and political science, but she can't be made "smart."
The idea of "teaching political science" to someone running for president is absurd. It's also a slap in the face to anyone with political aspirations preparing the LSAT while a presidential candidate is being taught basic social studies.
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By then she'll have another 6 kids and need more clothes.
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If she is considered as the frontrunner for the GOP, I think there's a real chance for a new party forming.
The Republicans who won't support Palin's fight against everything intellectual and educated - they could very well feel enough is enough.
Yep... I don't necessarily mean what you said about Palin, but look at the trend over the past 20-30 years or more... BOTH of the two big parties have gradually drifted to the left. And honestly who knows if the Republicans are going to get back on track with their stated party values.
Look for these guys to possibly gain more of a following with disenfranchised conservatives in the coming years:
http://www.constitutionparty.com/ (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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It really defies logic they think she is suitable, she is a laughing stock that couldn't even answer basic questions :-\
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This poll taken a few days after the election is completely myopic.
Give it a few months and Palin will be all but forgotten.
Personally I would love to see that dingbat run is 2012. She would get smashed to a pulp in the primaries but it would at least be entertaining.
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They need a white guy and a black or female VP.
If the economy rebounds and we're almost out of Iraq, Obama will be pretty hard to beat.
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This poll taken a few days after the election is completely myopic.
Give it a few months and Palin will be all but forgotten.
Personally I would love to see that dingbat run is 2012. She would get smashed to a pulp in the primaries but it would at least be entertaining.
Exactly.
I mean where else can the republicans find another dull normal candidate to energize the dull normal republican base?
She has the Rigth values and skills to bring this country together into the 19th century.
These selfish little republican people don't care one wit about how their stupidity hurts the country, as long as their self-deluded minimally capable candidate wins.
The rightwing has never been viable from an issues perspective b/c its core values are at odds with the best interests of middle america.
Rightwingers are and always have been monied elitests. They must lie and fool the middle class to garner its votes.
What better way to rope in suckers than to give them one of their own?....a regular person with whom you could have a beer?
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It really defies logic they think she is suitable, she is a laughing stock that couldn't even answer basic questions :-\
It's amazing she would even have a second of consideration.
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It's amazing she would even have a second of consideration.
consider our countrys mean IQ..... mid 90's ? :-\
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Rasmussen poll: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain
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Only 64% I am shocked ::)
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not me, I hope she wins the nomination... sure deal for Obama.
exactly, she can rev up the base, but thats about it, she scares independents and democrats away, and even some repubs.
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I hope they nominate her in 2012...it'll give the Dems an easy win. & as an added bonus the debates & her refusal to answer questions will be a blast to watch.
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I hope she runs as well.
Recall the GOP turns on itself royally during the primaries, they are the party that brought McCain's adopted daughter into play when she was 8 and slurred his wife on robocalls. They will shred her during the primaries, will be most entertaining. :D
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She'll run but won't get the nod. People liked her but she would need to build more of a reputation to appease younger voters who dislike her at present. I think it's gonna be Huckabee or a wild card we aren't even discussing right now.
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She'll run but won't get the nod. People liked her but she would need to build more of a reputation to appease younger voters who dislike her at present. I think it's gonna be Huckabee or a wild card we aren't even discussing right now.
I think you're right about the wild card. Huckleberry Hound would have been a much better choice than Palin for a VP. He would have still appealed to the evangelical base and he's a smart, affable guy and he would have been much more appealing to the party in a broader sense. I think McCain really wanted a weak VP and just had no clue how weak Palin really was.
If Palin can actually raise the $$$ and run in 2012 she'll be crucified in the first debate and secure her place as national laughing stock yet again.
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I think you're right about the wild card. Huckleberry Hound would have been a much better choice than Palin for a VP. He would have still appealed to the evangelical base and he's a smart, affable guy and he would have been much more appealing to the party in a broader sense. I think McCain really wanted a weak VP and just had no clue how weak Palin really was.
If Palin can actually raise the $$$ and run in 2012 she'll be crucified in the first debate and secure her place as national laughing stock yet again.
I agree 100% on your assessment of Huckabee. I think Huckabee should run for the Senate, get some more exposure and experience and return in 2008. He is more conservative than McCain from what I have seen, is not a stupid man and appeals to the Christians in the Republican party. McCain got the nod because of experience and not being a Mormon. Huck's only problem is that he came off a bit weak IMO. He can turn that around and win at least the nomination. If Obama falters like I think he will, a renewed Huckabee could take it. Shit, he has Chuck Norris' approval...what more do you need?
Palin should really get more governmental experience after this election. She's not a bad politician but she came off too common, which to the common voters was bad thing. I don't necessarily agree but it's all about perception, but with more time she could be the first woman president. This election reminds me so much of what I learned about the 1960 election, the Carter administration, and Hitler's rise to power. Cool, weird, and sad all wrapped into one.
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I agree 100% on your assessment of Huckabee. I think Huckabee should run for the Senate, get some more exposure and experience and return in 2008. He is more conservative than McCain from what I have seen, is not a stupid man and appeals to the Christians in the Republican party. McCain got the nod because of experience and not being a Mormon. Huck's only problem is that he came off a bit weak IMO. He can turn that around and win at least the nomination. If Obama falters like I think he will, a renewed Huckabee could take it. Shit, he has Chuck Norris' approval...what more do you need?
Palin should really get more governmental experience after this election. She's not a bad politician but she came off too common, which to the common voters was bad thing. I don't necessarily agree but it's all about perception, but with more time she could be the first woman president. This election reminds me so much of what I learned about the 1960 election, the Carter administration, and Hitler's rise to power. Cool, weird, and sad all wrapped into one.
I can't see Huck as POTUS (for some of the reasons you mentioned) but I can see him as a very viable Repub candidate for VP with crossover appeal to many segments of both parties. I find myself liking the guy even though there's almost nothing he stands for that I agree with.
I think Palin (to her detriment) is an open book and that book is a coloring book. She has no place in any role of national leadership (IMO). He only major accomplishment as a governor was to raise taxes on oil companies and pass out the $$$ to the citiznes of Alaska. I'm pretty sure any governor that can do that will have a high approval rating.
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If Palin can actually raise the $$$ and run in 2012 she'll be crucified in the first debate and secure her place as national laughing stock yet again.
She's a moron and she won't be any smarter by 2012, but she actually did okay in the debates. Where she fucked up in her interviews is when she was asked to elaborate on the typical political bs . She can dish out one small serving just fine, but she really fucks up on the details.
It's funny, the same people who bash Obama as being vague and having no substance think Palin is presidential material who just needs to brush up on geography for the next election.
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. This election reminds me so much of what I learned about the 1960 election, the Carter administration, and Hitler's rise to power. Cool, weird, and sad all wrapped into one.
If this election could be compared to any previous election, it would be the 1980 election
The Hitler comparisons are essentially just typical internet rhetoric that both sides engage in every election cycle. No one ever accused Godwin's law of being false.
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She's a moron and she won't be any smarter by 2012, but she actually did okay in the debates. Where she fucked up in her interviews is when she was asked to elaborate on the typical political bs . She can dish out one small serving just fine, but she really fucks up on the details.
It's funny, the same people who bash Obama as being vague and having no substance think Palin is presidential material who just needs to brush up on geography for the next election.
yeah that is pretty ironic
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If this election could be compared to any previous election, it would be the 1980 election
The Hitler comparisons are essentially just typical internet rhetoric that both sides engage in every election cycle. No one ever accused Godwin's law of being false.
1960 and 1976 actually, thanks for helping me think a bit more
1960 and now
Young Kennedy, Young Obama
Old looking Nixon, Old McCain
Young inspired by Kennedy, Young inspired by Obama
1976 and now
People tired of Repubs (Nixon, Ford), People tired of Repubs (Bush)
Hitler and Obama
Both came to power with their oratory skills, when their countries were under economic stress, and both were inexperienced
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1960 and 1976 actually, thanks for helping me think a bit more
1960 and now
Young Kennedy, Young Obama
Old looking Nixon, Old McCain
Young inspired by Kennedy, Young inspired by Obama
1976 and now
People tired of Repubs (Nixon, Ford), People tired of Repubs (Bush)
Hitler and Obama
Both came to power with their oratory skills, when their countries were under economic stress, and both were inexperienced
you can't be serious
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you can't be serious
I didn't say there would be mass genocide, I'm just talking about rise to power.
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1960 and 1976 actually, thanks for helping me think a bit more
1960 and now
Young Kennedy, Young Obama
Old looking Nixon, Old McCain
Young inspired by Kennedy, Young inspired by Obama
1976 and now
People tired of Repubs (Nixon, Ford), People tired of Repubs (Bush)
Hitler and Obama
Both came to power with their oratory skills, when their countries were under economic stress, and both were inexperienced
These comparisons are about as vague and superficial as you can get. You could just as easily (and, perhaps, more appropriately) compare Obama to MLK. Or even Clinton. Or even Abraham Lincoln With examples that shallow, there's no limit to the comparisons you could make.
You could possibly make an argument that Obama and Kennedy had a similar effect on their young constituents, but the recent election was nothing like the Kennedy/Nixon race.
The Carter race was also very different. Ford was never elected and was not considered a Republican superstar. He actually had to campaign against Ronald Reagan to receive the republican nomination. Reagan had already established such a strong base of support that some might say it foreshadowed the PUMA rift of this year's democratic party. Despite all this, by the election, Ford managed to come neck-to-neck with Carter on election day. Some people believe that he would have won if the election had lasted two more weeks.
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Ron Paul needs to step up 2012...big time...
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I think you're right about the wild card. Huckleberry Hound would have been a much better choice than Palin for a VP. He would have still appealed to the evangelical base and he's a smart, affable guy and he would have been much more appealing to the party in a broader sense. I think McCain really wanted a weak VP and just had no clue how weak Palin really was.
If Palin can actually raise the $$$ and run in 2012 she'll be crucified in the first debate and secure her place as national laughing stock yet again.
I could not agree more.