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What's your opinions on Obama's press conference?
I'm refering to the actual content.
I was pleased to hear that he's already planning to launch a plan that will stimulate the economy.
The focus on economy in general was IMO much welcomed and needed.
Feels good that he's got a big board of advisors, from all spectrums.
The advisors on economy seems if anything non-partisan.
Any thoughts?
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He's going to need all those advisiors because he never ran anything in he life, so IMO he can't run this country. His Health Care plane will not work you will be waiting 6 months to see a Doctor, and he's going to tax the rich and give money to those who don't pay taxes you know spread the wealth. So now big busniess will lay off people because they can't afford their tax increases. It's socalisum all the way.
Listen to how he talks, he can't get the answers out fast enough he studders. ah eh well eh or just avoid the question all together, not saying Mc Cain was better (he was) but he had answers and was quick to answer them.
AMERICA is going down hard with this one, people believe anything don't they.
Hey at least Sara Palin is his VP that's why i voted for obama lol. stupid people did't even know who his VP was and do you know why?? Because Their STUPID and they don't know one thing that he stands for.
You can say all you want to me. Don't care! You're Going down, all the way down ha! ha! suckers.
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Most small businesses would close or lay off many people if his tax and health care plans went into affect. Owners could not afford to insure that many people. Also, the price of many goods and services will go up. Gas and oil are down right now. If he cuts the tax breaks to the oil companies they have already said the cost would be transferred to the consumer, i.e. higher gas prices. They get their money one way or another.
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Obama is weak, a modern day Chamberlain. Everyone wanted him to become the President now lets see how they like it when shit starts falling apart.
I hope Obama has picked out a nice dress, bra and panties to wear to meet with medvedev/putin.
If he gonna be Russia's bitch he should dress the part.
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None of these people realize what the fuck has just happened. People all over the world are regarding this man as some sort of messiah. Its ludicrous! The last time people were talking like that the world was changed forever. This man was also a socialists who used a scapegoat to weasel his way into power and no one realized it til it was to late. His name was adolf hitler, he used the jews to blame germany's depression. Obama used the bush administration. I'm not saying that he will cause a world-wide holocaust but do the research for yourself, the similarities are striking.
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Obama is weak, a modern day Chamberlain. Everyone wanted him to become the President now lets see how they like it when shit starts falling apart.
I hope Obama has picked out a nice dress, bra and panties to wear to meet with medvedev/putin.
If he gonna be Russia's bitch he should dress the part.
uhhhh.... lol.... starts falling apart? Yea, lets blame him for Bush ::)
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So what do you guys think about what he talked about in the press conference?
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very vague press conference, but good to see a unified team this early. way ahead of clinton or bush in cabinet assembly.
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Lots of Clinton flunkies at that press conference.
Also a lot of "uhhhs."
Obama is simply unlistenable to without a teleprompter.
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Say goodbye to the care free Bush era. Obama's gonna wreck the paradise on Earth he's built.
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obama is a yes-man/ robot/ puppet for the liberal machine. He does not think on his own or have any plans or ideas of his own. If he does he will only do them if his leaders tell him it's ok. He has always done what his party states and never challenges anything.
America always gets what it asks for, so here ya go. The fact of the matter is this country is greatly divided by this whole thing. Obama won by a narrow margin, 52%. Those that voted for him are in for a rude awakening.
While George Bush was not the best leader and has cost this country dearly in a few areas, to vote for "change" not knowing what that "change" is, is down right scary. The Germans did the same thing with Hitler.
Too many people in this country want to be taken care of instead of being self sustained. Too many people in this country are lazy and, want others to do for them. Too many people in this country wish for us to be like Europe. Our forefathers left Europe for good reason, to get as far away from governmant tyranny and, control as possible. To build a nation of independant free thinkings and builders. The people who built this country did so without all the whinning and crying that a lot of people do today. Our lives are very easy today. We have all the modern toys that 100 years ago would be un- emaginable. Yet people still say life is too hard.
I wish for an America filled with independant hardworking people who only ask for the opportunity to do so. Not ask for the rewards without the work. Not ask others to give to them because they are deemed to have enough or too much. When the government gets involved in business and regulates it, the profit goes down and, so does the motivation to do better. Those of you who wish for government control on health care.......it would only make it worse. Doctors are well educated smart hard working people who, will not stand for the government telling them how to do their work and regulate their pay. They instead will simply get out of the medicine field and, move onto something else. There will also be less people motivated to got to college for 9 years to be a doctor if the governmant is regulating medicine. The healthcare system is a mess right now, yet the government will only make it worse.
I really feel that obama is nothing more than a tool for socialists in this country whom have been trying to tear the fundamental core values of this country apart. I only hope people wake up before its too late.
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Thanks Eric2, great input.
But what do you think about the press conference?
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Lots of Clinton flunkies at that press conference.
Also a lot of "uhhhs."
Obama is simply unlistenable to without a teleprompter.
have you even listened to Bush speak? LOL... how can you get on Obama for that after Bush? bwhahahahahaha
This about sums it up ;D
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bama won by a narrow margin, 52%.
Obama got 52% of the vote, McCain 46%- an 8 million vote difference. Not exactly narrow.
I only hope people wake up before its too late.
He.s the President Elect. You might not want to hold your breath.
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have you even listened to Bush speak? LOL... how can you get on Obama for that after Bush? bwhahahahahaha
This about sums it up ;D
People in this thread are acting like the bush years didn't happen. Obama could spend the next 8 years working with NASA to come up with a way to cause the earth to spin off its axis and collide with the sun and he wouldstill be only a slightly worse president than W.
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People in this thread are acting like the bush years didn't happen. Obama could spend the next 8 years working with NASA to come up with a way to cause the earth to spin off its axis and collide with the sun and he wouldstill be only a slightly worse president than W.
lol, yup.
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Thanks Eric2, great input.
But what do you think about the press conference?
I think he spoke a lot about how stressed the economy is, all of the things we already know. I did not get the affirmation that he really knows how to fix anything however. To be quite truthfull though.......no one man President can fix this economy. It is something that is going to take work from all aspects of the countries resourses. Allow business to grow, not tax it or regulate it.
I will say this, if obama and his "team" do kick ass and effect change for the better then I will be the first to congradulate and state so. I really hope he can make change for the better, we really need it. I just do not see how a socialist can effect good change to our country though. We will see.
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Obama got 52% of the vote, McCain 46%- an 8 million vote difference. Not exactly narrow.
He.s the President Elect. You might not want to hold your breath.
% wise this is a narrow victory. The math states so. He won yes, but by a narrow margin. He was and is not as popular as the media made him out to be. This is a fact.
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% wise this is a narrow victory. The math states so. He won yes, but by a narrow margin. He was and is not as popular as the media made him out to be. This is a fact.
he won by more than Bush both times and in 2004 they called the margin a mandate ;)
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he won by more than Bush both times and in 2004 they called the margin a mandate ;)
Yeah, there's really no way his victory can be defined as narrow. It's pretty decisive.
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Yeah, there's really no way his victory can be defined as narrow. It's pretty decisive.
They'll have a hard time arguing it after calling Bush's 2004 election a mandate. Bushies never think ahead lol...
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The Bush victories where very narrow indeed. My point was that of the media being wrong about obama's popularity.
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% wise this is a narrow victory. The math states so. He won yes, but by a narrow margin. He was and is not as popular as the media made him out to be. This is a fact.
R u retarded? he won by a large margin! got close to 53% of the vote, won red states that have been red for 70 years ie IN. He won big! 1-2% is a narrow win, 6% is a huge win. Just think 10,000,000 more people picked Obama over mcbush.
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What's your opinions on Obama's press conference?
I'm refering to the actual content.
I was pleased to hear that he's already planning to launch a plan that will stimulate the economy.
The focus on economy in general was IMO much welcomed and needed.
Feels good that he's got a big board of advisors, from all spectrums.
The advisors on economy seems if anything non-partisan.
Any thoughts?
Just Imagine if Sarah Palin was at that press conference instead of Obama :-X She could have been the president, just thank God she didnt make. And yes Sarah will run in 2012, but she will lose just as bad as mcbush did to Obama again in 2012.
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The Bush victories where very narrow indeed. My point was that of the media being wrong about obama's popularity.
cool avatar,
for a guy that was painted as a terrorist buddy, socialist, marxist and with the name Barack Hussein Obama and is black, I would have to say he exceeded expectations by quite a bit.
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The Bush victories where very narrow indeed. My point was that of the media being wrong about obama's popularity.
He's obviously a very popular candidate. Just take a look at his drawing power during the campaign. Criticize it all you want, but there probably isn't another politician that could draw tens of thousands to a campaign speech.
Most people vote along party lines and McCain came into the campaign with a LOT of political currency. Considering the unprecedented levels of paranoia ahe right tried to generate (and so many in this thread appear to have bought into),his victory percentage is prety impressive.
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R u retarded? he won by a large margin! got close to 53% of the vote, won red states that have been red for 70 years ie IN. He won big! 1-2% is a narrow win, 6% is a huge win. Just think 10,000,000 more people picked Obama over mcbush.
Indiana is a huge win but 1964 was not 70 years ago ;)
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R u retarded? he won by a large margin! got close to 53% of the vote, won red states that have been red for 70 years ie IN. He won big! 1-2% is a narrow win, 6% is a huge win. Just think 10,000,000 more people picked Obama over mcbush.
Obama got a few hundred thousand more votes than Bush did 4 years ago and there are several million more people in American now than there were 4 years ago. I know that your small brain won't understand that but Obama certainly didn't get the massive approval the media was proclaiming he would. In fact he won only because of the hatred for Bush. He's a complete media creation.
And MattT, you are the probably the last person on this board who should call someone retarded. Ever heard of the pot and the kettle?
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This isn't a huge win by historic gauges, but it is a huge win for the divisive period we're in.
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uhhhh.... lol.... starts falling apart? Yea, lets blame him for Bush ::)
That Bush shit is has been played out, is that the only thing you can say bro, ya Bush was part of the problem
but their were others involed and if you look back or do your home work it started in the Clinton era.
Fannie May, Freddie Mac lets give equal housing to all people who should't have gotten a morgage in the first place, so they fixed it and lied about people's credit so they could get the morgage loans. So 10 years ago you only had to pay the interest on your loan, then 10 years later you had to pay the Sub Prime and the interest
loan of your morgage, and most people could't afford to pay it so they forclosed, so who do we blame the morgage companies, the people or both or since it happend when Bush was President we'll just blame him.
Like i said before you believe what you have heard from the obama side and it worked and you believed it.
Now the shit will hit the fan, watch all his bullshit will.
HUGO open your mind up and try not to be one sided, there were alot of things i did't like about or agree
on with Mc Cain bro.
Let me as you Hugo, if you were on the weight pile and rpped the fuck out of your shoulder and you had to have some major surgery on it, would you let someone opperate on it that never has opperated before??
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Lots of Clinton flunkies at that press conference.
Also a lot of "uhhhs."
Obama is simply unlistenable to without a teleprompter.
Uhhh, eh, i,o,u what was the question, let me get a advisor on that ?
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obama is a yes-man/ robot/ puppet for the liberal machine. He does not think on his own or have any plans or ideas of his own. If he does he will only do them if his leaders tell him it's ok. He has always done what his party states and never challenges anything.
America always gets what it asks for, so here ya go. The fact of the matter is this country is greatly divided by this whole thing. Obama won by a narrow margin, 52%. Those that voted for him are in for a rude awakening.
While George Bush was not the best leader and has cost this country dearly in a few areas, to vote for "change" not knowing what that "change" is, is down right scary. The Germans did the same thing with Hitler.
Too many people in this country want to be taken care of instead of being self sustained. Too many people in this country are lazy and, want others to do for them. Too many people in this country wish for us to be like Europe. Our forefathers left Europe for good reason, to get as far away from governmant tyranny and, control as possible. To build a nation of independant free thinkings and builders. The people who built this country did so without all the whinning and crying that a lot of people do today. Our lives are very easy today. We have all the modern toys that 100 years ago would be un- emaginable. Yet people still say life is too hard.
I wish for an America filled with independant hardworking people who only ask for the opportunity to do so. Not ask for the rewards without the work. Not ask others to give to them because they are deemed to have enough or too much. When the government gets involved in business and regulates it, the profit goes down and, so does the motivation to do better. Those of you who wish for government control on health care.......it would only make it worse. Doctors are well educated smart hard working people who, will not stand for the government telling them how to do their work and regulate their pay. They instead will simply get out of the medicine field and, move onto something else. There will also be less people motivated to got to college for 9 years to be a doctor if the governmant is regulating medicine. The healthcare system is a mess right now, yet the government will only make it worse.
I really feel that obama is nothing more than a tool for socialists in this country whom have been trying to tear the fundamental core values of this country apart. I only hope people wake up before its too late.
WELL SAID BRO. To the point, week people lay around and want to be takin care of, food stamps, well fair. They don't even pay taxes and their going to gt a refund from my had work under the O'Shit Bama plan, Fuc..That
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During this economic crisis that America is in this is a big win. Bush did not get over 300 elector votes in both 2000 and 2004. Obama crushed mcbush with over 360 elector votes. This is a big win get over it. ::)
2000
Bush/Cheney 271 Gore/Lieberman 267
2004
Bush/Cheney 286 Kerry/Edwards 252
Obamas win is very similar to Clintons 1992 win
Clinton/Gore 370 Bush/Quayle 168
Reagan/bush was a huge landslide, but those were different times back in the 80's.
1980
Reagan/Bush 489 Carter/Mondale 49
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he won by more than Bush both times and in 2004 they called the margin a mandate ;)
Thats bcause for the first time Blacks got off their asses and voted. I wonder why?
Now the women can sit back and have 10 kids that they can't afford and have 10 different
fathers who can't pay child support and they will collect food stamps as they been doing for years
and get away with it, and that goes fo WHITE TRASH to. Not being racist it's just the way it is and
it's the truth weither you like it or not.
So what other Election did that many blacks come out to vote?? Never, so i can call that racist
and i'm a Black Man.
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During this economic crisis that America is in this is a big win. Bush did not get over 300 elector votes in both 2000 and 2004. Obama crushed mcbush with over 360 elector votes. This is a big win get over it. ::)
2000
Bush/Cheney 271 Gore/Lieberman 267
2004
Bush/Cheney 286 Kerry/Edwards 252
Obamas win is very similar to Clintons 1992 win
Clinton/Gore 370 Bush/Quayle 168
Reagan/bush was a huge landslide, but those were different times back in the 80's.
1980
Reagan/Bush 489 Carter/Mondale 49
MATT, that's because all the blacks in America came out to voe for one of i's own, do the MATH MATT 90% of
Blacks voted for No bama.
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Thats bcause for the first time Blacks got off their asses and voted. I wonder why?
Now the women can sit back and have 10 kids that they can't afford and have 10 different
fathers who can't pay child support and they will collect food stamps as they been doing for years
and get away with it, and that goes fo WHITE TRASH to. Not being racist it's just the way it is and
it's the truth weither you like it or not.
So what other Election did that many blacks come out to vote?? Never, so i can call that racist
and i'm a Black Man.
I think you're not too swift or just an antagonist as your almost your entire post is wrong. Black vote was up, so was youth vote and others. And yes, blacks have been voting in the tens of millions strong for years, and blacks have always voted mostly 90%+ dem anyway for years with nothing but white candidates ::)
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MATT, that's because all the blacks in America came out to voe for one of i's own, do the MATH MATT 90% of
Blacks voted for No bama.
Please try and do some maths, blacks are 12% of the population they can't carry an election the remaining 88% kinda kills that ::)
Palin was obviously put on the ticket to pander to women, which are 55% of the electorate - over 4 times the voting block then blacks. That failed I see.
Obama won the black vote, latino vote, jewish vote, all age groups under 65 vote, first time voters, higher educated voters, higher income, single women and more. He won across stacks of groups unlike McCain.
He simply won, and won well as did many other dems no matter how it's played. Blame Bush.
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Please try and do some maths, blacks are 12% of the population they can't carry an election the remaining 88% kinda kills that ::)
Palin was obviously put on the ticket to pander to women, which are 55% of the electorate - over 4 times the voting block then blacks. That failed I see.
Obama won the black vote, latino vote, jewish vote, all age groups under 65 vote, first time voters, higher educated voters, higher income, single women and more. He won across stacks of groups unlike McCain.
He simply won, and won well as did many other dems no matter how it's played. Blame Bush.
Don't be so racist.
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Please try and do some maths, blacks are 12% of the population they can't carry an election the remaining 88% kinda kills that ::)
Palin was obviously put on the ticket to pander to women, which are 55% of the electorate - over 4 times the voting block then blacks. That failed I see.
Obama won the black vote, latino vote, jewish vote, all age groups under 65 vote, first time voters, higher educated voters, higher income, single women and more. He won across stacks of groups unlike McCain.
He simply won, and won well as did many other dems no matter how it's played. Blame Bush.
Good luck CQ with your knew President, i hope the change is for the best, but don't think so. And wha do you really know about obama? Not much i'm sure, just the word change is all you know. It's funny how they we'll all change things for the better just to get your vote, but when they get elected it's the same ole shit, so keep praying. It's about Ego, power and just being a sales man to you. If your smart then you should know that?
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That Bush shit is has been played out, is that the only thing you can say bro, ya Bush was part of the problem
but their were others involed and if you look back or do your home work it started in the Clinton era.
Fannie May, Freddie Mac lets give equal housing to all people who should't have gotten a morgage in the first place, so they fixed it and lied about people's credit so they could get the morgage loans. So 10 years ago you only had to pay the interest on your loan, then 10 years later you had to pay the Sub Prime and the interest
loan of your morgage, and most people could't afford to pay it so they forclosed, so who do we blame the morgage companies, the people or both or since it happend when Bush was President we'll just blame him.
Like i said before you believe what you have heard from the obama side and it worked and you believed it.
Now the shit will hit the fan, watch all his bullshit will.
HUGO open your mind up and try not to be one sided, there were alot of things i did't like about or agree
on with Mc Cain bro.
Let me as you Hugo, if you were on the weight pile and rpped the fuck out of your shoulder and you had to have some major surgery on it, would you let someone opperate on it that never has opperated before??
Obama is starting out with the country in a huge hole because of Bush. It's not old, it's fact, sorry it the hurts you. I'm sure you think it's all the fault of the dems and I'm sure that'll be the line from the right, lol ::) There's a lot more to this than the subprime, a lot more....
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obama is a yes-man/ robot/ puppet for the liberal machine. He does not think on his own or have any plans or ideas of his own. If he does he will only do them if his leaders tell him it's ok. He has always done what his party states and never challenges anything.
America always gets what it asks for, so here ya go. The fact of the matter is this country is greatly divided by this whole thing. Obama won by a narrow margin, 52%. Those that voted for him are in for a rude awakening.
While George Bush was not the best leader and has cost this country dearly in a few areas, to vote for "change" not knowing what that "change" is, is down right scary. The Germans did the same thing with Hitler.
Too many people in this country want to be taken care of instead of being self sustained. Too many people in this country are lazy and, want others to do for them. Too many people in this country wish for us to be like Europe. Our forefathers left Europe for good reason, to get as far away from governmant tyranny and, control as possible. To build a nation of independant free thinkings and builders. The people who built this country did so without all the whinning and crying that a lot of people do today. Our lives are very easy today. We have all the modern toys that 100 years ago would be un- emaginable. Yet people still say life is too hard.
I wish for an America filled with independant hardworking people who only ask for the opportunity to do so. Not ask for the rewards without the work. Not ask others to give to them because they are deemed to have enough or too much. When the government gets involved in business and regulates it, the profit goes down and, so does the motivation to do better. Those of you who wish for government control on health care.......it would only make it worse. Doctors are well educated smart hard working people who, will not stand for the government telling them how to do their work and regulate their pay. They instead will simply get out of the medicine field and, move onto something else. There will also be less people motivated to got to college for 9 years to be a doctor if the governmant is regulating medicine. The healthcare system is a mess right now, yet the government will only make it worse.
I really feel that obama is nothing more than a tool for socialists in this country whom have been trying to tear the fundamental core values of this country apart. I only hope people wake up before its too late.
Great post my friend! I feel the same way. The only thing an obama supporter can say is "change". I'm sick of hearing that shit. My family came here from sweden in 1880's to leave a country that was becoming socialists as they still are. My grandfather fought the nazi's in wwII and barely came out alive, along with many others in my family who felt strongly for the american beliefs and freedoms that so many take for granted. Now, the things they fought and nearly gave their lives for may be the reality for our families and our children.
Obama is just an image as you said for the socialist party, much like hitler and lenin, they preach change and hope and next thing ya know ya got a dictator in control and a completely brainwashed country who let it happen. My prayers now are in the hopes that congress does not let his socialistic ideals pass with 2/3 majority. Except unfortunately I think they have more to gain than anyone, and I'm not convinced McCain didn't purposely throw the election cause he is in on it as well.
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Obama is starting out with the country in a huge hole because of Bush. It's not old, it's fact, sorry it the hurts you. I'm sure you think it's all the fault of the dems and I'm sure that'll be the line from the right, lol ::) There's a lot more to this than the subprime, a lot more....
I blame all in Washington not just Dem. and it wasen't just Bush, how about congress and Reps. and Senetors and CEO's, i blame them to.
If there so for the people, then why aren't they helping the people, have you ever had a senetor visit your home that was from your state,? hell no they don't have any worries like the people on main street their pockets are full and you think they really care about you and your family, No theirs comes first and they get paid with our tax dollars.
Bro i was Dem. for most my life, but i dont go by that i go with who i think will do the best job, either Dem,or Rep.
Like i said that's all your side can say, it's Bush's fault and that's part true but there were others that screwed things up also. And by the way i could't stand BUSH for the record.
And Bro it dosen't hurt me that obama is President, it's just going to hurt the Country, wait and see bro. We should talk next year when were in worse shape because a man who can't even run a company let alone a country.
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R u retarded? he won by a large margin! got close to 53% of the vote, won red states that have been red for 70 years ie IN. He won big! 1-2% is a narrow win, 6% is a huge win.
6% is a huge win?
Another classic from Will Harris' toyboy. MattT, you fcuking guy, the reason it's considered a big win for Obama is not because of the popular vote margin but because Obama won so many states - he totally dominated the electoral college.
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Great post my friend! I feel the same way. The only thing an obama supporter can say is "change". I'm sick of hearing that shit. My family came here from sweden in 1880's to leave a country that was becoming socialists as they still are. My grandfather fought the nazi's in wwII and barely came out alive, along with many others in my family who felt strongly for the american beliefs and freedoms that so many take for granted. Now, the things they fought and nearly gave their lives for may be the reality for our families and our children.
Obama is just an image as you said for the socialist party, much like hitler and lenin, they preach change and hope and next thing ya know ya got a dictator in control and a completely brainwashed country who let it happen. My prayers now are in the hopes that congress does not let his socialistic ideals pass with 2/3 majority. Except unfortunately I think they have more to gain than anyone, and I'm not convinced McCain didn't purposely throw the election cause he is in on it as well.
They don't see it Jayson, they were brainwashed, just like Hittler did he tells you this and tells you that, then he tries to make his own RULES. Bang Bang mother Fuc..er
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I blame all in Washington not just Dem. and it wasen't just Bush, how about congress and Reps. and Senetors and CEO's, i blame them to.
If there so for the people, then why aren't they helping the people, have you ever had a senetor visit your home that was from your state,? hell no they don't have any worries like the people on main street their pockets are full and you think they really care about you and your family, No theirs comes first and they get paid with our tax dollars.
Bro i was Dem. for most my life, but i dont go by that i go with who i think will do the best job, either Dem,or Rep.
Like i said that's all your side can say, it's Bush's fault and that's part true but there were others that screwed things up also. And by the way i could't stand BUSH for the record.
And Bro it dosen't hurt me that obama is President, it's just going to hurt the Country, wait and see bro. We should talk next year when were in worse shape because a man who can't even run a company let alone a country.
the buck stops somewhere now doesn't it... You're going to tell me Obama won't get blamed if we go from being in a big hole to great depression and hated even worse in the world? Bush has a huge role for where we're at and you know it. For you to say, oh, don't talk about Bush, it's old is BS... He's the one that launched the "temporary" deficit spending that didn't turn out so "temporary" He's the one that decided to go it alone after 9/11. We went from having everyone's sympathy and backing to telling everyone to fuck off, it's our way or no way. All so we could have... Iraq??? brilliant... Had this shit been done different, there would have been a lot more bad guys off the world block and a serious(not bought and bribed) coalition to do it... Now Bush seemed to get his way with almost everything he really pushed for so to say it's everyone's fault as much as Bush is bullshit... A good president and one who gets his way like Bush would be able to identify problems and set an agenda around them. He did not do that. His agenda was cronnie capitalism and dreams of a new world order. That worked out great for us ::) neoconservatism=FAIL
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Good grief. Now Obama is the new Hitler and a secret socialist propagandist who will overthrow the government from within. You motherfuckers have lost your minds.
I feel like I"m repeating myself, but every reson you gyuys claim we should fear an Obama presidency manifested itself during the Bush presidency. He wa more of a socialist than either of the democratic presidents that preceded him in the last 30 years. He used the 9/11 attacks to brainwash the public with ideas of patriotism for the sole purpose of furthering his own agenda. He used jingoism and war propaganda to attempt to establish a defacto dictatorship. He was completely incompetent and he nearly wrecked the country.
Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration has already come to pass under the Bush regime.
You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.
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you guys are so pathetic, I'm laughing my ass off at this stuff:
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enjoy :)
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Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration has already come to pass under the Bush regime.
You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.
100% correct.
Suddenly they are all worried about the Constitution and spending.
News flash... patriot act and torture, 5 trillion debt... you've been supporting that shit for 8 years.
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Good luck CQ with your knew President, i hope the change is for the best, but don't think so. And wha do you really know about obama? Not much i'm sure, just the word change is all you know. It's funny how they we'll all change things for the better just to get your vote, but when they get elected it's the same ole shit, so keep praying. It's about Ego, power and just being a sales man to you. If your smart then you should know that?
No offense, but please don't assume I am dense.
When people say "they don't know anything about Obama" it merely shows they themselves aren't rocket scientists or chose not to.. His website is extremely comprehensive and covers all the issues in detail. There is stacks more available on him online. He has written 2 books - both of which I read years ago.
Anyone who "doesn't know about Obama" simply is either some hick who doesn't read, chose not to or is saying that to be silly as all the info was readily available.
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the buck stops somewhere now doesn't it... You're going to tell me Obama won't get blamed if we go from being in a big hole to great depression and hated even worse in the world? Bush has a huge role for where we're at and you know it. For you to say, oh, don't talk about Bush, it's old is BS... He's the one that launched the "temporary" deficit spending that didn't turn out so "temporary" He's the one that decided to go it alone after 9/11. We went from having everyone's sympathy and backing to telling everyone to fuck off, it's our way or no way. All so we could have... Iraq??? brilliant... Had this shit been done different, there would have been a lot more bad guys off the world block and a serious(not bought and bribed) coalition to do it... Now Bush seemed to get his way with almost everything he really pushed for so to say it's everyone's fault as much as Bush is bullshit... A good president and one who gets his way like Bush would be able to identify problems and set an agenda around them. He did not do that. His agenda was cronnie capitalism and dreams of a new world order. That worked out great for us ::) neoconservatism=FAIL
I don't back Bush, but i have to back my country and stand by the troops who are fighting these nut jobs.
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Good grief. Now Obama is the new Hitler and a secret socialist propagandist who will overthrow the government from within. You motherfuckers have lost your minds.
I feel like I"m repeating myself, but every reson you gyuys claim we should fear an Obama presidency manifested itself during the Bush presidency. He wa more of a socialist than either of the democratic presidents that preceded him in the last 30 years. He used the 9/11 attacks to brainwash the public with ideas of patriotism for the sole purpose of furthering his own agenda. He used jingoism and war propaganda to attempt to establish a defacto dictatorship. He was completely incompetent and he nearly wrecked the country.
Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration has already come to pass under the Bush regime.
You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.
Maybe you should try living in Iran, Iraq or North Korea or some other nut jobs country.
The leaders of those countries should not excist, just like we took out Hussin. Stop Crying about Bush he's done.
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No offense, but please don't assume I am dense.
When people say "they don't know anything about Obama" it merely shows they themselves aren't rocket scientists or chose not to.. His website is extremely comprehensive and covers all the issues in detail. There is stacks more available on him online. He has written 2 books - both of which I read years ago.
Anyone who "doesn't know about Obama" simply is either some hick who doesn't read, chose not to or is saying that to be silly as all the info was readily available.
Come on bro most people who voted for him did't even know who he picked for VP or never voted in their life
and the blacks only voted for him because he looks black, they don't say the man is half White do they.
What if he looked all White but was half black, i bet they would't have made a big deal about it or called it a historic
race.
So if i hear another Black, Gay, Jew or anyone else bitchin about equal rights I'm going to smack them.
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Interpret it as you will but this song just fits...
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Come on bro most people who voted for him did't even know who he picked for VP or never voted in their life
and the blacks only voted for him because he looks black, they don't say the man is half White do they.
What if he looked all White but was half black, i bet they would't have made a big deal about it or called it a historic
race.
So if i hear another Black, Gay, Jew or anyone else bitchin about equal rights I'm going to smack them.
If you want to slap people for expecting equal rights we know where you stand ::)
One would think that hundreds of millions of votes - if not a billion plus - had not been cast already by blacks, gays, jews, latinos, natives and all the other groups that voted for Obama in a landslide.
White folk been voting for each other for centuries, black folk been voting for whites for 40 years, it's been one lone brotha for prez and some people are melting.
Amusing as hell ;D
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If you want to slap people for expecting equal rights we know where you stand ::)
One would think that hundreds of millions of votes - if not a billion plus - had not been cast already by blacks, gays, jews, latinos, natives and all the other groups that voted for Obama in a landslide.
White folk been voting for each other for centuries, black folk been voting for whites for 40 years, it's been one lone brotha for prez and some people are melting.
Reagan/Bush 489 Carter/Mondale 49
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide
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Reagan/Bush 489 Carter/Mondale 49
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide............
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Reagan/Bush 489 Carter/Mondale 49
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide............
Yes, I agree, epic owning, not sure what that has to do with anything? Blacks voted then as well millions strong, and last I checked both candidates are white, don't see the relevance. Women voted too, not like they stayed home all years but 84 and 08. So did Asians, Latinos, Gays, Natives and the whole shebang.
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People in this thread are acting like the bush years didn't happen. Obama could spend the next 8 years working with NASA to come up with a way to cause the earth to spin off its axis and collide with the sun and he wouldstill be only a slightly worse president than W.
WTF are you kidding me? gg reality
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What's your opinions on Obama's press conference?
I'm refering to the actual content.
I was pleased to hear that he's already planning to launch a plan that will stimulate the economy.
The focus on economy in general was IMO much welcomed and needed.
Feels good that he's got a big board of advisors, from all spectrums.
The advisors on economy seems if anything non-partisan.
Any thoughts?
My thought is that he needs his teleprompter everywhere he goes.
Every two words is followed by " uugggghhh and my tax plan did uugggghhhhh . . . . top .05% uuggghhh . . ..
BTW - his Nancy Reagan remark was classless and low rent.
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Good grief. Now Obama is the new Hitler and a secret socialist propagandist who will overthrow the government from within. You motherfuckers have lost your minds.
I feel like I"m repeating myself, but every reson you gyuys claim we should fear an Obama presidency manifested itself during the Bush presidency. He wa more of a socialist than either of the democratic presidents that preceded him in the last 30 years. He used the 9/11 attacks to brainwash the public with ideas of patriotism for the sole purpose of furthering his own agenda. He used jingoism and war propaganda to attempt to establish a defacto dictatorship. He was completely incompetent and he nearly wrecked the country.
Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration has already come to pass under the Bush regime.
You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.
Great post. That might be the best post of the year.
Unfortunately it goes to the heart of rightwing populism. Rightwingers live in a fantasy world created by their elitest leaders. Every evil perpetrated by the right is projected on to their enemies in spades.
It wasn't that Bush shit on the constitution, started a war of aggression, spent the people's money with no limit...it's same exact things that Obama will do once he becomes president.
In fact, the archetypal right winger--Hitler--is really Obama's leftwing role model.
This is why it is so difficult to debate a rightwinger. They are so out of touch with their own reality, thought processes and general historical knowledge that words and concepts mean what they want them to mean. Propaganda works. Mission accomplished!
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obama SUCKS
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He's going to need all those advisiors because he never ran anything in he life, so IMO he can't run this country. His Health Care plane will not work you will be waiting 6 months to see a Doctor, and he's going to tax the rich and give money to those who don't pay taxes you know spread the wealth. So now big busniess will lay off people because they can't afford their tax increases. It's socalisum all the way.
Listen to how he talks, he can't get the answers out fast enough he studders. ah eh well eh or just avoid the question all together, not saying Mc Cain was better (he was) but he had answers and was quick to answer them.
AMERICA is going down hard with this one, people believe anything don't they.
Hey at least Sara Palin is his VP that's why i voted for obama lol. stupid people did't even know who his VP was and do you know why?? Because Their STUPID and they don't know one thing that he stands for.
You can say all you want to me. Don't care! You're Going down, all the way down ha! ha! suckers.
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The idiot that made this post has no business saying someone else is stupid. ::)
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He's going to need all those advisiors because he never ran anything in he life,
John Mccain will be the first to tell you Obama ran a pretty damn near perfect campaign
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obama SUCKS
But he is still taking over two months and there. is. nothing. you. can. do. about. it.
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John Mccain will be the first to tell you Obama ran a pretty damn near perfect campaign
You really think he ran it? Don't think so. It was almost produced by Hollywood and the media.
The blame was on Bush so they voted Dem.
And more young people voted and more blacks, can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................
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The idiot that made this post has no business saying someone else is stupid. ::)
So most of the people who voted for obama who did't know who he picked for VP or knew nothing
about his issues you would't call STUPID? I would.
Guess i hit a nerve with you bro, maybe you did't know either?
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can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................
Don't forget about those hip musicians with their complicated shoes!
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You really think he ran it? Don't think so. It was almost produced by Hollywood and the media.
The blame was on Bush so they voted Dem.
And more young people voted and more blacks, can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................
did mccain run his?
obama's campaign was ON MESSAGE the whole time.
At one point, rick davis said "john mccain does not always speak for the mccain campaign' when they differed on positions.
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did mccain run his?
obama's campaign was ON MESSAGE the whole time.
At one point, rick davis said "john mccain does not always speak for the mccain campaign' when they differed on positions.
Ok but how much of the message is true? time will tell i guess. Can't believe everything you hear now can you, and it's always been that way with Dems. and Reps. they want your vote. I could give a rats ass about the both of them. But will see when he raises taxes for people making over $250.000 or was it $200.000, no wait Joe Biddin
said any one making over $150.000, there just not on the same page,that is obama and Biddin so who knows what the real amount is? And those people making that much mostly own companies so when their taxes go up then they will hire less people and there will be more unemployment for the lower and middle class. Don't forget free health care and 6 months to bring your kid to a Doctor, so who pays for that? Sounds like our taxes will go up for that one. All these nice sounding plans he has but someone has to pay for it (YOU) But he made it sound so sweat and easy. SUCKERS................. ........It will be like health care in Cuba.
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Ok but how much of the message is true? time will tell i guess. Can't believe everything you hear now can you, and it's always been that way with Dems. and Reps. they want your vote. I could give a rats ass about the both of them. But will see when he raises taxes for people making over $250.000 or was it $200.000, no wait Joe Biddin
said any one making over $150.000, there just not on the same page,that is obama and Biddin so who knows what the real amount is? And those people making that much mostly own companies so when their taxes go up then they will hire less people and there will be more unemployment for the lower and middle class. Don't forget free health care and 6 months to bring your kid to a Doctor, so who pays for that? Sounds like our taxes will go up for that one. All these nice sounding plans he has but someone has to pay for it (YOU) But he made it sound so sweat and easy. SUCKERS................. ........It will be like health care in Cuba.
First of all, the differing income tax levels: someone linked that video in a diff thread. If you watch the video, you notice that the tax level doesn't really fluctuate. As the campaign progresses, it just continually rises. Now, you may consider him a liar regardless, but you could just as easily look at that as him tweaking his campaign message. That's not that far outsual. I believe McCain made a few changes on taxes and health care, too.
Secondly, the tax is graduated. It's been posted in other thread before, but it's not like a thirty percent raise on everyone who earns over 250 gs. For the majority of people the tax increase will amount to a couple of hundred bucks. Realistically, that is not gonna cause a freeze in hiring for most businesses.
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First of all, the differing income tax levels: someone linked that video in a diff thread. If you watch the video, you notice that the tax level doesn't really fluctuate. As the campaign progresses, it just continually rises. Now, you may consider him a liar regardless, but you could just as easily look at that as him tweaking his campaign message. That's not that far outsual. I believe McCain made a few changes on taxes and health care, too.
Secondly, the tax is graduated. It's been posted in other thread before, but it's not like a thirty percent raise on everyone who earns over 250 gs. For the majority of people the tax increase will amount to a couple of hundred bucks. Realistically, that is not gonna cause a freeze in hiring for most businesses.
obama, BLA,BLA,BLA,BLA,BLA. From where i'm from you know bullshit when you hear it. Promises from Politicans is like talking to a sales man, It's all BULLSHIT! Come on now you should no that?
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So, details matter when you want to make a point, but when someone point out those details are incorrect "Blah, blah, blah".
OK, got it. ::)
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So, details matter when you want to make a point, but when someone point out those details are incorrect "Blah, blah, blah".
OK, got it. ::)
It's about time lol.
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No. See , that was sarcasm. That's why I used the rolly eyes emotiicon. I was pointing out how your behavior, and by extension, your argument, lacked any sense of cohesive logic. Get it?
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No. See , that was sarcasm. That's why I used the rolly eyes emotiicon. I was pointing out how your behavior, and by extension, your argument, lacked any sense of cohesive logic. Get it?
I kind of figured that coming from someone who voted for obama.
Iwould have been ok with Romney
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I kind of figured that coming from someone who voted for obama.
Iwould have been ok with Romney
But you can't vote for him he's a Morman right? God forbib we do that.