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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2008, 02:00:20 AM »
Good luck CQ with your knew President, i hope the change is for the best, but don't think so. And wha do you really know about obama? Not much i'm sure, just the word change is all you know. It's funny how they we'll all change things for the better just to get your vote, but when they get elected it's the same ole shit, so keep praying. It's about Ego, power and just being a sales man to you. If your smart then you should know that?

No offense, but please don't assume I am dense.

When people say "they don't know anything about Obama" it merely shows they themselves aren't rocket scientists or chose not to.. His website is extremely comprehensive and covers all the issues in detail. There is stacks more available on him online. He has written 2 books - both of which I read years ago.

Anyone who "doesn't know about Obama" simply is either some hick who doesn't read, chose not to or is saying that to be silly as all the info was readily available.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2008, 04:51:08 AM »
the buck stops somewhere now doesn't it... You're going to tell me Obama won't get blamed if we go from being in a big hole to great depression and hated even worse in the world?  Bush has a huge role for where we're at and you know it.  For you to say, oh, don't talk about Bush, it's old is BS... He's the one that launched the "temporary" deficit spending that didn't turn out so "temporary"  He's the one that decided to go it alone after 9/11.  We went from having everyone's sympathy and backing to telling everyone to fuck off, it's our way or no way.  All so we could have... Iraq???  brilliant...  Had this shit been done different, there would have been a lot more bad guys off the world block and a serious(not bought and bribed) coalition to do it...  Now Bush seemed to get his way with almost everything he really pushed for so to say it's everyone's fault as much as Bush is bullshit... A good president and one who gets his way like Bush would be able to identify problems and set an agenda around them.  He did not do that.  His agenda was cronnie capitalism and dreams of a new world order.  That worked out great for us ::)  neoconservatism=FAIL

I don't back Bush, but i have to back my country and stand by the troops who are fighting these nut jobs.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2008, 04:56:18 AM »
Good grief. Now Obama is the new Hitler and a secret socialist propagandist who will overthrow the government from within. You motherfuckers have lost your  minds.

I feel like I"m repeating myself, but every reson you gyuys claim we should fear an Obama presidency manifested itself during the Bush presidency. He wa more of a socialist  than either of the democratic presidents that preceded him in the last 30 years. He used the 9/11 attacks to brainwash the public with ideas of patriotism for the sole purpose of furthering his own agenda. He used jingoism and war propaganda to attempt to establish a defacto dictatorship. He was completely incompetent and he nearly wrecked the country.


Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration  has already come to pass under the Bush regime.

You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.



Maybe you should try living in Iran, Iraq or North Korea or some other nut jobs country.
The leaders of those countries should not excist, just like we took out Hussin. Stop Crying about Bush he's done.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2008, 02:45:24 PM »
No offense, but please don't assume I am dense.

When people say "they don't know anything about Obama" it merely shows they themselves aren't rocket scientists or chose not to.. His website is extremely comprehensive and covers all the issues in detail. There is stacks more available on him online. He has written 2 books - both of which I read years ago.

Anyone who "doesn't know about Obama" simply is either some hick who doesn't read, chose not to or is saying that to be silly as all the info was readily available.

Come on bro most people who voted for him did't even know who he picked for VP or never voted in their life
and the blacks only voted for him because he looks black, they don't say the man is half White do they.
What if he looked all White but was half black, i bet they would't have made a big deal about it or called it a historic
race.
So if i hear another Black, Gay, Jew or anyone else bitchin about equal rights I'm going to smack them.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2008, 02:47:21 PM »
Interpret it as you will but this song just fits...

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2008, 03:49:26 PM »
Come on bro most people who voted for him did't even know who he picked for VP or never voted in their life
and the blacks only voted for him because he looks black, they don't say the man is half White do they.
What if he looked all White but was half black, i bet they would't have made a big deal about it or called it a historic
race.
So if i hear another Black, Gay, Jew or anyone else bitchin about equal rights I'm going to smack them.

If you want to slap people for expecting equal rights we know where you stand ::)

One would think that hundreds of millions of votes - if not a billion plus - had not been cast already by blacks, gays, jews, latinos, natives and all the other groups that voted for Obama in a landslide.

White folk been voting for each other for centuries, black folk been voting for whites for 40 years, it's been one lone brotha for prez and some people are melting.

Amusing as hell ;D

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2008, 04:04:27 PM »
If you want to slap people for expecting equal rights we know where you stand ::)

One would think that hundreds of millions of votes - if not a billion plus - had not been cast already by blacks, gays, jews, latinos, natives and all the other groups that voted for Obama in a landslide.

White folk been voting for each other for centuries, black folk been voting for whites for 40 years, it's been one lone brotha for prez and some people are melting.


Reagan/Bush 489    Carter/Mondale 49   
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2008, 04:06:12 PM »
Reagan/Bush 489    Carter/Mondale 49   
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide............

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« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2008, 04:11:30 PM »
Reagan/Bush 489    Carter/Mondale 49   
Look what Reagan did to Carter, talk about a landslide............

Yes, I agree, epic owning, not sure what that has to do with anything? Blacks voted then as well millions strong, and last I checked both candidates are white, don't see the relevance. Women voted too, not like they stayed home all years but 84 and 08. So did Asians, Latinos, Gays, Natives and the whole shebang.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2008, 04:31:07 PM »
People in this thread are acting like the bush years didn't happen. Obama could spend the next 8 years working with NASA to come up with a way to cause the earth to spin off its axis and collide with the sun and he wouldstill be only a slightly worse president than W.


WTF are you kidding me? gg reality

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2008, 05:27:12 AM »
What's your opinions on Obama's press conference?
I'm refering to the actual content.
I was pleased to hear that he's already planning to launch a plan that will stimulate the economy.
The focus on economy in general was IMO much welcomed and needed.
Feels good that he's got a big board of advisors, from all spectrums.
The advisors on economy seems if anything non-partisan.
Any thoughts? 

My thought is that he needs his teleprompter everywhere he goes.

Every two words is followed by "  uugggghhh and my tax plan did uugggghhhhh  . . . . top .05%   uuggghhh . . ..

BTW - his Nancy Reagan remark was classless and low rent.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2008, 05:55:04 AM »
Good grief. Now Obama is the new Hitler and a secret socialist propagandist who will overthrow the government from within. You motherfuckers have lost your  minds.

I feel like I"m repeating myself, but every reson you gyuys claim we should fear an Obama presidency manifested itself during the Bush presidency. He wa more of a socialist  than either of the democratic presidents that preceded him in the last 30 years. He used the 9/11 attacks to brainwash the public with ideas of patriotism for the sole purpose of furthering his own agenda. He used jingoism and war propaganda to attempt to establish a defacto dictatorship. He was completely incompetent and he nearly wrecked the country.


Literally , every single nightmare that you guys claim is coming under the Obama administration  has already come to pass under the Bush regime.

You need to take off your partisan blinders. Some of you claim that you aren't knee-jerk republicans, but the only ones you're fooling are yourselves.


Great post.  That might be the best post of the year.

Unfortunately it goes to the heart of rightwing populism.  Rightwingers live in a fantasy world created by their elitest leaders.  Every evil perpetrated by the right is projected on to their enemies in spades.

It wasn't that Bush shit on the constitution, started a war of aggression, spent the people's money with no limit...it's same exact things that Obama will do once he becomes president.

In fact, the archetypal right winger--Hitler--is really Obama's leftwing role model.

This is why it is so difficult to debate a rightwinger.  They are so out of touch with their own reality, thought processes and general historical knowledge that words and concepts mean what they want them to mean.  Propaganda works.  Mission accomplished!

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2008, 10:17:20 AM »
obama SUCKS

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2008, 10:35:08 AM »
He's going to need all those advisiors because he never ran anything in he life, so IMO he can't run this country. His Health Care plane will not work you will be waiting 6 months to see a Doctor, and he's going to tax the rich and give money to those who don't pay taxes you know spread the wealth. So now big busniess will lay off people because they can't afford their tax increases. It's socalisum all the way.
Listen to how he talks, he can't get the answers out fast enough he studders. ah eh well eh or just avoid the question all together, not saying Mc Cain was better (he was) but he had answers and was quick to answer them.

AMERICA is going down hard with this one, people believe anything don't they.
Hey at least Sara Palin is his VP that's why i voted for obama lol. stupid people did't even know who his VP was and do you know why?? Because Their STUPID and they don't know one thing that he stands for.
You can say all you want to me. Don't care! You're Going down, all the way down ha! ha! suckers.
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The idiot that made this post has no business saying someone else is stupid.   ::)

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2008, 10:37:28 AM »
He's going to need all those advisiors because he never ran anything in he life,

John Mccain will be the first to tell you Obama ran a pretty damn near perfect campaign

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2008, 10:51:15 AM »
obama SUCKS

But he is still taking over two months and there. is. nothing. you. can. do. about. it.


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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »
John Mccain will be the first to tell you Obama ran a pretty damn near perfect campaign

You really think he ran it? Don't think so. It was almost produced by Hollywood and the media.
The blame was on Bush so they voted Dem.
And more young people voted and more blacks, can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2008, 02:49:31 PM »
The idiot that made this post has no business saying someone else is stupid.   ::)

So most of the people who voted for obama who did't know who he picked for VP or knew nothing
about his issues you would't call STUPID? I would.
Guess i hit a nerve with you bro, maybe you did't know either?

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2008, 02:50:47 PM »
can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................

Don't forget about those hip musicians with their complicated shoes!

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2008, 03:32:58 PM »
You really think he ran it? Don't think so. It was almost produced by Hollywood and the media.
The blame was on Bush so they voted Dem.
And more young people voted and more blacks, can't say much about young people with their
baggy paints, they cn't even run from the police without them falling down.
Just like obama is going down.................

did mccain run his?

obama's campaign was ON MESSAGE the whole time.

At one point, rick davis said "john mccain does not always speak for the mccain campaign' when they differed on positions.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2008, 06:22:12 PM »
did mccain run his?

obama's campaign was ON MESSAGE the whole time.

At one point, rick davis said "john mccain does not always speak for the mccain campaign' when they differed on positions.

Ok but how much of the message is true? time will tell i guess. Can't believe everything you hear now can you, and it's always been that way with Dems. and Reps. they want your vote. I could give a rats ass about the both of them. But will see when he raises taxes for people making over $250.000 or was it $200.000, no wait Joe Biddin
said any one making over $150.000, there just not on the same page,that is obama and Biddin so who knows what the real amount is? And those people making that much mostly own companies so when their taxes go up then they will hire less people and there will be more unemployment for the lower and middle class. Don't forget free health care and 6 months to bring your kid to a Doctor, so who pays for that? Sounds like our taxes will go up for that one. All these nice sounding plans he has but someone has to pay for it (YOU) But he made it sound so sweat and easy. SUCKERS................. ........It will be like health care in Cuba.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2008, 06:29:48 PM »
Ok but how much of the message is true? time will tell i guess. Can't believe everything you hear now can you, and it's always been that way with Dems. and Reps. they want your vote. I could give a rats ass about the both of them. But will see when he raises taxes for people making over $250.000 or was it $200.000, no wait Joe Biddin
said any one making over $150.000, there just not on the same page,that is obama and Biddin so who knows what the real amount is? And those people making that much mostly own companies so when their taxes go up then they will hire less people and there will be more unemployment for the lower and middle class. Don't forget free health care and 6 months to bring your kid to a Doctor, so who pays for that? Sounds like our taxes will go up for that one. All these nice sounding plans he has but someone has to pay for it (YOU) But he made it sound so sweat and easy. SUCKERS................. ........It will be like health care in Cuba.

First of all, the differing income tax levels: someone linked that video in a diff thread. If you watch the video, you notice that the tax level doesn't really fluctuate. As the campaign progresses, it just continually rises. Now, you may consider him a liar regardless, but you could just as easily look at that as him tweaking  his campaign message. That's not that far outsual. I believe McCain made a few changes on taxes and health care, too.

Secondly, the tax is graduated.  It's been posted in other thread before, but it's not like a thirty percent raise on everyone who earns over 250 gs. For the majority of people the tax increase will amount to a couple of hundred bucks.  Realistically, that is not gonna cause a freeze in hiring for most businesses.

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2008, 06:40:19 PM »
First of all, the differing income tax levels: someone linked that video in a diff thread. If you watch the video, you notice that the tax level doesn't really fluctuate. As the campaign progresses, it just continually rises. Now, you may consider him a liar regardless, but you could just as easily look at that as him tweaking  his campaign message. That's not that far outsual. I believe McCain made a few changes on taxes and health care, too.

Secondly, the tax is graduated.  It's been posted in other thread before, but it's not like a thirty percent raise on everyone who earns over 250 gs. For the majority of people the tax increase will amount to a couple of hundred bucks.  Realistically, that is not gonna cause a freeze in hiring for most businesses.

obama, BLA,BLA,BLA,BLA,BLA. From where i'm from you know bullshit when you hear it. Promises from Politicans is like talking to a sales man, It's all BULLSHIT! Come on now you should no that?

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2008, 06:41:50 PM »
So, details matter when you want to make a point, but when someone point out those details are incorrect "Blah, blah, blah".

OK, got it.  ::)

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Re: Obama press conference - your thoughts
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2008, 07:13:23 PM »
So, details matter when you want to make a point, but when someone point out those details are incorrect "Blah, blah, blah".

OK, got it.  ::)

It's about time lol.