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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Alex on November 15, 2008, 02:04:14 PM
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http://www.body-building.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=4255&st=80&#entry151537
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Holy fuck, he looks good in the first photo :o
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That sidechest dwarfs anybodys seide chest,
Amazing.
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I don't know whether it's the bodyfat that's hiding it, but his injuries look like they aren't as bad. His lat and tricep used to recede quite a bit. Now his symmetry has improved by leaps and bounds.
I still think he should diet down and just be super freaky, but a little more healthy. He could still guest pose and everything, it'd just be healthier to carry less overall mass and less fat. Much more presentable. It's not like Ronnie would look "small" by any means. But whatever makes the King happy.
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MONSTER.
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Zoom up the side chest photo. AMAZING
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That sidechest dwarfs anybodys seide chest,
Amazing.
Yes I'll have to say it even dwarfs your fivehead.
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Yes I'll have to say it even dwarfs your fivehead.
Calm down stud it aint that serious ::) ::)
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Every time I see pics of Ronnie Coleman I wonder how any fruit could say that Dorian Yates was better than him. :D
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could he win mr getbig
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Every time I see pics of Ronnie Coleman I wonder how any fruit could say that Dorian Yates was better than him. :D
Haha I'm the biggest critic of Dorian but you think Ronnie Coleman's physique represents the pinnacle of bodybuilding you are nuts. Granted this is his offseason but damn the dude has had a gorilla gut for the last 5 years. Is it really necessary to pose in a thong during the offseason. BBing does cater to the homos.
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Haha I'm the biggest critic of Dorian but you think Ronnie Coleman's physique represents the pinnacle of bodybuilding you are nuts. Granted this is his offseason but damn the dude has had a gorilla gut for the last 5 years. Is it really necessary to pose in a thong during the offseason. BBing does cater to the homos.
Not during the later portion of his career. I'm talking about the PEAK for both their careers. A peaked Ronnie Coleman makes everyone else look like a child. I like a lot of other physiques aside from Ronnies but there's no denying that he was the biggest, freakiest, mass monster out there.
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Not during the later portion of his career. I'm talking about the PEAK for both their careers. A peaked Ronnie Coleman makes everyone else look like a child. I like a lot of other physiques aside from Ronnies but there's no denying that he was the biggest, freakiest, mass monster out there.
Post a pic of a peaked Ronnie standing next to a peaked Levrone, Dorian, or Wheeler. It depends on what you think bodybuilding is all about. Size and mass then of course Ronnie. But Ronnie's size has ALWAYS been at the expense of his gut.
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I don't know whether it's the bodyfat that's hiding it, but his injuries look like they aren't as bad. His lat and tricep used to recede quite a bit. Now his symmetry has improved by leaps and bounds.
I still think he should diet down and just be super freaky, but a little more healthy. He could still guest pose and everything, it'd just be healthier to carry less overall mass and less fat. Much more presentable. It's not like Ronnie would look "small" by any means. But whatever makes the King happy.
Injuries look healed.......
Remember when Yates tore his bi/tri.........he looked like shit after that.
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Post a pic of a peaked Ronnie standing next to a peaked Levrone, Dorian, or Wheeler. It depends on what you think bodybuilding is all about. Size and mass then of course Ronnie. But Ronnie's size has ALWAYS been at the expense of his gut.
LOL, So im guessing this isnt "mass" ?? ??? ::) ::)
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/55/Ronnie%20Coleman_197041.jpg)
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LOL, So im guessing this isnt "mass" ?? ??? ::) ::)
(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/55/Ronnie%20Coleman_197041.jpg)
I guess you can't fucking read? I said for size and mass Ronnie takes the cake. But there is more to bodybuilding than size and mass. Like I said post up a pick of Wheeler or Levrone at their peak next to Ronnie. Who would you rather look like? Part of being a bodybuilder in my opinion is looking atleast somewhat like a bodybuilder offseason and not some bloated, gorilla. Ronnie looks like shit the minute he steps off stage.
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I guess you can't fucking read? I said for size and mass Ronnie takes the cake. But there is more to bodybuilding than size and mass. Like I said post up a pick of Wheeler or Levrone at their peak next to Ronnie. Who would you rather look like? Part of being a bodybuilder in my opinion is looking atleast somewhat like a bodybuilder offseason and not some bloated, gorilla. Ronnie looks like shit the minute he steps off stage.
You said "But Ronnie's size has ALWAYS been at the expense of his gut. "
I showed a photo of a huge ronnie Without a gut.
No one can be 300 pounds at 5"10 or below wihtout a gut, thats the prize.
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Every time I see pics of Ronnie Coleman I wonder how any fruit could say that Dorian Yates was better than him. :D
FUCK OFF,HOMO.
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You said "But Ronnie's size has ALWAYS been at the expense of his gut. "
I showed a photo of a huge ronnie Without a gut.
No one can be 300 pounds at 5"10 or below wihtout a gut, thats the prize.
Dude for every pic you post that Ronnie looks good in I can post 10 on stage of him with a massive gut. If you think 300lbs with a gut is what bodybuilding is all about then so be it.
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(http://www.dirtylord.com/galleries/mature-xxx/71/mature-stocking-02.jpg)
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Dude for every pic you post that Ronnie looks good in I can post 10 on stage of him with a massive gut. If you think 300lbs with a gut is what bodybuilding is all about then so be it.
change your name to Mr Ignorant.
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ronnie cant stay young forever...looks good vs the rest of the pumpkin patch of bbers out there. anyway i agree he needs to drop 30-40lbs. dont need all that size to guest pose. stay near comp weight.
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ronnie cant stay young forever...looks good vs the rest of the pumpkin patch of bbers out there. anyway i agree he needs to drop 30-40lbs. dont need all that size to guest pose. stay near comp weight.
he looks about 34 in Invincible, amazing actually :/
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(http://www.wpse.com/Galleries/1/55/Ronnie%20Coleman_197041.jpg)
This is the best a bb has ever looked (and he wasnt even 250 pounds)
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Ronnie is still huge but as far as Olympian competitor i think he is done.Back,tricep and a quad don't look good:/
(http://www.body-building.ru/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=52673)
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Ronnie = GOAT
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I guess you can't fucking read? I said for size and mass Ronnie takes the cake. But there is more to bodybuilding than size and mass. Like I said post up a pick of Wheeler or Levrone at their peak next to Ronnie. Who would you rather look like? Part of being a bodybuilder in my opinion is looking atleast somewhat like a bodybuilder offseason and not some bloated, gorilla. Ronnie looks like shit the minute he steps off stage.
id rather look like ronnie
either year
pinnacle of symtry
pinnacle of mass
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pinnacle of symtry
That posing routine, pinnacle of gayness.
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That posing routine, pinnacle of gayness.
okay , well, come back and watch it again when you lose your virginity, ;D
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okay , well, come back and watch it again when you lose your virginity, ;D
Gee, not sure how I'll ever recover from that one. You must be the head of an Algonquin round table.
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id rather look like ronnie
either year
pinnacle of symtry
pinnacle of mass
fixed ;D
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Every time I see pics of Ronnie Coleman I wonder how any fruit could say that Dorian Yates was better than him. :D
the chances of Yates surviving a contest and beating Coleman are as good as you surviving the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs
.......not good
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Ronnie = GOAT
good post.
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Post a pic of a peaked Ronnie standing next to a peaked Levrone, Dorian, or Wheeler. It depends on what you think bodybuilding is all about. Size and mass then of course Ronnie. But Ronnie's size has ALWAYS been at the expense of his gut.
Coleman didn't have a gut in his best shape around late 90s-2000, he had a smaller waist than the keg and greater lat width, thus a big edge in taper. Yates BTW also had a gut, but with less size to offset it. The contrast with Yates is farcical, Coleman's on another planet.
The gut's not just from the drugs it's also let's face the fact that he likes eating, which is why he usually looked horrible in the off-season and why he's not cut now, no reason to be.
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the chances of Yates surviving a contest and beating Coleman are as good as you surviving the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs
.......not good
If one were to go by judging history, had Dorian hypothetically returned in 1998 in his 1995 condition, just as an example, he would have demolished Coleman on the scorecards. Coleman only squeaked past a less than best Flex Wheeler to claim the crown that year, although I must say that I believe the gap was larger than scoring indicated. Like it or not, Yates in close to his best form would have been given the title again and I dare say in convincing fashion. This would be a logical conclusion based upon the judging in recent years to that point.
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If one were to go by judging history, had Dorian hypothetically returned in 1998 in his 1995 condition, just as an example, he would have demolished Coleman on the scorecards. Coleman only squeaked past a less than best Flex Wheeler to claim the crown that year, although I must say that I believe the gap was larger than scoring indicated. Like it or not, Yates in close to his best form would have been given the title again and I dare say in convincing fashion.
Nah, because you're relying on "scoring" when it's clear to anyone with a shred of objectivity over the years that the show's quite political, best man hasn't won on a number of occasions.
In terms of the close scoring with Wheeler, i'd say in that case the scoring was accurate-that Wheeler beats Yates in fair contests and was close to Coleman's other than a few areas that gave Coleman the edge.
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Nah, because you're relying on "scoring" when it's clear to anyone with a shred of objectivity over the years that the show's quite political, best man doesn't always win.
In terms of the close scoring with Wheeler, i'd say in that case the scoring was accurate-that Wheeler beats Yates in fair contests and was close to Coleman's other than a few areas that gave Coleman the edge.
You might suggest this, however, those that count, the judges, suggest quite the contrary. Flex was never remotely close to Yates on the score sheets in any contests. Coleman was even further down the line. Yates dominated and there is no indicator that 1998 would have been any different, assuming Yates returned in close to his best form. You are entitled to disagree that such a result would be just, but in all likelihood, that is the way it would have gone. Bottom line, neither Flex nor Coleman ever defeated Yates.
If you want to attribute politics to Dorian's wins, I am curious as to which of Coleman's victories you would be willing to attribute similar politics.
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You might suggest this, however, those that count, the judges, suggest quite the contrary. Flex was never remotely close to Yates on the score sheets in any contests up to and including 1997. Coleman was even further down the line. Yates dominated and there is no indicator that 1998 would have been any different, assuming Yates returned in close to his best form. You are entitled to disagree that such a result would be just, but in all likelihood, that is the way it would have gone.
If you want to attribute politics to Dorian's wins, I am curious as to which of Coleman's victories you would be willing to attribute similar politics.
If you want to hold to the belief that there were no politics involved then continue on with your naivete. I mean, your only explaination as to why Yates would win is the scoring, which is really weak after looking at the comparison pics. Wheeler also hands Yates his ass if Wheeler competes against him in late-90s form.
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If one were to go by judging history, had Dorian hypothetically returned in 1998 in his 1995 condition, just as an example, he would have demolished Coleman on the scorecards
yeah, here he is in his 95 condition against a 99 ronnie and its game over for dorian.
sorry.
you need to look at more than numbers on a page to compare physqiues....
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Lower bodyfat than normal. Looks good.
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yeah, here he is in his 95 condition against a 99 ronnie and its game over.
sorry.
you need to look at more than numbers on a page to compare physqiues....
Dorian dominates Ronnie there.
Your point?
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If you want to holdj to the belief that there were no politics involved then continue on with your naivete. I mean, your only explaination as to why Yates would win is the scoring, which is really weak after looking at the comparison pics. Wheeler also hands Yates his ass if Wheeler competes against him in late-90s form.
Your argument does nothing to disprove the conclusion of another Yates victory based upon judging history. You can decry alleged politics all you like, but in the end, it is in fact the score sheets that determine the victor. You can also express a preference for Flex's physique over Dorian's all you like, but that does not negate the fact that Flex never came close to Yates on the score sheets, ever. Again, I'll pose the question then, to which of Coleman's victories are you willing to attribute the same alleged politics? If one is to assume that Dorian was a benefactor of such impartiality, logically Coleman should have been as well. Beside which of Coleman's victories are you willing to place an asterisk beside?
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fixed ;D
lmao classic
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Dorian dominates Ronnie there.
Your point?
LOL sure he does. maybe if dorian was going for offseason shape LOL
no detail in the arms, no detail in the legs. poor detail in comparison to the chest. etc etc.
its not even close.
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If one is to assume that Dorian was a benefactor of such impartiality, logically Coleman should have been as well.
no, times during the 90's were totally different than during ronnie's reign.
when dorian showed up out of shape eg 94 or 96, (and with a missing arm) the judges didn't give a shit and didn't even knock him points.
with Ronnie, when he showed up out of shape (eg. 01 or 02) he was scored down (still won, but almost lost based on the scoring)
the judging was actually a lot better during Ronnie's reign.
its pretty easy to see why - fans were getting bored of the bullshit politics and stopped buying tickets.
that led to the Gunter fiasco in a desperate effort to sell tickets.
and that led to 2003 - a complete destruction of everyone by an in shape Ronnie..
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LOL sure he does. maybe if dorian was going for offseason shape LOL
no detail in the arms, no detail in the legs. poor detail in comparison to the chest. etc etc.
its not even close.
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Yeah deep down I sort of agree I must admit I have issues with accepting any sort of superiority of Ronnie over Dorian. Hopefully you know what I am getting at.
The detail that Ronnie had in his arms is something no other pro bodybuilder has ever even come close to. I will certainly admit that. Nowadays guys like Dennis James and Phil Heath have "blobs" of muscle for arms. Not sure what that is or why its happening.
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LOL sure he does. maybe if dorian was going for offseason shape LOL
no detail in the arms, no detail in the legs. poor detail in comparison to the chest. etc etc.
its not even close.
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In 1997, despite Dorian being less than his best, Coleman could only achieve 9th place, as Dorian walked away with his 6th title, I believe with a straight firsts victory. I would opine that it was Coleman who was not even close.
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dorian = paper thin chest, peashooter arms, aids victim quads, baseball sized delts, and big bloated gut.
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In 1997, despite Dorian being less than his best, Coleman could only achieve 9th place, as Dorian walked away with his 6th title, I believe with a straight firsts victory. I would opine that it was Coleman who was not even close.
haha give me a fucking break. as if the ifbb judging is ever justice. its all politics. even ron shouldnt have won 8 in a row.
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yeah the only reason ron won was because hes black.
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no, times during the 90's were totally different than during ronnie's reign.
when dorian showed up out of shape eg 94 or 96, (and with a missing arm) the judges didn't give a shit and didn't even knock him points.
with Ronnie, when he showed up out of shape (eg. 01 or 02) he was scored down (still won, but almost lost based on the scoring)
the judging was actually a lot better during Ronnie's reign.
its pretty easy to see why - fans were getting bored of the bullshit politics and stopped buying tickets.
that led to the Gunter fiasco in a desperate effort to sell tickets.
and that led to 2003 - a complete destruction of everyone by an in shape Ronnie..
You, yourself have suggested better judging during Ronnie's reign, yet conveniently decry Gunter beating Ronnie. Perhaps this better judging of which you speak was never more in evidence than when Gunter was the victor. And, if everyone were tired of bullshit politics at that particular point in time, one can assume that this would be resultant from several of Ronnie's wins, being that he had been the champ from 1998 up to that point. If all of big Ron's wins were just and deserved, as you like to imply, then why such frustration on the part of the fans so many years after Dorian had retired?
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ronnie is better then dorian
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yeah the only reason ron won was because hes black.
bwahahaaha that's the next line of the bricklayer's defense.
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dorian = paper thin chest, peashooter arms, aids victim quads, baseball sized delts, and big bloated gut.
PITHY
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HUGE!!! Legs looking good again, too.
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Perhaps this better judging of which you speak was never more in evidence than when Gunter was the victor.
or perhaps not: ::)
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or perhaps not: ::)
gunter beats him in bdb
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Dorian = Good
Ronnie = Great
Dorian at 255 = Good
Ronnie at 255 = Great
Dorian at 270 = bad
Ronnie at 270 = great
Ronnie maintains his greatness at many weights. Dorian only looks good at lower weights.
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Ronnie is better than Dorian now can we please end this F'N debate already?
why are we debating the obvious?
there is no comparison, Ronnie wins
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Ronnie is better than Dorian now can we please end this F'N debate already?
why are we debating the obvious?
there is no comparison, Ronnie wins
excellent post!
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bicep tear aside doz looks great there
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DAMN! That side chest reminds of the the Ronnie of old. Almost as big as ever.
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DAMN! That side chest reminds of the the Ronnie of old. Almost as big as ever.
I was thinking that too, then I looked at last years side chest, and it looked as good as that, I sadly think when he diets down, we will see all the same old flaws again =(
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yates - weak arms, lack of upper chest and flat delts, wide waist. large obliques, distended gut, lack of quad sweep
ronnie- weak calves, distended gut ONLY when he got over 285 pounds in contest shape
yates - 6 sandows, 3 were gifts, Nasser won in 1996, 1997, shawn ray in 1994
ronnie- 8 sandows, 1 arnold classic, all wins were dominant except 2001 when jay shaded ronnie from the front but ronnie still beat jay from sideposes and rear poses
Ronnie = great
yates= good but overrated, won becos of mcgoughs influence in Flex and weinberger's influence as a judge/IFBB politics
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Ronnies getting ready to compete in the Berlin show.. Just thought id break some news here.
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bicep tear aside doz looks great there
The fact that Dorian could even win in years he showed up with a torn bi/tri speaks to politics.
You shouldn't win at all if you are missing an arm......
That's two years he stole from someone else.......
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Dorian only looks good at lower weights.
The barrel at lower and higher weights.
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bicep tear aside doz looks great there
Actually it's not that easy to discern the "good" pancake from the "bad" arm. Both mediocre.
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The fact that Dorian could even win in years he showed up with a torn bi/tri speaks to politics.
You shouldn't win at all if you are missing an arm......
That's two years he stole from someone else.......
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It's remarkable the sheer numbers on getbig and elsewhere with their heads up their asses in the sand, naively referencing the "scoring" and IFBB judging as hallmarks of integrity.
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It's remarkable the sheer numbers on getbig and elsewhere with their heads up their asses in the sand, naively referencing the "scoring" and IFBB judging as hallmarks of integrity.
Don't have a mini-meltdown baby Pumpster.
It's not like your boy is getting schooled by Stallone in Rocky III.
Dorian got some gifts.........torn bi/tris should probably have earned him 2nd.
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Don't have a mini-meltdown baby Pumpster.
It's not like your boy is getting schooled by Stallone in Rocky III.
Dorian got some gifts.........torn bi/tris should probably have earned him 2nd.
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My stalker should calm down and concentrate on twat, that's what most of his G&O posts are about. :-*
Hope this helps.
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all these mass monsters look like shit...dam, im glad the era of freaks is over
top pros (in in order):
ray, priest,levrone, wheeler, dexter jackson, phil heath
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CANT BELIEVE NOBODY NOTICED THIS QUAD TEAR
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CANT BELIEVE NOBODY NOTICED THIS QUAD TEAR
If true, I don't notice it and WTF does it matter in his 40s, in retirement mode. ???
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Damn, i was actually really surlrpised when i saw these pics. Ronnie looks good.
Admittedly, we will have to wait till he diets down to assess his injuries, because right now they look like they have definietly improved.
Also, i'm not sure about the torn quad. Looks normal to me...
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Dude for every pic you post that Ronnie looks good in I can post 10 on stage of him with a massive gut. If you think 300lbs with a gut is what bodybuilding is all about then so be it.
Oh my God you're being thick.
Swede posted a pic with no gut, demonstrating Ronnie's size was not ALWAYS at the expense of his gut. It's because you said ALWAYS that there's an argument. Clearly Ronnie did not ALWAYS have a gut, so you are wrong.
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Now this is what I'm talking about. I like this kind of discussion. Who's better, who was bigger, who's fatter, who's flatter, who woulda, shoulda, coulda........... It's all good. Anyway, I guess I'll throw my two cents in. IMHO I believe that Ronnie Coleman has to get the edge over Dorian. That's not taking anything away from Dorian because obviously he is a great Champion and one of the top bodybuilders of all times. For me it's simple, I'm sure I would much rather aspire to look like Ronnie at his best than to look like Dorian at his. It will do me no good to go into further detail on whose bi's were bigger, who was wider, whose posing trunks were prettier, etc...... Both champions have great qualities and obviously a flaw or two somewhere. It's all based on opinion and that's that. Why do you think the whole concept of bodybuilding competitions are so controversial. It's because the judging is based on opinion and the idea of what is appealing changes from competition to competition. Personally, I'm more impressed by the aesthetic bodybuilder than I am by the mass monsters. Gave me a lot of hope when Dexter pullled out the O this year. Maybe the tide is turning away from pure bulk and size at the expense of aesthetics and lines. I hope so.
It's great to hear others opinions on the subject but you know what they say, "Opinions are like A$$holes. Everybody has one!"
Oh yeah, trying to compare who would have won by looking at the scorecards from various years is a complete waist of time. Might be good in theory but anyone who has followed bodybuilding (competition wise) for any amount of time should know what I mean.
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CANT BELIEVE NOBODY NOTICED THIS QUAD TEAR
he's had that for over a year now dumbass probably two years.
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Ammmmmmmmm I see a big argument here that must be ended with just 3 words..!!
RONNIE is BETTER than DORIAN
Yates won 6 Sandows which he shouldn’t have won..!!
92 was for Kevin Levrone
93 was for Flex Wheeler
94 was for Shawn Ray
95 was for Kevin Levrone
96 was for Shawn Ray
97 was for Kevin Levrone
So that means DORIAN should have won 0 Sandows
Ronnie won 8 Sandows, 3 of them were deserved which are 99, 2003 and 2004
98 was for Kevin Levrone
2000 was for Kevin Levrone
2001 was for Jay Cutler
2002 was for Kevin Levrone
2005 was for Jay Cutler
So that means Ronnie should have won 3 Sandows
RONNIE is BETTER than DORIAN
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Looks exactly like 1.5 years ago, just a bunch of extra fat on now so we cant see the damages too good, but damn his right arm are the best in the entire ifbb lol.
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http://ironworld.ru/photogallery/section.php?SECTION_ID=860&PAGEN_5=18
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His face looks like he's about to have the big one any min.
WOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
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That sidechest dwarfs anybodys seide chest,
Amazing.
Interesting you would think that. I think his chest is almost flat now.
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or perhaps not: ::)
Gunter DESTROYED Ronnie at the GNC 2002.
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And Ronnie looks like a bag of smashed assholes in those shots. He should just let it go...
(http://ironworld.ru/photogallery/counter.php?ID=25854&src=http://www.ironworld.ru/upload/iblock/445/445594f0358ae59fdd58bce8cad5a0e5.jpg)
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Gunter DESTROYED Ronnie at the GNC 2002.
not according to very many.
when I found those pics, the fucking contest review that they came from even said that Ronnie got screwed.
gunter was better than normal, but thats not saying much..he was barely a top 10 O. competitor back then...
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If only the left side looked like the right...
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/profbeef/Ronnieflip2.jpg)
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What is surprising to me is that Ronnies legs seem to be getting back to their old size again. Maybe he got off that cholesterol medicine crap.
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he looks pretty damn good considering this stage of his career..
I mean, compare to his 2001 off season form, and he is in great shape!
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And Ronnie looks like a bag of smashed assholes in those shots. He should just let it go...
I think the intent is to emulate those who came before him and forged new ground.
I'd rather see him stop the on-stage appearances, he could still make money without em. He looks pretty good considering his age and the fact he's retired.
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Ronnie is better than Dorian now can we please end this F'N debate already?
why are we debating the obvious?
there is no comparison, Ronnie wins
Dorian 1995 had Ronnie's 1999 size with better symmetry, proportions and conditioning. It is not debatable that Dorian would win. Ronnie has rounder muscle bellies but a lrger gut, so it doesen't matter. Overral, Dorian is better.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Is palumboism starting? :-X :-X :-X
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this can't be healthy .. I'm actually a fan of his :)