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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MarvinEderFan on November 22, 2008, 01:00:40 PM
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This was footage from when Tom was nowhere near his peak - thus the smaller size and lighter weights.
That being said, I post it here so others can see his form.
Notice how upright he is, how far his knees come forward. Apart from the "bouncing" this is TEXT BOOK BB squat form.
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very fast speed on those
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if i had short legs like that i could do that probably too.
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kind of bouncy. but it's probably one of his last drop set or so..
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Tom made a comment during the filming of this that he was in his "off" stage.
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Ignore the fact it's bouncy.
Look at his mechanics.... VERY few people can replicate/imitate that. Short femurs, VERY flexible ankles...probably very thich and strong knees from nature's side, hip flexibility, proper torso length etc.
Bottom line is..specialize in your natural abilities. I will never, ever squat anything like platz. Just as platz never did X as done by Pro Y.
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what was that 275?
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what was that 275?
That or 315 hard to tell.
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Platz was BUILT for squatting. He's your typical bodybuilding midget. Marvin Eder was borderline midget as well and one of the strongest BBers ever.
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doesn't matter how much it was... he's delivered. That's what matters.
Ps, Quaker, you know we discussed the video where he does 500 for 23 and I argued it was 525 lbs. My source for this is hatfield's book. He also confirmed to me in an email that it was 525, and that there were extra plates on the end (not visible to the camera). You know as well as I do he has no interesting in lying on the matter.
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almost anyone under 6 feet tall can attain that type of form, all it takes is practice.
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Platz was BUILT for squatting. He's your typical bodybuilding midget. Marvin Eder was borderline midget as well and one of the strongest BBers ever.
Eder must've been one of the wildest genetic freaks ever. Sure, he had an ok physique at times...but his strength was just insane
Q I don't think that's true. What about length of femurs? Sure, you can change ankle flexibility (atleast to SOME extent).
I doubt many people could attain that type of form.
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crazy training tecniques ;D
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crazy training tecniques ;D
LOL !!!
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why didn't the clown film himself training at his peak?!?! who wouldn't wanna see his crazy squats and crazy training intensity.
I mean if his hams looked like that...at that time and age after a long slim down for movies, WTH did he look like during 85-86....
those are crazy ass hamstrings.
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why didn't the clown film himself training at his peak?!?! who wouldn't wanna see his crazy squats and crazy training intensity.
I mean if his hams looked like that...at that time and age after a long slim down for movies, WTH did he look like during 85-86....
those are crazy ass hamstrings.
Supposedly there is some footage of him training for I think that 81 Olympia. I think Coach knows more about this.
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Muscle and Fitness Jan. 1984:
This is Tom Platz's Thigh routine according to Fred Hatfield:Tom begins doing leg extensions with 250 lbs for 8-12 reps and supersets them with leg curls with 150 lbs. This is done for four sets. Rests for 15 seconds and then does hack squats for three sets for 8-12 reps with 275 lbs. then he finshes with strict squats doing 8 reps with 635 lbs, 20 reps with 550 lbs, and finally 20 reps with 405 lbs. Incredible! Muscle and Fitness Jan, 1984.
:o
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another one. intense!
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bouncing is ok, most olympic lifters bounce
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tom was once asked if his knees ever hurt from squatting.
He replied, in a single word sentence: "never".
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Thats lee priest in the first video.
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23x525 lbs at 198 lbs BW. Retired in 86 or so. This was in 93.
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tom was once asked if his knees ever hurt from squatting.
He replied, in a single word sentence: "never".
thats pretty incredible. guess bouncing is ok then :)
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First video confuses me, how the fuck can he struggle with 315=
maby 100 pound plates or something?
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Tom also said his hardest set/sets of squats was doing 100 reps with 225.
Swede> he went completely off sauce and training following 86..to slim down for movies. I think this footage is from 91 or something...
and he made a small comeback in 93 or something. Don't know the dates.
So the reason for him struggling with the plates is he was in very little shape.
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Tom also said his hardest set/sets of squats was doing 100 reps with 225.
Swede> he went completely off sauce and training following 86..to slim down for movies. I think this footage is from 91 or something...
and he made a small comeback in 93 or something. Don't know the dates.
So the reason for him struggling with the plates is he was in very little shape.
it doesnt matter, 315 he should struggle with that weight no matter what..
It has to be more then 315...
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First video confuses me, how the fuck can he struggle with 315=
maby 100 pound plates or something?
Tom made a comment during the filming of this that he was in his "off" stage.
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I don't think that's true. If you don't train at all, and don't do any drugs, what happens..you go back to an untrained shape. And an untrained tom platz probably can't squat EASY reps with 3 plates.
Also..we don't know what number set that was.
Interestingly though I have a friend, a former BB who's done 100 reps with 243 lbs (110 kg). I think he chose 110 kg to "beat" Platz. He's also done 60 fucking reps with 353 lbs on squats. Does anyone believe this? it sounds like a bullshit stat right?
Well I trained with him some months ago, he hasn't competed in 7 years or so, and after 1 year of doing no squats he still busted out 20 with 315. Very rough set.
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I don't think that's true. If you don't train at all, and don't do any drugs, what happens..you go back to an untrained shape. And an untrained tom platz probably can't squat EASY reps with 3 plates.
Also..we don't know what number set that was.
Interestingly though I have a friend, a former BB who's done 100 reps with 243 lbs (110 kg). I think he chose 110 kg to "beat" Platz. He's also done 60 fucking reps with 353 lbs on squats. Does anyone believe this? it sounds like a bullshit stat right?
Well I trained with him some months ago, he hasn't competed in 7 years or so, and after 1 year of doing no squats he still busted out 20 with 315. Very rough set.
and so should Platz be able to do.
So something is not adding up.
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That's why I mentioned it. But this guy, my friend, had still been training during this year. doing leg presses and hack squats and extensions etc, and hamstrings.
Also...strengh is individual... if I don't squat for 3 weeks I'lle come back and struggle with 225...but my shoulder pressing strength seems to stay no matter what.
I do get what you're saying though.
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and so should Platz be able to do.
So something is not adding up.
dude are you stupid. Tom is off drugs in this clip.
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First video confuses me, how the fuck can he struggle with 315=
maby 100 pound plates or something?
It was likely his last set and he went to failure all the time.
Tom also said his hardest set/sets of squats was doing 100 reps with 225.
Swede> he went completely off sauce and training following 86..to slim down for movies. I think this footage is from 91 or something...
and he made a small comeback in 93 or something. Don't know the dates.
So the reason for him struggling with the plates is he was in very little shape.
We have a guy on here who can deadlift what Platz squatted.
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onlyme didn't you see good old tom train?
can you tell any good stories, what you saw?
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By the way there is no way Tom was clean in any of those videos. The dude juiced to his gills all the time.
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crazy training tecniques ;D
WTF? :o
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By the way there is no way Tom was clean in any of those videos. The dude juiced to his gills all the time.
Tom was open about drug use at his seminars. I applaud that, unlike pros who deny it. lol
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Tom was open about drug use at his seminars. I applaud that, unlike pros who deny it. lol
I know he was but I was also at one of his seminars and he claimed to only use 15 mg of winstrol and I think if I recall correctly some deca for the 1981 Olympia. I heard this with mine own ears. ;D
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I know he was but I was also at one of his seminars and he claimed to only use 15 mg of winstrol and I think if I recall correctly some deca for the 1981 Olympia. I heard this with mine own ears. ;D
maybe he did ???
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I know he was but I was also at one of his seminars and he claimed to only use 15 mg of winstrol and I think if I recall correctly some deca for the 1981 Olympia. I heard this with mine own ears. ;D
I remember reading a quote of his where he said he took so much d-bol his kidneys ached!
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maybe he did ???
Yeah and maybe the moon really is made of cheese! :D
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I remember reading a quote of his where he said he took so much d-bol his kidneys ached!
I know dudes who get that from 30mg ed
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Yeah and maybe the moon really is made of cheese! :D
pfffffffffff
what are you gonna tell me next Jim? that Santa doesn't exist? ::)
he brings me presents every christmas :)
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I know dudes who get that from 30mg ed
Ha! I'm guessing, like his workouts, Tom didn't half-ass his usage, neither.
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pfffffffffff
what are you gonna tell me next Jim? that Santa doesn't exist? ::)
he brings me presents every christmas :)
Nope, he's real!! ;D
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Good ole Tom Platz.....monster legs and 12" arms.
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Ignore the fact it's bouncy.
Look at his mechanics.... VERY few people can replicate/imitate that. Short femurs, VERY flexible ankles...probably very thich and strong knees from nature's side, hip flexibility, proper torso length etc.
Bottom line is..specialize in your natural abilities. I will never, ever squat anything like platz. Just as platz never did X as done by Pro Y.
Why ignore the bouncing? Bad on the knees. Decent form but I've certainly seen better. Not taking anything from Patz. He has absolutely awesome legs.
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Why ignore the bouncing? Bad on the knees. Decent form but I've certainly seen better. Not taking anything from Patz. He has absolutely awesome legs.
Apart from the bouncing I haven't seen ANYONE do BB squats with better form than platz. He had 100% structure for squats.
Look at his 23 reps with 525 video.
Besides...if the knees can take it would bouncing be considered "bad"? Not necessarily. It's a precaution, right?
(as I pointed out tom never had knee problems from squats)
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A lifetime of DECA maybe? Thoughts?
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Also..we don't know what number set that was.
That was probably his 5th or 6th set.
I have the whole video series of that shoot, and Costa and Platz just traded off doing a crazy amount of sets. It's been awhile since I've watched the tape, but I remember counting like 7-9 sets at least.
Costa bangs out 24 reps or so on his first few sets, Platz is "only" doing 15. I believe the weight is somewhere near 325+. They use the same weight (from my memory) the whole time, and would do as many reps as possible.
A few times, both Leo and Tom, pause in the middle of a set and say "I felt something pop." Then they do a rep (or two) and continue saying "it's OK."
The whole series was pretty damn entertaining to watch. Leo is a beast, though not the easiest physique on the eyes!
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onlyme didn't you see good old tom train?
can you tell any good stories, what you saw?
I saw Tom train a few times and always legs. I just remember one incident when he was doing calves. He had the whole stack plus some added weight. He would go to failure and had two guys then help him to the bench and rest. I really only remember him going to failure on every set. The morons on here who have the balls to criticize Tom and the way he trains legs or the weight he does or the reps he does are just ignorant. Unreal how people on here can do that when they are not even close to what Tom had. Jealousy and insecurity oozes out of these guys. It is funny as hell.
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crazy training tecniques ;D
Had to put the sound down when people walked past my room cause that video was sounding like rough gay sex lol.
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crazy training tecniques ;D
I actually felt sorry for the poor machine.
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I know he was but I was also at one of his seminars and he claimed to only use 15 mg of winstrol and I think if I recall correctly some deca for the 1981 Olympia. I heard this with mine own ears. ;D
I was at a seminar of his in Florida, about 1985 or 86 and he said about the same thing. I don't remember him specifying the dosage but I remember him saying he only took a little deca and a little winstrol. Found it hard to believe, even though he was one of the most intense trainers of all time. I have seen some people respond amazingly well to very small doses.
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Love the close stance on the squats
Thats how i do - throw all the strees on the quads and off the hips.
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but I remember him saying he only took a little deca and a little winstrol.
makes you wonder, if hair color is the only thing Lee Priest copied from him, doesn't it?
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Very dangerous movement for knees.
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natural layne norton squatting 455
:D