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WTF????
Phil Heath has decided to sit out the Arnold Classic
http://www.flexonline.com/phil_heath_arnold_classic_flex/news/628
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I just read this on the drudge report.
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Fool! He needs to establish himself at the 2nd biggest show. Yeah...he is responding to gear like crazy but he doesnt look mature (muscles) against established guys and his width/balance is wacked at the moment. He couldnt hold the title in 10 if they gave it to him in 09. Sad day if this guy wins next yr. Win the A 1st than talk about the O.
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might do mr getbig IV
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this was on CNN this morning guys ::)
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oh brother, another newcomer who needs to take 2 years off to "get ready", he should do the show, he'd have a great chance of winning it.
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oh brother, another newcomer who needs to take 2 years off to "get ready", he should do the show, he'd have a great chance of winning it.
He better cash in while the hype machine is churning.
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He better cash in while the hype machine is churning.
can't understand why he wouldn't do it, Victor and Dexter probably won't do it so it's an almost gauranteed 110K in his pocket. ::)
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Dexter and Wolf aren't competing there. Heath would finish second at worst, picking up a nice sized check.
He's getting bad advice or he's just too lazy to diet twice in a year.
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Dexter and Wolf aren't competing there. Heath would finish second at worst, picking up a nice sized check.
He's getting bad advice or he's just too lazy to diet twice in a year.
the only other person i could see giving him a challenge is Victor and i don't think he's doing it, if Heath shows up looking anywhere near what he did at the Olympia it would be an easy win.
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the only other person i could see giving him a challenge is Victor and i don't think he's doing it, if Heath shows up looking anywhere near what he did at the Olympia it would be an easy win.
I agree. Victor is supposedly in. He's the only one who could possibly beat Heath and that's only if his knee is back to 100%.
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That's too bad. Could've been easy money for homeboy.
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That's too bad. Could've been easy money for homeboy.
Beating Victor Martinez would be extremely difficult for Phil.
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Odd choice. Seems to be passing up easy money. Oh well, his choice.
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Odd choice. Oh well, his choice.
blame hany rimjob for these advices
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Fool! He needs to establish himself at the 2nd biggest show. Yeah...he is responding to gear like crazy but he doesnt look mature (muscles) against established guys and his width/balance is wacked at the moment. He couldnt hold the title in 10 if they gave it to him in 09. Sad day if this guy wins next yr. Win the A 1st than talk about the O.
So you're saying he can win it next year? His goal is to win the O. Would doing the Arnold help him do that?
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His chances at winning the Arnold (this year) are really good since the top pros are sitting it out.
His chances of winning the O are about none unless he finds a way to grow his clavicle, he'll never win.
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WTF????
Phil Heath has decided to sit out the Arnold Classic
http://www.flexonline.com/phil_heath_Arnold_classic_flex/news/628
smart move, if he really believes in his Olympia ability, a full year of training just for one show gives him a chance at the O, no doubt improve that back width and thickness and its his. Martinez is slipping, he will struggle to make the top 3 next year if Heath and Wolfe improve, both Martinez and Dexter are close to their finished product, Martinez infact post injuries it will be hard for him to get back to his best which still wont be good enough. its whether the young lions can improve quick enough, no doubt their bodies are still some time off being the finished product, 12 months is a long time for these guys.
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Dexter and Wolf aren't competing there. Heath would finish second at worst, picking up a nice sized check.
He's getting bad advice or he's just too lazy to diet twice in a year.
Agreed.
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smart move, if he really believes in his Olympia ability, a full year of training just for one show gives him a chance at the O, no doubt improve that back width and thickness and its his. Martinez is slipping, he will struggle to make the top 3 next year if Heath and Wolfe improve, both Martinez and Dexter are close to their finished product, Martinez infact post injuries it will be hard for him to get back to his best which still wont be good enough. its whether the young lions can improve quick enough, no doubt their bodies are still some time off being the finished product, 12 months is a long time for these guys.
How is Martinez slipping when he hasn't competed since 2007....when he should have beaten Jay at the Olympia? Let's not write the man off just yet...he's looking damn good at all of his guest posings recently.
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How is Martinez slipping when he hasn't competed since 2007....when he should have beaten Jay at the Olympia? Let's not write the man off just yet...he's looking damn good at all of his guest posings recently.
His legs are no where near as good as previously, he was close to the finished product before the injury meaning his age and time in the sport to improve, is getting close to 100 percent of his potential where guys like Wolfe and Heath are at 60 to 70 percent, the test for them is to improve whilst maintaining their waistlines. Dexter is in the same boat but hes more complete, Martinez will never win the Olympia with bright red oil filled calves, Ronnie put a lot of shit there and his looked odd but Vic's looked ridiculous, he was better than Jay that day no doubt, but his calves cost him, he needs to do a dexter and stop shooting them, but i see Vic doing a Leverone from now on and just being up there, these top guys really struggle to improve after injuries stop their momentum.
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Smart fucking move.......that Olympia title is his.
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I just read it today on Flexonline and I think it is a great move for him ::)
I wish he wins the Mr.O '09 :D
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He better cash in while the hype machine is churning.
You actually think Phil Heath is all hype? I don't know about that. The guy is young and should have plenty of good years ahead of him. Just look at the development seen in Ronnie Coleman over the years. If Phil Heath sticks to his guns, continues to learn and grow and listens to his body, there is no telling what he could achieve. IMHO.
Pat
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iiiiiinteresting.
So its even easier for Victor to come in and win it, reestablishing his prominence, thus giving us an Olympia with Jackson, Martinez, Heath, and Wolf as favorites. Its gonna be a good mixup at the O.
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Beating Victor Martinez would be extremely difficult for Phil.
LOL! Hang on. Let me wipe the tears away from laughing so hard! :D
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Hopefully he's taking time off to bring up everything but his arms.
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It was on ESPN yesterday, hopefully they'll re-run it every hour on sportcenter today.
It will be on the reporters sunday discussing Heath and the Arnold should be fun !!!
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It was on ESPN yesterday, hopefully they'll re-run it every hour on sportcenter today.
It will be on the reporters sunday discussing Heath and the Arnold should be fun !!!
REALLY? what is marv albert saying?
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His chances of winning the O are about none unless he finds a way to grow his clavicle, he'll never win.
Dexter isnt exactly the widest guy ever, and he won the Olympia. I feel Heath can absolutely beat Dexter soon
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REALLY? what is marv albert saying?
Phil Heath! Yeeeees! :D
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Dexter isnt exactly the widest guy ever, and he won the Olympia. I feel Heath can absolutely beat Dexter soon
no.
dex is far wider than heath - and no matter how much muscle heath grows, he can't change his skeletal structure.
i've said this before this kid is far far too arrogant for his own good - if you take away his arms he'd be back competing in the npc.
to think he has a realistic chance of the mr o so soon into his career ::)
its more likely he heard ronnie may enter the arnold, and realised just how embarrasing it would be when the judge calls for a rear lat spread, and the audience all start laughing at him.
he is dreaming if he really thinks he can compete with dex, or wolf.
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no.
dex is far wider than heath - and no matter how much muscle heath grows, he can't change his skeletal structure.
i've said this before this kid is far far too arrogant for his own good - if you take away his arms he'd be back competing in the npc.
to think he has a realistic chance of the mr o so soon into his career ::)
its more likely he heard ronnie may enter the arnold, and realised just how embarrasing it would be when the judge calls for a rear lat spread, and the audience all start laughing at him.
he is dreaming if he really thinks he can compete with dex, or wolf.
best post this morning. thank you.
btw..he is good, but for him to win now flex wheeler should get an honorary O title.
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Hopefully he's taking time off to bring up everything but his arms.
He wont bring anything up. His proportions will NEVER change. Just like they wont ever change for any other pro either, unless they shoot oil.
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no.
dex is far wider than heath - and no matter how much muscle heath grows, he can't change his skeletal structure.
i've said this before this kid is far far too arrogant for his own good - if you take away his arms he'd be back competing in the npc.
to think he has a realistic chance of the mr o so soon into his career ::)
its more likely he heard ronnie may enter the arnold, and realised just how embarrasing it would be when the judge calls for a rear lat spread, and the audience all start laughing at him.
he is dreaming if he really thinks he can compete with dex, or wolf.
i kinda agree.. here...
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to think he has a realistic chance of the mr o so soon into his career ::)
he is dreaming if he really thinks he can compete with dex, or wolf.
Heath beat Wolf at the Olympia, so its not a dream.
Dexter barely beat Heath at the Arnold and Olympia in my opionion
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Heath beat Wolf at the Olympia, so its not a dream.
Dexter barely beat Heath at the Arnold and Olympia in my opionion
Agreed. He already beat Wolf at the O so how is it a dream? Ya wolf was off, but he still beat him.
You all can carve Heath all you want, but he will be a serious contender at the O next year...Hell he was this year already. Third place for a first time guy ain't bad in my books.
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true but in my opinion a great bber is not just one bodypart
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take a way his tris what else is impressive..
...????? be real in his most muscular shot he has zero chest
his arms totally dominarte
symetry???
while its everone dream to have massive massive arms in my eyes...
everything should be massive...
heath is all arms
that alone in my opinion shouldnt win u a mr o
say what u want about jay he was wiioiide
has guns chest delts legs...
... does heath have a
super chest no
super delts no
super back no
super legs no
super abs no
super arms yes
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Heath beat Wolf at the Olympia, so its not a dream.
Dexter barely beat Heath at the Arnold and Olympia in my opionion
i disagree, anyone who judges unbiasedly would state without question that dex is far far more complete than heath.
front to back, left to right top to bottom.
the only thing heath has on dex is arms and calves - and only just as dex has two of the best arms in the pro circut. heath i admit does have great arms, but it throws the rest of his symetry off, dex has a flowing physique, with everything in proportion.
i would also admit dexters conditioning was not as good at the mr o as it has been in the past, and heath nailed it.
despite this dexter beats heath in every pose.
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true but in my opinion a great bber is not just one bodypart
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take a way his tris what else is impressive..
...????? be real in his most muscular shot he has zero chest
his arms totally dominarte
symetry???
while its everone dream to have massive massive arms in my eyes...
everything should be massive...
heath is all arms
that alone in my opinion shouldnt win u a mr o
say what u want about jay he was wiioiide
has guns chest delts legs...
... does heath have a
super chest no
super delts no
super back no
super legs no
super abs no
super arms yes
Same can be said for Lee Priest and Flex Wheeler, just to name a couple.
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true but in my opinion a great bber is not just one bodypart
..
take a way his tris what else is impressive..
...????? be real in his most muscular shot he has zero chest
his arms totally dominarte
symetry???
while its everone dream to have massive massive arms in my eyes...
everything should be massive...
heath is all arms
that alone in my opinion shouldnt win u a mr o
say what u want about jay he was wiioiide
has guns chest delts legs...
... does heath have a
super chest no
super delts no
super back no
super legs no
super abs no
super arms yes
qft
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Same can be said for Lee Priest and Flex Wheeler, just to name a couple.
exactly, thats why they havn't won.
dex did deserve a mr o. ronnie did deserve a mr o.dorian dis deserve a mr o in 93. ;D i believe shawn deserved a mr o, and flex back in 92-93 - but dorian was around. nasser should also have had a mr o, maybe even 3 ;D
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Phil Heath not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Dexter Jackson not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Jay Cutler not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
So who is...
Victor Martinez...
Kai Greene...
and possibly..
Ronnie Coleman????
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Phil Heath not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Dexter Jackson not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Jay Cutler not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
So who is...
Victor Martinez...
Kai Greene...
and possibly..
Ronnie Coleman????
I'm surprised Jay doesn't try to do this show, as it would be a nice paycheck if he won.
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true but in my opinion a great bber is not just one bodypart
..
take a way his tris what else is impressive..
...????? be real in his most muscular shot he has zero chest
his arms totally dominarte
symetry???
while its everone dream to have massive massive arms in my eyes...
everything should be massive...
heath is all arms
that alone in my opinion shouldnt win u a mr o
say what u want about jay he was wiioiide
has guns chest delts legs...
... does heath have a
super chest yes
super delts yes
super back yes
super legs yes
super abs yes
super arms yes
super condition yes
super every thing Hel yes
fixed ;)
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Phil Heath needs to start putting together his cabinet.
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Phil Heath not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Dexter Jackson not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Jay Cutler not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
So who is...
Victor Martinez...
Kai Greene...
and possibly..
Ronnie Coleman????
Ronnie coleman. RONNIE COLEMAN. Ron....how gullible are you? You beleve lift? COMON wise up friend.
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Same can be said for Lee Priest and Flex Wheeler, just to name a couple.
no flex wasnt just all arms
he was more ballanced better delts chest
his build was near perfect..
and he had a super narrow waiste...
phil is phenominal to a degree
but not in wheeelers class... not even close...
if i was to emulate a bber
i would want to look like flex in his heyday... balanced
never has such thoughts about phil...
ever i think he is complteley out of whack
big arms are great but u need to have big everything
imo
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Guys I see you all the time talking about Phil’s arms are too big for his other body parts, which is totally wrong..!!
Phil’s arms are 21 something inches but his deep separations what make them look bigger
On the other hand, Phil has 31 something legs and 19.5 inches calves.
He still got massive chest and shoulders and 29 inches waist.
Phil Heath “AKA” The Future of Bodybuilding
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no flex wasnt just all arms
he was more ballanced better delts chest
his build was near perfect..
and he had a super narrow waiste...
phil is phenominal to a degree
but not in wheeelers class... not even close...
if i was to emulate a bber
i would want to look like flex in his heyday... balanced
never has such thoughts about phil...
ever i think he is complteley out of whack
big arms are great but u need to have big everything
imo
assessment way off..
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Phil Heath not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Dexter Jackson not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Jay Cutler not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
So who is...
Victor Martinez...
Kai Greene...
and possibly..
Ronnie Coleman????
I know someone doing the Arnold .....
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248845.0;attach=288440;image)
toney was dry and more mature, should have place ahead of phil. again...ifbb wont place guys ahead of certain guys. it just establishes them as the better bodybuilder. vic will stuffer the same fate. ifbb WILL NOT allow vic to beat phil since he is a yr or two away from being their golden boy.
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This year may be different!
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Phil Heath at 2008 NPC Nationals
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i guess he had to back out because he couldn't score enuff gear for the show...he's working some overtime and living with his mom ...he still drives the car his parents bought him in highschool..
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Phil Heath not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Dexter Jackson not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
Jay Cutler not doing the 2009 Arnold Classic
So who is...
Victor Martinez...
Kai Greene...
and possibly..
Ronnie Coleman????
hey fatboy your forgetting dennis wolf
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hey fatboy your forgetting dennis wolf
no dennis
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=248845.0;attach=288650;image)
for all the ragging phil gets on here being narrow isnt that bad in non-contest mode because he looks like normal guy in dress clothes vs a clump of s##t like some of the mass guys.
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when people compare phil to flex it makes me laugh....
because its not even close
here a couple of pics of flex.. notice the BALANCE
while still having mionster guns
and also the NARRO waiste
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/flexwheeler5.jpg)
def in the top 5 best physiques ever
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/Flex_Wheeler_023.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/wheeler012da.jpg)