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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bluto on December 01, 2008, 12:20:58 PM
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
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this is all bullshit given the fact that the first words were "I was at the gym today"
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this is all bullshit given the fact that the first words were "I was at the gym today"
Well played...
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But neither Ronnie nor Dorian trained as hard as the legendary athlete they call "Bluto."
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Well of course Dorian OUTWORKED Ronnie....it's all genetic. 8)
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Well of course Dorian OUTWORKED Ronnie....it's all genetic. 8)
agreed....ronnie has world class BGG
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You rolled right up the them in your wheelchair huh?
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
When do you have time to go to the gym?
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Wtf are you guys talking about? Do you work out? :o
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It's impossible for anyone to know who trains the hardest.
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all i know is Dillet trained like a little girl..................
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
funny story
blojob ::)
pity you are wrong as always.
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When do you have time to go to the gym?
Haha - exactly - a guy with 32,000+ posts - there's no way he trains. ;D
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i once said 'hi' to dorian...and he said 'hi big guy'
haven't washed my ears since...!
DORIAN IS A GOD....
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ahaha Backfiring thread.
Bluto gets no respect!
This guy who we know cruises around in a wheelchair, makes up fantasy stories about the Gym, how fucking sad!!
ta ta
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i once said 'hi' to dorian...and he said 'hi big guy'
haven't washed my ears since...!
DORIAN IS A GOD....
Pink Pants Alert!
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hahaha
pink pants...lol
thongs my dear...thongs..!
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hahaha
pink pants...lol
thongs my dear...thongs..!
LOL ;D
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I'm up there with Dorian when it comes to train hard fo sure.
In some ways, I train harder.
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
Fucking right he did! Let me tell you a miraculous story. Once upon a time...
The Legendary Mike Mentzer: (http://www.ilguerriero.it/codinopreatle/bodybuilding/immagini/heavyduty/clip_image014.jpg)
introduced Dorian to a brilliant muscle-building system called High Intensity Training.
It made sense, so Dorian tried a set of rows to failure
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1_lo0r.jpg)
and he liked what it did to his back:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250267.0;attach=290208;image)
That worked out well for Dorian, so he applied the system to other exercises as also.
My goodness, it made all his body parts grow like never before! Dorian was in love and would stick to the system for life. It made him grow so effectively that he changed the size standard in bodybuilding forever.
He grew so much, some people even thought Dorian grew too big!:
(http://www.pazucu.com/kalf/dorian_yates.jpg)
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Good informative post
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Good informative post
Yea, except for the photoshopped pic of Dorian's back. ::)
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Yea, except for the photoshopped pic of Dorian's back. ::)
No shop, just so impressive it looks hard to believe.
That is actually one of his most popular pictures from earlier in his career and is widely spread.
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Good informative post
;)
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;)
Thanks NarcissisticDeity, I didn't realize someone actually had fucked with that picture.
I've adjusted the post.
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Thanks NarcissisticDeity, I didn't realize someone actually had fucked with that picture.
I've adjusted the post.
They didn't need to fuck with the pic either ???
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Fucking right he did! Let me tell you a miraculous story. Once upon a time...
The Legendary Mike Mentzer: (http://www.ilguerriero.it/codinopreatle/bodybuilding/immagini/heavyduty/clip_image014.jpg)
introduced Dorian to a brilliant muscle-building system called High Intensity Training.
It made sense, so Dorian tried a set of rows to failure
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1_lo0r.jpg)
and he liked what it did to his back:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250267.0;attach=290208;image)
That worked out well for Dorian, so he applied the system to other exercises as also.
My goodness, it made all his body parts grow like never before! Dorian was in love and would stick to the system for life. It made him grow so effectively that he changed the size standard in bodybuilding forever.
He grew so much, some people even thought Dorian grew too big!:
(http://www.pazucu.com/kalf/dorian_yates.jpg)
HGH+Insulin...not HIT.... ::)
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HGH+Insulin+HIT
Fixed. ;)
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Fixed. ;)
Drugs...Ronnie was bigger because of better genetics and drugs....at that level your training style doesn't mean shit.
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Drugs...Ronnie was bigger because of better genetics and drugs....at that level your training style doesn't mean shit.
HIT REVOLUTIONIZED DORIAN AND BODYBUILDING CONSEQUENTIALLY.
Once he switched to this type of training he broke into new levels.
The rate of gain was abnormal, he couldn't gain at that rate on his old routines, but when he switched to HIT with the same drugs he saw his rate of gain increase many times over. You act like drugs is the only factor. ::) Thanks for at least pointing out his genetic advantage. The drugs were a major factor, I'll give you that, but others have had to take far more to get such size.
Yes, Dorian raised the size standard, he revolutionized bodybuilding and forced everyone else to take more drugs. But to ignore the changes that occured DIRECTLY following his change in training is wishful thinking. It's apparent you're on a mission to make Dorian Yates look bad. ::)
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I never seen Dorian take 800lbs, and squat it below parallel.They both trained equally as hard, Ronnie just did more sets.
Ronnie even front squatted 5 plates.Ronnie was bigger and had better symmetry .
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I personally think coleman took it to the fucking max. heavy weights with high reps
Yate also had great work ethic but not like colemans
cutler works his ass off
levrone trained hard when he was training
I like ruhls trainings to.
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I consider how "hard" someone trains to be the highest momentary point of intensity achieved. I'd agree, they both trained hard as a mofo, but under my definition Dorian trained "harder" than Ronnie because he measured the success of his workouts by the point of INTENSITY reached. Ronnie had more volume, but that would require the intensity to be more equally distributed between sets, therefore sacrificed. Intensity was Dorian's goal and that's what he would strive for in his workouts.
More volume doesn't equal "harder training" to the extent that a higher point of intensity achieved does.
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I do know this, Dorian didn't need a guru to hold his hand every contest and could think for himself, unlike Mr. "Nuttin-But-a-Peanut".
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What if Dorian was black?
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What if Dorian was black?
He would then be a legendary black guy who trained harder than Ronnie.
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I consider how "hard" someone trains to be the highest momentary point of intensity achieved. I'd agree, they both trained hard as a mofo, but under my definition Dorian trained "harder" than Ronnie because he measured the success of his workouts by the point of INTENSITY reached. Ronnie had more volume, but that would require the intensity to be more equally distributed between sets, therefore sacrificed. Intensity was Dorian's goal and that's what he would strive for in his workouts.
More volume doesn't equal "harder training" to the extent that a higher point of intensity achieved does.
dorian has never displayed the intensity that ronnie has during his 800lb deadlifts or 600 lb squats. ;)
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What if Dorian was black?
If Dorian were black he'd be Ronnie ;)
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Both trained hard...thatīs for sure...but also both trained different....
Ronnie trained heavier, but used a lot of momentum in some/most exercises...his reps where much quicker than dorianīs
Dorian trained heavy, but only so heavy that he was able to control the weight, his reps where slower than Ronnies.
Ronnie most of the time did more reps than Dorian, but the Time of the sets where pretty much the same (12-15 speed reps like Ronnie did, equals the same time Dorian need for 6-8 reps).
Ronnie trained with more volume & hit the same muscles earlier (some 2 times a week) than Dorian (maybe 1 musclegroup in 6-8 days)
Just look at 10 Prof. Bodybuilder, and you will find 5-6 ways how they will train....
In the End: "it works for Ronnie and Dorian" (together 13 Sandows....)
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Looks like we all agree that dorian trained harder
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no.
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no.
piss off fatso
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no ron didnt train harder
he didnt pus himself as hard as dorian pushed himself.
he pushed heavier weights, total, but they were not as demanding on ronnie as the weight dorian pushed was on him.
dorian was spent.
ronnie had more gas in teh tank.
conclusion:
dorian wins
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
We should have a mentally challenged board....Members like Blue Toe,NaturalWeiner,Sharmin , bobtheknob,and Gaytpunani should be the only ones allowed to post there..
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We should have a mentally challenged board....Members like Blue Toe,NaturalWeiner,Sharmin , bobtheknob,and Gaytpunani should be the only ones allowed to post there..
stop crying little bitch just because you lose all the time
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piss off fatso
no
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stop crying little bitch just because you lose all the time
Lost? HAHA! Never ! You're a fat little 12yr.old homo..
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training harder or not, Ronnie Coleman will always be the pinnacle of muscularity and human physical development
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training harder or not, Ronnie Coleman will always be the pinnacle of muscularity and human physical development
Ronnie trianed harder...But you are spot on..It didn't get bette than Coleman in his prime!
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Ronnie trianed harder...But you are spot on..It didn't get bette than Coleman in his prime!
Dorian didnt even have good arms, and his quads look like shit from the front, and his chest was small compared to his back..... but i guess being 'white' goes a long ways. ::) ::)
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
Priceless! I wish I could have seen their faces. I bet they think twice before saying that again.
Good work Bluto!
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Dorian didnt even have good arms, and his quads look like shit from the front, and his chest was small compared to his back..... but i guess being 'white' goes a long ways. ::) ::)
Dorian was trash,all the way around.. And once again ...you are spot on...Being white does go a long way... Also the princess(Blue Toe) makes so many crush threads on Dorian ,and Mentzer,it's not even funny..
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Dorian was trash,all the way around.. And once again ...you are spot on...Being white does go a long way... Also the princess(Blue Toe) makes so many crush threads on Dorian ,and Mentzer,it's not even funny..
Those you mention do deserve their credit.
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Fucking right he did! Let me tell you a miraculous story. Once upon a time...
The Legendary Mike Mentzer: (http://www.ilguerriero.it/codinopreatle/bodybuilding/immagini/heavyduty/clip_image014.jpg)
introduced Dorian to a brilliant muscle-building system called High Intensity Training.
It made sense, so Dorian tried a set of rows to failure
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1_lo0r.jpg)
and he liked what it did to his back:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250267.0;attach=290208;image)
That worked out well for Dorian, so he applied the system to other exercises as also.
My goodness, it made all his body parts grow like never before! Dorian was in love and would stick to the system for life. It made him grow so effectively that he changed the size standard in bodybuilding forever.
He grew so much, some people even thought Dorian grew too big!:
(http://www.pazucu.com/kalf/dorian_yates.jpg)
Soundness, bud, just so you know, Mike Mentzer never INTRODUCED Dorian to HIT, Dorian was always doing HIT even from the start, he only worked out with Mentzer only about 3 times and Mentzer made a name for him self because of that because he said he was TRAINING Mr. Olympia.
This is false, in his interview Dorian says that all the influence Mentzer had on him was making him cut his volume alittle further.
His training is very different than Mentzer, and he has time and time again mentioned that Mentzer's training system is not appliable to real life, even though it sounds great on paper.
I'm just sick of Mentzer getting credit for Dorian's HIT, that's all. :)
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Soundness, bud, just so you know, Mike Mentzer never INTRODUCED Dorian to HIT, Dorian was always doing HIT even from the start, he only worked out with Mentzer only about 3 times and Mentzer made a name for him self because of that because he said he was TRAINING Mr. Olympia.
This is false, in his interview Dorian says that all the influence Mentzer had on him was making him cut his volume alittle further.
His training is very different than Mentzer, and he has time and time again mentioned that Mentzer's training system is not appliable to real life, even though it sounds great on paper.
I'm just sick of Mentzer getting credit for Dorian's HIT, that's all. :)
Thanks, AXA. Sorry about that.
I think I mixed Dorian up with Casey Viator, whom Mike did introduce to HIT. ;)
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You've got it backwards. Casey Viator was training HIT under Arthur Jones when he swept to a stunning victory at the 1971 AAU Mr. America, where an unknown Mike Mentzer placed 10th. Mike and Casey talked after the show, so knocked out was Mike by Casey. This led to conversations and a visit to Florida. The rest is history....
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You've got it backwards. Casey Viator was training HIT under Arthur Jones when he swept to a stunning victory at the 1971 AAU Mr. America, where an unknown Mike Mentzer placed 10th. Mike and Casey talked after the show, so knocked out was Mike by Casey. This led to conversations and a visit to Florida. The rest is history....
So Casey introduced Mike to HIT, and Dorian was already doing HIT when Mike met him?
So Casey must have introduced Mike to Arthur Jones?
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Funny story,
I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!
OWNED!!!
I guess if less sets and less weight and less training time means training harder.
And before everyone goes on about his 'intensity', I can't imagine Ronnie's feeling during rep 12 of 200lb dumbell chest press, with what is actually rather good form, is anything other than total intensity. I suppose he could have done some pointles forced reps, or 'injury reps'.
Plus lets be real:
Normal pyramid training is 4 sets with progressively heavier weights ending on heaviest weight for as many reps as possible.
HIT training is once all out set to failure, preceeded by 2 or 3 warmups with progressively heavier weights. As Lee Priest pointed out to David Henry THIS IS THE SAME THING.
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Dorian didnt even have good arms, and his quads look like shit from the front, and his chest was small compared to his back.....
very true.
but try telling that to a bunch of delusional dorian nuthuggers.. ::)
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dorian trained harder than rhonny.....fact!
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dorian has more hair than ronnie....
oh....and calves
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Dorian strikes me as much more targeted in his training approach. Dorian has a methodology to what he does in the gym, where as Ronnie seems like a guy that would just go in and try throw around big weights.
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So Casey introduced Mike to HIT, and Dorian was already doing HIT when Mike met him?
So Casey must have introduced Mike to Arthur Jones?
Yep. You got it on all points. Mike did introduce other bodybuilders to HIT-in the 70ls Dave Mastorakis, one of the best short men ever, much later he did train Aaron Baker and David Paul for a while.