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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2008, 02:53:15 PM »
Thanks NarcissisticDeity, I didn't realize someone actually had fucked with that picture.
I've adjusted the post.

They didn't need to fuck with the pic either  ???

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Re: An interesting story...
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2008, 04:30:34 PM »
Fucking right he did! Let me tell you a miraculous story. Once upon a time...

The Legendary Mike Mentzer:

introduced Dorian to a brilliant muscle-building system called High Intensity Training.
It made sense, so Dorian tried a set of rows to failure

and he liked what it did to his back:

That worked out well for Dorian, so he applied the system to other exercises as also.
My goodness, it made all his body parts grow like never before! Dorian was in love and would stick to the system for life. It made him grow so effectively that he changed the size standard in bodybuilding forever.
He grew so much, some people even thought Dorian grew too big!:


HGH+Insulin...not HIT.... ::)
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Re: An interesting story...
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2008, 04:31:27 PM »

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Re: An interesting story...
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2008, 04:32:43 PM »
Fixed.  ;)

Drugs...Ronnie was bigger because of better genetics and drugs....at that level your training style doesn't mean shit.
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Re: An interesting story...
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2008, 04:43:00 PM »
Drugs...Ronnie was bigger because of better genetics and drugs....at that level your training style doesn't mean shit.

HIT REVOLUTIONIZED DORIAN AND BODYBUILDING CONSEQUENTIALLY.

Once he switched to this type of training he broke into new levels.
The rate of gain was abnormal, he couldn't gain at that rate on his old routines, but when he switched to HIT with the same drugs he saw his rate of gain increase many times over. You act like drugs is the only factor.  ::) Thanks for at least pointing out his genetic advantage. The drugs were a major factor, I'll give you that, but others have had to take far more to get such size.

Yes, Dorian raised the size standard, he revolutionized bodybuilding and forced everyone else to take more drugs. But to ignore the changes that occured DIRECTLY following his change in training is wishful thinking. It's apparent you're on a mission to make Dorian Yates look bad.  ::)

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2008, 05:13:24 PM »
I never seen Dorian take 800lbs, and squat it below parallel.They both trained equally as hard, Ronnie just did more sets.
Ronnie even front squatted 5 plates.Ronnie was bigger and had better symmetry .

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2008, 07:46:22 PM »
I personally think coleman took it to the fucking max. heavy weights with high reps

Yate also had great work ethic but not like colemans

cutler works his ass off

levrone trained hard when he was training

I like ruhls trainings to.

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2008, 07:53:39 PM »
I consider how "hard" someone trains to be the highest momentary point of intensity achieved. I'd agree, they both trained hard as a mofo, but under my definition Dorian trained "harder" than Ronnie because he measured the success of his workouts by the point of INTENSITY reached. Ronnie had more volume, but that would require the intensity to be more equally distributed between sets, therefore sacrificed. Intensity was Dorian's goal and that's what he would strive for in his workouts.

More volume doesn't equal "harder training" to the extent that a higher point of intensity achieved does.

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2008, 07:56:52 PM »
I do know this, Dorian didn't need a guru to hold his hand every contest and could think for himself, unlike Mr. "Nuttin-But-a-Peanut".

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2008, 08:25:12 PM »
What if Dorian was black?

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2008, 08:27:27 PM »
What if Dorian was black?

He would then be a legendary black guy who trained harder than Ronnie.

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2008, 03:32:48 AM »
I consider how "hard" someone trains to be the highest momentary point of intensity achieved. I'd agree, they both trained hard as a mofo, but under my definition Dorian trained "harder" than Ronnie because he measured the success of his workouts by the point of INTENSITY reached. Ronnie had more volume, but that would require the intensity to be more equally distributed between sets, therefore sacrificed. Intensity was Dorian's goal and that's what he would strive for in his workouts.

More volume doesn't equal "harder training" to the extent that a higher point of intensity achieved does.

dorian has never displayed the intensity that ronnie has during his 800lb deadlifts or 600 lb squats.  ;)
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2008, 03:34:29 AM »
What if Dorian was black?

If Dorian were black he'd be Ronnie ;)
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2008, 10:26:15 AM »
Both trained hard...thatīs for sure...but also both trained different....

Ronnie trained heavier, but used a lot of momentum in some/most exercises...his reps where much quicker than dorianīs
Dorian trained heavy, but only so heavy that he was able to control the weight, his reps where slower than Ronnies.
Ronnie most of the time did more reps than Dorian, but the Time of the sets where pretty much the same (12-15 speed reps like Ronnie did, equals the same time Dorian need for 6-8 reps).
Ronnie trained with more volume & hit the same muscles earlier (some 2 times a week) than Dorian (maybe 1 musclegroup in 6-8 days)

Just look at 10 Prof. Bodybuilder, and you will find 5-6 ways how they will train....

In the End: "it works for Ronnie and Dorian" (together 13 Sandows....)


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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2008, 11:27:39 AM »
Looks like we all agree that dorian trained harder
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2008, 11:32:02 AM »
no.
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2008, 11:33:51 AM »
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2008, 12:23:42 PM »
no ron didnt train harder

he didnt pus himself as hard as dorian pushed himself.

he pushed heavier weights, total, but they were not as demanding on ronnie as the weight dorian pushed was on him.

dorian was spent.

ronnie had more gas in teh tank.

conclusion:

dorian wins
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2008, 12:28:53 PM »
Funny story,

I was at the gym today and this bunch of guys were talking about how hard Ronnie trained, refering to a few of his videos... when I stopped and said "Excuse me fellas, but as hard as Ronnie trained, he didn't train as hard as Dorian!" that shut them up good!

OWNED!!!
We should have a mentally challenged board....Members like Blue Toe,NaturalWeiner,Sharmin , bobtheknob,and Gaytpunani should be the only ones allowed to post there..

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2008, 12:29:23 PM »
We should have a mentally challenged board....Members like Blue Toe,NaturalWeiner,Sharmin , bobtheknob,and Gaytpunani should be the only ones allowed to post there..


stop crying little bitch just because you lose all the time
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2008, 12:30:05 PM »
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2008, 12:31:52 PM »

stop crying little bitch just because you lose all the time
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2008, 12:41:16 PM »
training harder or not, Ronnie Coleman will always be the pinnacle of muscularity and human physical development
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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2008, 12:43:57 PM »
training harder or not, Ronnie Coleman will always be the pinnacle of muscularity and human physical development
Ronnie trianed harder...But you are spot on..It didn't get bette than Coleman in his prime!

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Re: Dorian trained harder than Ronnie
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2008, 12:47:28 PM »
Ronnie trianed harder...But you are spot on..It didn't get bette than Coleman in his prime!
Dorian didnt even have good arms, and his quads look like shit from the front, and his chest was small compared to his back..... but i guess being 'white' goes a long ways.  ::) ::)
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