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Title: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 04, 2008, 07:07:52 PM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

Rollin on sticks baby! Light weight!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman7.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Coleman04.JPG)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:16:24 PM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)


You shouldn't have said anything now the nutt-huggers will spam the poll lol that poll doesn't count though ONLY the ones that they say are right lol
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: mass 04 on December 04, 2008, 07:20:40 PM
MAKE IT STOP
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: BayGBM on December 04, 2008, 07:21:23 PM
I love Doz, but hell no!  At their respective bests, Ronnie wins--easily!
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: jude2 on December 04, 2008, 07:23:54 PM
Ronnie over yates at their prime.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 04, 2008, 07:25:48 PM
Ronnie over yates at their prime.

Nope. Dorian was undefeated after 1992. Ronnie lost to several mid tier BBs in the grand scheme of things. Also, Ronnie was closer to his prime than Dorian in 96 and 97 and still wasn't even close to Doz.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: aglifter on December 04, 2008, 07:32:14 PM
Ronnie is the greatest ever.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: elite_lifter on December 04, 2008, 07:33:42 PM
RONNIE
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: mass 04 on December 04, 2008, 07:38:40 PM
DONNIE
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Cavalier22 on December 04, 2008, 07:43:29 PM
neither
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: bigguns23 on December 04, 2008, 07:46:53 PM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

Rollin on sticks baby! Light weight!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman7.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Coleman04.JPG)



Those two pics ARE NOT Ronnie at his prime little bud.
These are.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: elite_lifter on December 04, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
Damn Ronnie destroying Jay in that back pic.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:57:02 PM


Those two pics ARE NOT Ronnie at his prime little bud.
These are.

Neither of those are Ronnie's prime
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:57:45 PM
Damn Ronnie destroying Jay in that back pic.

;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/2003Mr.OlympiaPrejudging8ab.jpg)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 04, 2008, 07:58:25 PM
Hulkster!





I'm calling a truce!
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: triple_pickle on December 04, 2008, 08:30:49 PM
and that "internet poll" is a representative sample of the population ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 04, 2008, 09:59:35 PM
He's destroying Jay on loose neck skin here  ::)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/2003Mr.OlympiaPrejudging8ab.jpg)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: GoneAway on December 04, 2008, 10:06:21 PM
Dorian only beats Ronnie in polls because of Dorian's recent media exposure on websites like BB.com. His name is out there in the public's eye and that creates a buzz about him. More people are viewing his pics alone and marvelling over his physique more than Ronnie's right now, because Ronnie isn't creating much of a buzz with tell-all interviews. Thus, there is more liklihood that Joe Weightlifter will pick Dorian in a poll, because they've built up a recent admiration for him due to his recent publicity.

Ronnie would win a poll if the same marketing tools were used on him.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Karl Kox on December 04, 2008, 10:06:43 PM
YATES NEVER BEATS COLMAN .
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 10:10:14 PM
something that fellow getbiggers should know:

a while back there was a ronnie vs dorian poll going on at several well known bb sites

dorian was loosing by hundreds of votes in each one.

we posted these polls on the truce thread to show the dorian nuthuggers.

guess what happened right after that?

dorian's vote count mysteriously went up by almost 2 THOUSAND votes over a week period.

and the dorian nuthuggers posting on the truce thread denied any involvement...

 ::) ::)

I would not be surprised if the same thing happened now...
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 04, 2008, 10:12:41 PM
bullshit! The count never went up "thousands"  ::) Yates won fair and square, as he has in this most recent BB.com poll.

Dorian owns Ronnie. Dorian owns proBB. He is the godfather of modern bodybuilding and the man with the freakiest combo of condition, density, and mass to ever step on the Olympia stage.

Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: io856 on December 04, 2008, 10:51:07 PM
Yates would not only beat Coleman but dominate him.

Dorian Yates at his best is the most complete bodybuilder to ever walk the Earth.

Most people recognise this...
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 04, 2008, 10:54:44 PM
Dorian only beats Ronnie in polls because of Dorian's recent media exposure on websites like BB.com. His name is out there in the public's eye and that creates a buzz about him. More people are viewing his pics alone and marvelling over his physique more than Ronnie's right now, because Ronnie isn't creating much of a buzz with tell-all interviews. Thus, there is more liklihood that Joe Weightlifter will pick Dorian in a poll, because they've built up a recent admiration for him due to his recent publicity.

Ronnie would win a poll if the same marketing tools were used on him.

  What a bunch of crap. I can argue the same: that Ronnie wins more often in polls because he's a more recent Olympia winner, so people remember him better than Dorian, who retired over a decade ago. In fact, this is far more plausible than what you are claiming.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 04, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
Just look at dorian's face here...nobody EVER stepped on stage this dehydrated. In fact, I believe I have seen cadavers more hydrated than Dorian was at this point in time.

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: GoneAway on December 04, 2008, 11:09:49 PM
  What a bunch of crap. I can argue the same: that Ronnie wins more often in polls because he's a more recent Olympia winner, so people remember him better than Dorian, who retired over a decade ago. In fact, this is far more plausible than what you are claiming.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I wouldn't doubt that both our answers play a part, yet many polls and statements are made when someone's publicity is on a high. Those statements or polls can't be viewed with the same validity as when that person was as obscure as their opponent (Ronnie) is right now, pertaining to media attention. The media is a powerful tool.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Just look at dorian's face here...nobody EVER stepped on stage this dehydrated. In fact, I believe I have seen cadavers more hydrated than Dorian was at this point in time.

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

what exactly are you looking at? I see Dorian's face but I don't see this level of dehydration you speak of. ???
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2008, 01:00:05 AM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

Rollin on sticks baby! Light weight!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman7.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Coleman04.JPG)

You limey prick.  How convienient to pick and old pic and a pic non flattering pic, bet you had to dig hard for that you pasty f uck.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 05, 2008, 01:56:35 AM
You limey prick.  How convienient to pick and old pic and a pic non flattering pic, bet you had to dig hard for that you pasty f uck.



How about this disaster? 2004. What a joke. Ronnie got a gift by virtue of his main competition being the guy to the right with a waist wider than his lats  ::)

(http://ifbbtv.com/video3/2004_groups_stage.gif)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 05, 2008, 02:00:25 AM
Worst leg balance in the history of Mr. Olympia. Ugly turnip quads rollin' on broomsticks

(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_20.jpg)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: England_1 on December 05, 2008, 02:04:17 AM
 :-X

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09tS9zk0aTdeM/340x.jpg)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 05, 2008, 02:07:49 AM
Ronnie 2003 and maybe 2005 is the best body ever for size, hardness and proportion IMO.

Yates was good but Ronnie in 2003 would just be too big.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Gino30 on December 05, 2008, 03:27:24 AM
Dorian for the knighthood
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: jaejonna on December 05, 2008, 06:13:48 AM
Are you saying that People who actually went on BB.com to read a DORIAN article were polled in the middle of the article actaully voted that Dorian was the best ? Thats like going to a star trek convention and asking everyone there whats better star trek or star wars .. hahahahha
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: QuakerOats on December 05, 2008, 06:21:06 AM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

Rollin on sticks baby! Light weight!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman7.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Coleman04.JPG)
hahahahaa, just shows you that the people voting on bodyskinny.com were all white, Dorian couldn't beat this in a million fucckin' years. :D
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Bear on December 05, 2008, 06:28:10 AM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

Yes - Definitely    46.7% 154 (46.7%)
No Way    31.5% 104 (31.5%)
It Would Be Too Close To Tell    21.8% 72 (21.8%)

...just as we all expected...now that Coleman is retired, he will fade away and be remembered as the guy that didn't know when to hang it up and ended up with a 4th place gift (other gifts included 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004). Great bb'er though, 2nd best behind King Yates.


(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/DorianYates1.jpg)

Rollin on sticks baby! Light weight!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronniecoleman7.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/comstock/olymp/Coleman04.JPG)

Epic stupid picture choice.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: BM OUT on December 05, 2008, 07:00:57 AM
Yates would not only beat Coleman but dominate him.

Dorian Yates at his best is the most complete bodybuilder to ever walk the Earth.

Most people recognise this...

Really?Almost every pro bodybuilder from Flex to Sean Ray etc. all say Ronnie is the best of all time.In fact,I dont know one pro bodybuilder who has said Dorian was better then Ronnie.In fact,didnt Dorian himself say Ronnie was better?
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 10:46:56 AM
Ronnie 2003 and maybe 2005 is the best body ever for size, hardness and proportion IMO.

Yates was good but Ronnie in 2003 would just be too big.

  I literally laughed out loud when I read those two words. Are you people shitting me? Will you ever learn? How can he have great proportions with calves that are too small for his quads, forearms that are too small for his arms, quads that are too small for his torso, a gut that is too big for the entire body and an ass that is too big for the entire body from the back as well? How can he be hard when he has a clear film of water and fat under the skin making the separations between his muscles blurry and his skin puffy?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: 250goal on December 05, 2008, 10:59:29 AM
Ronnie was very strong, I'll give him that.  Strength isn't everything in bodybuilding.  Powerlifting yes, but we are talking about bodybuilding.

Ronnie had no calves, very unsymmetrical even in the beginning before his muscle tears.  His waist was too big, and he never really was ripped to shreds.  Ronnie won his Olympias because of his size, and because Gutler wasn't close enough to beat him at those times.

Dorian on the other hand did not have any of Ronnie's flaws, also had size, and was ripped to shreds.  Even at his worse Olympia showing he still was able to win, not because he was the best but because 2nd place wasn't good enough to beat him.  That speaks volumes.  It would devastate me knowing that a guy beat me having a torn tricep and he was still better then me.

Dorian might not have been quite as strong as Ronnie, but NO ONE had the intensity as Dorian did.

That is what bodybuilding is about.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Griffith on December 05, 2008, 11:36:48 AM
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09tS9zk0aTdeM/340x.jpg)
Looks like an alien is about to explode out of his stomach any second  :o
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 05, 2008, 12:48:00 PM
  I literally laughed out loud when I read those two words. Are you people shitting me? Will you ever learn? How can he have great proportions with calves that are too small for his quads, forearms that are too small for his arms, quads that are too small for his torso, a gut that is too big for the entire body and an ass that is too big for the entire body from the back as well? How can he be hard when he has a clear film of water and fat under the skin making the separations between his muscles blurry and his skin puffy?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

All you guys go on about calfs all day, they mean very little.

I can't be bothered with the rest, show me a pic from 2005 with Ronnie having a film of water under the skin. Yes 2003 he wasn't perfect but he was still in very good condition and unbelievably huge.

Ronnie was massive in both years, and had all the bodyparts. Too much for Dorian IMO.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 01:37:34 PM
All you guys go on about calfs all day, they mean very little.

I can't be bothered with the rest, show me a pic from 2005 with Ronnie having a film of water under the skin. Yes 2003 he wasn't perfect but he was still in very good condition and unbelievably huge.

Ronnie was massive in both years, and had all the bodyparts. Too much for Dorian IMO.

  It's not only calves. Are you illiterate? I said Ronnie had: glutes, quads, forearms, gut all out of proportion with the rest of his physique. Add to that his shitty conditioning, and you can't say that Ronnie would beat Doian because he was bigger. According to Kevin Horton, Dorian's conditoning at 280+ lbs has not been matched to this day, and Horton said that Dorian still had good balance at that weight. If you want to compare Ronnie 2003 against Dorian, then match him against Dorian at the same weight.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: CoolDuck on December 05, 2008, 02:52:59 PM
Do You Think Dorian Yates At His Best Would Beat Ronnie Coleman At His Best?

No way. Ronnie was clearly superior. Yates had better calves and I preferred the look of his quads over Ronnies. However, Ronnie crushed Yates on arms and chest- maybe also on shoulders. Backs were both very good, but Ronnie had more thickness.

CD
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: io856 on December 06, 2008, 01:04:44 AM
I'm glad its finally settled and most of us accept the dominance and superiority of Dorian Yates.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: JasonH on December 06, 2008, 02:39:12 AM
Ronnie had weird looking abs and no calves. When you compare bodypart for bodypart, or mandatory pose by mandatory pose, Dorian would edge out the win. Ronnie might have been bigger, but he has never come close in a million years to beat Yates on conditioning.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Meso_z on December 06, 2008, 02:59:10 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250918.0;attach=290954;image)

thats not KING KONG.
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: hazbin on December 06, 2008, 03:10:23 AM
Worst leg balance in the history of Mr. Olympia. Ugly turnip quads rollin' on broomsticks

(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_20.jpg)

not quite
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 06:25:45 AM
Quote
Backs were both very good, but Ronnie had more thickness.

very true. ronnie's back was much thicker than dorian's, dorian's looked paper thin by comparison:
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 06, 2008, 06:29:41 AM
haha all the yates nuthuggers being destroyed in here
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2008, 06:36:17 AM
very true. ronnie's back was much thicker than dorian's, dorian's looked paper thin by comparison:

Photoshopped you have balls posting your photoshopped pics of Ronnie again especially seeing Muscletime has nice quality pics of the 99 Olympia and ironically they don't look anything like your enhanced shots lol


that's the only way is going to beat Dorian in your fantasy comparisons and enhanced screencaps  ;)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2008, 06:39:50 AM
very true. ronnie's back was much thicker than dorian's, dorian's looked paper thin by comparison:

Here is Kevin Horton busting Hulkster & Bizzy and they enhanced screencaps that Hulkster the dummy is till using LMFAO


BUSTED
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 07:00:09 AM
Photoshopped you have balls posting your photoshopped pics of Ronnie again especially seeing Muscletime has nice quality pics of the 99 Olympia and ironically they don't look anything like your enhanced shots lol


that's the only way is going to beat Dorian in your fantasy comparisons and enhanced screencaps  ;)

not photoshopped at all.

as other Getbiggers who are much smarter than you have told you, watch the 99 olympia video.

its the same as the screenshots.

your pathetic insistance that the screenshots are fake won't fly here.

sorry, nice try.


dorian was never this good:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 07:02:11 AM
I love how just because the video clips/screencaps from the 99 olympia show Ronnie being so much better than anything dorian ever presented ND's only recourse is to proclaim them fake and photoshopped LOL

 ::)

obviously, he has never seen the vid himself like the rest of us. :-\
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 07:04:18 AM
screenshots for screenshot, its not even close folks.

cue ND's tired old pathetic 'they are photoshopped!" excuse LOL

 ::)

Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 07:07:43 AM
what ND hasn't figured out yet is that EVERY and ALL screencaps always looks a little different than camera photos.

he should be glad he has the rest of getbig to teach him the basics.

screenshot vs photo.

I guess the dorian screenshots are faked~! ::)
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: Hulkster on December 06, 2008, 07:08:46 AM
hey ND, I think all your dorian screenshots must be photoshopped because they look different than the photos..LOL ::)

you make no fucking sense..

you really can't deal with the fact that particularly 99 Ronnie was that much better, can you?

sad sad sad..
Title: Re: BB.com poll: Yates at his best beats Coleman
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 06, 2008, 10:25:16 AM
not photoshopped at all.

as other Getbiggers who are much smarter than you have told you, watch the 99 olympia video.

its the same as the screenshots.

your pathetic insistance that the screenshots are fake won't fly here.

sorry, nice try.


dorian was never this good:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

MORON Kevin Horton told YOU they were photoshopped the video YOU posted was by Bizzy it's the same source NONE of the screencaps YOU posted match any other of the screencaps from forcedreps

Kevin Horton is one of the sports most respected photographer's you word is USELESS compared to his you're an idiot