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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: tstmaniac on December 07, 2008, 01:43:40 PM
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If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...
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thanks for the warning
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did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ? cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip
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If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...
staph that is scarey shit...would never use it for one heard to many bad stories and two it is UG and I have access to HG
so why chance it
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did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ? cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip
That's just it, you have no real world experience. This kind of thing has happened in the past with IP(if it was the gear). You just haven't been around long enough to know!
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did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ? cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip
theres always that possibilty he could have fucked up..but i highly doubt it...hes a smart dude that knows his shit..and he got welted up everywhere he injected it...the last shot was the worst one...just trying help you guys out in case you consider using the stuff...just be cautious..btw he has used IP numerous times without issues but this time he got unlucky..
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theres always that possibilty he could have fucked up..but i highly doubt it...hes a smart dude that knows his shit..and he got welted up everywhere he injected it...the last shot was the worst one...just trying help you guys out in case you consider using the stuff...just be cautious
4sho thanks for letting us know
was it straight from ip or from a remailer
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That's just it, you have no real world experience. This kind of thing has happened in the past with IP(if it was the gear). You just haven't been around long enough to know!
suck it, douche
Dont be angry because I speak the truth candi! You lie on boards, and I have ZERO tollerance for guys like you!
hahahahahahahaah what do i lie about ?? NOTHING i dont lie you just cant stand i dont respect you ..but i only dont respect you because you DISrespect me (on several occcasion)..
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4sho thanks for letting us know
was it straight from ip or from a remailer
it was legit IP
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it was legit IP
well his remailers shouild be 'legit ip' since they come from ip and work for ip.. (if you email his remailers your atually emailing ip over in china and he just passes on the word to the remailer (whoever that is)
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mods
Can you please delete all posts from a certain troublemaker? thanks
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staph that is scarey shit...would never use it for one heard to many bad stories and two it is UG and I have access to HG
so why chance it
smart move..im staying with HG myself...had a couple bad experiences with UG and that was the end of that
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If you choose to use IP (or other) UG gear are there precautions to take to minimize the risks of infection?
For instance can you heat it in the oven to make sure it's sterile? Does this work for all types of gear or do the temps that you can heat to differ based on the hormone used? If you CAN heat them does anyone know the different temps that are OK for each hormone?
For example, can you heat stanozolol to 250 degrees Farenheit like you can Tren?
Just a thought....I don't know much about it, but it occured to me that this may be an option....
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If you choose to use IP (or other) UG gear are there precautions to take to minimize the risks of infection?
For instance can you heat it in the oven to make sure it's sterile? Does this work for all types of gear or do the temps that you can heat to differ based on the hormone used? If you CAN heat them does anyone know the different temps that are OK for each hormone?
For example, can you heat stanozolol to 250 degrees Farenheit like you can Tren?
Just a thought....I don't know much about it, but it occured to me that this may be an option....
This is a post by "Nandi"
All these low temperature baking schemes, whether with alternating heat or not are not going to kill anything. 150 degrees C ( 300 F ) is the lowest temperature I have seen cited as being effective for dry heat sterilization.
Intermittent heating and cooling is designed to kill spores. You heat the bacteria, killing them, then wait 24 to 48 hours for the spores to germinate, then reheat. Repeat again. It is called Tyndallization
Also, I can never understand why these debates continue over and over again. If people simply used the industry standard of filterization, the 0.2 micron sterile filter, you would end up with an essentially sterile product. What few bacteria that may get through will be rendered unable to multiply by the benzyl alcohol. It is that simple.
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This is a post by "Nandi"
nadi is correct. Most of the hormones have stability temperatures below 150C, so you are basically inactivating the product, and you sure as hell aren't sterilizing anything with most of the online "baking" schemes.
Filtration at 0.2 micron is effective, however beware there are some particularly nasty common bacteria like Pasturella spp that need a 50% BA to sterilize against. They'll love growing in anything less.
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did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ? cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip
Hahahah!!!! you fucking retarded nooob, IP is one of the biggest scammers on the net, half his shit is fake or grossly underdosed!!! pfft..
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not first infection and plenty will be soon done...his gear is total shit..you must to be idiot to take ip gear.
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Yeah, but candi (tbombz) the Vet said IP gear is the greatest!
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Yeah, but candi (tbombz) the Vet said IP gear is the greatest!
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years of experience mate, years of experience
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years of experience mate, years of experience
BwaHahaha LMAO thanx for the info Benzo!
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If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...
This one? Or was it different?
(http://www.steroider.net/bildeprofiler/FalskInternational09.jpg)
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they were amps
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This one? Or was it different?
(http://www.steroider.net/bildeprofiler/FalskInternational09.jpg)
that wouldnt be IP china thats IP from europe..different
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nadi is correct. Most of the hormones have stability temperatures below 150C, so you are basically inactivating the product, and you sure as hell aren't sterilizing anything with most of the online "baking" schemes.
the hormones do not have stability temperatures below 150c (300F)... i think your thinking of "melting poin"..which is not the "inactivation point".. the point at which the heat starts to degrade most hormones is something like 450-500F..
the 'baking schemes' are not so much to sterilize, as they are for other purpouses. to make 'cloudy' gear into clear gear. to melt your powder into gel if your powder has become a solid. to reduce the concentration of BA if your gear is painful and you know its from a high BA concentrations. etc etc.
Also, I can never understand why these debates continue over and over again. If people simply used the industry standard of filterization, the 0.2 micron sterile filter, you would end up with an essentially sterile product. What few bacteria that may get through will be rendered unable to multiply by the benzyl alcohol. It is that simple.
this is true but like i said the heating isnt only just to sterilize
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they were amps
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Isn't it possible he got the infection from something other than then amp itself? Was he sterile in the way that he injected?
Trust me, I'm not defending any UG supplier. I just think people automatically blame them when something goes wrong.
After reading all the negative comments on here about IP, I went and asked one of my friends who is very, very, very knowledgable about these things and he said IP is good to go. I was surprised since some of the more knowledgeable guys on here have said the opposite, but it just goes to show that opinions do vary even among those that have been around 20+ years and seen and heard it all.
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with HG gear so readily accessible i can not understand why people still go the ip route.
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Isn't it possible he got the infection from something other than then amp itself? Was he sterile in the way that he injected?
Trust me, I'm not defending any UG supplier. I just think people automatically blame them when something goes wrong.
After reading all the negative comments on here about IP, I went and asked one of my friends who is very, very, very knowledgable about these things and he said IP is good to go. I was surprised since some of the more knowledgeable guys on here have said the opposite, but it just goes to show that opinions do vary even among those that have been around 20+ years and seen and heard it all.
if your friend was soo knowledgeable he wouldnt say IP is good to go...he would tell you its an underground lab and to be carefull with it...my buddy is an experienced user and has been using for a long time...theres always the possibility that he fucked up...but i highly doubt it..he def was sterile when injecting..
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thats scary.. most would consider amps safe. I guess to be safe you'd have to filter everything.
If its UG its never 100 percent safe wether it would be amps or vials...but to each his own..some ppl dont mind taking that risk..
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So you guys would not use Denkall or Quality Vet products? I have some stanozolol that's Denkall I believe. Aren't both made by IP now?
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So you guys would not use Denkall or Quality Vet products? I have some stanozolol that's Denkall I believe. Aren't both made by IP now?
Yea he started counterfeiting the Mexican lines about 2 years ago, holograms and all.
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So you guys would not use Denkall or Quality Vet products? I have some stanozolol that's Denkall I believe. Aren't both made by IP now?
i would stick with zambon..
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Where does IP sell his stuff, I never saw him on any boards or anything.
jt
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Where does IP sell his stuff, I never saw him on any boards or anything.
jt
That's not a question that should be answered in the open.
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Where does IP sell his stuff, I never saw him on any boards or anything.
jt
yes you have
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yes you have
Well I mean, someone sold IP on SSB, but I do not remember if it was actually international pharmaceuticals now that I think about it. Why is it so popular?
jt
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Well I mean, someone sold IP on SSB, but I do not remember if it was actually international pharmaceuticals now that I think about it. Why is it so popular?
jt
well first off your never going to get international pharmaceuticals from europe. i meant ip china.
its popular because its reliable, relatively affordble, compared to other UG it is very effective, and it comes in nice shiny bottles and amps with cool labels and such. lol. well, ip has alot of cool stuff... like, i believe he was the first to have pcgl. he sells everything you could want..dnp ai diuretics orals, injects, gh, igf, pcg, ancillaqries...ect ect ect.. you name it hes got it, and for cheap and its quality (compared to all other ug). and again, its relaiable... he has lots of domestic remailers which dont have to go through customs and cant be searched without a warrant...and his stuff form china is good to... cuz from what ive heard from people more experienced and older than myself, IP has done some favors for some officials.
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well first off your never going to get international pharmaceuticals from europe. i meant ip china.
its popular because its reliable, relatively affordble, compared to other UG it is very effective, and it comes in nice shiny bottles and amps with cool labels and such. lol. well, ip has alot of cool stuff... like, i believe he was the first to have pcgl. he sells everything you could want..dnp ai diuretics orals, injects, gh, igf, pcg, ancillaqries...ect ect ect.. you name it hes got it, and for cheap and its quality (compared to all other ug). and again, its relaiable... he has lots of domestic remailers which dont have to go through customs and cant be searched without a warrant...and his stuff form china is good to... cuz from what ive heard from people more experienced and older than myself, IP has done some favors for some officials.
Its not quality gear. Also how hard is it to get a search warrant for a domestic supplier? Let me answer your question - "not very". Too bad you weren't around last year when ORD went down, you would know this. Its even worse when the domestics go down because they give up their client lists all the time, every time. He is a known counterfeiter, and this is not the first time reports have surfaced about people getting infections from his gear.
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Its not quality gear. Also how hard is it to get a search warrant for a domestic supplier? Let me answer your question - "not very". Too bad you weren't around last year when ORD went down, you would know this. Its even worse when the domestics go down because they give up their client lists all the time, every time. He is a known counterfeiter, and this is not the first time reports have surfaced about people getting infections from his gear.
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I'll second and third that....that fucker is the ORIGINAL underground of steroids, he's been in the game for almost 20 years. His last decent product were those yummy blue 50mg winny tabs about 4-5 years back.
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Its not quality gear. Also how hard is it to get a search warrant for a domestic supplier? Let me answer your question - "not very". Too bad you weren't around last year when ORD went down, you would know this. Its even worse when the domestics go down because they give up their client lists all the time, every time. He is a known counterfeiter, and this is not the first time reports have surfaced about people getting infections from his gear.
Bad man ...very bad man :-[
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yeah okay whatever.. do your thing ill do mine and ill see you guys at the finish line ..(ill be waiting with some water and a meal after i took a shower and dired off and changed and watched a few of mmy favorite movies then fucker your wives ;) )
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yeah okay whatever.. do your thing ill do mine and ill see you guys at the finish line ..(ill be waiting with some water and a meal after i took a shower and dired off and changed and watched a few of mmy favorite movies then fucker your wives ;) )
The story of the hare and the tourtise..you know how that ended ;)
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im road runner , the rest are yosemite sam
MEEP MEEP !!
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im road runner , the rest are yosemite sam
MEEP MEEP !!
Make sure you work your legs..you dont want legs like the road runner , he is quick but still got chicken legs
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I know two others personally who both had alot of trouble with the IP prop amps. One had severe redness, swelling, and pain ( I mean SEVERE pain) and the other got a nasty thigh infection. I have used many of his orals and even his new QV line with good results, but his amps always hurt like hell along with flu symptoms.
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OK, thanks for the feedback guys. There's way too many negative stories out there for these just to be random occurances.
I'll ask my previous question a different way. If I already have some of the QV and DK stuff (stanozolol and parabolan), should I just not use it? Cause, I've heard good stories about those lines, when in fact they are made by IP.....which makes me hesitant.
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OK, thanks for the feedback guys. There's way too many negative stories out there for these just to be random occurances.
I'll ask my previous question a different way. If I already have some of the QV and DK stuff (stanozolol and parabolan), should I just not use it? Cause, I've heard good stories about those lines, when in fact they are made by IP.....which makes me hesitant.
Well bro I guess you need to ask your self if your health is #1, or you'r just a reckless user like Candi? I have a feeling candi would stuff anything in his body just to chase the dream. Kind of sad if you ask me. THe BB'ers of the 90's who are dropping like flies today are the ones who took candi's approach to gear use. Slow and steady wins this race, and you need to take care of your body.
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Well bro I guess you need to ask your self if your health is #1, or you'r just a reckless user like Candi? I have a feeling candi would stuff anything in his body just to chase the dream. Kind of sad if you ask me. THe BB'ers of the 90's who are dropping like flies today are the ones who took candi's approach to gear use. Slow and steady wins this race, and you need to take care of your body.
oh brother lmao ahahahahah lol oolololol hahah your a clown lolol hahahah a ;D ;D ;D
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Talk about a clown dizzle, AREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO I CAUGHT LYING ON BoS?
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Dont forget I was one of your biggest supporters on this board until I found out what your really about. I think your a danger to the community. You should be banned from all boards.
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Talk about a clown dizzle, AREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO I CAUGHT LYING ON BoS?
lololol well guess what 4thad that was before anybody foud out tbombz was me and when i asked for advice on where i could get sme stuff for homebrewing the guy incinuated i was going to be selling the stuff illegally so i just said it was for personal use and it was legal in my country..hoping that would make him think it was okay to give me some advice i was looking for...... yeah i guess im such a lier.. 'you caught me' ;D... hahah lmao you such a fuckin joke ;D
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I think the mods of this board need to focus in candidizzle's post, and delete them at sight, else this forum will fuck up thanks to him.
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Dont forget I was one of your biggest supporters on this board until I found out what your really about. I think your a danger to the community. You should be banned from all boards.
wha im really about ? lmao what the fuck .. your stupid.. so being all about bodybuilding is a dqanger to the 'communtiy' huh ??? haha you know what 4th i will bet i use less gear than you do....
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Are you lying on the boards again dizzle?