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[tstmaniac]

If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...

[Stavios]

thanks for the warning

[tbombz]

did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ?    cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip

[iron_dawg]

If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...

staph that is scarey shit...would never use it for one heard to many bad stories and two it is UG and I have access to HG
so why chance it

[4thAD]

did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ?    cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip

That's just it, you have no real world experience. This kind of thing has happened in the past with IP(if it was the gear). You just haven't been around long enough to know!

[tstmaniac]

did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ?    cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip

theres always that possibilty he could have fucked up..but i highly doubt it...hes a smart dude that knows his shit..and he got welted up everywhere he injected it...the last shot was the worst one...just trying help you guys out in case you consider using the stuff...just be cautious..btw he has used IP numerous times without issues but this time he got unlucky..

[tbombz]

theres always that possibilty he could have fucked up..but i highly doubt it...hes a smart dude that knows his shit..and he got welted up everywhere he injected it...the last shot was the worst one...just trying help you guys out in case you consider using the stuff...just be cautious

4sho thanks for letting us know


was it straight from ip or from a remailer

[tbombz]

That's just it, you have no real world experience. This kind of thing has happened in the past with IP(if it was the gear). You just haven't been around long enough to know!

suck it, douche

Dont be angry because I speak the truth candi! You lie on boards, and I have ZERO tollerance for guys like you!

hahahahahahahaah what do i lie about ?? NOTHING i dont lie you just cant stand i dont respect you ..but i only dont respect you because you DISrespect me (on several occcasion)..

[tstmaniac]

4sho thanks for letting us know


was it straight from ip or from a remailer

it was legit IP

[tbombz]

it was legit IP

well his remailers shouild be 'legit ip' since they come from ip and work for ip.. (if you email his remailers your atually emailing ip over in china and he just passes on the word to the remailer (whoever that is)

[benz]

mods
Can you please delete all posts from a certain troublemaker? thanks

[tstmaniac]

staph that is scarey shit...would never use it for one heard to many bad stories and two it is UG and I have access to HG
so why chance it

smart move..im staying with HG myself...had a couple bad experiences with UG and that was the end of that

[abc123]

If you choose to use IP (or other) UG gear are there precautions to take to minimize the risks of infection? 

For instance can you heat it in the oven to make sure it's sterile?  Does this work for all types of gear or do the temps that you can heat to differ based on the hormone used?  If you CAN heat them does anyone know the different temps that are OK for each hormone?

For example, can you heat stanozolol to 250 degrees Farenheit like you can Tren?

Just a thought....I don't know much about it, but it occured to me that this may be an option....

[Van_Bilderass]

If you choose to use IP (or other) UG gear are there precautions to take to minimize the risks of infection? 

For instance can you heat it in the oven to make sure it's sterile?  Does this work for all types of gear or do the temps that you can heat to differ based on the hormone used?  If you CAN heat them does anyone know the different temps that are OK for each hormone?

For example, can you heat stanozolol to 250 degrees Farenheit like you can Tren?

Just a thought....I don't know much about it, but it occured to me that this may be an option....

This is a post by "Nandi"

All these low temperature baking schemes, whether with alternating heat or not are not going to kill anything. 150 degrees C ( 300 F ) is the lowest temperature I have seen cited as being effective for dry heat sterilization.

Intermittent heating and cooling is designed to kill spores. You heat the bacteria, killing them, then wait 24 to 48 hours for the spores to germinate, then reheat. Repeat again. It is called Tyndallization

Also, I can never understand why these debates continue over and over again. If people simply used the industry standard of filterization, the 0.2 micron sterile filter, you would end up with an essentially sterile product. What few bacteria that may get through will be rendered unable to multiply by the benzyl alcohol. It is that simple.

[Vet]

This is a post by "Nandi"

nadi is correct.  Most of the hormones have stability temperatures below 150C, so you are basically inactivating the product, and you sure as hell aren't sterilizing anything with most of the online "baking" schemes.   

Filtration at 0.2 micron is effective, however beware there are some particularly nasty common bacteria like Pasturella spp that need a 50% BA to sterilize against.  They'll love growing in anything less. 

[Captain Equipoise]

did he use precautions such as using one needle to draw then a frh needle to pin and also wiping with alcohol ?    cuz ip is always good to go in my experience and in the experience of everyone i know who has experienced ip

Hahahah!!!! you fucking retarded nooob, IP is one of the biggest scammers on the net, half his shit is fake or grossly underdosed!!! pfft..

[stevekg]

not first infection and plenty will be soon done...his gear is total shit..you must to be idiot to take ip gear.

[4thAD]

Yeah, but candi (tbombz) the Vet said IP gear is the greatest!

 

[benz]

Yeah, but candi (tbombz) the Vet said IP gear is the greatest!

 

years of experience mate, years of experience

[4thAD]

years of experience mate, years of experience

BwaHahaha LMAO thanx for the info Benzo!

[flapjack]

If any of you guys are using international pharmaceuitcals from china becarefull..just had a buddy get a bad staff infection and abcesss from their test prop...

This one? Or was it different?

[tstmaniac]

they were amps

[tbombz]

This one? Or was it different?

that wouldnt be IP china thats IP from europe..different

[tbombz]

nadi is correct.  Most of the hormones have stability temperatures below 150C, so you are basically inactivating the product, and you sure as hell aren't sterilizing anything with most of the online "baking" schemes.  

the hormones do not have stability temperatures below 150c (300F)... i think your thinking of "melting poin"..which is not the "inactivation point".. the point at which the heat starts to degrade most hormones is something like 450-500F..

the 'baking schemes' are not so much to sterilize, as they are for other purpouses. to make 'cloudy' gear into clear gear. to melt your powder into gel if your powder has become a solid. to reduce the concentration of BA if your gear is painful and you know its from a high BA concentrations. etc etc.

Also, I can never understand why these debates continue over and over again. If people simply used the industry standard of filterization, the 0.2 micron sterile filter, you would end up with an essentially sterile product. What few bacteria that may get through will be rendered unable to multiply by the benzyl alcohol. It is that simple.

this is true but like i said the heating isnt only just to sterilize

[tstmaniac]

they were amps