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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: jtsunami on December 13, 2008, 03:52:13 PM
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The very wise DIVISION has been talking about UG steroid's and how bad they are. If you don't believe him, lets all post some pictures of Abcesses caused by these rotten roids. SSB had some good pictures of members that got abcesses from the junk that was being brewed. Please post, I will look for some in the meantime.
jt
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Here are some more :
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fukn disgusting
>:(
I'm not looking back in this thread
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wat the hell is that all about
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wat the hell is that all about
the need to get show how under ground labs roids are not the way to go, Pharmacy grade only.
jt
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fucking hell! :-X
when i am ready i need to get some pharmacy grade stuff. From where i have no idea, but damn i don't need a gash in my leg!
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fucking hell! :-X
when i am ready i need to get some pharmacy grade stuff. From where i have no idea, but damn i don't need a gash in my leg!
their are plenty of places to get Human grade/pharma grade, that UG shit is dangerous
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well my one potential place is friggin $$$$$$. After talking to him i wasn't very confident in him. Didn't have a good knowledge base. So that pretty much tapped out any local resources i know.
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well my one potential place is friggin $$$$$$. After talking to him i wasn't very confident in him. Didn't have a good knowledge base. So that pretty much tapped out any local resources i know.
how bout some online ones?
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their are plenty of places to get Human grade/pharma grade, that UG shit is dangerous
but are you sure? I mean anything can be faked. Besides an abscess can happen to a diabetic/drug addict as well. It's really not that common when you take into account the millions of injects a day.
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how bout some online ones?
i'm leery about online ones. mostly becuase i've heard of so many scams and not really sure which are reputable.
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but are you sure? I mean anything can be faked. Besides an abscess can happen to a diabetic/drug addict as well. It's really not that common when you take into account the millions of injects a day.
Yes, you need to know your sources. Ok, how many abscesses happen to diabetics, are you kidding!? They are injecting shit from the pharmacy, real shit, unless they are super dirty people with shit all over them, they aren't going to get an abscess. Drug addicts, they get them cause the shit they inject is gross and they re use needles over and over. You won't be getting abscesses with HG gear.
jt
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Yes, you need to know your sources.
Typical response with no "real" help. That's why most of us dumbfucks use UG.
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Typical response with no "real" help. That's why most of us dumbfucks use UG.
Read the sticky's, if you have a question on a source, pm a mod and ask them if they are good to go or not.
jt
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Is it impossible to get an abscess with legit HG?
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Is it impossible to get an abscess with legit HG?
only way you could is if you are a dirty guy and have shit on your skin or something that would cause it to be pushed into the puncture point and in with the oil.
jt
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Is it impossible to get an abscess with legit HG?
No it's not impossible. There's a lot of people who get sick every year (& some die) because of infections they get at hospitals.
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No it's not impossible. There's a lot of people who get sick every year (& some die) because of infections they get at hospitals.
cause they are dirty and weak
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this is a pic of me...the abcess was the result of a corked buttock due to sport. the site was the same site i used every once in a while for site injections.
the pain got worse and worse to the poiint where i couldnt walk and painkillers werent working much. i admitted to hospital with a 41C temp and scepticemia. apparently another 24-48 hours and i wouldve been dead.
they drained the wound and i spent a week in a ward.
the collateral damage was my nervous system and it destroyed nerve endings in my right calf, right pec, right trap, right quad.
that ended my weight training aspirations for good. irreversible damage. If it's worth it to do this stuff- and i was really clean BTW..then go for it.
looking backj i really regret that whole episode in my life.
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disco_stu, that is one nice muscle butt, even after all that hospital stay you had good muscle.
Sorry to hear your story. So to get it correct you bumped the place you use to inject and somehow it got infected?
jt
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yeah what is a corked buttock due to sport?
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yeah what is a corked buttock due to sport?
yeaa i have no idea what that is either? please explain...and disco why would u wait soo long to get that taken care of? ur lucky to be alive if thats is bad as u are saying it was
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"Corked" usely means haematoma or a very bad bruise(bleeding into tissue).
Ive had corked thighs playing leauge.
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the need to get show how under ground labs roids are not the way to go, Pharmacy grade only.
jt
That is not cool at all, damn
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That is not cool at all, damn
why do you have some kinda of personal vested interest in it? Dirty home made roid labs have caused a lot of users a lot of pain.
jt
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ewww i dont wanna do a cycle now if this is what could happen :-X
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ewww i dont wanna do a cycle now if this is what could happen :-X
Gene all will be ok if you use Pharmacy grade steroids.
jt
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has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot of UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.
you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.
So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.
Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.
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has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot og UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.
you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.
So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.
Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.
Yup
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has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot og UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.
you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.
So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.
Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.
you can't be serious? UG is so up and down and all around in quality it is laughable. They are accountable to no one. Pharmacy companies on the other hand are held to strict standards and if they produce shit they will lose their license to produce drugs and be put out of business, so whose product would you choose first?
jt
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This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?
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you can't be serious? UG is so up and down and all around in quality it is laughable. They are accountable to no one. Pharmacy companies on the other hand are held to strict standards and if they produce shit they will lose their license to produce drugs and be put out of business, so whose product would you choose first?
jt
You can still have problems with HG though , anytime you jab a needle into yourself you are taking the risk..even with precautions
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You can still have problems with HG though , anytime you jab a needle into yourself you are taking the risk..even with precautions
Exactly, it has little to do with the compounds, unless they are just outright shit, and more to do with sterility. It amazes me how so many guys aren't sterile with their stuff. A lot of guys I know used to not even wipe the vial tops down before drawing.
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I had a good friend that suffered the same results in the glute. He was out of commission for four weeks as he was packed with cleaners in the wound every day. I asked what he did wrong and he stated he laid the loaded syringe down on his sink before shooting. One should always be hospital clean in the enviroment your going to pin in. Keep all surfaces clean and dust-free. Always wipe you tops down with rubbing alcohol and clean the pining area as well. Good times......
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Why is it there are always people with a hidden agenda pushing their views? Why do people care so
much that others use ug labs? If you choose to use hg than great for you. I don't need to read
everyday the fucking preachers on here trying to talk everyone out of using reputable ug labs. It's never
gonna happen folks! The fact of the matter is that more people use ug labs than hg and that will always
be true. If you want to play scare tactics than I also suggest nobody ever get in a car or get on plane
ever again because way more people die and get injured driving and flying every year than getting a
fucking abscess from ug gear!!
DRDOOM
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so true.... Ask the kid that started this thread every post he has is un usefull. he just wants thread counts and has no fucking clue what he is talking about.
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JT is somewhat correct. Go look an Bill W's site and look at all of the abscess contaminating UG gear he has posted labs on. What JT is saying is, is its more probable to get an abscess with UG than HG. Some labs are sterile clean, but not all. Just be careful with what you put in your body. I think the ball busting should stop, as JT is just looking out for peoples best interests. I don't think he really truly cares if you stuff yourself with HG or UG. I think he's just looking out.
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Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..
But your right. no more bashing.
Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.
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This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?
maybe when bd first came out everyone liked it...there injects turned to shit...a lot of their shit was mislabeled and wasnt the compound it said it was...
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Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..
But your right. no more bashing.
Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.
Of course you can, but how often does that happen? JT is talking about UG's that put out dirty gear. I have heard over and over again about people getting abscesses from IP's gear. Dirty gear with high bacteria count is what usually causes the abscess. This is not the case with HG gear. There are definitely good UG's out there, but you need to be careful. UG's that use shitty powders, have high heavy metal content, and high bacteria counts. The moral of this post is just be careful what you put in your body. Know your source.
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all the abcesses ive witnessed 1st hand ( 3 local competitors ) have been a result of injecting winny,ive never came across one with anything else.
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all the abcesses ive witnessed 1st hand ( 3 local competitors ) have been a result of injecting winny,ive never came across one with anything else.
Water based gear seems to grow bacteria easier than oils.
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This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?
I sure didn't love it. Stuff was terrible of course depending which batch you got, that is because of shitty quality control.
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JT is somewhat correct. Go look an Bill W's site and look at all of the abscess contaminating UG gear he has posted labs on. What JT is saying is, is its more probable to get an abscess with UG than HG. Some labs are sterile clean, but not all. Just be careful with what you put in your body. I think the ball busting should stop, as JT is just looking out for peoples best interests. I don't think he really truly cares if you stuff yourself with HG or UG. I think he's just looking out.
thx 4th. Yeah I don't sell the shit, I could care less. The point is, I just don't get is why someone would put a questionable product into them and not know weather it will cripple them from workouts that week or create an abscess. I mean who knows the bottle you have next may be a shitty batch or maybe a good one. Money is a factor I know, but their really isn't much of a gap between the two price brackets.
jt
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Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..
But your right. no more bashing.
Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.
What do you mean, I never thought BD was human grade.
jt
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What do you mean, I never thought BD was human grade.
jt
Have to agree here Ive known you since SSB and never heard you say BD was HG!
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The very wise DIVISION has been talking about UG steroid's and how bad they are. If you don't believe him, lets all post some pictures of Abcesses caused by these rotten roids. SSB had some good pictures of members that got abcesses from the junk that was being brewed. Please post, I will look for some in the meantime.
jt
Looks like raw hamburger...... :-X
DIV
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"Corked" usely means haematoma or a very bad bruise(bleeding into tissue).
Ive had corked thighs playing leauge.
exactly...thats why i didnt get it seen to for a while as usually they just go away and can be helped with massage...
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this is a pic of me...the abcess was the result of a corked buttock due to sport. the site was the same site i used every once in a while for site injections.
the pain got worse and worse to the poiint where i couldnt walk and painkillers werent working much. i admitted to hospital with a 41C temp and scepticemia. apparently another 24-48 hours and i wouldve been dead.
they drained the wound and i spent a week in a ward.
the collateral damage was my nervous system and it destroyed nerve endings in my right calf, right pec, right trap, right quad.
that ended my weight training aspirations for good. irreversible damage. If it's worth it to do this stuff- and i was really clean BTW..then go for it.
looking backj i really regret that whole episode in my life.
why you wearing a thong
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well although it may have something to do with UG and HG- ive known alot of guys who've used nothing but UG and never had an issue.
theres several things to consider IMO.
multiple dosage vials are more likely to get contaminated than single use ampules.
orals wont cause abcesses.
other trauma could trigger an event- such as in my case.
you dont need to have an abcess to get an infection.
the more times you inject, the greater the chance you'll run into trouble...probability.
for those wanting to justify it- you're just kidding yourselves. dont get all whiny about the negative aspects of it all. look at it objectively..you can get a nice physique without doing drugs..and you run a zero risk of site abcess.
or you can go for that short term gain and spend your hard earned and not only risk an abcess but also psych and emotional damage by messing with your hormones.
ive suffered from severe depression ever since..maybe it was already there...but ive spent the last 15 years in and out of hospitals trying to find a solution...including ECT.
i cant rule out the gear, sure. BUT, if i hadnt used, it wouldnt be a suspect.
its a choice and to me, in retrospect, it comes with far too many risks that are potential life changers and killers...for what?- temporary muscle gain for narcisisstic purposes?...
if i'd known then what i know now i wouldnt have even tried the stuff.
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why you wearing a thong
because obviously a normal jock wouldnt fit now would it- what with the huge cavity in my butt....did you see the photo?..or were you just looking at the thong?
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disco_stu what kinda of meds are you on for your depression. I am on lexapro 20mg. Anyway I am sorry to hear your story. Please post more on the forum it was a great post.
jt
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jt. ive tried just about everything...
the most recent is cymbalta. i was on lexapro before.
cymbalta works well.
but like i said, i got it bad. i even had to sit the kids down last year to have a chat about the possibility of "ending it all".
it was that bad...during that time we were also in talks with some neurosurgeons about a brain op.
but cymbalta has helped enough to put that stuff on hold- fingers crossed- for now.
thanks for your concern. i wouldnt even post if i was sick right now.
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jt. ive tried just about everything...
the most recent is cymbalta. i was on lexapro before.
cymbalta works well.
but like i said, i got it bad. i even had to sit the kids down last year to have a chat about the possibility of "ending it all".
it was that bad...during that time we were also in talks with some neurosurgeons about a brain op.
but cymbalta has helped enough to put that stuff on hold- fingers crossed- for now.
thanks for your concern. i wouldnt even post if i was sick right now.
that is unfortunate. Thanks for sharing. I never had it that bad like you had. The medication takes all thoughts and stuff away.
jt
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for those wanting to justify it- you're just kidding yourselves. dont get all whiny about the negative aspects of it all. look at it objectively..you can get a nice physique without doing drugs..and you run a zero risk of site abcess.
or you can go for that short term gain and spend your hard earned and not only risk an abcess but also psych and emotional damage by messing with your hormones.
ive suffered from severe depression ever since..maybe it was already there...but ive spent the last 15 years in and out of hospitals trying to find a solution...including ECT.
i cant rule out the gear, sure. BUT, if i hadnt used, it wouldnt be a suspect.
its a choice and to me, in retrospect, it comes with far too many risks that are potential life changers and killers...for what?- temporary muscle gain for narcisisstic purposes?...
if i'd known then what i know now i wouldnt have even tried the stuff.
Stuart, are you trying to push some anti-AAS propoganda on a Steroid forum?
Please, if you're not OK with use, go back to the gossip forum with Alex and friends because you don't belong here.
I have never understood why so-called "naturals" waste their time here when their advice or opinions aren't needed or wanted.
Most people who post here are experienced users who use for various reasons and narcism isn't usually at the top of the list.
I use because I like staying on the anabolic side of things, rather than the catabolic.
AAS allow me to push past limits that most guys in the gym only aspire to.....
I'm dissapointed in you Stuart, you used to have credibility.
You used to be someone people listened to.
Now you're just a shadow of your former self with an axe to grind with no one to blame but yourself.
Take some responsibility.
It wasn't the AAS.
It was you, baby Stu. :'(
DIV
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whatever Div.
its that ignorance that gets people in trouble.
im anti AAS becuase ive been there. ther's a reason why AAS are not over the counter.
you are a mod here- take your own medicine and be objective about it.
theres no dodging the fact that you are messing with your hormones and theres a health and risk tradeoff.
theres nothing in this forum that says this section needs to be pro steroids. its a steroid discussion.
all ive done is discussed them, and posted my experience.
if you want to roll the dice then thats up to you.
just like those who post their positive experiences, ive posted my negative ones.
i put on 110lb using gear in low doses over a timeframe of about 6 years.
i started at 72kg as a track runner as i wanted to improve my sprints. i went from 72kg to 80 in the first year, without any gear.
i then went to 86kg over the next year.
i did my first "course"- if you could call it that- as an angry young man..anapolan tabs. i was 83kg when i started and just 2 weeks later was 90kg. alot of water i guess.
i got stronger every session. it was amazing. i ended up as 95kg when the stuff ran out..it was after about 6 weeks of just those orals.
i then broke my arm playing football and ended up at 81kg again. it was devastating to lose all that muscle and strength.
i spent the next year drug free and ended up at 86kg. i spent the college summer using small amounts of deca and test and returned the next year at 104kg.
i then got hold of all kinds of stuff- as i could afford it- and i didnt have much $. So on small doses i made small gains..i stayed between 104 and 106kg for the next 2 years..at around 11-13% bfat. (im 6'1").
then i went off the gear due to no money and again it was devastating.
i graduated my engineering degree and got work and got my hands on some sust, stan and test and as i was getting a little older, the weight just poured on. after a year i was 120kg at 14% bfat.
but it was around then that i'd noticed the effects that the abcess injury had. my right calf wouldnt grow, and other right hand side parts. to date there's speculation about some level of brain damage also- we had brain scans and there were anomalies.
when i stopped i weighed 124kg at 15% bfat, just under 20" arms and an arrogant, aggressive and over confident person who was sick and tired of being hungry and having to eat all the time.
it cost me jobs and career progression and frankly did not impress the people who are important in real life- the employers and the family.
so i figured it was time to concentrate on the things that make money and life worthwhile and havent touched a weight since 2000.
im now 155kg and overweight but still showing the signs of my training days.
ive got a load of "mates" that are hells angels, finks and gypsy jokers and others who are in jail or dealers. i dont care for that lifestyle.
this board needs a balanced approach and im giving you my story. theres no reason to insult me or bag me for that.
my credibility is fully in tact. the nice thing about going off the gear is that i am no longer under the influence of grandiosity and also dont question my thoughts and actions.
i might suffer from depression but im not crazy, have a professional job and get paid very well. i can look back and see the mistakes ive made and have learnt from them.
i still keep in touch with some of my mates who refused to use gear- they are still training today and look fantastic, weigh well over 100kg and got there in the end. they also didnt suffer like i did.
food for thought.
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Stuart, are you trying to push some anti-AAS propoganda on a Steroid forum?
BTW propaganda is about selective reporting to achieve a desired outcome through a directed message.
if anyone's guilty of that it's those who dont post all aspects.
a mate of mine used heavy amounts of gear for years on end. at one point his back oozed and bled due to the "cheese like scarring" the acne inflicted and he had to carry a towel with him at the gym to wipe off the crap that he was leaving around the place. no one dared approach him as he was the angel's president's best mate.
ive got alot more stories alot worse than this.
the common factor was gear.
in fact i have more negative stories than positive..all fact. the only positives are that each guy got big and strong.
no use being all perty in jail is it?
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Most people who post here are experienced users who use for various reasons and narcism isn't usually at the top of the list.
you are in fairy land Div.
why would anyone use other than under doctor's supervision?
if it isnt ego or psychologically related?
please educate me to your wisdom.
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BTW propaganda is about selective reporting to achieve a desired outcome through a directed message.
if anyone's guilty of that it's those who dont post all aspects.
a mate of mine used heavy amounts of gear for years on end. at one point his back oozed and bled due to the "cheese like scarring" the acne inflicted and he had to carry a towel with him at the gym to wipe off the crap that he was leaving around the place. no one dared approach him as he was the angel's president's best mate.
ive got alot more stories alot worse than this.
the common factor was gear.
in fact i have more negative stories than positive..all fact. the only positives are that each guy got big and strong.
no use being all perty in jail is it?
wow that acne must have been bad :-\
Thank you for putting up an honest self report Stu about your life journey. Although it turned out for the better, it is too bad you had to go through those difficult times.
jt
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thanks JT. thankyou for being open minded.
im merely posting what my experience was. people can take it or leave it.
some people i know never had any problems- ever. But they did have a certain "attitude" let me put it that way.
physical symptom wise they didnt exhibit anything. i can only think of a very small number though- less than 10%.
the other 90% ranged from complete nut cases and side effect freak shows to timebombs- many have since exploded.
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wow that acne must have been bad :-\
Thank you for putting up an honest self report Stu about your life journey. Although it turned out for the better, it is too bad you had to go through those difficult times.
jt
oh yeah it was. his back was, and still is, like the moon/mars. what's more is he wasnt the only one going around like that. i can think of a couple of other guys who had it bad, but not as bad as that.
from what i understand, the body reacts to the gear (in some people) in this way. eventually the acne stopped, but the scarring is there forever. he was on large amounts of gear for years on end.
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oh yeah it was. his back was, and still is, like the moon/mars. what's more is he wasnt the only one going around like that. i can think of a couple of other guys who had it bad, but not as bad as that.
from what i understand, the body reacts to the gear (in some people) in this way. eventually the acne stopped, but the scarring is there forever. he was on large amounts of gear for years on end.
hmm, and he didn't goto a doctor, that is too bad, I would hate to have scarring like that. Thankfully I am on meds to keep it under control.
What kind of dosages did you run when you were on stu?
jt
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hey jt, the most i ever took was 4ml of test at a time. everything else was 1-2ml due to the cost.
the best gains i made- without question was on sustanon, 1ml per fortnight then 1 ml per week...oh, barring the anapolan that is.
i felt that the sust also had the mildest come down as well as it acts for 10 weeks +...so the off period wasnt as dramatic.
deca did very little for me, and test cyp was the pick of the tests other than the sust.
i would suggest that anyone looking for that boost should just get some sust and do 1ml/fortnight for 12 weeks, twice per year- with as much time off in between as possible.
you could go to 2 ml/wk but IMO the receptors get saturated too quickly and you end up with exogen test in your system and your own shutting down.
oh, did i mention that i started to lactate also?...forgot about that.
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i would suggest that anyone looking for that boost should just get some sust and do 1ml/fortnight for 12 weeks, twice per year- with as much time off in between as possible.
you could go to 2 ml/wk but IMO the receptors get saturated too quickly and you end up with exogen test in your system and your own shutting down.
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? dude, NO
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Fuuuck, If I get on im buying TONS if needles.
I know duded that use the same for sucking the oil in and then just inject.
Im gonna show them these photos lol.
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? dude, NO
you wouldnt even know what works mate as you have so much shit in your system.
im providing an alternative to filling yourself full of gear which is expensive and inefficient.
and risky.
ive never seen the purpose of taking drugs to counter the effects of drugs...to me thats just plain stupid.
you can get by with low doses and realistic targets and be happy. no need to be a pin cushion.
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But Stu, what you are suggesting is taking around 125mg a week basically right? A fortnight is every 2 weeks. So only 1ml of sustanon every 2 weeks? That has to be a roller coaster on your blood levels.
jt
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not really as the shortest acting test in the sust takes more than a week to get out anyways. then theres the other longer acting ones.
all im saying is that i made good gains on low levels of gear and there wasnt the huge drop off when i came off them. i still had to train hard and eat right and so on.
i had mates that used lots of gear and they got huge but i would rate their training as lazy and they didnt come off the gear for years on end and if they went off it was due to illness or something and they just refused to train.
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not really as the shortest acting test in the sust takes more than a week to get out anyways. then theres the other longer acting ones.
all im saying is that i made good gains on low levels of gear and there wasnt the huge drop off when i came off them. i still had to train hard and eat right and so on.
i had mates that used lots of gear and they got huge but i would rate their training as lazy and they didnt come off the gear for years on end and if they went off it was due to illness or something and they just refused to train.
Cool stu, yeah I would think you would have to train very hard to get results from that, but with your picture that had the drain in and your muscle butt, it looks like you did build quite a amount of mass on that.
What does I'm a llama mean in your avatar lol?
jt
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whatever Div.
its that ignorance that gets people in trouble.
im anti AAS becuase ive been there. ther's a reason why AAS are not over the counter.
you are a mod here- take your own medicine and be objective about it.
theres no dodging the fact that you are messing with your hormones and theres a health and risk tradeoff.
theres nothing in this forum that says this section needs to be pro steroids. its a steroid discussion.
all ive done is discussed them, and posted my experience.
if you want to roll the dice then thats up to you.
just like those who post their positive experiences, ive posted my negative ones.
i put on 110lb using gear in low doses over a timeframe of about 6 years.
i started at 72kg as a track runner as i wanted to improve my sprints. i went from 72kg to 80 in the first year, without any gear.
i then went to 86kg over the next year.
i did my first "course"- if you could call it that- as an angry young man..anapolan tabs. i was 83kg when i started and just 2 weeks later was 90kg. alot of water i guess.
i got stronger every session. it was amazing. i ended up as 95kg when the stuff ran out..it was after about 6 weeks of just those orals.
i then broke my arm playing football and ended up at 81kg again. it was devastating to lose all that muscle and strength.
i spent the next year drug free and ended up at 86kg. i spent the college summer using small amounts of deca and test and returned the next year at 104kg.
i then got hold of all kinds of stuff- as i could afford it- and i didnt have much $. So on small doses i made small gains..i stayed between 104 and 106kg for the next 2 years..at around 11-13% bfat. (im 6'1").
then i went off the gear due to no money and again it was devastating.
i graduated my engineering degree and got work and got my hands on some sust, stan and test and as i was getting a little older, the weight just poured on. after a year i was 120kg at 14% bfat.
but it was around then that i'd noticed the effects that the abcess injury had. my right calf wouldnt grow, and other right hand side parts. to date there's speculation about some level of brain damage also- we had brain scans and there were anomalies.
when i stopped i weighed 124kg at 15% bfat, just under 20" arms and an arrogant, aggressive and over confident person who was sick and tired of being hungry and having to eat all the time.
it cost me jobs and career progression and frankly did not impress the people who are important in real life- the employers and the family.
so i figured it was time to concentrate on the things that make money and life worthwhile and havent touched a weight since 2000.
im now 155kg and overweight but still showing the signs of my training days.
ive got a load of "mates" that are hells angels, finks and gypsy jokers and others who are in jail or dealers. i dont care for that lifestyle.
this board needs a balanced approach and im giving you my story. theres no reason to insult me or bag me for that.
my credibility is fully in tact. the nice thing about going off the gear is that i am no longer under the influence of grandiosity and also dont question my thoughts and actions.
i might suffer from depression but im not crazy, have a professional job and get paid very well. i can look back and see the mistakes ive made and have learnt from them.
i still keep in touch with some of my mates who refused to use gear- they are still training today and look fantastic, weigh well over 100kg and got there in the end. they also didnt suffer like i did.
food for thought.
I'm not trying to be a dick but it's not the fault of steroids that you lost jobs & other professional contacts & such. It's your fault...you made the choice to use & continue to use.
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Well he was I think predisposed to depression and roids can make it worse, so partly it was the steroids fault. Depression is not something to mess around with, and I feel sorry that it caused him those problems. The fact is roids are not all good and not all bad.
jt
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Fuuuck, If I get on im buying TONS if needles.
I know duded that use the same for sucking the oil in and then just inject.
Im gonna show them these photos lol.
ive always used a green for sucking and a blue for sticking..... no point takin any risks that way
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The very wise DIVISION has been talking about UG steroid's and how bad they are. If you don't believe him, lets all post some pictures of Abcesses caused by these rotten roids. SSB had some good pictures of members that got abcesses from the junk that was being brewed. Please post, I will look for some in the meantime.
jt
This is also caused by the careless use of needles. People need to make sure they use alcohol swabs before they inject and after the injection is complete.
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I find alcohol swabs make the injection to sting when I inject, i just inject clean area usually not always after I shower with clean needle.
jt
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I find alcohol swabs make the injection to sting when I inject, i just inject clean area usually not always after I shower with clean needle.
jt
You need to let the alcohol dry completely before injecting. The area swabbed by the alcohol is not sterile until the alcohol evaporates.
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Ok, but I just find it not useful if I am already clean and injecting with a fresh needle.
jt
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all it takes is one small bacteria to become infected with mrsa staph. Thrus me you dont want that, and 1 out of three carry it on their bodies. Use the alcohol bro. You would never go to the doc and get a shot with out them swabbing you down with alcohol.
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What do you mean? So 1 out of 3 people in the world have the mrsa bacteria and if injected over that area it can get into you? Maybe I don't have it cause I have been doing this for about a year or so.
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yes 1 out of 3. I also read it might be less 1 out of 5 people carry the virus naturally on their bodies.
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I find alcohol swabs make the injection to sting when I inject, i just inject clean area usually not always after I shower with clean needle.
jt
Iv never had that problem , but it would be foolish not to wipe the area with alc swab , even after showering , just not worth the risk of it getting infected ..it can ruin your training and cycle.
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Well he was I think predisposed to depression and roids can make it worse, so partly it was the steroids fault. Depression is not something to mess around with, and I feel sorry that it caused him those problems. The fact is roids are not all good and not all bad.
jt
well put JT.
and for the majority it isnt an issue as they dont have this burning ambition to "use"...so its a no brainer..they just dont use.
for those who really want to try it out- go in fortified with a clear understanding of the chances and consequences.
i am in no way blaming gear - but i also have no way of eliminating it- and it is indicated enough to be a strong candidate for interaction at least.
what i do know is that my mental state is much better since being off. when i say better, i mean more rational and stable. whilst i was on, i was happy, active and up beat. But what goes up must come down, right? theres also probably some level of delusion involved.
and so on.
thats why i advocate a low dose approach, if any HAS to be used at all.
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whatever Div.
its that ignorance that gets people in trouble.
im anti AAS becuase ive been there. ther's a reason why AAS are not over the counter.
you are a mod here- take your own medicine and be objective about it.
theres no dodging the fact that you are messing with your hormones and theres a health and risk tradeoff.
theres nothing in this forum that says this section needs to be pro steroids. its a steroid discussion.
all ive done is discussed them, and posted my experience.
if you want to roll the dice then thats up to you.
just like those who post their positive experiences, ive posted my negative ones.
i put on 110lb using gear in low doses over a timeframe of about 6 years.
i started at 72kg as a track runner as i wanted to improve my sprints. i went from 72kg to 80 in the first year, without any gear.
i then went to 86kg over the next year.
i did my first "course"- if you could call it that- as an angry young man..anapolan tabs. i was 83kg when i started and just 2 weeks later was 90kg. alot of water i guess.
i got stronger every session. it was amazing. i ended up as 95kg when the stuff ran out..it was after about 6 weeks of just those orals.
i then broke my arm playing football and ended up at 81kg again. it was devastating to lose all that muscle and strength.
i spent the next year drug free and ended up at 86kg. i spent the college summer using small amounts of deca and test and returned the next year at 104kg.
i then got hold of all kinds of stuff- as i could afford it- and i didnt have much $. So on small doses i made small gains..i stayed between 104 and 106kg for the next 2 years..at around 11-13% bfat. (im 6'1").
then i went off the gear due to no money and again it was devastating.
i graduated my engineering degree and got work and got my hands on some sust, stan and test and as i was getting a little older, the weight just poured on. after a year i was 120kg at 14% bfat.
but it was around then that i'd noticed the effects that the abcess injury had. my right calf wouldnt grow, and other right hand side parts. to date there's speculation about some level of brain damage also- we had brain scans and there were anomalies.
when i stopped i weighed 124kg at 15% bfat, just under 20" arms and an arrogant, aggressive and over confident person who was sick and tired of being hungry and having to eat all the time.
it cost me jobs and career progression and frankly did not impress the people who are important in real life- the employers and the family.
so i figured it was time to concentrate on the things that make money and life worthwhile and havent touched a weight since 2000.
im now 155kg and overweight but still showing the signs of my training days.
ive got a load of "mates" that are hells angels, finks and gypsy jokers and others who are in jail or dealers. i dont care for that lifestyle.
this board needs a balanced approach and im giving you my story. theres no reason to insult me or bag me for that.
my credibility is fully in tact. the nice thing about going off the gear is that i am no longer under the influence of grandiosity and also dont question my thoughts and actions.
i might suffer from depression but im not crazy, have a professional job and get paid very well. i can look back and see the mistakes ive made and have learnt from them.
i still keep in touch with some of my mates who refused to use gear- they are still training today and look fantastic, weigh well over 100kg and got there in the end. they also didnt suffer like i did.
food for thought.
Are we still arguing this?
Look, I've been in this for a long time and can only talk about my experience.
You might have some other "issues" that haven't been covered here and I'm not saying your experience isn't valid.
I just don't agree.
DIV
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no we're not still arguing this. i think you picked up a quote from another post.
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omfg guys.
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omfg guys.
get out of my thread crook.
jt
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get out of my thread crook.
jt
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its rawdawgs/zeek/sprinkfsu new account, he scammed 93civic, made another account already and is trying to get his post count up with useless posts.
jt
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its rawdawgs/zeek/sprinkfsu new account, he scammed 93civic, made another account already and is trying to get his post count up with useless posts.
jt
He is a scammer ? >:( Ban the fuka.. >:( >:(
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He is a scammer ? >:( Ban the fuka.. >:( >:(
Banning is too good. Fucker needs a bullet to the head. Worthless piece of shit.
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He is a scammer ? >:( Ban the fuka.. >:( >:(
Yes, he has scammed many ppl on this forum, each time changing his name. Always has you send money to Florida, usually GreenDot money card so you don't have an address of where he lives.
jt
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Yes, he has scammed many ppl on this forum, each time changing his name. Always has you send money to Florida, usually GreenDot money card so you don't have an address of where he lives.
jt
That doesn't make sense since greendot refill cards don't require a location.
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Banning is too good. Fucker needs a bullet to the head. Worthless piece of shit.
x2 Sneeky underhanded cok loving shit bag.. >:(
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Yes, he has scammed many ppl on this forum, each time changing his name. Always has you send money to Florida, usually GreenDot money card so you don't have an address of where he lives.
jt
Im not sure how green dot works mate not being in the states , but he sounds a worthless shit bag .
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I forget exactly how he does it, but he does say he lives in Florida, he has a way about he goes scamming you, anyhow he does use Greendot cards.
jt