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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2008, 07:57:44 PM »
ewww i dont wanna do a cycle now if this is what could happen :-X
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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2008, 07:59:40 PM »
ewww i dont wanna do a cycle now if this is what could happen :-X

Gene all will be ok if you use Pharmacy grade steroids.

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2008, 08:25:35 PM »
has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot of UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.

you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.

So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.

Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2008, 08:27:32 PM »
has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot og UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.

you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.

So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.

Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2008, 08:27:39 PM »
has nothing to do with UG or pharm grade,There are alot og UG gear out there that alot of guys on here have used andeverything is great just as well with the pharm grade.

you can use any gear and be stupid and get a abcess.

So please dont sit on here putting countless post up so you can get your post counts up.. on info you know nothing about.

Again it dont matter what gear your using it can happen no matter what.

you can't be serious?  UG is so up and down and all around in quality it is laughable.  They are accountable to no one.  Pharmacy companies on the other hand are held to strict standards and if they produce shit they will lose their license to produce drugs and be put out of business, so whose product would you choose first?

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2008, 08:29:49 PM »
This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2008, 08:37:56 PM »
you can't be serious?  UG is so up and down and all around in quality it is laughable.  They are accountable to no one.  Pharmacy companies on the other hand are held to strict standards and if they produce shit they will lose their license to produce drugs and be put out of business, so whose product would you choose first?

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You can still have problems with HG though , anytime you jab a needle into yourself you are taking the risk..even with precautions

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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2008, 12:19:32 AM »
You can still have problems with HG though , anytime you jab a needle into yourself you are taking the risk..even with precautions

Exactly, it has little to do with the compounds, unless they are just outright shit, and more to do with sterility.  It amazes me how so many guys aren't sterile with their stuff.  A lot of guys I know used to not even wipe the vial tops down before drawing.

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2008, 05:45:42 AM »
I had a good friend that suffered the same results in the glute. He was out of commission for four weeks as he was packed with cleaners in the wound every day. I asked what he did wrong and he stated he laid the loaded syringe down on his sink before shooting. One should always be hospital clean in the enviroment your going to pin in. Keep all surfaces clean and dust-free. Always wipe you tops down with rubbing alcohol and clean the pining area as well. Good times......   

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2008, 07:25:27 AM »
   Why is it there are always people with a hidden agenda pushing their views?  Why do people care so

much that others use ug labs?  If you choose to use hg than great for you.  I don't need to read

everyday the fucking preachers on here trying to talk everyone out of using reputable ug labs.  It's never

gonna happen folks! The fact of the matter is that more people use ug labs than hg and that will always

be true.  If you want to play scare tactics than I also suggest nobody ever get in a car or get on plane

ever again because way more people die and get injured driving and flying every year than getting a

fucking abscess from ug gear!!

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2008, 08:18:08 AM »
so true.... Ask the kid that started this thread every post he has is un usefull. he just wants thread counts and has no fucking clue what he is talking about.


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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2008, 08:36:12 AM »
JT is somewhat correct. Go look an Bill W's site and look at all of the abscess contaminating UG gear he has posted labs on. What JT is saying is, is its more probable to get an abscess with UG than HG. Some labs are sterile clean, but not all. Just be careful with what you put in your body. I think the ball busting should stop, as JT is just looking out for peoples best interests. I don't think he really truly cares if you stuff yourself with HG or UG. I think he's just looking out.

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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2008, 08:53:29 AM »
Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..

But your right. no more bashing.

Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.

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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2008, 09:19:48 AM »
This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?

maybe when bd first came out everyone liked it...there injects turned to shit...a lot of their shit was mislabeled and wasnt the compound it said it was...

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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2008, 09:59:03 AM »
Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..

But your right. no more bashing.

Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.


Of course you can, but how often does that happen? JT is talking about UG's that put out dirty gear. I have heard over and over again about people getting abscesses from IP's gear. Dirty gear with high bacteria count is what usually causes the abscess. This is not the case with HG gear. There are definitely good UG's out there, but you need to be careful. UG's that use shitty powders, have high heavy metal content, and high bacteria counts. The moral of this post is just be careful what you put in your body. Know your source.

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2008, 11:13:15 AM »
all the abcesses ive witnessed 1st hand ( 3 local competitors ) have been a result of injecting winny,ive never came across one with anything else.

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2008, 11:23:49 AM »
all the abcesses ive witnessed 1st hand ( 3 local competitors ) have been a result of injecting winny,ive never came across one with anything else.

Water based gear seems to grow bacteria easier than oils.

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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2008, 12:08:08 PM »
This is whats funny BD is or was UG and look at there gear everyone loved it and now whats your point bro?

I sure didn't love it.  Stuff was terrible of course depending which batch you got, that is because of shitty quality control.



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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2008, 12:11:15 PM »
JT is somewhat correct. Go look an Bill W's site and look at all of the abscess contaminating UG gear he has posted labs on. What JT is saying is, is its more probable to get an abscess with UG than HG. Some labs are sterile clean, but not all. Just be careful with what you put in your body. I think the ball busting should stop, as JT is just looking out for peoples best interests. I don't think he really truly cares if you stuff yourself with HG or UG. I think he's just looking out.

thx 4th.  Yeah I don't sell the shit, I could care less.  The point is, I just don't get is why someone would put a questionable product into them and not know weather it will cripple them from workouts that week or create an abscess.  I mean who knows the bottle you have next may be a shitty batch or maybe a good one.  Money is a factor I know, but their really isn't much of a gap between the two price brackets.

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2008, 12:12:37 PM »
Well I disagree thats my opinion. There may be some UG's out there that may not be sterile but what he was saying is all UG suck. when he didnt even know BD was a UG..

But your right. no more bashing.

Again it doesnt even have to do with UG or pharm gear you can get a abcess from a flu shot or any kind of a shot.


What do you mean, I never thought BD was human grade.

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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2008, 12:38:43 PM »
What do you mean, I never thought BD was human grade.

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Have to agree here Ive known you since SSB and never heard you say BD was HG!

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Re: Steroid Abcesses
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2008, 12:51:02 PM »
The very wise DIVISION has been talking about UG steroid's and how bad they are.  If you don't believe him, lets all post some pictures of Abcesses caused by these rotten roids.  SSB had some good pictures of members that got abcesses from the junk that was being brewed.  Please post, I will look for some in the meantime.

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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2008, 04:54:20 PM »
"Corked" usely means haematoma or a very bad bruise(bleeding into tissue).
Ive had corked thighs playing leauge.

exactly...thats why i didnt get it seen to for a while as usually they just go away and can be helped with massage...

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« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 08:53:58 PM »
this is a pic of me...the abcess was the result of a corked buttock due to sport. the site was the same site i used every once in a while for site injections.

the pain got worse and worse to the poiint where i couldnt walk and painkillers werent working much. i admitted to hospital with a 41C temp and scepticemia. apparently another 24-48 hours and i wouldve been dead.

they drained the wound and i spent a week in a ward.

the collateral damage was my nervous system and it destroyed nerve endings in my right calf, right pec, right trap, right quad.

that ended my weight training aspirations for good. irreversible damage. If it's worth it to do this stuff- and i was really clean BTW..then go for it.

looking backj i really regret that whole episode in my life.




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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 08:58:06 PM »
well although it may have something to do with UG and HG- ive known alot of guys who've used nothing but UG and never had an issue.

theres several things to consider IMO.

multiple dosage vials are more likely to get contaminated than single use ampules.

orals wont cause abcesses.

other trauma could trigger an event- such as in my case.

you dont need to have an abcess to get an infection.

the more times you inject, the greater the chance you'll run into trouble...probability.



for those wanting to justify it- you're just kidding yourselves. dont get all whiny about the negative aspects of it all. look at it objectively..you can get a nice physique without doing drugs..and you run a zero risk of site abcess.

or you can go for that short term gain and spend your hard earned and not only risk an abcess but also psych and emotional damage by messing with your hormones.

ive suffered from severe depression ever since..maybe it was already there...but ive spent the last 15 years in and out of hospitals trying to find a solution...including ECT.

i cant rule out the gear, sure. BUT, if i hadnt used, it wouldnt be a suspect.

its a choice and to me, in retrospect, it comes with far too many risks that are potential life changers and killers...for what?- temporary muscle gain for narcisisstic purposes?...

if i'd known then what i know now i wouldnt have even tried the stuff.