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Rampage begins at about 3minutes and 30 seconds in...Dana and Wanderlei join in on the fun.
Enjoy! ;D
Rampage: "FLEX...you get to see men in their drawers"
Dana's UFC 92 Video Blog - 12/23/08
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HEhehe that was funny ;D
Rampage is a cool dude man.
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It's not just fighters that mock bodybuilders. It's also... well, everybody else.
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hahahaa brutal truth
Rampage : "maybe some of those guys are tough?" :D
the sad thing is, rampage can talk this shit in front of a whole group of ifbb pros and they would'nt be able to do shit hahahahahahha
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HAHAHAHA!
Why am I not surprised? ::)
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Funny how the guy in the green jacket laughs at the mag, yet tucks it under his arm to go read it later. Doh!
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Funny how the guy in the green jacket laughs at the mag, yet tucks it under his arm to go read it later. Doh!
Are you suggesting that Wanderlei "the axe murderer" SIlva is a homosexual?
I'll tell u one thing; i wouldn't mess with a guy like Silva. That guy looks like a cool dude, but when you piss him of he'll get the deadstare in him. That's a signal that tells you that you have to run like hell.
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Yep - Silva is a CRAZY guy!
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This cat Silva is a baaad mutha -- "shut your mouth!"
Remember the vid from this thread?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=249098.0
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Fighting is gay. LOL at trying to stomp a guys face in. I'll take muscled up oiled dudes in thongs ;D
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to me it seemed like it was all in good fun,rampage makes a joke out of everything.bodybuilders prolly make fun of 2 guys in a cage pounding each others skulls in.most of them ufc lift weights,they just dont do it for cosmetic purposes but more for functional purposes,they do tons of plyometrics also
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we all laugh on these oiled up penispuffers. especially on that tiny tit dexter jackson.
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LOL at fighting ;D
PUSSIES!!!
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PS- Wand is going to wreck shit in the UFC.
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to me it seemed like it was all in good fun,rampage makes a joke out of everything.bodybuilders prolly make fun of 2 guys in a cage pounding each others skulls in.most of them ufc lift weights,they just dont do it for cosmetic purposes but more for functional purposes,they do tons of plyometrics also
Coach wasted his time training Rampage.
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that was mike morris
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to me it seemed like it was all in good fun,rampage makes a joke out of everything.bodybuilders prolly make fun of 2 guys in a cage pounding each others skulls in.most of them ufc lift weights,they just dont do it for cosmetic purposes but more for functional purposes,they do tons of plyometrics also
hahahahhahahah brutal
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i wonder how long cutler or ronnie would last doing wandy,s workout in that video?id say 60 seconds tops,no disrespect to jay or ron but its just the reality of it all.on the flip side wandy prolly couldnt lift what jay or ronnie warm up with.ron or jay would smoke wandy in a bodybuilding show cause thats thier thing.i guess it all comes down to what your goals are,to be a mountain of muscle bodybuilder or a ultimate fighter who competes in a combat sport.i love both bodybuilding and the ufc,but if i had a choice of being a ufc star like wandy,randy,brock,bj penn ect,or being like ronnie or jay id have to go with the ufc lifestyle.it must be awesome going to the beach lookin like ron or jay and all but the health risks with all the drug use is the thing that turns me off.im no angel,ive done my share of cycles but it just plain sucks for me to keep sticking myself everyother day and praying you dont have any adverse effects when your older.then again ufc guys are putting thier health on the line evertime they enter that cage,when you got a guy like lesnar whos 265 lbs trying to rip your head off id say there a chance you could get a scrape or bump,lol.any combat sport has its potential for a fatality or someone getting paralyzed,football,hockey and even baseball could cause a fatality,a broken neck,a batter hitting a ball off the pitchers head could spell disaster,member the hockey game where the golie got his throat slit by a player for the other team,i think the players stick accidently went across his throat,im not 100% sure.they all have risks
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
You have no idea what you're talking about.
A lot of fighters have been training since they were little kids in specific martial arts and they can make a lot of $$$ by competing in MMA.
For instance Antonio Nogueira who is the UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion trained and competed in Jiu Jitsu where he became one of the best grapplers in the world. He made the transition to MMA where his life long jiu jitsu training made him a dangerous submission artist.
Nogueira competing in pure jiu jitsu
Nogueira dominating MMA utilizing jiu jitsu
A mini-documentary on Nogueira's training/MMA career.
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
Not everbody has the balls to make it in bodybuilding.
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Not everbody has the balls to make it in bodybuilding.
Bodybuilding isn't a sport, much less something that can leave you looking like this...
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haha, lolz had by all at the expense of bodybuilders
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hahahaa brutal truth
Rampage : "maybe some of those guys are tough?" :D
the sad thing is, rampage can talk this shit in front of a whole group of ifbb pros and they would'nt be able to do shit hahahahahahha
truth right there ;D
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Rampage begins at about 3minutes and 30 seconds in...Dana and Wanderlei join in on the fun.
Enjoy! ;D
Rampage: "FLEX...you get to see men in their drawers"
Dana's UFC 92 Video Blog - 12/23/08
rashad evans showed up in a suit......trying to bring class to the UFC?
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
a 170pound tit like bj penn can easily murder any bodybuilder no matter how big they are, epic cosmetic muscles
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rashad evans showed up in a suit......trying to bring class to the UFC?
GSP always wears a suit =)
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, dude what the fucck are you smoking, yes UFC fighters are failed bodybuilders that's why there's MILLIONS of dollars in UFC as opposed to a fuccking 10-15K prize for 1st place at most pro bodybuilding shows.
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hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, dude what the fucck are you smoking, yes UFC fighters are failed bodybuilders that's why there's MILLIONS of dollars in UFC as opposed to a fuccking 10-15K prize for 1st place at most pro bodybuilding shows.
lets not forget the 1k best poser awards
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lets not forget the 1k best poser awards
sounds like BigJ needs to put down the pipe, he even claimed in another post that i saw of his that he was 230 pounds "lean". ::)
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Bodybuilding isn't a sport, much less something that can leave you looking like this...
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If that guy was a bit tougher, he maybe, and I mean maaaaybe, could have made it to the state level in bodybuilding. But he had to pussy out and take the easy way.
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If that guy was a bit tougher, he maybe, and I mean maaaaybe, could have made it to the state level in bodybuilding. But he had to pussy out and take the easy way.
Sakuraba was the gracie terminator.
Then Wanderley silva show up.
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Coach wasted his time training Rampage.
We don't start until after the fight because he's been in England most of the time. I train the rest of his team.
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We don't start until after the fight because he's been in England most of the time. I train the rest of his team.
Rampage just hasn't been the same since he joined "The Coaches" camp, perhaps he should give Milos a call next, I mean it can't get much worse than this.
One guy runs into cars, and goes crazy in hotel rooms, while the guy training him believes the world is only 6,000 years old and the average high school football player runs a 4.6 forty.
It's like the blind leading the blind...
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Rampage just hasn't been the same since he joined "The Coaches" camp, perhaps he should give Milos a call next, I mean it can't get much worse than this.
One guy runs into cars, and goes crazy in hotel rooms, while the guy training him believes the world is only 6,000 years old and the average high school football player runs a 4.6 forty.
It's like the blind leading the blind...
Fail.......
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Just about everyone makes fun of huge pro bb on magazine...
what its interesting though is that if u take a ripped 170 dude on a cover of men's health guys will go like "thats a great achievement right there" and girl will find them "hot"
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
What a pure idiot. How many young boys want to grow up wearing a thong, oiling their bodies and flexing their muscle for schmoes? I think most every man (obviously you being an exception) once yearned to be a true bad ass.
Bodybuilders are far more likely to be failed athletes than the other way around.
FAIL!
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Kamali could kick all of those UFC guys' asses.
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these skinny-fat douchebags would not say a one tiny disrespectful remark to any ifbb pro's face.. even little david henry would scare these duface, so-called 'fighters' into silence
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these skinny-fat douchebags would not say a one tiny disrespectful remark to any ifbb pro's face.. even little david henry would scare these duface, so-called 'fighters' into silence
haha!
Yeah right, I like you kid but are way off on this one
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Are you suggesting that Wanderlei "the axe murderer" SIlva is a homosexual?
I'll tell u one thing; i wouldn't mess with a guy like Silva. That guy looks like a cool dude, but when you piss him of he'll get the deadstare in him. That's a signal that tells you that you have to run like hell.
just because he can fight dosen't mean he would not take a dick into his shithole. :-X
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these skinny-fat douchebags would not say a one tiny disrespectful remark to any ifbb pro's face.. even little david henry would scare these duface, so-called 'fighters' into silence
Tell me who you think would win in this fight?
Both are 40+ years old.
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these skinny-fat douchebags would not say a one tiny disrespectful remark to any ifbb pro's face.. even little david henry would scare these duface, so-called 'fighters' into silence
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haha!
Yeah right, I like you kid but are way off on this one
not the best sarcasm sense HUH?
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not the best sarcasm sense HUH?
Oh brother, Swede! tryin to single me out after two other guys also called out Tbombz for his dumbass comment.
Next time don't make it so obvious that you got an axe to grind.
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if the bb can protect their head then i wouldnt be surprised to see the bb ko a ufc guy.
the problem with this thread is that all you are comparing people from different weight classes.
i.e. penn and rampage etc against a would be 300lb muscular behemoth.
triangles, kimoras, rear nakeds and even guards would be very difficult to hold or even get against a 300lb BB who does 500lb+ benches. theyd break every attempt.
if you compare the heavyweight class then you're at least getting in the ballpark. some of those ufcers would press a mean bench and some are pretty large too.
on the other hand if you gave some of the pro BBs say, 6 months to get their cardio up and get some striking and defence tuteledge then you're comparing an all round lifting machine with an ability to have some stamina and some defence and attack.
its not just upper body strength in fight sports either...a punch is delivered from the feet upwards..so its the cumulative strength combined that goes into the fist.
you get a bb with a good chin or some boxing skills and personally i think you'd have someone who is very dangerous in the octagon.
the problem would be that bb'ers are there, in the first place because they want to be a thing of beauty, or have some ego that needs to be fed. that psychii doesnt lend itself well to teh prospect of being made more ugly or perhaps being defeated.
so the argument's probably moot for those 2 reasons alone.
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if the bb can protect their head then i wouldnt be surprised to see the bb ko a ufc guy.
the problem with this thread is that all you are comparing people from different weight classes.
i.e. penn and rampage etc against a would be 300lb muscular behemoth.
triangles, kimoras, rear nakeds and even guards would be very difficult to hold or even get against a 300lb BB who does 500lb+ benches. theyd break every attempt.
if you compare the heavyweight class then you're at least getting in the ballpark. some of those ufcers would press a mean bench and some are pretty large too.
on the other hand if you gave some of the pro BBs say, 6 months to get their cardio up and get some striking and defence tuteledge then you're comparing an all round lifting machine with an ability to have some stamina and some defence and attack.
its not just upper body strength in fight sports either...a punch is delivered from the feet upwards..so its the cumulative strength combined that goes into the fist.
you get a bb with a good chin or some boxing skills and personally i think you'd have someone who is very dangerous in the octagon.
the problem would be that bb'ers are there, in the first place because they want to be a thing of beauty, or have some ego that needs to be fed. that psychii doesnt lend itself well to teh prospect of being made more ugly or perhaps being defeated.
so the argument's probably moot for those 2 reasons alone.
hahahaa, another keyboard fighting expert. ::)
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you get a bb with a good chin or some boxing skills and personally i think you'd have someone who is very dangerous in the octagon.
Like this guy?
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ok i david henry would gt beta up by the better ufc guys...however big bodybuilders, eespecialy like coleman... coleman would fuck hat little asian dudes shit up. are you forgetting the huge dramatic difference between their size and strength
you MUST be a little guy yourself, to think a guy who is so dramatically over powered could win on 'skill' ::) alone
ill tell you what 'skill' in fighting is, and hey, i dont even get in many fights at all..these are raked in order of most importance
1. ability to take a powerful hit
2. ability to lay a powerful hit
BOOOOOMMMMMM
thats it
andi will gurantee you that ronnie coleman is gonna hit you a hell of alot harder than any little bitch ufc punk is going to. and i will also garantee you that you could punch ronnie as hard as you could in the noggin and its just gonna make him more angry.
little ufc guys stand no chance to a mass monster like ronnie
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ok i david henry would gt beta up by the better ufc guys...however big bodybuilders, eespecialy like coleman... coleman would fuck hat little asian dudes shit up. are you forgetting the huge dramatic difference between their size and strength
you MUST be a little guy yourself, to think a guy who is so dramatically over powered could win on 'skill' ::) alone
ill tell you what 'skill' in fighting is, and hey, i dont even get in many fights at all..these are raked in order of most importance
1. ability to take a powerful hit
2. ability to lay a powerful hit
BOOOOOMMMMMM
thats it
andi will gurantee you that ronnie coleman is gonna hit you a hell of alot harder than any little bitch ufc punk is going to. and i will also garantee you that you could punch ronnie as hard as you could in the noggin and its just gonna make him more angry.
little ufc guys stand no chance to a mass monster like ronnie
actually i agree here.
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actually i agree here.
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and lets not even begin to compare these ufc guys to worlds strongest man competitiors. like pudganowski and magus samuelson and the american kid from arizona
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:D Last time I checked UFC is a bunch of guys rolling around with their nuts in each others faces while they are hugging ! And at the end of the day they had the mags there ! 8)
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hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, dude what the fucck are you smoking, yes UFC fighters are failed bodybuilders that's why there's MILLIONS of dollars in UFC as opposed to a fuccking 10-15K prize for 1st place at most pro bodybuilding shows.
Epic failure to understand sarcasm! lol
Do you have learning difficulties?
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I love how all these bodybuilder worshippers always set up the scenario where the massive 300+ bodybuilder fights the "little asian dude"/featherweight/sub 120 lb cage fighter.
You set up ANY top MMA guy who weighs over 185 in a parking lot with ANY large bodybuilder and he will have him knocked out/begging for mercy in 30 seconds or less.
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Epic failure to understand sarcasm! lol
Do you have learning difficulties?
hahahahaha, Ron must be running a 3 for 1 special on gimmicks for Christmas, these shitstains are popping up like weeds lately. :D
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hahahahaha, Ron must be running a 3 for 1 special on gimmicks for Christmas, these shitstains are popping up like weeds lately. :D
Yeah his post looks VERY similar to the guilt trip ole Swede! tried to put on me a page back.
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cute but what's wrong with her teeth swede?
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cute but what's wrong with her teeth swede?
Thats what happends with 12 year olds that still have their baby teeth. Maybe he could find a picture from a site that has adults on it....see my point?
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Thats what happends with 12 year olds that still have their baby teeth. Maybe he could find a picture from a site that has adults on it....see my point?
no i mean they look kind of yellow/brown.
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no i mean they look kind of yellow/brown.
She probably just smokes alot of cigarettes and drinks alot of Starbucks
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no i mean they look kind of yellow/brown.
I would want to cum on her teeth to make them look white again
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ok i david henry would gt beta up by the better ufc guys...however big bodybuilders, eespecialy like coleman... coleman would fuck hat little asian dudes shit up. are you forgetting the huge dramatic difference between their size and strength
you MUST be a little guy yourself, to think a guy who is so dramatically over powered could win on 'skill' ::) alone
ill tell you what 'skill' in fighting is, and hey, i dont even get in many fights at all..these are raked in order of most importance
1. ability to take a powerful hit
2. ability to lay a powerful hit
BOOOOOMMMMMM
thats it
andi will gurantee you that ronnie coleman is gonna hit you a hell of alot harder than any little bitch ufc punk is going to. and i will also garantee you that you could punch ronnie as hard as you could in the noggin and its just gonna make him more angry.
little ufc guys stand no chance to a mass monster like ronnie
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Tell that to Bob Sapp's orbital bone. Sapp has a 100 pounds of muscle on Cro Cop. One punch and Cro Cop broke Sapp's orbital bone.
Size doesn't matter.
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Tell that to Bob Sapp's orbital bone. Sapp has a 100 pounds of muscle on Cro Cop. One punch and Cro Cop broke Sapp's orbital bone.
Size doesn't matter.
Sapp won two fights against Hoost... How do you explain that "Marky"?
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ok i david henry would gt beta up by the better ufc guys...however big bodybuilders, eespecialy like coleman... coleman would fuck hat little asian dudes shit up. are you forgetting the huge dramatic difference between their size and strength
you MUST be a little guy yourself, to think a guy who is so dramatically over powered could win on 'skill' ::) alone
ill tell you what 'skill' in fighting is, and hey, i dont even get in many fights at all..these are raked in order of most importance
1. ability to take a powerful hit
2. ability to lay a powerful hit
BOOOOOMMMMMM
thats it
andi will gurantee you that ronnie coleman is gonna hit you a hell of alot harder than any little bitch ufc punk is going to. and i will also garantee you that you could punch ronnie as hard as you could in the noggin and its just gonna make him more angry.
little ufc guys stand no chance to a mass monster like ronnie
Royce Gracie, 180lbs, submitted Akebono (400+lbs) in MMA. Akebono has some skills and experience in combat whereas Coleman has none. Being big doesn't mean you can hit hard. That takes some coordination and skill. Some years back Coleman was in Brazil and met Vitor Belford, a very good, but not super great, MMA fighter. Belford fights in the under 200lb weight class. Coleman freely admitted that would not have a chance against Vitor.
Ever been choked out? Not matter how big you are you still need to breath. The late Rockson Gracie at 13 years old choked out a full grown man.
It may be true that whomever you are adressing in your post is a little guy with the implication being that he doesn't know how much of a difference size and strength plays. But I am sure that if he trains in MMA/Jiu-Jitsu he knows very well as there is no weight classed during training sessions.
You on the other, in spite of your gaurantees, obviously have little or no experience in the combat arts.
* waits for mindless boast about how tough he is and how many fights he has and the inevitable, and always pointless, internet challenge *
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I wouldn't even give Ronnie 2RD against 154 lbs. Buakwa. He's been training muy thai since he was 4-years-old. He's considered the best pound for pound muy thai fighter ever.
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Sapp won two fights against Hoost... How do you explain that "Marky"?
What does that have to do with Cro Cop breaking Sapp's orbital bone? ::)
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The ability to witness two men stand toe to toe in the spirit of sportsmanship and pummel each other into insensibility is what separates us from the animals.
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Fighters are not superheroes, nor they fly... Why are there weight classes in almost every combat sports? Do yoy think that a 65kgs boxer could beat Holyfield, Tyson or Lewis? In MMA the best fighters are heavy and strong. I don't like Bob Sapp, not because what you guys say that he is a cry baby (for me he only does't have a fighter personality) but because he really doesn't know how to fight. But he won several combats rely on strength and power. In my opinion only half a duzen of all UFC/MMA fighters could beat the fuck out a guy like Pudzianowski, Savickas or enver Ronnie Coleman, in a street fight...
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The Sapp fights against Hoost were the attempt of K-1 to push the new, young, $$$ maker against the established veteran. Sapp didn't stop the match, but the referee stepped in who of course is appointed by K-1. Anyone who knows anything about K-1 knows they can be corrupt. They'll fuck over anyone to make money.
For example in K-1 MAX the Japanese $$$ cow Masato always gets the easiest possible route to the finals of the tournament because he's hugely popular in Japan and sells tickets. A Masato final/champion ensures a good payday for K-1.
In Sapps case he was huge in Japan landing multi-million dollar endorsement deals, ect. However, he was just a flash in the pan because he was soon exposed by guys who weren't gonna play with him like Hoost did, i.e. Cro Cop, Sefo, LeBanner.
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Fighters are not superheroes, nor they fly... Why are there weight classes in almost every combat sports? Do yoy think that a 65kgs boxer could beat Holyfield, Tyson or Lewis? In MMA the best fighters are heavy and strong. I don't like Bob Sapp, not because what you guys say that he is a cry baby (for me he only does't have a fighter personality) but because he really doesn't know how to fight. But he won several combats rely on strength and power. In my opinion only half a duzen of all UFC/MMA fighters could beat the fuck out a guy like Pudzianowski, Savickas or enver Ronnie Coleman, in a street fight...
I agree that it would take some of the best 150 lbser's to take out a 300 lbs. Ronnie, but no doubt about it that BJ Penn, Gomi, GSP, Sherk, and a whole list of elites would completely embarrass any of the strongest/biggest bodybuilders around.
In Japan it's considered the Wild West of fighting. There are no sanctioning bodies so therefore they can have open weight matches. Much smaller fighters have beaten much larger fighters numerous times.
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Fighters are not superheroes, nor they fly... Why are there weight classes in almost every combat sports? Do yoy think that a 65kgs boxer could beat Holyfield, Tyson or Lewis? In MMA the best fighters are heavy and strong. I don't like Bob Sapp, not because what you guys say that he is a cry baby (for me he only does't have a fighter personality) but because he really doesn't know how to fight. But he won several combats rely on strength and power. In my opinion only half a duzen of all UFC/MMA fighters could beat the fuck out a guy like Pudzianowski, Savickas or enver Ronnie Coleman, in a street fight...
Again, any top ranked MMA fighter over 185 pounds would beat up any of those guys in a street fight...
Maybe not in a packed bar, but if you set them up 10 feet away from each other in a parking lot give me the MMA guy every time. I mean fuck, they train to throw strikes for THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of hours!
Just cause your big and strong doesn't mean you are gonna be able to take a punch or a flurry of punches from a trained mixed martial artist.
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Sapp was a true freak of nature. 400 lbs with abs. Too bad he tried to pull his typical bullshit with a badass like Sefo ;D.
The Sapp fight is at the end of the video.
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Tell me who you think would win in this fight?
Both are 40+ years old.
like we don't know who rickson is.
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Just cause your big and strong doesn't mean you are gonna be able to take a punch or a flurry of punches from a trained mixed martial artist.
and just cause your big and strong may mean you can take punches.
there's a reason there are weight classes.
besides, looks are deceiving - fedor, nog, liddell, etc.
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Bob Sapp sucks.
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and just cause your big and strong may mean you can take punches.
there's a reason there are weight classes.
besides, looks are deceiving - fedor, nog, liddell, etc.
I realise there are weight classes for a reason, a great 150 pounder will never beat a great 200 pounder.
As far as taking punches, a top level 185+ pound MMA fighter could knock out ANYONE... bodybuilder or not, with a good bare fisted flurry placed correctly.
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
failed boxers more like, boxing is far tougher than UFC, in UFC they roll round a lot in boxing you re gettting hit all the time, far tougher men,
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As far as taking punches, a top level 185+ pound MMA fighter could knock out ANYONE... bodybuilder or not, with a good bare fisted flurry placed correctly.
not mark hunt.
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ok i david henry would gt beta up by the better ufc guys...however big bodybuilders, eespecialy like coleman... coleman would fuck hat little asian dudes shit up. are you forgetting the huge dramatic difference between their size and strength
you MUST be a little guy yourself, to think a guy who is so dramatically over powered could win on 'skill' ::) alone
ill tell you what 'skill' in fighting is, and hey, i dont even get in many fights at all..these are raked in order of most importance
1. ability to take a powerful hit
2. ability to lay a powerful hit
BOOOOOMMMMMM
thats it
andi will gurantee you that ronnie coleman is gonna hit you a hell of alot harder than any little bitch ufc punk is going to. and i will also garantee you that you could punch ronnie as hard as you could in the noggin and its just gonna make him more angry.
little ufc guys stand no chance to a mass monster like ronnie
The only problem with Coleman is that his punches will be so slow that he's got little chance of getting any in.
Your point = good to a certain degree, if the strength and size difference = too big, as in the case with Coleman and a UFC fighter at 170 pounds, he'll give the a ton of trouble. But again, Coleman = a freak of nature.
If you match a retarded whiner like Dexter Jackson (who is not really that huge compared to Coleman) up against a killing machine like Wanderlei Silva, or a monster like Fedor, he'll get destroyed within half a minute at most. Debussey would be interested to know how long it would take for Dexter Jackson to lose his prickly demeanor when being in the ring against a beast like Silva.
A guy like Fedor would also absolutely MURDER a guy like Coleman.
And David Henry... Don't even get Debussey started ;D
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Hey sexy, how are you doing?
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Hey sexy, how are you doing?
Just getting shit ready for fight night.
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Just getting shit ready for fight night.
Against a UFC fighter?
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hahahahhaha what a joke :D :D
"tbombz" has never been/or seen a fight/or trained MMA/ i guarantee you :D
170pound BJ penn would murder a 220pound bodybuilder, and ANY 190pound+ UFC 3rd class fighter
would destroy "ronnie" or "jay" hahahahha
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hahahahhaha what a joke :D :D
"tbombz" has never been/or seen a fight/or trained MMA/ i guarantee you :D
170pound BJ penn would murder a 220pound bodybuilder, and ANY 190pound+ UFC 3rd class fighter
would destroy "ronnie" or "jay" hahahahha
Do you think Dexters arrogance will last long against Fedor? :)
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shinya aoki could easily tool jay, ronnie and dexter
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This year we had a UFC fighter die in a murder suicide. Shit like that doesn't happen in bodybuilding :(
Hi Cuts260!
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This year we had a UFC fighter die in a murder suicide. Shit like that doesn't happen in bodybuilding :(
Hi Cuts260!
with all due respect to the point you were trying to make but justin levens was barely in the UFC
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with all due respect to the point you were trying to make but justin levens was barely in the UFC
His woman was hot. WTF was wrong with that dude?
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I cant believe anyone would actually think a bodybuilder would stand a chance against a UFC fighter, compare their physiques in a bodybuilding scenario, and thats about as close the fight would be as well, Big Rons legs wouldnt take one leg kick.
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Against a UFC fighter?
Yes but I ate so much crap today I don't think I'll make weight.I cant believe anyone would actually think a bodybuilder would stand a chance against a UFC fighter, compare their physiques in a bodybuilding scenario, and thats about as close the fight would be as well, Big Rons legs wouldnt take one leg kick.
Depends, in a cage of on a stage?
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His woman was hot. WTF was wrong with that dude?
he had a "rough childhood"
guys who can't shake their pasts apparently think the only cure is suicide/murder suicide
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he had a "rough childhood"
guys who can't shake their pasts apparently think the only cure is suicide/murder suicide
WTF was he supposed to do? get a 9 to 5 job and follow the law like everyone else?
he marched to the beat of his own drummer.
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Size offers a huge advantage. But how advantageous is size if you're a slow, drugged out, lethargic bodybuilder as opposed to someone who's incredibly conditioned and athletic? I like bb'ing and MMA, but make no mistake - 9 times out of 10 the MMA fighter is going to whoop the bodybuilder. Buakaw Por Pramuk would fuck up damn near every IFBB pro out there. Even the Pac Man, Manny Pacqiao would FUCK UP almost all the bodybuilders out there.
Just because someone can bear hug you all oiled up in their thong doesn't mean they're immune to submissions, knock outs and just plain getting out classed. There is no competition. Bb'ing is incredibly hard to defend. I mean honestly, it's not a sport, guys. It's oiled up fags in thongs. I still like bb'ing a little bit, but the professional scene is a disgrace. Especially since I came here and learned about the secret frontiers of bb'ing faggotry. I am disgusted by it.
There are a ton of skinny, wussy MMA twerps and wannabes out there too. Just like the super roided out gym rats on grams of androgens, peptides and other hormones that hardly look like they're trying to build muscle. Little fags in their Tapout and Affliction shirts are just as bad as chest and bicep warriors that discuss the latest in creatine loading protocols and which macronutrient ratio is the best for getting jacked.
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what if they put on so much oil, the fighter couldn't get a grip on them? What if the sequins from the thong reflect off the light and blind the fighter?
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what if they put on so much oil, the fighter couldn't get a grip on them? What if the sequins from the thong reflect off the light and blind the fighter?
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BB=all show no go.
Trained fighter= real life ass kicker.
IMO 200lber's are the best fighters on the planet and for the most the reasons for weight classes is so the heavy weights don't get their ass handed to them by a smaller guy ;D :P 8)
meltdown!!!!!!!!!!
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This russian should be matched up against Dexter Jackson:
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This russian should be matched up against Dexter Jackson:
Dexter's shredded glutes would intimidate him.
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Of course this argument is moot as it probably will never happen. Any top MMA fighter will fight any top bodybuilder but no top bodybuilder will ever step into the ring or cage with an MMA fighter. Of course, if a bodybuilder decides to change sports then that's a different story. But then it's a different argument. Chris Cook has made the transition and we are still awaiting his success story. I do find it interesting that he did not find all his previous muscle mass advantages in Jiu-Jitsu and MMA.
Here is part one (I'll leave it to you to ifnd part 2) of Roger Gracie's fight with Ron Waterman, the closest (and pretty damn close) thing you'll find to a competitive bodybuilder, going at it. Roger is primarily a tournament Jiu-Jitsu and submission wrestler champion. His stand up here is in it's infancy as this is his first crack at MMA. His physique would be the subject of ridicule on this board. Waterman, I would think, would get enthusiastic compliments on his build. Deservedly so. But, as you can see, big muscles wasn't enough. And this guy has legit MMA skills. Infinitely more than a Coleman, Ruhl, Cutler, Cormier, et al.
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mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace
if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)
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mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.
Is there any Martial arts which require more strength than the others to be effective? if so which ones?
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a 170pound tit like bj penn can easily murder any bodybuilder no matter how big they are, epic cosmetic muscles
:D
lol, but well, while he is a great fighter, he has a shitty phisique...
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It's not just fighters that mock bodybuilders. It's also... well, everybody else.
Bingo!
That's why I say I lift weights. ;D
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mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace
if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)
My eyes hurt.
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gracie bjj, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite GB posters. the style is a little bunched up, but the info you bring is new and interesting - keep it up!
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if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)
Put the shit in PARAGRAPHS for fuck sake!!!
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ive been diagnosed with (SRS)slight retardation syndrome,they say ill get better with counseling.ive always sucked at typing paragraphs and sentences,im tryin my best believe it or not.plus ive done tons of drugs over the years and my brains pretty fried at this point of my life.im gonna make a better effort even though im really struggling with this bi polar shit,im on xanax and methadone and man that shit really knocks you out
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I really think it's a joke how pro BB is trying to jump on the mma bandwagon, people talk about how the 2 "sports" have so much in common that it's just natural for them to work together. that's garbage. What does BB bring to the table? The UFC wouldn't benifit one bit from having the top 10 BB in the world show up in the front row of the next PPV event but I would almost bet that flex sells more copies when they put randy and brock on the cover of thier mag...hell they bumped mr. O for that.
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MMA, IFBB, NFL, LPGA, MLS....doesn't matter. They all respect me in the streets... ;D
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MMA, IFBB, NFL, LPGA, MLS....doesn't matter. They all respect me in the streets... ;D
You're a pretty scary guy Tyrell Jamal Muhammed
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You're a pretty scary guy Tyrell Jamal Muhammed
you're pretty scary yourself there, stud.
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mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace
if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)
awesome post bro, good read
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what if they put on so much oil, the fighter couldn't get a grip on them? What if the sequins from the thong reflect off the light and blind the fighter?
Then you grab the vain bodybuilder's shredded glutes and proceed to destroy him. You just have to be careful that it doesn't turn on his G4P, grapefruit fuckin', tranny pounding ass though. As long as he hasn't taken his daily dose of 25 Viagra and Cialis to get his dick working, you've probably got nothing to worry about though.
Seriously. You can be all for bodybuilding but in comparison to just about any sport, it's gay as fuck. Gayer than sweaty grease monkeys playing cricket under the hot Indian sun. No one can deny it. I don't even try defending bodybuilding anymore. It's a futile attempt.
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This video shows us a fight between a bber and Gracie. Well, for a guy that never trained any martial art the bber never was overmatched, or murdered like some of you guys say. He lost the figt, that's a fact, by getting into an arm bar, but im UFC MMA lots of superheroes fighters lose their matches in arm bars, so I do not consider it a big deal. I think that in 10 fights this bodybuilder could win 3 or 4 against this second degree black belt. if the bber took 3 weeks of boxing training he would have wiped that guy's ass...
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM&feature=related
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This video shows us a fight between a bber and Gracie. Well, for a guy that never trained any martial art the bber never was overmatched, or murdered like some of you guys say. He lost the figt, that's a fact, by getting into an arm bar, but im UFC MMA lots of superheroes fighters lose their matches in arm bars, so I do not consider it a big deal. I think that in 10 fights this bodybuilder could win 3 or 4 against this second degree black belt. if the bber took 3 weeks of boxing training he would have wiped that guy's ass...
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM&feature=related
That was also a fight: 150 pounds vs. 250 pounds ::) And Pedro Gracie = not even a top ranked MMA fighter.. We're not talking "black belts" here, but real competitive MMA fighters.
Put a 170 - 180 pounder (top ranked) against the same 250 pounder, and he'd be dead.
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That was also a fight: 150 pounds vs. 250 pounds ::) And Pedro Gracie = not even a top ranked MMA fighter.. We're not talking "black belts" here, but real competitive MMA fighters.
Put a 170 - 180 pounder (top ranked) against the same 250 pounder, and he'd be dead.
That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.
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That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.
Your argument = still flawed.
Put a 180 - 205 pounder (top UFC) against Ronnie, and Ronnie = dead.
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ive been diagnosed with (SRS)slight retardation syndrome,they say ill get better with counseling.ive always sucked at typing paragraphs and sentences,im tryin my best believe it or not.plus ive done tons of drugs over the years and my brains pretty fried at this point of my life.im gonna make a better effort even though im really struggling with this bi polar shit,im on xanax and methadone and man that shit really knocks you out
Just press Enter a few times while you are typing
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That juice monkey would have lost against 150 pound Gracie fighter 98%+ of the time on the ground as well.
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That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.
You don't know crap.
top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top boxer vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
fighters rule. end of story.
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You don't know crap.
top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top boxer vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
fighters rule. end of story.
Do you know many of the Gracies?
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That juice monkey would have lost against 150 pound Gracie fighter 98%+ of the time on the ground as well.
100% of the time.
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100% of the time.
Yes. After looking at that fight, it was not even close. That big BB got beat at standup, and could not do much on the ground. He'd get caught at one point or another.
And for that doofus thinking that 3 weeks of boxing training would make him competitive in that fight needs to eat a reality pill.
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Do you know many of the Gracies?
You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?
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You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?
Oh brother.
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You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?
Hi, gimmick! :D
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You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?
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Is there any Martial arts which require more strength than the others to be effective? if so which ones?
All other things being equal, size and strength are an advantage in any martial art.
For example, in Judo, one of your primary goals is to unbalance your opponent. You do this by applying force. Obviously, the bigger and stronger you are, the more force you can apply. Conversely, the smaller man needs to apply more force, or work harder, to unbalance the bigger man.
In bjj, size and strength are an advantage because the bigger man has the option of playing guard or fighting from the top. The smaller man has to play guard.
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I can see graciebjj is no stranger to the mat. No matter how big and strong you are once you lose your wind you're dead. Remember Mark Coleman vs Pete Williams. Williams was getting pounded but weather the storm. Coleman couldn't put him away and gassed. A Chuck Norris style round house kick sent Coleman to the mat and left him a quivering mass of muscle seemingly barely holding on to life. It was almost painful to watch.
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Well! you dont have to believe me. thats the beauty of the internet.
you never know who you talking to.
and im sorry for my english it sucks i know. but... se vc quizer a gente pode se falar em portugues.
quem sabe eu posso te matar algumas curiosidades.
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All other things being equal, size and strength are an advantage in any martial art.
For example, in Judo, one of your primary goals is to unbalance your opponent. You do this by applying force. Obviously, the bigger and stronger you are, the more force you can apply. Conversely, the smaller man needs to apply more force, or work harder, to unbalance the bigger man.
In bjj, size and strength are an advantage because the bigger man has the option of playing guard or fighting from the top. The smaller man has to play guard.
Yes, the operative phrase being "All other things being equal." Take Royce today and make an exact version except bigger and stronger then of course the bigger stronger version will win. But for Ronnie to reach the skill level of Royce he would have to sacrifice his bodybuilding training. Again, Chris Cook being a real world example.
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Well! you dont have to believe me. thats the beauty of the internet.
you never know who you talking to.
and im sorry for my english it sucks i know. but... se vc quizer a gente pode se falar em portugues.
quem sabe eu posso te matar algumas curiosidades.
It's Ryan back from the dead. How are things in hell?
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UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. :P
Hahaahhahahahahahahaahah a - oh brother - looks like I upset a lot of people on Christmas Day with my little joke, also known as "sarcasm". You guys take this shit waaay to seriously. :D
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Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill ;D
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Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill ;D
Ive seen that but didnt know the kid was only 19.
Im amazed how calm he stayed he fucking Owned that monster.
I would wanna meet that roid guy in a bar and have him throwing a sucker punch lol. Lights out.
I think Kirill Sidelnikov has trained with fedor.
Tough focking russians.
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Ive seen that but didnt know the kid was only 19.
Im amazed how calm he stayed he fucking Owned that monster.
I would wanna meet that roid guy in a bar and have him throwing a sucker punch lol. Lights out.
ahah!
DEbussey = just waiting for the posters coming out to claim: "well, that big dude did not know how to fight, look at how he drops his guard" and shit like that. What these BB hugging faggits don't seem to grasp is that the big dude in the video (Martin Soltisyk) is a better fighter than what 99,999% of the IFBB pros would be if they trained MMA for 1 - 2+ years straight, and his cardio and punching = a lot harder than what the IFBB roid-monkeys could ever do unless they went on a 2+ year "training binge".
The 19 year old (Kirill Sidelnikov) might not be 150 pounds, but he's still a "pudgy" 19 year old that = outweighted by a lot + fighting a guy with skills. He'd KILL Coleman.
(Kirill = one of Fedors training partners).
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Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill ;D
Skill >>>> aesthetics.
But then again, the majority of Getbiggers are too vain and secretly in love with their grapefruit fucking idols to see the truth.
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ahah!
DEbussey = just waiting for the posters coming out to claim: "well, that big dude did not know how to fight, look at how he drops his guard" and shit like that. What these BB hugging faggits don't seem to grasp is that the big dude in the video (Martin Soltisyk) is a better fighter than what 99,999% of the IFBB pros would be if they trained MMA for 1 - 2+ years straight, and his cardio and punching = a lot harder than what the IFBB roid-monkeys could ever do unless they went on a 2+ year "training binge".
The 19 year old (Kirill Sidelnikov) might not be 150 pounds, but he's still a "pudgy" 19 year old that = outweighted by a lot + fighting a guy with skills. He'd KILL Coleman.
Mr.Debussey...You are 1 million % spot on.. It's the bigger (fatter )guys that have no idea.. I started training(boxing) about a yr. ago ,with my little boy ..All I had done for yrs.was lift heavy...Man! I couldn't go for more than 2 to 3 mins.without wanting to throw up ! I thought I was in pretty good shape ,because I had visible abs ..? Man I couldn't have been more wrong!!! Now I hit the gym,lift weights then train with my son.. My body has changed so much (look's better) .. And my endurance is crazy...Guys who take fighting seroius..Can see a punch ,coming from a mile away.. Physique means nothing...
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Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill ;D
If bodybuilding is for these loser, wimpy, steroid freaks why do you spend so much time on a bodybuilding board posting over 9K posts? Why not donate all of you knowledge to an MMA board? It doesn't make any sense if these juiced up men bother you so why spend so much time on a hobby you obviously have no respect for? Get a life son.
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Debussey, you hit a nerve. Why did you have to hit my nerve during christmas? This is supposed to be a nice time with family and eggnog. This was not nice of you Debussey. Please leave me alone until January.
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You don't know crap.
top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
top boxer vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
fighters rule. end of story.
Também ouvi dizer que são bons a suicidarem-se, bater nas mulheres e a terem problemas com a polícia.
Ah e também ouvi dizer que alguns deles conseguem voar...
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Whose Pedro Gracie? That is Pedro Sauer, a Rickson Black belt. He awarded a friend of mine his black belt recently.
All things being equal, bigger is best, but all things are not equal. Someone of extreme size, with little or no athleticism, and no skill stands 0 chance of beating a skilled fighter.
Someone like Ronnie, Cutler, Yates in his prime wouldn't last 1 minute against a skilled fighter. No defense to speak of, hands would be down by their waist, no ability to avoid a takedown. BJ, GSP, Anderson, Rashad would own ANY top bodybuilder.
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Whose Pedro Gracie? That is Pedro Sauer, a Rickson Black belt. He awarded a friend of mine his black belt recently.
All things being equal, bigger is best, but all things are not equal. Someone of extreme size, with little or no athleticism, and no skill stands 0 chance of beating a skilled fighter.
Someone like Ronnie, Cutler, Yates in his prime wouldn't last 1 minute against a skilled fighter. No defense to speak of, hands would be down by their waist, no ability to avoid a takedown. BJ, GSP, Anderson, Rashad would own ANY top bodybuilder.
100% spot on bulldog,i believe the cardio and musculer fatigue would be a huge disadvantage for the bodybuilders,the technique aspect is another huge obstacle also.just like anything else if a bodybuilder trains alittle mma afew days aweek he will gain some knowledge and insight of the sport.the problem is its impossible imo to be a top bodybuilder and a top mma fighter at the same time.the 2 sports kinda contradict each other imo,a huge part of a mma fighters success is having outstanding cardio,a huge part of a pro bodybuilders success is the steroid issue.steroids in the amount pros use would have the bodybuilders gassed halfway through rd 1 and thats not a good thing.ive been in training and i gassed i minute into rd 1 10 years ago when i was getting started in the sport,and thats a bad feeling when a dudes punchin and kickin the crap out of ya and you are so exhausted you cant even keep your hands up to defend yourself,i learned way back then how important cardio was
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100% spot on bulldog,i believe the cardio and musculer fatigue would be a huge disadvantage for the bodybuilders,the technique aspect is another huge obstacle also.just like anything else if a bodybuilder trains alittle mma afew days aweek he will gain some knowledge and insight of the sport.the problem is its impossible imo to be a top bodybuilder and a top mma fighter at the same time.the 2 sports kinda contradict each other imo,a huge part of a mma fighters success is having outstanding cardio,a huge part of a pro bodybuilders success is the steroid issue.steroids in the amount pros use would have the bodybuilders gassed halfway through rd 1 and thats not a good thing.ive been in training and i gassed i minute into rd 1 10 years ago when i was getting started in the sport,and thats a bad feeling when a dudes punchin and kickin the crap out of ya and you are so exhausted you cant even keep your hands up to defend yourself,i learned way back then how important cardio was
Ouve lá, a questão aqui não é colocar um culturista no ringue! Estamos a falar de briga pura e crua, seja numa discoteca, seja na rua, seja onde for. E se já trabalhaste à noite sabes muito bem que os indivíduos fortes e pesados são difíceis de lidar. Não adianta teres muito boxe ou bjj numa discoteca, pois tens que resolver o problema à força!