UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson

[The Master]

That juice monkey would have lost against 150 pound Gracie fighter 98%+ of the time on the ground as well.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.

 You don't know crap.
 top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.
 top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
 top boxer vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.

 fighters rule. end of story.
 

[The Master]

You don't know crap.
 top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.
 top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
 top boxer vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.

 fighters rule. end of story.
 

Do you know many of the Gracies?

[spinnis]

That juice monkey would have lost against 150 pound Gracie fighter 98%+ of the time on the ground as well.

100% of the time.

[The Master]

100% of the time.

Yes. After looking at that fight, it was not even close. That big BB got beat at standup, and could not do much on the ground. He'd get caught at one point or another.

And for that doofus thinking that 3 weeks of boxing training would make him competitive in that fight needs to eat a reality pill.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Do you know many of the Gracies?

You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?

[spinnis]

You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?

Oh brother.

 

[G o a t b o y]

You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?

Hi, gimmick! 

[The Master]

You mean my father, my brothers, my sisters and my cousins?

 

[Thin Lizzy]

Is there any Martial arts which require more strength than the others to be effective? if so which ones?

All other things being equal, size and strength are an advantage in any martial art.

For example, in Judo, one of your primary goals is to unbalance your opponent. You do this by applying force. Obviously, the bigger and stronger you are, the more force you can apply. Conversely, the smaller man needs to apply more force, or work harder, to unbalance the bigger man.

In bjj, size and strength are an advantage because the bigger man has the option of playing guard or fighting from the top. The smaller man has to play guard.

[luvvsuNOT]

I can see graciebjj is no stranger to the mat. No matter how big and strong you are once you lose your wind you're dead. Remember Mark Coleman vs Pete Williams. Williams was getting pounded but weather the storm. Coleman couldn't put him away and gassed. A Chuck Norris style round house kick sent Coleman to the mat and left him a quivering mass of muscle seemingly barely holding on to life. It was almost painful to watch.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

 

 Well! you dont have to believe me. thats the beauty of the internet.
 you never know who you talking to.
 and im sorry for my english it  sucks i know. but... se vc  quizer a gente pode se falar em portugues.
 quem sabe eu posso te matar algumas curiosidades.


 

[luvvsuNOT]

All other things being equal, size and strength are an advantage in any martial art.

For example, in Judo, one of your primary goals is to unbalance your opponent. You do this by applying force. Obviously, the bigger and stronger you are, the more force you can apply. Conversely, the smaller man needs to apply more force, or work harder, to unbalance the bigger man.

In bjj, size and strength are an advantage because the bigger man has the option of playing guard or fighting from the top. The smaller man has to play guard.

Yes, the operative phrase being "All other things being equal." Take Royce today and make an exact version except bigger and stronger then of course the bigger stronger version will win. But for Ronnie to reach the skill level of Royce he would have to sacrifice his bodybuilding training. Again, Chris Cook being a real world example.

[luvvsuNOT]

Well! you dont have to believe me. thats the beauty of the internet.
 you never know who you talking to.
 and im sorry for my english it  sucks i know. but... se vc  quizer a gente pode se falar em portugues.
 quem sabe eu posso te matar algumas curiosidades.


 

It's Ryan back from the dead. How are things in hell?

[JasonH]

UFC fighters are nothing more than failed bodybuilders, plain and simple. 

Hahaahhahahahahahahaahah a - oh brother - looks like I upset a lot of people on Christmas Day with my little joke, also known as "sarcasm". You guys take this shit waaay to seriously. 

[The Master]

Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill

[spinnis]

Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill

Ive seen that but didnt know the kid was only 19.
Im amazed how calm he stayed he fucking Owned that monster.


I would wanna meet that roid guy in a bar and have him throwing a sucker punch lol. Lights out.


I think Kirill Sidelnikov has trained with fedor.
Tough focking russians.

[The Master]

Ive seen that but didnt know the kid was only 19.
Im amazed how calm he stayed he fucking Owned that monster.


I would wanna meet that roid guy in a bar and have him throwing a sucker punch lol. Lights out.

ahah!

DEbussey = just waiting for the posters coming out to claim: "well, that big dude did not know how to fight, look at how he drops his guard" and shit like that. What these BB hugging faggits don't seem to grasp is that the big dude in the video (Martin Soltisyk) is a better fighter than what 99,999% of the IFBB pros would be if they trained MMA for 1 - 2+ years straight, and his cardio and punching = a lot harder than what the IFBB roid-monkeys could ever do unless they went on a 2+ year "training binge".


The 19 year old (Kirill Sidelnikov) might not be 150 pounds, but he's still a "pudgy" 19 year old that = outweighted by a lot + fighting a guy with skills. He'd KILL Coleman.

(Kirill = one of Fedors training partners).

[dustin]

Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill

Skill >>>> aesthetics.

But then again, the majority of Getbiggers are too vain and secretly in love with their grapefruit fucking idols to see the truth.

[Big Worm]

ahah!

DEbussey = just waiting for the posters coming out to claim: "well, that big dude did not know how to fight, look at how he drops his guard" and shit like that. What these BB hugging faggits don't seem to grasp is that the big dude in the video (Martin Soltisyk) is a better fighter than what 99,999% of the IFBB pros would be if they trained MMA for 1 - 2+ years straight, and his cardio and punching = a lot harder than what the IFBB roid-monkeys could ever do unless they went on a 2+ year "training binge".


The 19 year old (Kirill Sidelnikov) might not be 150 pounds, but he's still a "pudgy" 19 year old that = outweighted by a lot + fighting a guy with skills. He'd KILL Coleman.

Mr.Debussey...You are 1 million % spot on.. It's the bigger (fatter )guys that have no idea.. I started training(boxing) about a yr. ago ,with my little boy ..All I had done for yrs.was lift heavy...Man! I couldn't go for more than 2 to 3 mins.without wanting to throw up ! I thought I was in pretty good shape ,because I had visible abs ..? Man I couldn't have been more wrong!!! Now I hit the gym,lift weights then train with my son.. My body has changed so much (look's better) .. And my endurance is crazy...Guys who take fighting seroius..Can see a punch ,coming from a mile away.. Physique means nothing...

[HeyNow]

Big steroid-freak WITH fighting ability against a pudgy 19 year old from Russia named Kirill

If bodybuilding is for these loser, wimpy, steroid freaks why do you spend so much time on a bodybuilding board posting over 9K posts?  Why not donate all of you knowledge to an MMA board?  It doesn't make any sense if these juiced up men bother you so why spend so much time on a hobby you obviously have no respect for?  Get a life son.

[The Master]

Debussey, you hit a nerve. Why did you have to hit my nerve during christmas? This is supposed to be a nice time with family and eggnog. This was not nice of you Debussey. Please leave me alone until January.

[rccs]

You don't know crap.
 top bodybuilder vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.
 top weightlifter vs top mma fighter. mma fighter no doubt.
 top boxer vs top mma fighter.  mma fighter no doubt.

 fighters rule. end of story.
 

Também ouvi dizer que são bons a suicidarem-se, bater nas mulheres e a terem problemas com a polícia.
Ah e também ouvi dizer que alguns deles conseguem voar...

[americanbulldog]

Whose Pedro Gracie?  That is Pedro Sauer, a Rickson Black belt.  He awarded a friend of mine his black belt recently. 

All things being equal, bigger is best, but all things are not equal.  Someone of extreme size, with little or no athleticism, and no skill stands 0 chance of beating a skilled fighter. 

Someone like Ronnie, Cutler, Yates in his prime wouldn't last 1 minute against a skilled fighter.  No defense to speak of, hands would be down by their waist, no ability to avoid a takedown.  BJ, GSP, Anderson, Rashad would own ANY top bodybuilder. 

[gracie bjj]

Whose Pedro Gracie?  That is Pedro Sauer, a Rickson Black belt.  He awarded a friend of mine his black belt recently. 

All things being equal, bigger is best, but all things are not equal.  Someone of extreme size, with little or no athleticism, and no skill stands 0 chance of beating a skilled fighter. 

Someone like Ronnie, Cutler, Yates in his prime wouldn't last 1 minute against a skilled fighter.  No defense to speak of, hands would be down by their waist, no ability to avoid a takedown.  BJ, GSP, Anderson, Rashad would own ANY top bodybuilder. 

100% spot on bulldog,i believe the cardio and musculer fatigue would be a huge disadvantage for the bodybuilders,the technique aspect is another huge obstacle also.just like anything else if a bodybuilder trains alittle mma afew days aweek he will gain some knowledge and insight of the sport.the problem is its impossible imo to be a top bodybuilder and a top mma fighter at the same time.the 2 sports kinda contradict each other imo,a huge part of a mma fighters success is having outstanding cardio,a huge part of a pro bodybuilders success is the steroid issue.steroids in the amount pros use would have the bodybuilders gassed halfway through rd 1 and thats not a good thing.ive been in training and i gassed i minute into rd 1 10 years ago when i was getting started in the sport,and thats a bad feeling when a dudes punchin and kickin the crap out of ya and you are so exhausted you cant even keep your hands up to defend yourself,i learned way back then how important cardio was