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History of Golf
No-one really knows where this wonderful frustrating game came from in the history of golf.
From early records the Romans played a game of paganica, in the streets of Londinium, the Belgians a game of chole, and the Dutch a game of kolven.
Whilst the argument rages on, the one indisputable fact concerning the origins of golf is, that golf was first played in the form we know it in Scotland.
The Early Years
It would appear that around 1353, golfers adopted the principle of allowing each team to hit a second uninterrupted shot. Previously, teams of players would alternate hitting a ball back and forth across the links in Fife.
The history of golf shows that golf also rapidly acquired such a popularity, that it eclipsed the sport of archery. Archery was so vital to Scotland’s national defence, that the playing of golf in Scotland was made a criminal offence punishable by hanging.
The first year that signs of the "golf bug" appeared among the population in parts of Scotland was 1457. In Scottish golf history a game called "gouf", it is referred to in Acts of Parliament under the Scottish King, James II.
Around 1502, King James IV succumbs to temptation and purchases clubs and balls from a bowmaker in Perth, Scotland.
In 1504, the first record of a golf match, was between James IV and the Earl of Bothwell.
Mary Queen of Scots is criticised for playing golf in the grounds of Seton House soon after the death of her husband, in 1567.
There are many interesting facts in the history of golf such as the Lawmakers ban the playing of golf on Sundays in 1592.
The first mention of the feathery ball, was in 1620. This was a leather casing stuffed with birds feathers. Prior to this date wooden spheres were played.
The Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers, founded in 1744 and now based at Muirfield near Edinburgh, was the first organised golf club in the world. It was responsible for writing the first set of official rules of the game of golf, which numbered just 13 in all.
The history of golf shows that these were later expanded and developed by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews in Scotland, itself founded in 1754. They hold the very first “open”, with the first prize of a silver cup.
The Royal and Ancient is still the game's chief lawmaker and is also historically responsible for determining that the standard round of golf is made up of 18 holes.
The origin of golf spread first from Scotland into England. The first clubs formed south of the Scotland/England border were the Royal Blackheath Golf Club near London, established in 1766, followed by the Old Manchester Golf Club founded at Kersal Moor in 1818.
The first mention of a ladies golfing society is recorded. It is called the Fish Wives of Mussleburgh
Golf then took hold in parts of Wales and Ireland before spreading to parts of the British Commonwealth. The first golf club in the world founded outside Great Britain was Royal Calcutta in India in 1829.
The invention of the gutta percha ball (or "guttie"), was in 1848. Prior to this, golf ball construction was a laborious and costly art practiced by a handful of manufacturers in the vicinity of Edinburgh - and if a ball was expensive, freight was prohibitive. Golf at this time simply had no chance to expand beyond the Scottish lowlands. Since all of golf was compacted into such a tiny area, golfers were able to learn simply by imitating the great players of the day on the handful of courses then in existence.
The first championship meeting is played, in 1857, at Prestwick. The format is foursomes.
In 1860, the Open Championship is held for the first time. The format is strokeplay and it's held over the Prestwick Links.
The first golf club in North America, to be established was by “The Royal Montreal GC” in 1873.
The modern wound (Haskell) ball appeared in the early 1900’s and made the guttie obsolete.
Golf Course Design
Why are courses designed the way they are? Because sheep grazed the grass between the dunes at St Andrews in Scotland, forming what we now know as fairways and greens.
Golf courses also have bunkers, because at St Andrews the sheep that grazed on what is now the Old Course burrowed into the soft turf to cheat the gales blowing in, off the North Sea.
These natural phenomena shaped the first links so long ago the events themselves have been lost in the mists of time, but some experts believe golf was being played at the Old Course as long ago as the 13th Century.
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The History Of A Great SPORT....Intresting
Subtlety was never your strong suit, Joe, but I like where you're goin' with this! ;D
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you know what is a great sport?
http://www.redtube.com/1310
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Subtlety was never your strong suit, Joe, but I like where you're goin' with this! ;D
It'll go right over Earls head.
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coach how can you swing long irons, woods, and driver? i tried to play reently and no way i can make a good swing with those longer clubs. just too much bulk in the way.
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you know what is a great sport?
http://www.redtube.com/1310
Thanks Rob, now I have smut on computer >:(
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This is what a true athlete looks like
(http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/john-daly-golfer1.jpg)
Take notes
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coach how can you swing long irons, woods, and driver? i tried to play reently and no way i can make a good swing with those longer clubs. just too much bulk in the way.
I don't train like a bodybuilder. I use little compound exercises and my flexibility is pretty good for someone my age.
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I don't train like a bodybuilder. I use little compound exercises and my flexibility is pretty good for someone my age.
but when you were a bodybuilder?
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This is what a true athlete looks like
(http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/john-daly-golfer1.jpg)
Take notes
Believe it or not, Daly is more flexible than most on tour, but yeah, pretty poor example compared to most of the golfers on tour. One thing I have learned, is that most pros were athletes either in high school or college. One guy, KJ Choi, was a powerlifter before he became a pro golfer.
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but when you were a bodybuilder?
Never was, just trained like one :)
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your impossible
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your impossible
Hi Peggy........Linda and Carol.
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Golf is NOT a sport. Sorry, but I have to be fair. Once again, it requires skill, but NO athletic ability. Thus, any fat fuck, or old person can do it.
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Golf is NOT a sport. Sorry, but I have to be fair. Once again, it requires skill, but NO athletic ability. Thus, any fat fuck, or old person can do it.
But not any fat fuck or old person can compete. Anyone can lift weights and thats doesn't take athletic ability, it takes more athletic ability to play golf. Look at it this way.....there's NO, ZERO, NADA athletic ability or skill in bodybuilding.
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But not any fat fuck or old person can compete. Anyone can lift weights and thats doesn't take athletic ability, it takes more athletic ability to play golf. Look at it this way.....there's NO, ZERO, NADA athletic ability or skill in bodybuilding.
I agree. You're preaching to the choir, as far as comp. bbing goes.
However, comp. does take some skill. You gotta be able to display your physique, and you gotta blow the right judges.... :-\
As far as the Fat Fuck can't compete....what about that Daly guy? He's a fuck fuck. Coach, I get that you really enjoy Golfing, and no, it's not easy. That doesn't make it a sport. A fun, challenging hobby, pastime, competition? Sure.
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i'd luv to play golf, but its so f..ing expensive...:(
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Btw, Coach, could you find us more about the history of bbing? I think it started with the (gay) Greeks watching young men strip and pose, dance, et cetera.
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i'd luv to play golf, but its so f..ing expensive...:(
It's by design. It keeps the po' folks out of the golf courses.
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Thought this thread was going to be about Bodybuilding. ;D
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I agree. You're preaching to the choir, as far as comp. bbing goes.
However, comp. does take some skill. You gotta be able to display your physique, and you gotta blow the right judges.... :-\
As far as the Fat Fuck can't compete....what about that Daly guy? He's a fuck fuck. Coach, I get that you really enjoy Golfing, and no, it's not easy. That doesn't make it a sport. A fun, challenging hobby, pastime, competition? Sure.
I agree, Daly is one of the very very few on tour that is that far out of shape. But Daly has been playing golf almost all of his life, the dude has so much un-tapped potential to win (probably more than anyone on tour) it's rediculous. As far as it being a sport? it most definatly is, tell me where it isn't.
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i'd luv to play golf, but its so f..ing expensive...:(
Depends, I spend probably less than a $150 a month and I play once per week and thats for me and my son.
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Do you ever drink Arnold Palmers Coach?
Man those are delicious after a round of Golf. 8)
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Do you ever drink Arnold Palmers Coach?
Man those are delicious after a round of Golf. 8)
Lemonaid and Ice tea.........good stuff 8)
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Swinging a metal rod does not require any great degree of physical exertion that is why any fat and or out of shape can "play" and actually "compete". They can be alcoholics, obese and even chain smoke if they like. Sorry, but anyone who can be called a world champion at something like this and fit into that catagory is not an athlete. Calling golf a sport is a stretch , but by the purest definition of the word sport it is and so is bodybuilding.
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I love golf
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Depends, I spend probably less than a $150 a month and I play once per week and thats for me and my son.
what about clubs, balls, and so on?
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I agree, Daly is one of the very very few on tour that is that far out of shape. But Daly has been playing golf almost all of his life, the dude has so much un-tapped potential to win (probably more than anyone on tour) it's rediculous. As far as it being a sport? it most definatly is, tell me where it isn't.
I've told you where it isn't. It REQUIRES ZERO ATHLETIC ABILITY. THUS VIRTUALLY ANYONE CAN DO IT.
I find it funny, that you can say that comp. bbing is not a sport (I agree, btw), but something like Golf (which also requires no athletic ability), is one in your eyes.
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Swinging a metal rod does not require any great degree of physical exertion that is why any fat and or out of shape can "play" and actually "compete". They can be alcoholics, obese and even chain smoke if they like. Sorry, but anyone who can be called a world champion at something like this and fit into that catagory is not an athlete. Calling golf a sport is a stretch , but by the purest definition of the word sport it is and so is bodybuilding.
Well said. Although neither Golf or Comp. BBing is a sport. Competitions, hobbies, pastimes, (and in bbing's case) a pageant.
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Swinging a metal rod does not require any great degree of physical exertion that is why any fat and or out of shape can "play" and actually "compete". They can be alcoholics, obese and even chain smoke if they like. Sorry, but anyone who can be called a world champion at something like this and fit into that catagory is not an athlete. Calling golf a sport is a stretch , but by the purest definition of the word sport it is and so is bodybuilding.
So golf is a sport but golfers are not athletes. They are just patrons of the sport
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So golf is a sport but golfers are not athletes. They are just patrons of the sport
I'm not saying that golf is a sport, but if you look up the definition in the dictionary it fits into the definition of one, but so does BB.
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Swinging a metal rod does not require any great degree of physical exertion that is why any fat and or out of shape can "play" and actually "compete". They can be alcoholics, obese and even chain smoke if they like. Sorry, but anyone who can be called a world champion at something like this and fit into that catagory is not an athlete. Calling golf a sport is a stretch , but by the purest definition of the word sport it is and so is bodybuilding.
No, but it requires a great deal of skill. The golfers of today are much better than they were 20 or 25 years ago simply because 90% of them understand why it's so important to be physically strong and better conditioned. They have trainers, Chiros, physical therapists and massage therapists that tour with them. IMO, it's one of the most difficult sports because pros are playing for millions, the mental stress alone would make the normal person crack. Make the cut and place last every week and your damn near rich.
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I'm not saying that golf is a sport, but if you look up the definition in the dictionary it fits into the definition of one, but so does BB.
If bodybuilding does, so does the Miss America pageant. ::)
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what about clubs, balls, and so on?
Yeah, the initial start up is expensive, maybe around $1200 for a decent set, but you can get good used clubs for about 3-400.00 driver $200, putter $100 or so and about 20.00 for a dozen decent balls.
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Well said. Although neither Golf or Comp. BBing is a sport. Competitions, hobbies, pastimes, (and in bbing's case) a pageant.
BB is a funny one to explain. What these guys do requires a great degree of athletic ability which includes obviously lifting weights, and generally doing some type of cardio regime. There heart rate and BP are generally good and have very good stamina. Now, I'm not saying all of them do, but try and put any golfer in the gym to duplicate what bodybuilders do and worst case scenario would be a heart attack and the very least they would not come close to finishing the workout. Anyone shy of being paralyzed and in congestive heart failure can "play" golf. They may not due well, but they can duplicate the movements. The end result of a bodybuilding show I agree does not require any type of athletic ability although it does require flexibility.
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If bodybuilding does, so does the Miss America pageant. ::)
Then go roll your eyes at Webster not me. >:(
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Then go roll your eyes at Webster not me. >:(
Okay, Earl. ::)
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Okay, Earl. ::)
Isn't he yor gay friend that you always get into lovers quarrels with? ::)
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Then go roll your eyes at Webster not me. >:(
Why the hell would he do that?
(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/emmanuel-lewis-spring-2003-wb-winter-press-tour-party-1hg8lz.jpg)
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Why the hell would he do that?
(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/emmanuel-lewis-spring-2003-wb-winter-press-tour-party-1hg8lz.jpg)
;D
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Oh.......it's definately a sport;
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This thread needs some dancing Indian midgets to make it cool like the other thread!
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No, but it requires a great deal of skill. The golfers of today are much better than they were 20 or 25 years ago simply because 90% of them understand why it's so important to be physically strong and better conditioned. They have trainers, Chiros, physical therapists and massage therapists that tour with them. IMO, it's one of the most difficult sports because pros are playing for millions, the mental stress alone would make the normal person crack. Make the cut and place last every week and your damn near rich.
A lot of things require skill, but that does not make you an athlete. Also, why is it important to be in better condition today for golf and how does that equate to being better golfer?
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This thread needs some dancing Indian midgets to make it cool like the other thread!
Done
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A lot of things require skill, but that does not make you an athlete. Also, why is it important to be in better condition today for golf and how does that equate to being better golfer?
Technology of equipment is alot more advanced that it used to be, 20-25 years ago the average driving distance was about 240-260 yards on tour, 240-260 is what the average 16 handicapper is hitting now on any course around. ame with Irons. That being said, courses have to be designed to be longer, about 1500 yards longer. Long story short, you have to be (or should be in better shape and better conditioned). Take a look at that video of Tiger Woods I just posted. He walked a 7000 yard course up and down hills for 5 days (91 holes) on a torn ACL. How many bodybuilders have backed out of a show for one rediculous reason or another? Most people (professional athletes and anylists) have said that is probably one of the greatest wins in sports history because of what Tiger had to endure walking 91 holes and winning a major on a torn ACL.
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Technology of equipment is alot more advanced that it used to be, 20-25 years ago the average driving distance was about 240-260 yards on tour, 240-260 is what the average 16 handicapper is hitting now on any course around. ame with Irons. That being said, courses have to be designed to be longer, about 1500 yards longer. Long story short, you have to be (or should be in better shape and better conditioned). Take a look at that video of Tiger Woods I just posted. He walked a 7000 yard course up and down hills for 5 days on a torn ACL. How many bodybuilders have backed out of a show for one rediculous reason or another?
I would think the fact that the technology of the equipment being better would mean that a golfer would need less skill or at least less strength, kind like a powerlifter using a bench shirt. Oh, a few year back the mail lady was walking around (13 miles daily) with a torn ACL and didn't know it for weeks so I am not sure what you mean by the Tiger story, but motivation is a hell of a thing like winning millions and losing your job.
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Golf = a nice sport. Nice scenery, great athletes and more.
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I would think the fact that the technology of the equipment being better would mean that a golfer would need less skill or at least less strength, kind like a powerlifter using a bench shirt.
No, because the courses get harder. Most of the fairways on a PGA tournament course are anywhere from 15-20 yards wide.
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No, because the courses get harder. Most of the fairways on a PGA tournament course are anywhere from 15-20 yards wide.
I am still not sure what you mean? Let me ask you this, what clubs are better to play with as far as how far you can drive, todays clubs or ones from 25 years ago?
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Take a look at that video of Tiger Woods I just posted. He walked a 7000 yard course up and down hills for 5 days (91 holes) on a torn ACL.
Hell, the average fat housewife with plantar warts walked more than while doing their Christmas shopping. ;D
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The level of ability (or athleticism) on tour is incredible. My brother is a +4 or 5 handicap and is trying to make it professionally right now. Even he is finding it difficult.
What's your handicap Coach? Where do you play out of? Must be far south to be playing this time of year.
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I didn't mind golf too much until last year while living on a golf course getting my sunroom shattered by fat jews smoking cigars and drunk out of their minds...looking for their "balls" on my yard... I have pretty cool altercations footage... Huge Celtic blond haired dude VS Taylormade fatso running for his cart and clubs... and life..
BOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (shit course shown)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/FinalCountdown_Feb1.jpg)
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I didn't mind golf too much until last year while living on a golf course getting my sunroom shattered by fat jews smoking cigars and drunk out of their minds...looking for their "balls" on my yard... I have pretty cool altercations footage... Huge Celtic blond haired dude VS Taylormade fatso running for his cart and clubs... and life..
BOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (shit course shown)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/FinalCountdown_Feb1.jpg)
Brutal under armour skullcap.
Did u have your tapout tighty whities on underneath?
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Im a pretty easy going, mellow guy, but fuck, when i play golf i get possessed and go ballistic. I'm an ok golfer, but as soon as i do a bad shot im throwing clubs and smashing the ground. ;D
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Brutal under armour skullcap.
Did u have your tapout tighty whities on underneath?
I dunno I was too busy checking out my arms the size of your puny legs.
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I dunno I was too busy checking out my arms the size of your puny legs.
Huh???
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That is a solid white man right there. 8)
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Huh???
stfu dietboy... go ask disgusted if he thinks it's ok next time you're about to click "post" ::) all 160lb of yours cruising into bodybuiding "nean"....
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stfu dietboy... go ask disgusted if he thinks it's ok next time you're about to clock "post" ::) all 160lb of yours cruising into bodybuiding nean....
epic
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Skill=good technique=good hand eye coordination, good motoric control, good encoding, storage and retrieval of motor programs.
at least the motoric (muscle) control is part of athletic ability.
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Another great sport!
(http://www.afab.nl/grfx/darten/barney.jpg)
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The level of ability (or athleticism) on tour is incredible. My brother is a +4 or 5 handicap and is trying to make it professionally right now. Even he is finding it difficult.
What's your handicap Coach? Where do you play out of? Must be far south to be playing this time of year.
What he's trying to do is the hardest part.it's way easier to take a 20 handicap and make him a 5 then it is to make 4 or 5 a scratch or better.
...good luck to him. :)
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The level of ability (or athleticism) on tour is incredible. My brother is a +4 or 5 handicap and is trying to make it professionally right now. Even he is finding it difficult.
What's your handicap Coach? Where do you play out of? Must be far south to be playing this time of year.
I have an index of 10.2 but usually play a higher. I play out of Huntington Beach and around So. Cal.
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Ladies Golf Rules. ;D
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Why is she kissing a dildo on the golf course? ???
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I don't train like a bodybuilder. I use little compound exercises and my flexibility is pretty good for someone my age height.
Fixed.
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Why is she kissing a dildo on the golf course? ???
Especially when she has a good stroke. :D
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golf was invented in puerto rico c. 1953
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Huh?
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Huh?
Do your history "coach"
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I have.
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I'm a decent hacker. 8)
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I have.
Well if you did. You would see it was invented by a guy that goes by "Pedro" in 1953...In San Juan Puerto Rico...duhhh
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If bodybuilding does, so does the Miss America pageant. ::)
Calling a bodybuilding show a beauty pageant is pretty gay. I personally do not find these guys beautiful in any manner. Leaving your gayness out of it, ;D one still cannot compare a BB show to a beauty pageant. What these guys present on stage is the final result of years of hard training and dieting. What a woman presents on stage at the Miss America is nothing more than what she was born with. It requires her to do nothing!!!
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Calling a bodybuilding show a beauty pageant is pretty gay. I personally do not find these guys beautiful in any manner. Leaving your gayness out of it, ;D one still cannot compare a BB show to a beauty pageant. What these guys present on stage is the final result of years of hard training and dieting. What a woman presents on stage at the Miss America is nothing more than what she was born with. It requires her to do nothing!!!
That's a very ignorant view. It certainly requires a lot more than you're giving them credit for. They also diet, practice posing, train, tan. It's like women's bbing, without the excessive drug use, and without the penorises. Ironically, it is very similar to the pageant you train people for. Yet, they don't do much of anything in your view.
And nobody said comp. bbing is easy. It's just that the act of oiling up, and posing for a crowd men while wearing tiny trunks is gay. Really, no different than any other pageant, only targeted to gay men.
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I don't understand why this is so hard to accept or comprehend....
Golf and comp. bbing do not require athleticism. They can both be performed by virtually anyone, young, old, fat and skinny alike.
They both require some sort of skill, and both are difficult, no doubt. Both require years of training, and preparation (at higher levels). But that makes neither a sport.
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Gordiano, I know your going to laugh or roll your eyes, but a precise swing with perfect form doing it hundreds of times per round is an athletic move.
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That's a very ignorant view. It certainly requires a lot more than you're giving them credit for. They also diet, practice posing, train, tan. It's like women's bbing, without the excessive drug use, and without the penorises. Ironically, it is very similar to the pageant you train people for. Yet, they don't do much of anything in your view.
And nobody said comp. bbing is easy. It's just that the act of oiling up, and posing for a crowd men while wearing tiny trunks is gay. Really, no different than any other pageant, only targeted to gay men.
Not ignorant at all. Regardless of what these woman do on stage you will never see an ugly Miss America. All the other stuff is just is added in just to make it look legit. As far as BB being targeted towards gay men, well sounds like you have some personal demons you need to deal with.
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Not ignorant at all. Regardless of what these woman do on stage you will never see an ugly Miss America. All the other stuff is just is added in just to make it look legit. As far as BB being targeted towards gay men, well sounds like you have some personal demons you need to deal with.
hahaha ;D
anyways golf is a sport, just like bodybuilding
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Yet another golfer prez:
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Gordiano, I know your going to laugh or roll your eyes, but a precise swing with perfect form doing it hundreds of times per round is an athletic move.
;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::)
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golf is a great sport
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01lE7u128A3gW/610x.jpg)
something to enjoy when you are a bit older
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I don't understand why this is so hard to accept or comprehend....
Golf and comp. bbing do not require athleticism. They can both be performed by virtually anyone, young, old, fat and skinny alike.
They both require some sort of skill, and both are difficult, no doubt. Both require years of training, and preparation (at higher levels). But that makes neither a sport.
You're making yourself sound foolish....anyone on the earth can also play basketball, baseball, etc
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To be a good or great golfer does take athleticism. I have seen many people on the golf course having a hell of a time hitting the ball off the tee. Swinging at nothing but air. Putting and the short game take much skill and practice to become very good at it. And it takes skill and practice to constantly stay in the fairway. Just because Daly is out of shape doesn't mean he is not athletic. He is still one of the top 150 players in the world. He still can beat 99.9 percent of the population for 18 holes. And the tour is grueling. Try hitting 300 balls a day at the range, travel, play practice rounds on Tuesday, pro ams on Wednesday, followed by 4 straight days of 18 holes of competitive golf just to start all over again on Monday. Not to mention the time spent out fullfilling their sponsorships. Babe Ruth was fat most of his career, drunk before and after, and sometimes during, eating hot dogs during the game and blasting home run after home run. He was a natural athlete. The average human being could not go out and hit 50 home runs in a full season. Let alone try to hit a 95 mph fastball! Or even play 162 games in a season.