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RUSH: I love this Blago story. Blago sticking it to the Democrats in Washington and sticking it to The One, The Messiah, the Most Merciful, Barack Obama. This Roland Burris guy holding a press conference now saying, "Hey, I'm going, Illinois needs full representation." As I said earlier today, Mr. Burris, if Harry Reid will not seat you, go to Denny's. They will seat you if Harry Reid will not. Try this. Harry Reid calls Blagojevich, and Blagojevich then spills the beans, and Harry Reid is now calling Blagojevich a liar, so is Dick Durbin. Reid calls Blagojevich, says, (paraphrasing) "I don't want Burris, I don't want Jesse Jackson Jr. and I don't want Emil Jones," the godfather of Obama. They all happen to be black. This is a seat occupied by a black, Obama, although an inauthentic black, according to David Ehrenstein of the Los Angeles Times and others. And so Dingy Harry says, "I don't want these three guys." If a Republican called a governor and said, "Don't give me three people who are black," can you imagine? I want Tammy Duckworth or I want Lisa Madigan, I want a white woman in there, said Dingy Harry. And Dingy Harry made a ridiculous, humorous attempt to show that he's not racist on Meet the Press yesterday by saying, (paraphrasing) "Hey, I searched high and low to find a black woman to make a federal judge," and he lied about that.
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RUSH: Caroline Kennedy looks like she's going to be appointed to the Senate by the unelected governor of New York -- and they say Bush was not legitimate. (laughing) You know, maybe this Burris guy, who was appointed by Blago, should just change his name to Kennedy, Roland Kennedy. You know, folks, where is the indictment of Blago? Where are the charges from the US attorney's office in Chicago? Remember, ladies and gentlemen, I, again, as always, was the first to ask, why in the world would the US attorney stop the investigation at a point in time where not everybody involved had been snared? Why stop the investigation before Blago had actually sold the Senate seat? Why do that? And that question, ladies and gentlemen, is now beginning to surface, sparingly, but nevertheless surface on some cable shows. Why was this investigation stopped in the first place? Where is the indictment? Where are the charges against Blagojevich? Seems like the US attorney's leaving it up to the Illinois legislature to impeach the poor guy, who was simply following in the great Chicago tradition. His only mistake was getting caught. That's why ethics education for state employees gets underway tomorrow in Illinois to teach them how not to get caught when they engage in the Chicago way.
The US attorney for Chicago said that charges for Blago may not be for 60 days or so, and so people are beginning to ask, "Where are the charges?" Some people beginning to ask where are the charges are beginning to say, "Where is the evidence he did anything wrong?" He didn't actually sell the seat because they stopped him in the process. And now I love the fact that he's sticking it, Blago is, to Harry Reid and Obama by nominating this Burris guy, who isn't going to go away. Burris, he's going to try to get seated. Harry Reid says he's not going to seat him, sergeant-at-arms going to try to keep him out of there. This is Democrats denying a black man duly appointed by a sitting governor in the state of Illinois, a seat in the United States Senate. Once again it's Democrats engaging in blatant racism. Wall Street Journal, a great editorial on January 3rd entitled: "'Harry Reid vs. The Constitution.' If Roland Burris isn't fit for the Senate, how is Chris Dodd?" Excellent question. If Roland Burris isn't fit, how is Chris Dodd fit for the Senate? I love that question.
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Here's Roland Burris, who ought to change his name to Kennedy. This afternoon at his press conference, unidentified reporter says, "Why would you want to be associated with Governor Blagojevich? I mean, he's tainted."
BURRIS: Am I tainted?
REPORTER: Well, but he did appoint you.
BURRIS: So? He signed some bills. Are those bills he signed illegal?
REPORTER: We don't know.
BURRIS: What do you mean, you don't know? You don't want to know because you don't want to know the answer because it keeps you working.
RUSH: This guy is firing back at these people, "What do you mean you don't know? You don't want to know because you don't want to know the answer because it keeps you working." Wow. Roland Burris firing both barrels at a Drive-By reporterette. "I mean, he's tainted." "Am I tainted?" "Well, but he did appoint you." "So?" Another reporter then said, "Does it bother you the fact that Illinois's become sort of a laughingstock of the nation, does it bother you at all?"
BURRIS: That's because of the -- all the media stories.
REPORTER: What do you rate your chances tomorrow of being seated?
BURRIS: We'll see --
REPORTER: Do you think they're 50/50? I mean 100%?
BURRIS: We'll see. We'll see. I don't want to put a rating -- I don't want to put a rating on that. We'll see.
REPORTER: You do expect tomorrow --
BURRIS: I -- I am going there to be seated. I am the junior Senator from the state of Illinois.
RUSH: Roland Burris. He is. He's been appointed by a sitting governor, Rod "Blago" Blagojevich, and Dingy Harry is going to try to keep him out of there. It is a black man seeking the most he can be, and he didn't do anything wrong, at least not by Chicago standards. You gotta figure any Democrat that gets elected in Chicago has some taint, but I mean in Illinois it's not really a taint, it's a badge of honor. The problem is you get caught, that's Blago's problem. I hope they try to destroy this guy. I really hope they try to keep him out. I've heard that Harry Reid, the sergeant-of-arms might even be armed, you know, if they have to.
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RUSH: Charles in Oswego, Illinois, you're next on the Rush Limbaugh program, sir. It's great to have you here.
CALLER: Hey, Rush. Mega first-time dittos from hopefully what will continue to be the Land of Lincoln, at least for a while.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: First, I just want to say two quick things. I just wanted to say God bless you for that last hour, what you said in the last hour about us standing up. And, you know, something that needed to be said, but seems to be sometimes you're the only one who says it.
RUSH: Not sometimes.
CALLER: Well, all the time. Okay. (laughs) I was listening to your show today, and during the news they were talking about how our lieutenant governor was saying he was going to put a committee together to see how he could get rid of the corruption in Illinois, and it just kind of struck me. A thought came that, "Why don't we just put some politicians in there who aren't crooks?" The Democrats seem to always have the answer of more laws and more government.
RUSH: That's an excellent question. I take you back. This is the hubris and the arrogance of elected officials. Let me take you back to John McCain. John McCain said, "We need campaign finance reform because the system and money were corrupting good people," and of course it's the other way around. Money is not the root of all evil. It is, in fact, just the opposite. The system is fine. It is corrupt people who corrupt it.
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RUSH: Dingy Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, said that the appointment of Roland Burris by Blagojevich means that Burris himself is "tainted" because of Blagojevich being tainted. Now, if that's true, how is it that Barack Obama is not tainted by Tony Rezko? Tony Rezko has been convicted. If Burris is tainted by Blagojevich -- who hasn't been charged with anything yet, by the way -- then why, ladies and gentlemen, was Obama not tainted by Blago? Why was Obama not tainted by Jeremiah Wright?
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RUSH: Okay, folks, just announced here -- I think it was just announced -- it might have been last week, but Pat Fitzgerald has been granted permission by a US judge to extend the deadline to indict Blago from January 7th -- a couple days from now -- to April the 7th. My friends, you're going to have to learn to laugh at this stuff for a time, anyway. I don't know how long, but please trust me on this. You're going to have to laugh. You're going to have to be able to accept the fact that truth right now doesn't matter, that the American people, enough of them, want to be lied to. Look at them as your kids. Your kids don't want to hear bad news. The economy is bad, think back to Christmas. Did you tell them how bad it was going to be and that the presents might not be as plentiful, or did you lie to them? They don't want to hear the bad news. The American people don't want to hear it. It's bad enough news, they want to hear lies, right now.
Truth is not a factor in defeating Obama right now, just isn't. I'll let you know when truth surfaces again and matters. Now, it matters to you and me. We will be truthful on this program. Don't misunderstand me. I'm talking about in terms of the persuasion of that portion of the electorate that elected The One. It will be fun to watch the dawn rise and reality slap 'em in the ass and the face at the same time and send 'em to the bathroom with diarrhea and a bloody nose. But until such time we're going to have to learn to laugh at this.
Dave in Lake Heron, New Mexico. I've got about 30 seconds here, but I wanted to get you since you've been holding a long time.
CALLER: Hello, Rush. It's been over 20 years I've been listening to you.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: I recently moved from California to New Mexico. As bad as California is, New Mexico is even worse. It didn't surprise me what Richardson did pulling his name out of the hat. Would a state that has the leader of the Senate being prosecuted for corruption, two treasurers being sent up --
RUSH: None of this matters --
CALLER: -- at the same time.
RUSH: -- it doesn't matter. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Let it happen, but it's not going to change anybody's mind. Don't get your hopes up on this stuff mattering. The Democrat Party right now can do no wrong.
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Wow... Rush is quite the drama queen.
He's silent about being wrong on WMD.
He's silent about not catching Bin Laden.
yet he's "up in arms" because the Dems are rightfully keeping a tainted idiot out of the senate.
I think even the hardcore repubs here have to laugh at what small petty things Rush is bitching about. They're depriving themselves of a Senate vote.
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Wow... Rush is quite the drama queen.
He's silent about being wrong on WMD.
He's silent about not catching Bin Laden.
yet he's "up in arms" because the Dems are rightfully keeping a tainted idiot out of the senate.
I think even the hardcore repubs here have to laugh at what small petty things Rush is bitching about. They're depriving themselves of a Senate vote.
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Epic thread backfire here.
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Epic thread backfire here.
Word.
Rush would also be "up in arms" if the Dems WERE certifying the guy today.
He's going to bitch about anything. You can do no right with a guy like Rush.
The Dems are kicking out Blaggo. The Dems are denying the Blago apointee.
They're actually doing everything RIGHT here to keep the scumbags out.
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Yeah, you know how it is with conservatives.... once someone gets tainted they really kick them out huh. Like Delay, Ney, Stevens, Allen, Craig, etc....
The constant sound of the gnashing of teeth from the repubs makes for a sweet background to listen to during my morning coffee.
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LNM, your responding to 240 as if he were a liberal..Mmmmmmmm!
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Personally, I like Savage, Beck, Sliwa, Gambling, Batchelor, all better than Rush & Hannity.
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Honestly Coach, I can't see what is so wrong with the Democrats going after Blagojevich. ???
Would you rather see the Democrats allow a corrupt politician stay in power and use it to appoint the senate seat?
I don't understand your angle here to be honest.
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Personally, I like Sliwa, Gambling, Batchelor, all better than Rush & Hannity Savage, Beck, .
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Ha Ha, how is our girl Delotta doing?
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Ha Ha, how is our girl Delotta doing?
still whacking away on her pictures
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still whacking away on her pictures
Ha ha. There are many good free sites with her movies out there.
To me, that girl got serious assets!!!
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Honestly Coach, I can't see what is so wrong with the Democrats going after Blagojevich. ???
Would you rather see the Democrats allow a corrupt politician stay in power and use it to appoint the senate seat?
I don't understand your angle here to be honest.
I case you haven't been paying attention, seems 90% of the dems are corrupt especially the ones coming out of Illinois. Read the highlighted in the transcript I posted and tell me it doesn't make sense.
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I case you haven't been paying attention, seems 90% of the dems are corrupt especially the ones coming out of Illinois. Read the highlighted in the transcript I posted and tell me it doesn't make sense.
RUSH: Dingy Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, said that the appointment of Roland Burris by Blagojevich means that Burris himself is "tainted" because of Blagojevich being tainted. Now, if that's true, how is it that Barack Obama is not tainted by Tony Rezko? Tony Rezko has been convicted. If Burris is tainted by Blagojevich -- who hasn't been charged with anything yet, by the way -- then why, ladies and gentlemen, was Obama not tainted by Blago? Why was Obama not tainted by Jeremiah Wright?
Ok.
It doesn't make sense.
And here is why.
Since Blagojevich appointment process can be questioned, anyone who he names will be "tainted" by whatever Blagojevich did.
Roland Burris may or may not be a good senator. I have no idea.
He could've very well have won the seat anyway, considering he was runner up for the governorship back in 2002.
But it is not for Blagojevich to decide. That is what it all boils down to.
Obama may or may not be tainted by Rezko, Blagojevich and Wright. But the difference is that they are not appointing him to the presidency. It's a different issue. Important to discuss, but not related.
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Obama is clean in all of this, and you're shitting on him because he's shitting on a corrupt guy like Blaggo.
if he was in bed with him, then by all means shit on him.
But Blaggo himself said Obama was a MFer who woudln't play ball.
Obama has called for Blaggo's resignation, and said that anyone he sent up isn't eligible.
Face it, Obama is doing everything RIGHT here. And you're still mad at him because, well, Rush is.
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RUSH: Dingy Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, said that the appointment of Roland Burris by Blagojevich means that Burris himself is "tainted" because of Blagojevich being tainted. Now, if that's true, how is it that Barack Obama is not tainted by Tony Rezko? Tony Rezko has been convicted. If Burris is tainted by Blagojevich -- who hasn't been charged with anything yet, by the way -- then why, ladies and gentlemen, was Obama not tainted by Blago? Why was Obama not tainted by Jeremiah Wright?
Ok.
It doesn't make sense.
And here is why.
Since Blagojevich appointment process can be questioned, anyone who he names will be "tainted" by whatever Blagojevich did.
Roland Burris may or may not be a good senator. I have no idea.
He could've very well have won the seat anyway, considering he was runner up for the governorship back in 2002.
But it is not for Blagojevich to decide. That is what it all boils down to.
Obama may or may not be tainted by Rezko, Blagojevich and Wright. But the difference is that they are not appointing him to the presidency. It's a different issue. Important to discuss, but not related.
Actually, Blago did follow things by the letter of the law and Burress should be seated.
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Actually, Blago did follow things by the letter of the law and Burress should be seated.
What would you think if Blagojevich is unseated by the Democrats in Illinois and the Senate won't accept Burris?
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What would you think if Blagojevich is unseated by the Democrats in Illinois and the Senate won't accept Burris?
The Dems have had enough ttime to impeach him, but right now, Blago is not convicted of any crime or even indicted for that matter. Blago is still the legal Gov. and has the legal athurotiy to appoint a Senator.
Reid & Pelosi are a disgrace.
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The Dems have had enough ttime to impeach him, but right now, Blago is not convicted of any crime or even indicted for that matter. Blago is still the legal Gov. and has the legal athurotiy to appoint a Senator.
Reid & Pelosi are a disgrace.
I can understand that you think that Reid and Pelosi are a disgrace. However, Pelosi have absolutely nothing to do with this.
As far as Reid, he seems to think that Blagojevich should be unseated. Due to how Blagojevitch tried to sell the the senator seat to the highest bidder.
Do you agree with Reid or do you think Blagojevitch should be allowed to stay as a Governor?
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I case you haven't been paying attention, seems 90% of the dems are corrupt especially the ones coming out of Illinois. Read the highlighted in the transcript I posted and tell me it doesn't make sense.
very broad statement...needs backing...tell you what...first specify who you are talking about, senate, house, state level...that first...then take a total population and then if its 100 of them...im gonna need you to find cases on 90 of them...can you do that?
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I can understand that you think that Reid and Pelosi are a disgrace. However, Pelosi have absolutely nothing to do with this.
As far as Reid, he seems to think that Blagojevich should be unseated. Due to how Blagojevitch tried to sell the the senator seat to the highest bidder.
Do you agree with Reid or do you think Blagojevitch should be allowed to stay as a Governor?
Reid has no authority over how IL runs its affairs.
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Reid has no authority over how IL runs its affairs.
True.
But he thinks Blagojevitch needs to go.
Do you agree with Reid or do you think Blagojevitch can stay in power despite trying to sell the senate seat?
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This appointing bullshit has to go. There should have been an election.
Also, why is the federal prosecutor waiting so damn long to indite Blago?
You can't really fault Burris, I don't know if he's any good or not, but it shouldn't have been placed in Blago's hands to decide.
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This appointing bullshit has to go. There should have been an election.
Also, why is the federal prosecutor waiting so damn long to indite Blago?
You can't really fault Burris, I don't know if he's any good or not, but it shouldn't have been placed in Blago's hands to decide.
Finally a voice of reason!
I don't understand guys like Limbaugh who critisises the Democrats for taking care of their dirty laundry.
Shouldn't that be applauded, if anything? ???
Regardless of party affiliation, when there's a little moral fortitude I think that's actually a little refreshing.
In this case, the Democrats probably had little choice, considering claiming to having much higher morals and shit.
Important thing is that corrupt politicians like Blagojevich gets their asses handed to them.
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Obama is clean in all of this, and you're shitting on him because he's shitting on a corrupt guy like Blaggo.
if he was in bed with him, then by all means shit on him.
But Blaggo himself said Obama was a MFer who woudln't play ball.
Obama has called for Blaggo's resignation, and said that anyone he sent up isn't eligible.
Face it, Obama is doing everything RIGHT here. And you're still mad at him because, well, Rush is.
Not saying Obama isn't clean in this, I'm saying that Obama had "tainted" ties that were actually indited yet the press didn't want to address that, yet Reid rejects the appointment just because he thinks the appointee is tainted. The appointee, is more qualified than Obama.
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Not saying Obama isn't clean in this, I'm saying that Obama had "tainted" ties that were actually indited yet the press didn't want to address that, yet Reid rejects the appointment just because he thinks the appointee is tainted. The appointee, is more qualified than Obama.
What so wrong with trying to get rid of someone in their party(Blagojevich) who's a crook that tried to sell off the senate seat?
That's what I cannot understand.
If the Democrats would not have gone after Blagojevich, I would have expected and supported Limbaugh bashing the Democrats.
But when they actually clean their dirty laundry? Why is that a problem?
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True.
But he thinks Blagojevitch needs to go.
Do you agree with Reid or do you think Blagojevitch can stay in power despite trying to sell the senate seat?
There is a process to follow set out bu the IL constitution. That is what should be followed.
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The whole think stinks. This guy not only nominated someone after being arrested for trying to sell the seat, he picked someone who donated to his campaign. There has to be something they (Illinois or U.S. Senate) can do.
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The whole think stinks. This guy not only nominated someone after being arrested for trying to sell the seat, he picked someone who donated to his campaign. There has to be something they (Illinois or U.S. Senate) can do.
The IL Senate could impeach Blago and have the Lt. Gov. appoint someone. They did not do it and Blago is still the legally elected Gov.. He has not been indicted or convicted of anything and has the legal authority to appoint a Senator.
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The IL Senate could impeach Blago and have the Lt. Gov. appoint someone. They did not do it and Blago is still the legally elected Gov.. He has not been indicted or convicted of anything and has the legal authority to appoint a Senator.
Perhaps. But we're also talking common sense and the "spirit" of the law. I don't think a government official who has been arrested for trying to sell a seat should appoint someone to that seat with a cloud hanging over his head, least of all someone who contributed to this campaign. This guy is a crook.
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The IL Senate could impeach Blago and have the Lt. Gov. appoint someone. They did not do it and Blago is still the legally elected Gov.. He has not been indicted or convicted of anything and has the legal authority to appoint a Senator.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/madigan-possible-impeachment-vote-next-week.html
Blagojevich is getting closer to impeachment.
So I take it that you support Blagojevich as a Governor as long as he's not convicted of anything?
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/madigan-possible-impeachment-vote-next-week.html
Blagojevich is getting closer to impeachment.
So I take it that you support Blagojevich as a Governor as long as he's not convicted of anything?
I support a food fight amongst the democrats to see who is the most corrupt of the bunch. Seeing Reid, Blago, et al, its a tough fight.
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I support a food fight amongst the democrats to see who is the most corrupt of the bunch. Seeing Reid, Blago, et al, its a tough fight.
Interesting.
How is Reid corrupt?
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Interesting.
How is Reid corrupt?
I wouldn't necessarily call him corrupt. Moron, but not corrupt.
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I wouldn't necessarily call him corrupt. Moron, but not corrupt.
Maybe not the sharpest knife in the toolbox, no.
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Interesting.
How is Reid corrupt?
Oh no????? Read about his ties to the Mob and the casinos in vegas and come talk to me.
He is like Senator Geary from Godfather Part 2.
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Oh no????? Read about his ties to the Mob and the casinos in vegas and come talk to me.
He is like Senator Geary from Godfather Part 2.
I don't know.
Seems like some people thinks he's "Mister Clean" and a few think he's dirty as hell.
I know too little about him to be a good judge to be honest.
Are you sure about this one?
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I don't know.
Seems like some people thinks he's "Mister Clean" and a few think he's dirty as hell.
I know too little about him to be a good judge to be honest.
Are you sure about this one?
Do your own research about Harry reid and his land deals he failed to disclose.
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Do your own research about Harry reid and his land deals he failed to disclose.
I did read about it.
I can't say I'm convinced either way. Because some sources says he's innocent and that he's actually someone who was cleaning up in Las Vegas. Then some others says he just got off because he was connected pretty much.
So I wonder if you really are sure about this one?
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I did read about it.
I can't say I'm convinced either way. Because some sources says he's innocent and that he's actually someone who was cleaning up in Las Vegas. Then some others says he just got off because he was connected pretty much.
So I wonder if you really are sure about this one?
No one gets to his position without being connected to the "right people."
The same way Obama is not clean as snow either.
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Thank God 4 Rush! Palin 2012!
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No one gets to his position without being connected to the "right people."
The same way Obama is not clean as snow either.
So all politicians, by default, are crooks? What do you base that on?
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I wouldn't necessarily call him corrupt. Moron, but not corrupt.
At least he didn't lose his home state to a comedian...
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HERE'S WHAT IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT
(If given the job) - the Repubs think Burris will run again in 2010, in the next election. He'll lose (he's lost 5 straight primaries) as the state is close and he's a bumbling buffoon of a candidate, let's be honest.
The Dems want someone marginally competent in the job, without a big shitstain on his reputation. Imagine the ads that WILL be running in one year, if Burress is approved . "Burress was appointed by a scandaled man, and his own party didn't want him".
A Buress 2010 Senate run is a wet dream for repubs. THIS is why Rush is so critical of Dems for bouncing this joker. Of COURSE you'd want your rival party filling a seat for 1 year with a stained clod who can't win an election.
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At least he didn't lose steal his home state to a comedian...
Fixed (like Frankins win)
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Fixed (like Frankins win)
Please present your evidence that it was fixed.
Right now, you have a conspiracy theory, Joe.
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So all politicians, by default, are crooks? What do you base that on?
At least 90% are.
I base that on my personally tying to get involved in the NYS Young Republicans years ago. I left because the corruption is so bad, on both sides, that any decent person either leaves or becomes corrupt.
I base it on how the campaign finance system allows politicians to use campaign funds for personal usage.
Just look at Charlie Rangle - where to begin with that one?
He is just the tip of the ice berg.
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Blago needs to be indited and impeached ASAP. Buress needs to be put through because it sounds like his appointment was legal, the dems are right to be upset about the nomination because it looks bad comming from Blago, and 240 has a good point on the repub side.
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Blago needs to be indited and impeached ASAP. Buress needs to be put through because it sounds like his appointment was legal, the dems are right to be upset about the nomination because it looks bad comming from Blago, and 240 has a good point on the repub side.
Regardless, Blago is the legal governor. The Burress appointment was 100% legal and should go through.
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AHHAHAHA at the whining over losing the past election and unable to get a beatable candidate in the seat in hopes of beating 2010.
Pure hypocrisy.
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At least 90% are.
I base that on my personally tying to get involved in the NYS Young Republicans years ago. I left because the corruption is so bad, on both sides, that any decent person either leaves or becomes corrupt.
I would definitely like to hear more about how the political culture were.
From someone who's had experience of it.
Go ahead and make a thread or post about it sometime bro.