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Title: Ray Ray's status
Post by: americanbulldog on January 19, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
Up, has Ray Ray played his last game in a Raven's uniform.  I know he is an UFA, and Suggs is a RFA.  Do the Raven's sign both?  One?  Ray, although making the All Pro team, is 33.  Does he restructure to create cap space for the team? 
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 19, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
Ray Lewis will be signed to a three or four year extension. The local media has reported that owner Steve Bischotti fully intends to bring back Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs.

Suggs is a no-brainer. You simply can't replace his talent in one season. The guy recorded two sacks with basically one arm against the Steelers. He's only 26 and he's already a six year veteran. He will be offered a multi-year contract by training camp.

Lewis is the face of the Baltimore Ravens. Unless Lewis really wants to leave and pursue other options, he will be back in Baltimore. Judging by the success the team enjoyed with first year starter, Joe Flacco, it should be an easy decision to stay. I believe he wants to finish what he started in Baltimore. It's not about the money. He's accomplished everything in his career. He simply wants to play for another chance at the ring. Staying with Baltimore gives him a solid shot at playing for a contender for the next couple of seasons. He still made all-pro at 33 and he's a little slower but you can't replace the leadership, football intelligence, and intangibles he brings. Lewis is truly one of kind and he will continue to play at high level as he enters his mid 30's.

Bart Scott will be the odd man out. He's gone for sure as a free agent.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on January 19, 2009, 02:17:27 PM
Ray Lewis will be signed to a three or four year extension. The local media has reported that owner Steve Bischotti fully intends to bring back Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs.

Suggs is a no-brainer. You simply can't replace his talent in one season. The guy recorded two sacks with basically one arm against the Steelers. He's only 26 and he's already a six year veteran. He will be offered a multi-year contract by training camp.

Lewis is the face of the Baltimore Ravens. Unless Lewis really wants to leave and pursue other options, he will be back in Baltimore. Judging by the success the team enjoyed with first year starter, Joe Flacco, it should be an easy decision to stay. I believe he wants to finish what he started in Baltimore. It's not about the money. He's accomplished everything in his career. He simply wants to play for another chance at the ring. Staying with Baltimore gives him a solid shot at playing for a contender for the next couple of seasons. He still made all-pro at 33 and he's a little slower but you can't replace the leadership, football intelligence, and intangibles he brings. Lewis is truly one of kind and he will continue to play at high level as he enters his mid 30's.

Bart Scott will be the odd man out. He's gone for sure as a free agent.


How many players might follow Rex to NYC?  Rex will blow the Jets up, and cut all those horrible contracts they did last year.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 19, 2009, 02:53:47 PM
it's funny....as I typed that last post, the local Baltimore media reported that Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys is prepared to offer Ray Lewis a 3 year contract worth a GUARANTEED 25 million to play for the Dallas Cowboys. :o :o :o

is that crazy or what? How desperate is Jones to restore that locker room with some much needed leadership?

Can't blame Ray for jumping on that offer but I think it would be a huge mistake joining that circus. I have to think that Ray lewis is a lifetime Raven but you never know....money talks.

Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on January 19, 2009, 03:56:22 PM
it's funny....as I typed that last post, the local Baltimore media reported that Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys is prepared to offer Ray Lewis a 3 year contract worth a GUARANTEED 25 million to play for the Dallas Cowboys. :o :o :o

is that crazy or what? How desperate is Jones to restore that locker room with some much needed leadership?

Can't blame Ray for jumping on that offer but I think it would be a huge mistake joining that circus. I have to think that Ray lewis is a lifetime Raven but you never know....money talks.



Lol at Jones.....poor Cowboys fans. 
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: americanbulldog on January 19, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
Jerry Jones will spoken in the same sentence as Al Davis.  Mark my words.  Can't throw money at your problems.  He needs to step down as GM. 
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on January 19, 2009, 07:12:36 PM
ray told coach tomlin "i would love to play for you"

Mr. Rooney would never take a guy with such poor character

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Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: CalvinH on January 20, 2009, 05:49:04 AM
Jerry Jones will spoken in the same sentence as Al Davis.  Mark my words.  Can't throw money at your problems.  He needs to step down as GM. 




No he doesn't ;)
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on January 20, 2009, 07:09:33 AM
Jones seems to think that inserting Lewis into his locker room will fix all his problems.  You can't buy a locker room hierarchy.  Maybe Jones should try drafting some character guys....some football players who love the game.  Thats why I always smile when the pats take a guy like Login Mankins in the first round.  No one ever projected the guy to go there and he has turned out to be a monster.  Most importantly though, he is a good guy and he loves football.

Jones' coach is to dumb to coach up a player anyway.  If Jones was smart he would go after Gruden or offer Cower something.  Phillips is an idiot.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: CalvinH on January 20, 2009, 07:15:34 AM
Jones seems to think that inserting Lewis into his locker room will fix all his problems.  You can't buy a locker room hierarchy.  Maybe Jones should try drafting some character guys....some football players who love the game.  Thats why I always smile when the pats take a guy like Login Mankins in the first round.  No one ever projected the guy to go there and he has turned out to be a monster.  Most importantly though, he is a good guy and he loves football.

Jones' coach is to dumb to coach up a player anyway.  If Jones was smart he would go after Gruden or offer Cower something.  Phillips is an idiot.






Shhhhhh...I like it that way ;)
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 20, 2009, 08:05:17 AM
ray told coach tomlin "i would love to play for you"

Mr. Rooney would never take a guy with such poor character

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give me an example of poor character. You mean like getting caught driving a car and smoking weed at the same time? That kind of character??

Apparently, Mr. Rooney likes that kind of character on his football team.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on January 20, 2009, 08:42:47 AM
Ray Lewis will be signed to a three or four year extension. The local media has reported that owner Steve Bischotti fully intends to bring back Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs.

Suggs is a no-brainer. You simply can't replace his talent in one season. The guy recorded two sacks with basically one arm against the Steelers. He's only 26 and he's already a six year veteran. He will be offered a multi-year contract by training camp.

Lewis is the face of the Baltimore Ravens. Unless Lewis really wants to leave and pursue other options, he will be back in Baltimore. Judging by the success the team enjoyed with first year starter, Joe Flacco, it should be an easy decision to stay. I believe he wants to finish what he started in Baltimore. It's not about the money. He's accomplished everything in his career. He simply wants to play for another chance at the ring. Staying with Baltimore gives him a solid shot at playing for a contender for the next couple of seasons. He still made all-pro at 33 and he's a little slower but you can't replace the leadership, football intelligence, and intangibles he brings. Lewis is truly one of kind and he will continue to play at high level as he enters his mid 30's.

Bart Scott will be the odd man out. He's gone for sure as a free agent.


QFT....They let go of Lewis or Suggs (the future) they are crazy...will never happen
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 20, 2009, 09:59:37 AM
The Ravens WILL NOT give Ray Lewis a 25 million guaranteed contract for three years. No way.

If Lewis took that offer from the Cowboys, I could hardly blame him. Name another NFL player at almost 34 years old that has ever been given NEW contract with 25 million in guaranteed money. I'm not talking about an extension.

I'm talking a new contract with a new team at that age. Never been done in the NFL, I dont think.

Therefore, It wouldn't surprise me if he left as a free agent. I'm even less surprised that Jerry Jones would offer something like that.

Obviously, I hope he stays a Raven for the rest of his career. I think he has a better chance of playing for a championship for the Ravens then he does with the Cowboys.

Suggs will be re-signed. It's not even an issue.

Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on January 20, 2009, 03:05:11 PM
give me an example of poor character. You mean like getting caught driving a car and smoking weed at the same time? That kind of character??

Apparently, Mr. Rooney likes that kind of character on his football team.

you can't compare that to being involved with a murder ;)

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Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 20, 2009, 06:19:17 PM
you can't compare that to being involved with a murder ;)

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Maybe not. But Lewis didn't kill anybody either.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 21, 2009, 02:10:07 PM

How many players might follow Rex to NYC?  Rex will blow the Jets up, and cut all those horrible contracts they did last year.

Body, would you like to see David Harris get cut from the Jets and be a linebacker on the pats?
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on January 21, 2009, 02:16:18 PM

Maybe not. But Lewis didn't kill anybody either.

if you are friends with murderers you may as well be a murderer

birds of a feather

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Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: americanbulldog on February 11, 2009, 01:14:38 PM
So Bart Scott is done, Ray Ray re signed, and Suggs franchised?  Whats the dealio, Up?
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on February 11, 2009, 01:19:23 PM

Maybe not. But Lewis didn't kill anybody either.
neither did OJ
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on February 11, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
first billick, now possibly ray?

the rivalry is losing some of it's luster :-\

E
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 11, 2009, 02:04:26 PM
neither did OJ

A black guy that thinks OJ didn't kill anybody.

What a shocker!
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 11, 2009, 02:05:46 PM
first billick, now possibly ray?

the rivalry is losing some of it's luster :-\

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What did I miss? Elaborate on Billick and Ray. Been working my ass off so I haven't been able to keep up with the latest.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on February 11, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
A black guy that thinks OJ didn't kill anybody.

What a shocker!

A ravens fan that didnt think murder ray killed anyone. shoking
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 11, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
A ravens fan that didnt think murder ray killed anyone. shoking

He didn't kill anybody. Know your facts before you post stupid shit. He was found guilty of obstruction of justice as part of a plea agreement. Wrong place, wrong time with the wrong kinds of friends.

I will not lie. The truth is that between the ages of 21-25, Ray Lewis was known as a serious douchebag around Baltimore. Going out to clubs wearing chinchilla fur coats, pushing his way through clubs with his entourages, and fucking every white blonde stripper in sight.

That murder case changed everything about him as far as personality, religion, and who he chooses as friends. He was scared straight like you wouldn't believe. Since 2000, Ray Lewis hasn't so much as jaywalked, let alone get any attention from the media about his personal life.

I'm not defending his past. But the bottom line is that he didn't kill anybody or premeditate anything. Just a dumb kid in 2000 hanging with the wrong crowd with an inflated ego.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on February 11, 2009, 02:34:34 PM
He didn't kill anybody. Know your facts before you post stupid shit. He was found guilty of obstruction of justice as part of a plea agreement. Wrong place, wrong time with the wrong kinds of friends.

I will not lie. The truth is that between the ages of 21-25, Ray Lewis was known as a serious douchebag around Baltimore. Going out to clubs wearing chinchilla fur coats, pushing his way through clubs with his entourages, and fucking every white blonde stripper in sight.

That murder case changed everything about him as far as personality, religion, and who he chooses as friends. He was scared straight like you wouldn't believe. Since 2000, Ray Lewis hasn't so much as jaywalked, let alone get any attention from the media about his personal life.

I'm not defending his past. But the bottom line is that he didn't kill anybody or premeditate anything. Just a dumb kid in 2000 hanging with the wrong crowd with an inflated ego.

I used to bang a chick from Baltimore. I think the city was columbia. Also my car broke down on highway 41...pulawski. Very shitty
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 11, 2009, 03:09:20 PM
I used to bang a chick from Baltimore. I think the city was columbia. Also my car broke down on highway 41...pulawski. Very shitty

Nice. Columbia is actually south of Baltimore. Howard county.

Pulaski Highway does suck. There is a pretty good strip club off it though.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on February 11, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
What did I miss? Elaborate on Billick and Ray. Been working my ass off so I haven't been able to keep up with the latest.

i was basically saying that billick and ray made the rivalry more interesting

if they are both gone the rivalry won't seem the same

E
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 11, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
i was basically saying that billick and ray made the rivalry more interesting

if they are both gone the rivalry won't seem the same

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The Ravens are franchising Ray. That has to be the move. They can't put the franchise tag on Suggs again because he probably won't commit to a long term deal if he's tagged a second time. With Ray Lewis being almost 34 years old, signing him to a one year contract with the franchise tag makes sense. At some point his productivity has to drop. It may be during the 2009 season where Ray's game noticeably drops off. If that happens, it makes it easier to part ways with him after '09. Hate to see it happen but at some point both parties have to move on.

I see Ray playing into his late 30's with probably two other teams. I doubt he finishes his career as a Raven with the modern salary cap era. It would be nice but it has to make financial sense so that it doesn't hurt the future of the team.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on February 19, 2009, 06:42:56 AM
Whoops, wrong again!

Terrell Suggs was slapped with the franchise tag to avoid having him hit the open market. I guess the Ravens and Suggs couldn't agree on a contract extension after all. The tag prevents him from hitting the open market.

As for Ray Lewis? Things are about to get interesting.....
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 02, 2009, 09:53:33 AM
It seems that Ray Lewis grossly overestimated his value in free agency. Ray and his agent have not scheduled one visit with another NFL team so far. Lewis is said to be fuming over the lack of interest for his services.

Count the Dallas Cowboys out of the running. They just signed inside LB Keith Brooking out of Atlanta to a three year deal. The Ravens have offered a three year 24 million contract with 17 million guaranteed. No competing contract offer to drive up the price either.

Ray...I love you bro but the reality is that you're not 28 years old, dude. If you were, you would be able to sign the richest contract for a defender in NFL history. You're going on 34 years old and while still playing at a high level, you were destined to be a lifetime Raven.

Welcome back! ;D
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 10:04:08 AM
It seems that Ray Lewis grossly overestimated his value in free agency. Ray and his agent have not scheduled one visit with another NFL team so far. Lewis is said to be fuming over the lack of interest for his services.

Count the Dallas Cowboys out of the running. They just signed inside LB Keith Brooking out of Atlanta to a three year deal. The Ravens have offered a three year 24 million contract with 17 million guaranteed. No competing contract offer to drive up the price either.

Ray...I love you bro but the reality is that you're not 28 years old, dude. If you were, you would be able to sign the richest contract for a defender in NFL history. You're going on 34 years old and while still playing at a high level, you were destined to be a lifetime Raven.

Welcome back! ;D

This just in Steelers Traded Foote for Lewis straight up






LOL im joking...i can wish though right
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 10:22:06 AM
It seems that Ray Lewis grossly overestimated his value in free agency. Ray and his agent have not scheduled one visit with another NFL team so far. Lewis is said to be fuming over the lack of interest for his services.

Count the Dallas Cowboys out of the running. They just signed inside LB Keith Brooking out of Atlanta to a three year deal. The Ravens have offered a three year 24 million contract with 17 million guaranteed. No competing contract offer to drive up the price either.

Ray...I love you bro but the reality is that you're not 28 years old, dude. If you were, you would be able to sign the richest contract for a defender in NFL history. You're going on 34 years old and while still playing at a high level, you were destined to be a lifetime Raven.

Welcome back! ;D
NE will look at him if the price is right.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 10:26:36 AM
NE will look at him if the price is right.
Right.. They got 18mil under the cap right??
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
Right.. They got 18mil under the cap right??

22 million.  + 6 draft choices in the first 100 selections of the draft.  4 of them in the first 62 choices.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 02, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
NE will look at him if the price is right.

Think so? I'm not quite so sure but you never know. Who are their current ILB's in the 3-4? Mayo and who else? Bruschi?

I hope the Pats don't offer a contract to Lewis. He would probably take the offer. :-\
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 10:36:27 AM
22 million.  + 6 draft choices in the first 100 selections of the draft.  4 of them in the first 62 choices.

na i thought it was 18. with 1 first round and 3 2nd rounders...and 2 3rd rounders...either way...thats powerful shit
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 11:32:44 AM
na i thought it was 18. with 1 first round and 3 2nd rounders...and 2 3rd rounders...either way...thats powerful shit

They had 3.2 to start.  They cleared 14.8 milllion for Cassel and 4 million for Vrabel.  They just signed James Sanders, so it might be lower than it was yesterday I have not looked.  That number will shrink again if they lock up Wilfork.

You're right about the picks.   One of three things is going to happen:

They finish rebuilding the defense and draft another wr

They use most of the picks on D and they go after peppers

They Rebuild the d further and trade out for 2010 picks
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
They had 3.2 to start.  They cleared 14.8 milllion for Cassel and 4 million for Vrabel.  They just signed James Sanders, so it might be lower than it was yesterday I have not looked.  That number will shrink again if they lock up Wilfork.

You're right about the picks.   One of three things is going to happen:

They finish rebuilding the defense and draft another wr

They use most of the picks on D and they go after peppers

They Rebuild the d further and trade out for 2010 picks

 :(

We are going to get a draft pick produces year one  as well as more production from Sweed. Need him to step up big time in order to repeat
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 12:10:17 PM
:(

We are going to get a draft pick produces year one  as well as more production from Sweed. Need him to step up big time in order to repeat

What sucks for us is all the pats coaches going out and turning their teams into 3/4's.   Years ago it was just us.....now there are many teams.  Broncos, Jets, Cleveland, KC, Pats, Steelers, Niners, Packers....I think I'm forgetting a few.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 12:19:19 PM
What sucks for us is all the pats coaches going out and turning their teams into 3/4's.   Years ago it was just us.....now there are many teams.  Broncos, Jets, Cleveland, KC, Pats, Steelers, Niners, Packers....I think I'm forgetting a few.

No it was us first..Blitzburg..we invented the zone Blitz out of the 3-4
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 12:32:11 PM
No it was us first..Blitzburg..we invented the zone Blitz out of the 3-4

I know....what are you talking about?  I said it was only 4 years ago that we were the only two 3/4 teams so the draft had a lot of players we could use.....now there are many others team who are competing for our players.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 12:35:16 PM
I know....what are you talking about?  I said it was only 4 years ago that we where the only two 3/4 teams so they draft had a lot of players we could use.....now there are many others team who are competing for our players.

my bad..yeah all your coaches went elsewhere and implemented it...miami, new york (jets) cleveland.
This is the difference in the 2 best Pats and Steelers

Steelers do it with great athelets in the front 7 and the safeties...
Pats do it with great line smart linebackers and funnel everything short to the corners who just sit and wait on the pass...Bill=football mastermind
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: body88 on March 02, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
my bad..yeah all your coaches went elsewhere and implemented it...miami, new york (jets) cleveland.
This is the difference in the 2 best Pats and Steelers

Steelers do it with great athelets in the front 7 and the safeties...
Pats do it with great line smart linebackers and funnel everything short to the corners who just sit and wait on the pass...Bill=football mastermind

I wonder how many more teams are going to run the 3/4? 
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
I wonder how many more teams are going to run the 3/4? 
some teams tried but found its not as easy as it looks..

Remember:
Ravens
Raiders
That shit was ugly when they tried...We forgor Ray was in the leauge when they went to the 3-4

Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 04, 2009, 02:13:38 PM
Speaking of Ray Lewis, he has reached an agreement to re-sign with the Ravens to four or five year deal. It will be announced sometime next week.

Good to see an NFL icon finish his career with the same team that drafted him. (I hope--anything can happen in today's NFL)
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: CalvinH on March 05, 2009, 06:13:39 AM
Speaking of Ray Lewis, he has reached an agreement to re-sign with the Ravens to four or five year deal. It will be announced sometime next week.

Good to see an NFL icon finish his career with the same team that drafted him. (I hope--anything can happen in today's NFL)




Good for him.it's where he belongs.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 05, 2009, 08:14:22 AM



Good for him.it's where he belongs.

This is true. Pretty amazing that he's been a Raven since the team came to Baltimore in 1996. He is Mr. Baltimore Raven.

I would not be surprised if Ray played out his new 3 year contract and signed with another team. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Ray Lewis is a freak of nature who will play into his late 30's at a high level.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
This just in Steelers Traded Foote for Lewis straight up




LOL im joking...i can wish though right

You that would Funny as hell!!! Ravens fans would be pissed. Lewis wouldn't be able to get out of (Probably Baltimore County) alive!
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Earl1972 on March 05, 2009, 09:45:54 PM
You that would Funny as hell!!! Ravens fans would be pissed. Lewis wouldn't be able to get out of (Probably Baltimore County) alive!


he did tell coach tomlin after the afc title game "i would love to play for you" ;D

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Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 06, 2009, 07:23:08 AM
There's not one black player in the NFL who wouldn't want to play for another black head coach.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 06, 2009, 09:45:14 AM
There's not one black player in the NFL who wouldn't want to play for another black head coach.
why you gotta go racial >:(
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 06, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
why you gotta go racial >:(

Geez.....another brother with another race card itchy trigger finger.

I'm not being racial. But black coaches like Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Tomlin represent major progess in the modern NFL era.

The next barrier to climb is for a black man to own an NFL team. But I'm betting I won't see that in my lifetime and I'm only 35.
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: Option D on March 06, 2009, 11:49:40 AM
Geez.....another brother with another race card itchy trigger finger.

I'm not being racial. But black coaches like Dungy, Lovie Smith, and Tomlin represent major progess in the modern NFL era.

The next barrier to climb is for a black man to own an NFL team. But I'm betting I won't see that in my lifetime and I'm only 35.

Relax Suzy..Im just jokin. And player coaches are player coaches. All players would like to play for Tony Dungy, Wade Phillips, etc... and all players hate playing for Bill Parcels and Tom Caughlin...nothing to do with race cha cha
Title: Re: Ray Ray's status
Post by: CalvinH on March 06, 2009, 12:24:49 PM
Relax Suzy..Im just jokin. And player coaches are player coaches. All players would like to play for Tony Dungy, Wade Phillips, etc... and all players hate playing for Bill Parcels and Tom Caughlin...nothing to do with race cha cha




Not true about Parcells my friend.some guys loved him to death.