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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: steveeray on January 23, 2009, 11:29:08 PM
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Hey punks ;D
It has been a while since I have posted. What has anyone heard about people who went down?
Who narced
Who plea bargined
What was seized from good brothers
Who is in jail
Who got probation.
What the scoop?
Should be a good movie. Especially those on the front line fighting for you bros!
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by fighting, do you mean scrambling to cut a deal faster than the bro in the next cell over?
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Hey punks ;D
It has been a while since I have posted. What has anyone heard about people who went down?
Who narced
Who plea bargined
What was seized from good brothers
Who is in jail
Who got probation.
What the scoop?
Should be a good movie. Especially those on the front line fighting for you bros!
Welcome back bro..hope all is well with you and family :)
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I'm not a convict so I have no idea.
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Anyone else find it interesting that an anti steroid operation was named after an Arnold movie?
(http://www.dvdbooty.com/images/raw-deal_220x312.jpg)
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by fighting, do you mean scrambling to cut a deal faster than the bro in the next cell over?
No joke
Im still awaiting trial. Kids back with wife after 10 months. Judge was not happy with the unethical practices of cps.
I paid child support for 7 months and state says there keeping it.
Thats why I moved from this dumb ass state. I only come in for court.
much respect to everyone who prayed and believed in my family and I.
It was a wake up call not to do stupid things again OR to not ask questions when
questions needed to be asked.
Or trust someone on FED parole.
That should of been a given. I'll update as court continues in the case of
trailorparkboloa vs the crack pheen cops who lost evidence they planted to get SW from judge and don't have a chance in hell of conviction and wrong date 2 years off on SW and wrong address on affidavit connecting search warrant.
That is what pisses me off!
BTW. Anyone know a pro Bono attorney. I'm broke on this staying outta jail thing. Prosecution is wanting to delay the enevitable
At least have a fair trial!
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Looking for a civil attorney. I have 2 criminal attorneys. If this goes to trial I'm writting a book.
With spell check of course.
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if you dont know how to do illegal things without getting caught, its would be wise not do those illegal things in the first place.
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No joke
Im still awaiting trial. Kids back with wife after 10 months. Judge was not happy with the unethical practices of cps.
I paid child support for 7 months and state says there keeping it.
Thats why I moved from this dumb ass state. I only come in for court.
much respect to everyone who prayed and believed in my family and I.
It was a wake up call not to do stupid things again OR to not ask questions when
questions needed to be asked.
Or trust someone on FED parole.
That should of been a given. I'll update as court continues in the case of
trailorparkboloa vs the crack pheen cops who lost evidence they planted to get SW from judge and don't have a chance in hell of conviction and wrong date 2 years off on SW and wrong address on affidavit connecting search warrant.
That is what pisses me off!
BTW. Anyone know a pro Bono attorney. I'm broke on this staying outta jail thing. Prosecution is wanting to delay the enevitable
At least have a fair trial!
I hear Paul Haupp is top notch.
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if you dont know how to do illegal things without getting caught, its would be wise not do those illegal things in the first place.
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I'll take that into consideration
I guess I lost your vote for reasonable doubt
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so that we don't have to wade thru the shit, please provide a summary of your involvement in ORD. Thank you in advance.
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dude, prosecuters always want to drag it out. that way when you run out of money they will plea bargain your ass. they will still get a win and you may get probation or you may get your ass tossed in da slammer. all they want is the win. im around this kinda stuff everyday. have they offered you a deal yet?
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dude, prosecuters always want to drag it out. that way when you run out of money they will plea bargain your ass. they will still get a win and you may get probation or you may get your ass tossed in da slammer. all they want is the win. im around this kinda stuff everyday. have they offered you a deal yet?
They changed the charge so it looks like they are back peddleing a little
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so that we don't have to wade thru the shit, please provide a summary of your involvement in ORD. Thank you in advance.
You got to be jokeing?
Im a nobody!
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You got to be jokeing?
Im a nobody!
you mean "joking"?
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you mean "joking"?
I was beat as a child which gave me a stuuuder
leave my A.D.D ass alone ;D
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if you dont know how to do illegal things without getting caught, its would be wise not do those illegal things in the first place.
We'll keep that advice in mind if you should ever stray from your path of perfect virtue.
BTW, how's the cycle going. Lifts "threw the roof"? Growing "like a weed"?
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SteveE!!
Glad to see ur well bro!
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Steve, you should quit posting shit like that. If I were the prosecutor, I could take a few sentences out of context to try to make the jury see you as a bad guy. It might feel good to vent but this is a time to play it smart. Don't even vent with a gimmic.
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hey tapeworm, what he says or said here online would not even make it to discovery. his attorney could get any of this tossed. hell they aint even gonna waste their time on crap like this. they want good hard solid evidence, not some bs posted on a web sight. anything said here still has to have merit and be proven.
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An update:
Im staying out of trouble. Off all anabolics. My family is more important to me now than ever.
Thank you to everyone who has kept us in your prayers. All is good just still fighting the good fight
with my mouth closed. Health issues from stress and cps has plauged our family but with a strong heart
and mind I/We can overcome anything.
Thank you to everyone for your prayers and support.
To the person who said "I don't know I'm not a convict"
Well hopefully a buddy never leaves a vial in your car after a workout or god
forbid you help someone move and unknowingly.
Well you know were I'm going with this.
And for those who choose to monitor my post.
I'm only a threat in your mind. I have a sound mind and conscience.
You are the problem who plauged our boards and forums.
You are the ones who look for a better deal.
You have to live with yourself and wonder day to day what is true, what is reality, what is BS.
What you have done to inocent families.
You have to walk the earth looking over your shoulder.
I can walk the earth and turn around and smile.
Your waisting your time on me. Use your time more productively than waisting tax dollars.
Hey, I have police protection ED paid by you board members who pay your taxes and I didn't even say a word.
reguards and smile back when I wave.
much respect to the Mods who let me express my opinion as others have not.
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An update:
Im staying out of trouble. Off all anabolics. My family is more important to me now than ever.
Thank you to everyone who has kept us in your prayers. All is good just still fighting the good fight
with my mouth closed. Health issues from stress and cps has plauged our family but with a strong heart
and mind I/We can overcome anything.
Thank you to everyone for your prayers and support.
To the person who said "I don't know I'm not a convict"
Well hopefully a buddy never leaves a vial in your car after a workout or god
forbid you help someone move and unknowingly.
Well you know were I'm going with this.
And for those who choose to monitor my post.
I'm only a threat in your mind. I have a sound mind and conscience.
You are the problem who plauged our boards and forums.
You are the ones who look for a better deal.
You have to live with yourself and wonder day to day what is true, what is reality, what is BS.
What you have done to inocent families.
You have to walk the earth looking over your shoulder.
I can walk the earth and turn around and smile.
Your waisting your time on me. Use your time more productively than waisting tax dollars.
Hey, I have police protection ED paid by you board members who pay your taxes and I didn't even say a word.
reguards and smile back when I wave.
much respect to the Mods who let me express my opinion as others have not.
Thanks for the update but as your imaginary friend I really don't care about you or your legal problems.
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An update:
Im staying out of trouble. Off all anabolics. My family is more important to me now than ever.
Thank you to everyone who has kept us in your prayers. All is good just still fighting the good fight
with my mouth closed. Health issues from stress and cps has plauged our family but with a strong heart
and mind I/We can overcome anything.
Thank you to everyone for your prayers and support.
To the person who said "I don't know I'm not a convict"
Well hopefully a buddy never leaves a vial in your car after a workout or god
forbid you help someone move and unknowingly.
Well you know were I'm going with this.
And for those who choose to monitor my post.
I'm only a threat in your mind. I have a sound mind and conscience.
You are the problem who plauged our boards and forums.
You are the ones who look for a better deal.
You have to live with yourself and wonder day to day what is true, what is reality, what is BS.
What you have done to inocent families.
You have to walk the earth looking over your shoulder.
I can walk the earth and turn around and smile.
Your waisting your time on me. Use your time more productively than waisting tax dollars.
Hey, I have police protection ED paid by you board members who pay your taxes and I didn't even say a word.
reguards and smile back when I wave.
much respect to the Mods who let me express my opinion as others have not.
Now that you are off anabolics the world is a much better and safer place. LE should be proud of themselves.
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Thanks for the update but as your imaginary friend I really don't care about you or your legal problems.
Go fuckyourself!
Funny how I'm the enemy now and know one cares.
Just like DJacobs, swept under the rug!
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Go fuckyourself!
Funny how I'm the enemy now and know one cares.
Just like DJacobs, swept under the rug!
dont even sweat elite_lifter....just some glorified planet fagness 'hardass' who logs on here thinking he's a badass cause some old guy asked him 3weeks ago 'what do you do for your delts'
truffle shuffle just likes fckn with everyone
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I'm back after serving little over 3 and a half years. How's everyone?
Who's left? Who's in prison. Word of advice and take
This from a Vet. There not playin. Much respect to all
Who contiue to fight the fight. I won't be posting much. I ve
Calmed my ass down alot.
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And I did not talk so for the haters that are still
Around when I was in prison I thought how crazy
How everything and the warnings I gave everyone
How pretty much the haters spit on me when I was giving
A heads up before the ORD crash and who caused it.
Regardless good luck to those who are recovering physically,
Mentally, and financially from ORD. Family is more
Important than money. And when a person runs long enough
You get tired and turn into a slobbering mute and in prison
I slept for the first time in years
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Stay Strong Steve!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/sports/24cnd-steroid.html?_r=0
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Stay Strong Steve!
Thanx brother
Much respect
That news story, crazy how far they went on
My charges to get me to talk. I guess they wanted
Everybody and anybody. Feds wanted to talk to me
A month before I went into prison. Wanted to offer me
A probation deal to talk. Everything boiled up in me at that
Meeting. I thought I could walk on water I told them I'm the
One there looking for and go F himself. The agent did tell
Me anything I told him could not be held against me in a court
Of law. So I told him. Then I went into prison. The DEa and local
Le hits my fathers house while I was in prison and found a joint
So it validated $7000 in damage they did to his house. I dumped
Everything before prison because dea went to my families
Houses asking questions about enter et purchases.
I'm free and I'm so blessed that THAT life is over for me.
I can walk outside with my head held high and smile and know
I did the right thing
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I don't necessarily care for your boxed writing style.
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guy has been through hell
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Maybe it's his writing style, but I still dont understand what happened to him.
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Maybe legit kigs are involved?
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The DEa and local Le hits my fathers house while I was in prison and found a joint
What's the story behind this part?
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Now that you've served your time can you tell us what you were charged with exactly?
Very sorry that you did time, man. I don't think people should be put away for non-violent crimes like these. Eliminate prohibition and let people go to a pharmacy for whatever ails them. It's a market created by prohibition and the government reaps the benefits.
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I don't necessarily care for your boxed writing style.
It confirms who I am I guess? Look at old post
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Cool! I got a fat guy in underwear
And a panda.
Hit dice Hit
:0)
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To everyone. Mabe this is a glimmer of hope for
Extreme situations and positive results at the end.
Prison did not make me soft. I learned a lot about
Life in there. I learned that my decitions positive
Or negative effects people. I just wanted to drop in
Because I feel I owe the community the truth
With all honesty
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To everyone. Mabe this is a glimmer of hope for
Extreme situations and positive results at the end.
Prison did not make me soft. I learned a lot about
Life in there. I learned that my decitions positive
Or negative effects people. I just wanted to drop in
Because I feel I owe the community the truth
With all honesty
Steve, were you asked to pick up the soap?
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To everyone. Mabe this is a glimmer of hope for
Extreme situations and positive results at the end.
Prison did not make me soft. I learned a lot about
Life in there. I learned that my decitions positive
Or negative effects people. I just wanted to drop in
Because I feel I owe the community the truth
With all honesty
Explain what happened dude
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Explain what happened dude
manufacture and distribution over 400g testosterone
I got attorneyed up. Didn't talk. They were
Trying to hit me with 9-99 years. The other
Crimes they pilled on top. They wanted to
Presuide a jury that Durring the punishment
Fase to give me the max. Altogether max time
Was 220 years for all charges (all charges). Messed up search
Warrant and affidavid connecting search warrant.
Judge let it go to trial regardless of search warrants .
I plead to 12 years state. Served 3 years and 7 months.
It's been a ride bro. And no, to the other post.
No soap dropping. (On purpose) once it hits the ground
It was out of there in my book. The gas was the rough
Part. There was a couple of mat burnings and
2 mini prison riots in chow hall on different unit
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So you were probably jacked as fuck going in, too.
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So you were probably jacked as fuck going in, too.
Hard part is my hormones were all jacked up. Had extreme
Back pain. Had a prob with pain meds so I had major withdraws.
I wanted to die really. My test levels crashed. Started getting gyno.
Depression set in hearing the outside worlds problems that
Effected me. Was it worth what I did. Hell no! Family harassed by
LE while in was in there. I thought I was superman, then realizing
Later, I hurt everyone, it took me to a deep messed up place.
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manufacture and distribution over 400g testosterone
I got attorneyed up. Didn't talk. They were
Trying to hit me with 9-99 years. The other
Crimes they pilled on top. They wanted to
Presuide a jury that Durring the punishment
Fase to give me the max. Altogether max time
Was 220 years for all charges (all charges). Messed up search
Warrant and affidavid connecting search warrant.
Judge let it go to trial regardless of search warrants .
I plead to 12 years state. Served 3 years and 7 months.
It's been a ride bro. And no, to the other post.
No soap dropping. (On purpose) once it hits the ground
It was out of there in my book. The gas was the rough
Part. There was a couple of mat burnings and
2 mini prison riots in chow hall on different unit
lol at the gas... where I was we had pepper-spray paintball guns and CO's would shoot at our nuts.
Nice with the 25% b4 parole.. I got 50% of 10 plus 5 suspended. Was lucky I had an HRT script before I went in.
at least you didn't go fed. could've been worse.
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manufacture and distribution over 400g testosterone
I got attorneyed up. Didn't talk. They were
Trying to hit me with 9-99 years. The other
Crimes they pilled on top. They wanted to
Presuide a jury that Durring the punishment
Fase to give me the max. Altogether max time
Was 220 years for all charges (all charges). Messed up search
Warrant and affidavid connecting search warrant.
Judge let it go to trial regardless of search warrants .
I plead to 12 years state. Served 3 years and 7 months.
It's been a ride bro. And no, to the other post.
No soap dropping. (On purpose) once it hits the ground
It was out of there in my book. The gas was the rough
Part. There was a couple of mat burnings and
2 mini prison riots in chow hall on different unit
your mistake was having communication with Pinnacle wich I why you got fucked plus you had those cameras out side your house(that always makes your hpouse stick out). I know you from SSB and I know you are small time. I think you just ran into shitty luck! I know you tried to start that powerhouse labs or some shit but nobody liked it. Like I said helping pinnacle was your downfall. I think you are a decent guy who got fucked for barely doing shit. You really got screwed for some minor shit. I swear you should of avoided pinnacle and not of posted on boards that you knew him and had lunch with him and shit like that. I feel bad for you. I hope your life gets back on track.
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Remember making shit for pinnacle when he was in jail steve?
THIS WAS A OLD SOURCE ON SSB AND OUTLAW. A LAB WITH GOOD REVIEWS BUT YET COOKED IN A KITCHEN USING A MICROWAVE AND A CRAPPY FILTERING SYSTEM. YET THE GEAR WAS PRAISED AND THIS GUY JOSH MADE 20K A WEEK! MOST SOURCES BACK THEN MADE ABOUT 60-90k A MONTH. AFTER OPERATION GEAR GRINDER WICH TOOK OUT 90% OF THE USA STEROID SUPPLY IS WHEN UGL'S GOT REAL POPULAR. ABOUT 90% OF THE GEAR FLOODING THE USA WAS MEXICAL LABS SUCH AS QUALITY VET, DENKALL, SYD GROUP, BROVELL AND TTOKYO THESE LABS WERE NOT THAT BAD AND THERE GEAR WAS CHEAP! THIS IS A GOOD READ-IMO. SHOWS ALL IT TAKES IS SOME CHINESE POWDER AND A MICROWAVE AND YOU CAN MAKE BIG MONEY. THIS GUY WAS CONSIDERED A TOP SOURCE YET SOLD GARBAGE! ANY SOURCE CAN CLAIM THEIR GEAR IS THE BEST! NONE OF US REALLY KNOW HOW THEY ARE MAKING IT!
READ THESE INSTALLMENTS.
http://www.vpxsports.com/article-detail/pinnacle-labs--seven-figure-bootlegging
http://www.vpxsports.com/article-det...ll-good-things
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No, I don't hate Josh. I have forgiven him to the point
He does not cross my mind anymore. Yes, I was a nobody
Who took the opportunity he presented to me. I know what
Occurred Durring that time. Remember the last conversation
You had with me Josh. "There going to come in on you I'm so
Sorry bro" then they did 20 sec later. I don't know what was
Going on in Josh's life Durring that time.
I believe you had things going on other than probation
Reguaress I should hate you for what you caused in my family.
I wish you the best and for blessings in your future.
I know you would wish me the same. I"ll pass up on that drink
You offered me (you said on the board to tell me it was you)
While you we're running. Josh, I was a man. I didn't run. They said
They were trying to find there witness. Then they find you. All the
Sudden my attorneys want to plea.
With all that being said. Good luck to you. Do positive things in your
Life. Take care of your family. We were bad ass. Thanx for the memories
HO :0)
That message is a message to Josh above.
WhiteWidow
We spoke in the past and we had issues. That's because
I would not listen to you and thought I knew it all. Much respect
That was the past and a crazy time. Now my head in on straight.
I'm just outta prison after 3.5years. Glassy eyed.
I'm blessed.
Also I had support after my arrest. More so 2008 and 2009.
I, JJ, and BTK thank you. You know who you are.
My deepest respect
And the Panda"s mine damit.
I'm making a shirt with that picture
That says. I distributed for Pinnacle Labs
And all I got was a prison sentence and this panda
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I have a panda now and It's mine all mine.
Next business adventure is Hummmm ;)
Panda smuggling from China.
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No, I don't hate Josh. I have forgiven him to the point
He does not cross my mind anymore. Yes, I was a nobody
Who took the opportunity he presented to me. I know what
Occurred Durring that time. Remember the last conversation
You had with me Josh. "There going to come in on you I'm so
Sorry bro" then they did 20 sec later. I don't know what was
Going on in Josh's life Durring that time.
I believe you had things going on other than probation
Reguaress I should hate you for what you caused in my family.
I wish you the best and for blessings in your future.
I know you would wish me the same. I"ll pass up on that drink
You offered me (you said on the board to tell me it was you)
While you we're running. Josh, I was a man. I didn't run. They said
They were trying to find there witness. Then they find you. All the
Sudden my attorneys want to plea.
With all that being said. Good luck to you. Do positive things in your
Life. Take care of your family. We were bad ass. Thanx for the memories
HO :0)
That message is a message to Josh above.
WhiteWidow
We spoke in the past and we had issues. That's because
I would not listen to you and thought I knew it all. Much respect
That was the past and a crazy time. Now my head in on straight.
I'm just outta prison after 3.5years. Glassy eyed.
I'm blessed.
Also I had support after my arrest. More so 2008 and 2009.
I, JJ, and BTK thank you. You know who you are.
My deepest respect
And the Panda"s mine damit.
I'm making a shirt with that picture
That says. I distributed for Pinnacle Labs
And all I got was a prison sentence and this panda
how did you get more time then josh(pinnacle)?
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Cut a deal
I read what Josh wrote on what happened on another forum. I'm posting
All of this to say what happed on my end. The only reason I'm giving details
Never released is we have both done our time for (that situation)
I would not talk so they hit me on numerous offences.
Josh, you know what you did and how you did it.
I'm not going to explain your dirty laundry but you did
Wrong bro. But then again so did others. David Jacobs ect.
I can live everyday knowing that I took responsibility for what
I did and did not entice someone who was down on there luck
And needed money and was paid bullshit money and only when
You got popped in (Mansfield) (feb-07) yes, the bust before my bust (9-07) (probation
Full of shit) You got popped, you had me run your company while working
With your buddy T wing (LE) to work a deal. Sending me orders, powders, new high end labels, getting me to ship glasswear you packed rattling all over the place, getting me to send money to china, pick up money from the drop box, so when it was all said and done
They slammed me with a lot of charges with your guidance. Then you went on the run.
Then you get popped the end of 2009 in OK while you were running another lab
And Remember the $15,000 drop I made to you in front of Tim. I saw it on your face.
I said, guy that drove by looks familiar. You said, your just paranoid. I knew bro.
Task Force didn't know this. Before you went on the run, before my bust. You said.
"How much money do you have" I said I have $15,000. You said, sent it to me in OK
So we could get more powders. You took my money bro. Knowing I was about to get busted
And sending me 4 overnight texas orders that had to go out (if I would of sent them when u
Told me to they would know where the stock was) AND the setup that LE didn't know about. Remember
The powders and 1000ml of eq and te. Right the other drop box they didn't know about. LE knew nothing
About that box. You called me saying did you get it. I lied and said yes. I told u about the trucks following me.
Remember, I hung up the phone with you. You remember what you said?
There going to come in on you. I thru the phone in the lake when I made the turn and was boxed in.
In the end. I still protected you! Your name was on a sealed federal indictment. You caused numerous bust.
I forgive you but your still an Fing RAT!
If you tell the story. Tell the whole story. It's more exciting. If I wrote a book about it all I would of given it
A very good ending. THIS life of anabolics is over. I've taken greats steps to heal from all of this.
As you can see I must still be healing but my family lives daily that there mommy and daddy was taken away and there 9 month in cps. My decitions caused that I know. Josh again, good luck to you and your family.
I wish the best for you. I pray you get your life back together as we'll. We served long prison sentences.
We learned. Now it's time to do productive things, not destructive.
I know you will get this message sooner or later. That's why I'm posting here.
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Cut a deal
I read what Josh wrote on what happened on another forum. I'm posting
All of this to say what happed on my end. The only reason I'm giving details
Never released is we have both done our time for (that situation)
I would not talk so they hit me on numerous offences.
Josh, you know what you did and how you did it.
I'm not going to explain your dirty laundry but you did
Wrong bro. But then again so did others. David Jacobs ect.
I can live everyday knowing that I took responsibility for what
I did and did not entice someone who was down on there luck
And needed money and was paid bullshit money and only when
You got popped in (Mansfield) (feb-07) yes, the bust before my bust (9-07) (probation
Full of shit) You got popped, you had me run your company while working
With your buddy T wing (LE) to work a deal. Sending me orders, powders, new high end labels, getting me to ship glasswear you packed rattling all over the place, getting me to send money to china, pick up money from the drop box, so when it was all said and done
They slammed me with a lot of charges with your guidance. Then you went on the run.
Then you get popped the end of 2009 in OK while you were running another lab
And Remember the $15,000 drop I made to you in front of Tim. I saw it on your face.
I said, guy that drove by looks familiar. You said, your just paranoid. I knew bro.
Task Force didn't know this. Before you went on the run, before my bust. You said.
"How much money do you have" I said I have $15,000. You said, sent it to me in OK
So we could get more powders. You took my money bro. Knowing I was about to get busted
And sending me 4 overnight texas orders that had to go out (if I would of sent them when u
Told me to they would know where the stock was) AND the setup that LE didn't know about. Remember
The powders and 1000ml of eq and te. Right the other drop box they didn't know about. LE knew nothing
About that box. You called me saying did you get it. I lied and said yes. I told u about the trucks following me.
Remember, I hung up the phone with you. You remember what you said?
There going to come in on you. I thru the phone in the lake when I made the turn and was boxed in.
In the end. I still protected you! Your name was on a sealed federal indictment. You caused numerous bust.
I forgive you but your still an Fing RAT!
If you tell the story. Tell the whole story. It's more exciting. If I wrote a book about it all I would of given it
A very good ending. THIS life of anabolics is over. I've taken greats steps to heal from all of this.
As you can see I must still be healing but my family lives daily that there mommy and daddy was taken away and there 9 month in cps. My decitions caused that I know. Josh again, good luck to you and your family.
I wish the best for you. I pray you get your life back together as we'll. We served long prison sentences.
We learned. Now it's time to do productive things, not destructive.
I know you will get this message sooner or later. That's why I'm posting here.
Money sure is addicting but making gear when your on the run and better yet when the feds are watching that is how greedy money will make somebody. sounds like he left you in the trenches taking grenades.I can't believe you are apologizing unless you were money hungry as well.I would of stayed away from him if he was running from LE and they were moving in on him.
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Hard part is my hormones were all jacked up. Had extreme
Back pain. Had a prob with pain meds so I had major withdraws.
I wanted to die really. My test levels crashed. Started getting gyno.
Depression set in hearing the outside worlds problems that
Effected me. Was it worth what I did. Hell no! Family harassed by
LE while in was in there. I thought I was superman, then realizing
Later, I hurt everyone, it took me to a deep messed up place.
Damn, bro. You've been through some serious shit.
I want to know why the porkers were showing up at your dad's place. How is it they had the opportunity to find that joint you mentioned?
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this is why you run a one-man op, and NEVER take chances. everybody looks out for their own self-interest.
"let me introduce you to so&so"... 50/50 chance "so&so" is an informant or undercover.
at the slightest hint you're about to go down, you gotta be ready mentally & financially to pack your clothes, toss your products, and leave the country. Clearing $15k/month, 13 of that is profit. You gotta have savings and preferably an offshore account and a car that won't break down on you when driving across mexico. & never have guns. guns + controlled substances will guarantee you go federal. Then again, it's easy to lay in your bunk in prison and go over all the things that went wrong. The hard part is once you get out, sticking to your plan because there are speedbumps and deadends at every turn.
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manufacture and distribution over 400g testosterone
I got attorneyed up. Didn't talk. They were
Trying to hit me with 9-99 years. The other
Crimes they pilled on top. They wanted to
Presuide a jury that Durring the punishment
Fase to give me the max. Altogether max time
Was 220 years for all charges (all charges). Messed up search
Warrant and affidavid connecting search warrant.
Judge let it go to trial regardless of search warrants .
I plead to 12 years state. Served 3 years and 7 months.
It's been a ride bro. And no, to the other post.
No soap dropping. (On purpose) once it hits the ground
It was out of there in my book. The gas was the rough
Part. There was a couple of mat burnings and
2 mini prison riots in chow hall on different unit
In Canada you can violently rape someone and/or commit first degree murder and get out on lesser charges. The law is fucked up.
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this happend
(http://www.markus-ruehl.de/uploads/pics/arnolds07_3807.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289641.0;attach=329459;image)
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http://www.vpxsports.com/article-detail/drugs/pinnacle-labs-a-steroid-bootlegger-is-born
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this is why you run a one-man op, and NEVER take chances. everybody looks out for their own self-interest.
"let me introduce you to so&so"... 50/50 chance "so&so" is an informant or undercover.
at the slightest hint you're about to go down, you gotta be ready mentally & financially to pack your clothes, toss your products, and leave the country. Clearing $15k/month, 13 of that is profit. You gotta have savings and preferably an offshore account and a car that won't break down on you when driving across mexico. & never have guns. guns + controlled substances will guarantee you go federal. Then again, it's easy to lay in your bunk in prison and go over all the things that went wrong. The hard part is once you get out, sticking to your plan because there are speedbumps and deadends at every turn.
YEP
;)
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Steve, so what about the situation at your dad's place, where the cops were searching? You say this happened after you were in the klink? How did they come about the authority to search?
I won't ask again, in case you don't want to answer for some reason. Thought maybe you'd missed it.
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Steve, so what about the situation at your dad's place, where the cops were searching? You say this happened after you were in the klink? How did they come about the authority to search?
I won't ask again, in case you don't want to answer for some reason. Thought maybe you'd missed it.
LE with a hard on, that's all.
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LE with a hard on, that's all.
I hear you, bro. Glad you're back with us.
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I hear you, bro. Glad you're back with us.
Thanx bro
Prob with LE is when your on there radar there always looking
For something that does not exsist. They did not realize that
Game was over when I went to prison. I'm not good
With depending on other people and would never
Jepridize my family as I did in 07.
LE
Games over! I'm done. I'm out! Nothing exsist!
Prison wakes most people up
It did me
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Cut a deal
I read what Josh wrote on what happened on another forum. I'm posting
All of this to say what happed on my end. The only reason I'm giving details
Never released is we have both done our time for (that situation)
I would not talk so they hit me on numerous offences.
Josh, you know what you did and how you did it.
I'm not going to explain your dirty laundry but you did
Wrong bro. But then again so did others. David Jacobs ect.
I can live everyday knowing that I took responsibility for what
I did and did not entice someone who was down on there luck
And needed money and was paid bullshit money and only when
You got popped in (Mansfield) (feb-07) yes, the bust before my bust (9-07) (probation
Full of shit) You got popped, you had me run your company while working
With your buddy T wing (LE) to work a deal. Sending me orders, powders, new high end labels, getting me to ship glasswear you packed rattling all over the place, getting me to send money to china, pick up money from the drop box, so when it was all said and done
They slammed me with a lot of charges with your guidance. Then you went on the run.
Then you get popped the end of 2009 in OK while you were running another lab
And Remember the $15,000 drop I made to you in front of Tim. I saw it on your face.
I said, guy that drove by looks familiar. You said, your just paranoid. I knew bro.
Task Force didn't know this. Before you went on the run, before my bust. You said.
"How much money do you have" I said I have $15,000. You said, sent it to me in OK
So we could get more powders. You took my money bro. Knowing I was about to get busted
And sending me 4 overnight texas orders that had to go out (if I would of sent them when u
Told me to they would know where the stock was) AND the setup that LE didn't know about. Remember
The powders and 1000ml of eq and te. Right the other drop box they didn't know about. LE knew nothing
About that box. You called me saying did you get it. I lied and said yes. I told u about the trucks following me.
Remember, I hung up the phone with you. You remember what you said?
There going to come in on you. I thru the phone in the lake when I made the turn and was boxed in.
In the end. I still protected you! Your name was on a sealed federal indictment. You caused numerous bust.
I forgive you but your still an Fing RAT!
If you tell the story. Tell the whole story. It's more exciting. If I wrote a book about it all I would of given it
A very good ending. THIS life of anabolics is over. I've taken greats steps to heal from all of this.
As you can see I must still be healing but my family lives daily that there mommy and daddy was taken away and there 9 month in cps. My decitions caused that I know. Josh again, good luck to you and your family.
I wish the best for you. I pray you get your life back together as we'll. We served long prison sentences.
We learned. Now it's time to do productive things, not destructive.
I know you will get this message sooner or later. That's why I'm posting here.
steveeray,
you have been thru it man.and it sounds like you have made it intact mostly.do you still lift?are you going to keep that of your life?
also...from my memory Gymace and a few walked after making deal and are doing ok.
correct me if im wrong here.
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steveeray,
you have been thru it man.and it sounds like you have made it intact mostly.do you still lift?are you going to keep that of your life?
also...from my memory Gymace and a few walked after making deal and are doing ok.
correct me if im wrong here.
I'm good. In prison they fed a lot of carbs and meat deluted with oatmeal.
In commissary was trash food. I gained up to 40 pounds and I'm now 20 pounds
Over my original weight. No lifting for me. I'm getting older
And my body has old pains. I'm going to start walking and enjoying life.
On gymace. Good bro. I cut contact with everyone when I worked for PIN.
I was not buddy buddy. If you read my old post it was very crazy and
Controversial and honest. I wish them all well. A lot of us found a fast way
To make a hell of a lot of money. Now the time there giving out is the same time
As narcotics. I'm not even upset with the cops who technically went overboard
But was doing there job. They got paid to bust us. We got paid for doing something
Illegal point blank. Looking back. God put me in a little time out and Durring that time
The things bought were broken or stolen.
God taking drug money outta my life.
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I'm good. In prison they fed a lot of carbs and meat deluted with oatmeal.
In commissary was trash food. I gained up to 40 pounds and I'm now 20 pounds
Over my original weight. No lifting for me. I'm getting older
And my body has old pains. I'm going to start walking and enjoying life.
On gymace. Good bro. I cut contact with everyone when I worked for PIN.
I was not buddy buddy. If you read my old post it was very crazy and
Controversial and honest. I wish them all well. A lot of us found a fast way
To make a hell of a lot of money. Now the time there giving out is the same time
As narcotics. I'm not even upset with the cops who technically went overboard
But was doing there job. They got paid to bust us. We got paid for doing something
Illegal point blank. Looking back. God put me in a little time out and Durring that time
The things bought were broken or stolen.
God taking drug money outta my life.
did your ankle ever heal?
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did your ankle ever heal?
Yes, not a lot of a problem. Mostly my right knee swells.
I'm prison I messed it up pretty bad playing prison football.
At rec. we would take a pair of pants or shirt( thick material) . Roll em up. And
And put it in a sock. That was our football. Weighed about 5 pounds.
It would be 2 hand touch but full contact and blocking and well if the person running the
Ball just happens to run into someone full speed. O well. One game got a Broken nose. They
Said I must of been fighting because my nose was cut. Was going to put me in seg but the sgt was
Cool and I said I fell into a concrete wall. Wild stuff. I've had a lot of injuries over the years. So has others
I know and understand. I think I know when the injury occurred your talking about. I think I know u but we all
Need privacy so I'm not going to ask if we have a connection.