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Title: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 03:19:31 PM

The workouts and nutrition have been going well.  I look and feel much better than I did when I started this transformation a few months back when I tipped the scales at a frightening and disgusting 226 lbs. 

I weighed in last Thursday at 205.

My goal is to reach 192 in time for the Arnold, but like every other GetBigger, I can't afford to sacrifice too much muscle in the process...primarily because I don't really have any to lose. 

Right now, I'm getting all my nutrients from food and the only thing I'm taking is a protein supplement from Nature's Best.

What I feel my body needs is something to give me a little 'boost' when I go to train.  I'm open to other suggestions as well, but I think that's what I want most right now.  Any product ideas to provide what I'm looking for? 

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:20:39 PM
Low dose dianabol and some Ephedrine
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 09, 2009, 03:21:14 PM
Caffiene based stimulants work good for me.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
Caffiene based stimulants work good for me.

I used some ephedrine before cardio today, first time in like a year,
Almsot killed myself when I tried to piss afterwards lol!
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Miss Karen on February 09, 2009, 03:23:08 PM
2x Sustanon 250 should do the trick. :-\
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: boonstack on February 09, 2009, 03:24:52 PM
ec stack.

dont worry about the aspirin.

ephedrine helped me - 1: train harder while dieting
2- suppress appetite
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Stu on February 09, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Supplements are a waste of money, it's drugs or nothing I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Miss Karen on February 09, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
:D
         Dave that stuff right there is a Fucking Strength giver.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
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Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:31:14 PM
2x Sustanon 250 should do the trick. :-\

A short ester like Prop would be better.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Miss Karen on February 09, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
A short ester like Prop would be better.
         Yes you are right every other day 100mg of Prop.Stand back and watch yourself Grow. :-\
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:33:33 PM
         Yes you are right every other day 100mg of Prop.Stand back and watch yourself Grow. :-\

If he is aiming to get in shape before arnold then yes prop would be better  ;D
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 03:36:53 PM
tre if you just want to look lean and athletic  then do a bunch of high initensity cardio..

on a  bodybuidling site your going to hear bodybuilding tips... slow paced cardio... carb cycling... etc...but if you just wanna be fit and "sexy" then dont worry about that stuff man...

eat 3 or 4 or 5 meals a day (whatever), get in a big piece of meat at each meal with a bunch of veggies.... real simple stuff man...then do a bunch of wind sprints, go running, tabata in the morning, hit the gym twice a day...   
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Wiggs on February 09, 2009, 03:37:05 PM
lol 226?  I'm 272 someone needs to send me a crate of t-3 and clen
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
lol 226?  I'm 272 someone needs to send me a crate of t-3 and clen

wtf bro?
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 03:41:41 PM
lol 226?  I'm 272 someone needs to send me a crate of t-3 and clen
fuuucccccckkkk wiggs im hoping youve been juicing likea mother fucker beecause at 272 you gotta be one fat dude if your still naturall.,,, cuz your like 5'10'' right ?
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Wiggs on February 09, 2009, 03:44:56 PM
fuuucccccckkkk wiggs im hoping youve been juicing likea mother fucker beecause at 272 you gotta be one fat dude if your still naturall.,,, cuz your like 5'10'' right ?

I've juiced in the past.  I'm fat but no roles yet :-X
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 03:53:56 PM
tre if you just want to look lean and athletic  then do a bunch of high intensity cardio..

on a  bodybuidling site your going to hear bodybuilding tips... slow paced cardio... carb cycling... etc...but if you just wanna be fit and "sexy" then dont worry about that stuff man...

eat 3 or 4 or 5 meals a day (whatever), get in a big piece of meat at each meal with a bunch of veggies.... real simple stuff man...then do a bunch of wind sprints, go running, tabata in the morning, hit the gym twice a day...   

Thanks, Tbombz.  I was reading some of your stuff earlier on a different subject and was about to make the comment that 'there's the man most of us should be listening to', so I really appreciate your advice here.

I can't believe I'd never heard of Tabata before your mention, but just did some reading and I'm fascinated, so I will definitely give that a shot this evening.  I think the toughest part of that type of workout will be to push myself to maintain the highest intensity the whole time since I train alone when I don't have any models visiting.

Right now, my main protein sources are egg whites, chicken, salmon, and packaged tuna in addition to the powdered stuff.  I'm eating at least 100-120g/day of protein and drinking about 75-100g/day.  I'm not measuring my carbs at all, but recently dialed back to 1/2 cup of oatmeal in the morning from a full cup and noticed a significant drop in my energy levels.  I may need to bump that back up a little.  I'm eating a TON of spinach, but not enough other veggies right now.  I need to do a lot better on this. 

I'm snacking quite a bit, I think, but limit it to a handful or two of trail mix and maybe a cup of raw almonds throughout the day.  Looking at the past couple of weeks, the almonds (and peanuts) have been my main fat source, so I may need to increase that a little.

Oh, another thing I'm trying right now is to take a little more sodium than normal  in order to help me increase my water intake.  My thinking is that I'll go low sodium in the final week and use the last few days before the weigh-in to dry out.  Is this a strategy that could work?   
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
lol 226?  I'm 272 someone needs to send me a crate of t-3 and clen

Damn, Wiggs...how tall are you, bro? 

You know our hearts ain't designed for us to be too big, man. 

I'm 5-10...my previous high was 232, but looked my best at 190. 

Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Stu on February 09, 2009, 03:56:47 PM
You know our hearts ain't designed for us to be too big, man. 

Racist.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Miss Karen on February 09, 2009, 03:57:46 PM
When you put the carbs in last three days Cut all sodium to Zero.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
about the sodium thing - im nto sure. you should ask a friend that competes... maybe have him or her help you with thhe week before the arnold and the few days there.  honestlly you could probably just take a mild diuretic throughout the time and that'd be an easy way to do it. (uh oh now im gonna get harrased for suggesting drugs, lol)


the rest sounds cool, upping the carbs is fine, as long as your being real active and doing lots of different cardiovascular activities.


get in those veggies ! or at least some veggie pills.  or lemon juice in water.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 03:58:17 PM
Racist.

Can't argue with physiology.   :-\

My former spouse, who is not black, *loves* salt and insists on adding crazy amounts to everything.  After many meals, I didn't feel 'quite right', but now I'm mainly concerned for our daughter, who lives mainly with her mom. 
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
about the sodium thing - im nto sure. you should ask a friend that competes... maybe have him or her help you with the week before the arnold and the few days there.  honestly you could probably just take a mild diuretic throughout the time and that'd be an easy way to do it. (uh oh now im gonna get harrased for suggesting drugs, lol)

the rest sounds cool, upping the carbs is fine, as long as your being real active and doing lots of different cardiovascular activities.

get in those veggies ! or at least some veggie pills.  or lemon juice in water.

I have an opponent in this weight-loss competition (the really unfair is that I have to drop my last 13, while she's merely dumping her first 15), so diuretics are part of our 'anything goes' rules.  I would love to be able to squeeze out 5-6 lbs of water in those final days, but I'm not relying on that.  I think a more reasonable estimate is 2-3 lbs, given that it's been a LONG time (13-14 years) since I did any really tough dieting and my body is totally different now.

Veggie pills??  Does anyone have any safe recommendations on that? 
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: SS on February 09, 2009, 04:06:26 PM
:D
My ex worked at steris labs...quality shit 8)
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Wiggs on February 09, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
Damn, Wiggs...how tall are you, bro? 

You know our hearts ain't designed for us to be too big, man. 

I'm 5-10...my previous high was 232, but looked my best at 190. 



I'm 5'9.5  Yeah I know, the doc last week made it sound like I was 600lbs.  I'm morbidly obese.  lol
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 04:06:50 PM
My ex worked at steris labs...quality shit 8)
;)
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: SS on February 09, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
;)
She was a slutty little skank to boot :D
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 04:11:34 PM


Veggie pills??  Does anyone have any safe recommendations on that? 
here you go dude

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=greens&x=&ist=&pt=&b=&d=&k=&pr=&o=bestsellers&s=&c=1&u=&num_pages=7&bc=&os=0&ostype=0

7 pages worth
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: The Coach on February 09, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
tre if you just want to look lean and athletic  then do a bunch of high initensity cardio..

on a  bodybuidling site your going to hear bodybuilding tips... slow paced cardio... carb cycling... etc...but if you just wanna be fit and "sexy" then dont worry about that stuff man...


Thats why he should come here for some expert advice ;D


http://momentumperform.proboards58.com/index.cgi
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
I'm late 30s now and often used glucosamine when I was younger.  Should I get that back into the rotation, too? 

Also, what are the popular testosterone precursors nowadays?  Just askin'.   
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 04:21:44 PM
I'm late 30s now and often used glucosamine when I was younger.  Should I get that back into the rotation, too? 

Also, what are the popular testosterone precursors nowadays?  Just askin'.   
fucck all the "test precursors", either get on the real shit or stay clean and get underneath some heavy iron on squats, deadlifts, benches, bb rows, overhead presses,etc.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
run some tren if you want a good androgen in your system
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 04:28:09 PM
fucck all the "test precursors", either get on the real shit or stay clean and get underneath some heavy iron on squats, deadlifts, benches, bb rows, overhead presses,etc.

It was definitely weird for me getting back into the squat rack again, but since that first 'day of death', I've liked it. 

My bench is light, but I do include that on chest day and I'm doing db rows every other back day.  I haven't been doing bb rows, but will cycle those back in.  My numbers were never big, but I love shoulder presses. 

I've *never* deadlifted.  I mean, I've done it before just to see what I could pull, but they were never a part of my regular back workouts.  Is that why my back is so poorly developed??  Today's back day, so I should probably get with the program.  I'll admit to being scared, though.   :-\
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: BAZZERKER on February 09, 2009, 04:30:51 PM
i gotta say the trenn prohormones do work... with some fish oil / ZMA/ BCAAs/ coffee/  and steak and eggs

or test cypionate with equipoise is good 800 a wk cyp 600 a wk eq for 14 wks is a good time..

both stacks get me pretty large...
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 09, 2009, 04:31:27 PM
run some tren if you want a good androgen in your system

I'm trying to stay as OTC as possible (without a trip to Mexico lol) for this contest, but if I get my ass whipped, I may just do that the next round. ;)

Thanks for all the great tips, guys.  Time for another meal, some family time, and then off to the gym around 9pm. 

Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
I'm trying to stay as OTC as possible (without a trip to Mexico lol) for this contest, but if I get my ass whipped, I may just do that the next round. ;)

Thanks for all the great tips, guys.  Time for another meal, some family time, and then off to the gym around 9pm. 


you can get some good otc steroids... see if a place near you sells "tren extreme"...

http://www.americell-labs.com/shopexd.asp?id=16

fuck the directions... take 3 caps three times per day...
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: dr.chimps on February 09, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
lol 226?  I'm 272 someone needs to send me a crate of t-3 and clen
Lordy. I'm just a shade taller than you Wiggs, and I've gotten up to just under 220 and I couldn't get to home from 1st anymore - I was leaning over the 3rd baseline fence seeing stars. I can't imagine carrying another 52lbs. Hell, I'd  probably jack 'em or just pop out - no base running.  :-X
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 10, 2009, 11:16:31 AM

Thanks so much, guys.  DLs and the db rows kicked my ass last night, but felt damn good.  Gonna do delts and biceps today and maybe 45 min of cardio. 

Got some stuff ordered today, so I'll let you know how things go.

Much appreciated, gentlemen. 

   
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: CT_Muscle on February 10, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
I have an opponent in this weight-loss competition (the really unfair is that I have to drop my last 13, while she's merely dumping her first 15), so diuretics are part of our 'anything goes' rules.  I would love to be able to squeeze out 5-6 lbs of water in those final days, but I'm not relying on that.  I think a more reasonable estimate is 2-3 lbs, given that it's been a LONG time (13-14 years) since I did any really tough dieting and my body is totally different now.

Veggie pills??  Does anyone have any safe recommendations on that? 

Funny you should say this, I'm also having a weight-loss competition with a female co-worker.
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 10, 2009, 12:41:30 PM
Funny you should say this, I'm also having a weight-loss competition with a female co-worker.

How long?  What's the format? 

We have to report our weights to one another once per week and then the final is Thursday, March 5th. 

I've lost just over 20 lbs since November, but losing this last 10 while trying to maintain what little muscle I have left would be almost impossible without some help within that small period of time.   
Title: Re: Supplement time - hook a schmoe up
Post by: Tre on February 14, 2009, 08:46:46 AM

Got down to 202 (3 lbs) for Thursday's weigh-in.  If I can keep close to that pace and drop another 5 over the next two weeks, then I'll feel reasonably confident about being able to lose the last 5 when I start cutting water. 

I'm loving the process...appreciate all the help, guys.