BTW...not for nothing, but why would anyone would have wanted to compete in NABBA or the AAU?
Glory?
Gloryhole would have been more accurate
Gloryhole would have been more accurate
Bob, do you think Jack London's a better bodybuilder than you?
Bob, do you think Jack London's a better bodybuilder than you?
BTW...not for nothing, but why would anyone would have wanted to compete in NABBA or the AAU?Well, good point . Although Charles Clairmonte and a few good ones did come through AAU and NABBA
Well lets see...I won the USA, Jack lives in the USA...thats about as much as our careers had in common
Almost every famous bbuilder and 'great' during bbuildings 'respectable years' competed and won the NABBA Universe
BTW...not for nothing, but why would anyone would have wanted to compete in NABBA or the AAU?I'll tell you why! Because the AAU had the Mr. America! Every great American bodybuilder of the golden years was the AAu Mr. America. Guys like Steve Reeves, Casey Viator, Ray Mentzer, Jeff King,Tim Belknap, Gary Leonard, Clancy Ross, John Grimek, Bill Pearl, Chuck Sipes, etc.... the list goes on and on . The same goes for NABBA. Does the name Arnold ring a bell. He was the NABBA Mr. Universe, Clairemont, King Buchanon, Bertil, Etc.... While the NPC brought us to the current quagmire of today. What sounds better? Mr. America or Nationals champ? Even the IFBB dumped its Mr., Universe contest in place of the pansy name of team Universe because of its drug testing. Remember when it was the IFBB Mr. Universe? You could have been the AAU Mr. America and had your poster size photo up on the 2nd room of Golds next to legends. The AAU Mr. America Bob Chic!!!!
Thats because there wasnt anything else....had the NPC been around back in the 60's/ 70's, it would have been a different deal
I'll tell you why! Because the AAU had the Mr. America! Every great American bodybuilder of the golden years was the AAu Mr. America. Guys like Steve Reeves, Casey Viator, Ray Mentzer, Jeff King,Tim Belknap, Gary Leonard, Clancy Ross, John Grimek, Bill Pearl, Chuck Sipes, etc.... the list goes on and on . The same goes for NABBA. Does the name Arnold ring a bell. He was the NABBA Mr. Universe, Clairemont, King Buchanon, Bertil, Etc.... While the NPC brought us to the current quagmire of today. What sounds better? Mr. America or Nationals champ? Even the IFBB dumped its Mr., Universe contest in place of the pansy name of team Universe because of its drug testing. Remember when it was the IFBB Mr. Universe? You could have been the AAU Mr. America and had your poster size photo up on the 2nd room of Golds next to legends. The AAU Mr. America Bob Chic!!!!
That is why!
Who would've dared to face... THE RHINO!I'll tell you who faced the Rhino. The mans name is Butch Perry from Boston. Butch beat the shit out of Jack London way back in 94 in Venice. He beat the shit out of Jack for dropping dime on many dealers. It made Jack tuck his cock up between his glutes and head back to Philly. Dont get me started on this piece of shit. The Rhino.......what a fucking joke. I know that there are still motherfuckers who would love to see if Jack has the balls to step his foot back in Vencie.
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Gloryhole would have been more accurate
Times had changed ny the time I was at the National level, and no one even recognized winners of the Mr. A...all te greats you mentioned were from a differnt time and place....now name me the guys who won the America from 1987-2000?You could have been the last. You would have been a legend. You could have bookended it.
Besides, my picture IS on the Golds gym wall...as Mr. USA!!
Times had changed ny the time I was at the National level, and no one even recognized winners of the Mr. A...all te greats you mentioned were from a differnt time and place....now name me the guys who won the America from 1987-2000?Matt Dufresne was awesome. Pete Miller was too. What about Joe DeAngelis? These guys were awesome. It was still great until 94. After that Jocellyn Pelletier could have won it.
Besides, my picture IS on the Golds gym wall...as Mr. USA!!
You could have been the last. You would have been a legend. You could have bookended it.
Who would've dared to face... THE RHINO!
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I'll tell you why! Because the AAU had the Mr. America! Every great American bodybuilder of the golden years was the AAu Mr. America. Guys like Steve Reeves, Casey Viator, Ray Mentzer, Jeff King,Tim Belknap, Gary Leonard, Clancy Ross, John Grimek, Bill Pearl, Chuck Sipes, etc.... the list goes on and on . The same goes for NABBA. Does the name Arnold ring a bell. He was the NABBA Mr. Universe, Clairemont, King Buchanon, Bertil, Etc.... While the NPC brought us to the current quagmire of today. What sounds better? Mr. America or Nationals champ? Even the IFBB dumped its Mr., Universe contest in place of the pansy name of team Universe because of its drug testing. Remember when it was the IFBB Mr. Universe? You could have been the AAU Mr. America and had your poster size photo up on the 2nd room of Golds next to legends. The AAU Mr. America Bob Chic!!!!
That is why!
Thats because there wasnt anything else....had the NPC been around back in the 60's/ 70's, it would have been a different deal
you're comparing apples and oranges. NABBA Universe was the top international contest well into the 70s, much more prestigious than the IFBB Worlds. The NPC is just the US.
the question is why don't the top American amateurs compete internationally any more? Don't say because the Worlds are drug tested. Doesn't stop anyone else.
Cause Gruskin was a gay little fruit perhaps? (coughvictorterra)
great physique.
bigger arms and a bigger thong and it would be a complete package
The answer is easy...because all the prestige is right here in the NPC with winning the USA, Nationals, N. American.
Anyone know what happened to him? What hes doing now?
what kind of answer is that? "who cares about anything outside the USofA"
the class winners of the Nationals always use to go to the Worlds. Alq' Gurley won the Nationals in 1990, then won his class at the Worlds.
he owns your world
Jack London
1996
North American Championships - NABBA, Overall Winner
1997
World Championships - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 3rd
2006
Night of Champions - PDI, 18th
Bob Cicherillo
1981
Natural America, Teen Tall, 4th
1983
Mr New York State - AAU, Teen Tall, 1st
Mr New York State - AAU, TeenOverall Winner
1987
Junior Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
Junior Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 5th
1988
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1989
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 4th
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 4th
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 2nd
1990
Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 5th
1991
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 6th
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 11th
1992
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 14th
1993
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1995
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1997
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 16th
1999
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 2nd
2000
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 1st
USA Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
2001
Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
2002
Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 18th
Show of Strength Pro Championship - IFBB, 7th
Southwest Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
2003
Night of Champions - IFBB, 6th
2004
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 11th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 8th
2005
New York Pro Championships - IFBB, 8th
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th
2006
Masters Pro World - IFBB, Winner
AS YOU CAN SEE, HE HAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF WINS THAN YOU!!!
Gloryhole would have been more accurate;D
Wow, you have way too much time on your hands dude.
The answer is easy...because all the prestige is right here in the NPC with winning the USA, Nationals, N. American.
The quality is not from the USA anymore.I think the last IFBB World Champion who looked great from every aspects was Dennis Wolf in 2005...
Compare the world championship winners vs. the nationals winners
Peter Putnam - world class?
Nabba is huge in Europe. IFBB is not at all.
Also teh BNBF is turning into a great fed in UK
I think the last IFBB World Champion who looked great from every aspects was Dennis Wolf in 2005...
The answer is easy...because all the prestige is right here in the NPC with winning the USA, Nationals, N. American
HEY!!! Bob helped me get my start in this sport wayyyy back in 1983. He saw me pose at the teen Mr Philadelphia contest and came up to me after the show and told me I needed a real pair of trunks ( I was wearing a bathing suit.lol) and that i had a lot of potential!Jesus! That's some background. You see any shifty looking characters hauling around 45 gallon drums or carrying shovels while you were taking those pics? :o
From that point, he helped me get in "muscle up" magazine and was very supportive in many of my early shows.
Anyone know what happened to him? What hes doing now?
He took this pic of me the day after i won the NPC South Jersey in Wildwood, Nj.
That folks is what a real PDI pro should look like...Unbeatable conditioning and structure...I believe he was probably only 2 years away from running Sami and Lee down......and some of the best arms!
What could have been... :'(
And I won't even get into the Rhino having the best Tatts in the business...
How come Chic? You were an east coast goliath? I am sure that Bob Gruskin was in awe of you. Why didnt you go the path of the AAU and NABBA? You could have been NABBA Mr. Universe and AAU Mr. America by the mid 90's. Why didnt you go down the road of Jeff King, Victor Terra, Joe DeAngelis, Joe Meeko and the rest of the east coast greats? It is not as if you were a short man. You would have competed in the tall division. Not even the medium/tall. I want to know why?wow pat lanzillo, have not heard that name in a long time. does anyone know what he's is up to these days?
Or were you too hell bent on competing against the Pat Lanzillo's and Richie Barretta's of the tri-state NPC kingdom?
wow pat lanzillo, have not heard that name in a long time. does anyone know what he's is up to these days?
How come Chic? You were an east coast Goliath? I am sure that Bob Gruskin was in awe of you. Why didnt you go the path of the AAU and NABBA? You could have been NABBA Mr. Universe and AAU Mr. America by the mid 90's. Why didnt you go down the road of Jeff King, Victor Terra, Joe DeAngelis, Joe Meeko and the rest of the east coast greats? It is not as if you were a short man. You would have competed in the tall division. Not even the medium/tall. I want to know why?
Or were you too hell bent on competing against the Pat Lanzillo's and Richie Barretta's of the tri-state NPC kingdom?
I can easily answer this. Chick is not in the same league as the legends who have emblazoned their names onto the perpetuity of History in becoming champs in those divisions. Chick knew that he was genetically not all there, in terms of work ethic: just mediocre and in terms of drugs: over the top. Just look at the company Chick kept and continues to keep.
The IFBB is ideal for a second stringer like Chick. A place where ass kissing and the sacrifice of one's humanity will get you far. So in terms of dollars and cents, Chick is a big winner with the crumbs that the Weiders have thrown him. But BodyBuilding Immortality? Forget about it!
I can easily answer this. Chick is not in the same league as the legends who have emblazoned their names onto the perpetuity of History in becoming champs in those divisions. Chick knew that he was genetically not all there, in terms of work ethic: just mediocre and in terms of drugs: over the top. Just look at the company Chick kept and continues to keep.
The IFBB is ideal for a second stringer like Chick. A place where ass kissing and the sacrifice of one's humanity will get you far. So in terms of dollars and cents, Chick is a big winner with the crumbs that the Weiders have thrown him. But BodyBuilding Immortality? Forget about it!
LOL...you still hanging around here, loser?
Aint jealousy a bitch?
I wonder how your annual income and lifestyle compares to Chick? He doesn't have to punch a clock.
I wonder how your annual income and lifestyle compares to Chick? He doesn't have to punch a clock.
I probably make more money per annum, and since I don't have a drug requirement, I spend less.
You'll have to ask his parents
More like per annus
And my parents would respond: "Our son doesn't rely upon a drug habit to bolster his self image. He doesn't work for homosexual muscle-worshipers. He has a University Degree and makes six digits using his superior intellect."
Now what would your parents say about their son, the meathead.
And my parents would respond: "Our son doesn't rely upon a drug habit to bolster his self image. He doesn't work for homosexual muscle-worshipers. He has a University Degree and makes six digits using his superior intellect.""Superior Intellect"??? LOL You are kidding right?? Most all the threads that you have started or posted on certainly do not reflect such!! Also I think you are a muscle- worshipping homo...look at some of the threads you've started about Titus.
Now what would your parents say about their son, the meathead.
he owns your world
Jack London
1996
North American Championships - NABBA, Overall Winner
1997
World Championships - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 3rd
2006
Night of Champions - PDI, 18th
Bob Cicherillo
1981
Natural America, Teen Tall, 4th
1983
Mr New York State - AAU, Teen Tall, 1st
Mr New York State - AAU, TeenOverall Winner
1987
Junior Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
Junior Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 5th
1988
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1989
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 4th
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 4th
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 2nd
1990
Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 5th
1991
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 6th
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 11th
1992
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 14th
1993
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1995
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 8th
1997
USA Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 16th
1999
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 2nd
2000
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 1st
USA Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
2001
Night of Champions - IFBB, 11th
Toronto Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
2002
Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, 18th
Show of Strength Pro Championship - IFBB, 7th
Southwest Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
2003
Night of Champions - IFBB, 6th
2004
Arnold Classic - IFBB, 11th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 8th
2005
New York Pro Championships - IFBB, 8th
San Francisco Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th
2006
Masters Pro World - IFBB, Winner
AS YOU CAN SEE, HE HAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF WINS THAN YOU!!!
"Superior Intellect"??? LOL You are kidding right?? Most all the threads that you have started or posted on certainly do not reflect such!! Also I think you are a muscle- worshipping homo...look at some of the threads you've started about Titus.
"Superior Intellect"??? LOL You are kidding right?? Most all the threads that you have started or posted on certainly do not reflect such!! Also I think you are a muscle- worshipping homo...look at some of the threads you've started about Titus.
I dont know...I'll ask them next time they're over my new house.
As far as success goes (or lack of)...you picked just about the last guy to use as an example.
And my parents would respond: "Our son doesn't rely upon a drug habit to bolster his self image. He doesn't work for homosexual muscle-worshipers. He has a University Degree and makes six digits using his superior intellect."
Why would such a successful person who is against drugs have an avatar such as yours?
Lets try it again. READMEATKID--Why would such a successful person who is against drugs have an avatar such as yours?
Gloryhole would have been more accurate
Nabba is huge in Europe. IFBB is not at all.
Also teh BNBF is turning into a great fed in UK
I happen to like American Bodybuilding Products. While protein supplements obviously don't offer the same instant gratification as steroids and HG, the liver and kidneys are spared. Then again, what is so gratifying about a protruding forhead, baldness and shrunken nut syndrome.Dont be a homo and attack people for no reason. You can use your ABB supplements and STFU and not worry about everyone else's drug use or how succesful they are
Anyway, thanks for your inquiry.
BTW...not for nothing, but why would anyone would have wanted to compete in NABBA or the AAU?For the same reason some college recruits play in the NAIA Division II!!!!!!! Instead of playing in the NCAA !!!!
I'm not sure who you are. Evidently you follow my writings very closely.Not really..but who could forget a fool that calls Titus a "Mastermind".
Hell it would be great to say you won the same contest as pearl, arnie, nubret, kawak etc etc
v.v strong point.it is price less to be part of that list of legends.
Not really..but who could forget a fool that calls Titus a "Mastermind".
I'm sure given your background you feel that making a few bucks and getting a mortgage makes you "successful". I think it will be all short-lived, as your self image is predicated on drug abuse and the fitness industry is fickle. Enjoy the couple of bucks in your pocket and fame amongst the bodybuilding crowd while it lasts. We'll check in with you in ten years, and see how your liver is doing.
Dont be a homo and attack people for no reason. You can use your ABB supplements and STFU and not worry about everyone else's drug use or how succesful they are
Paid the price ? Paid what price? It's the fucking internet who gives a fuck
The above words are your own. Why not abide by them?
Agreed....it's a representation of a time and place...a era which wont be repeated...like the early days of the NFL, or MLB.stop comparin bb homoerotica with athletes
To ask why someone of the modern era didn't compete, would be like asking why Brett Farve didn't play football in the AFL
Interesting that Chick has had what he considers to be a smart ass answer for all of my posts except the above one. I guess he just ignores the ones that trouble him.
No, I just get tired of arguing with retards talking jibberish
LOL....what do you know....yet ANOTHER internet guy making 6 figures
Chick, just because you come from a background where everyone punches a clock, that doesn't mean everyone does. If he were claiming to be a billionaire, I'd be skeptical, but earning over $100k/yr is hardly unusual. Even if only 5% on the population earns this or better, that's 15 million people in the US alone. How many of them do you figure have access to the internet? ::)
You pick fights on these threads and you wouldnt go up to Chick and say this. You worry about everyones drug use blah,blah,blah. Lets see all your riches Mr. Internet Millionaire
Agreed....it's a representation of a time and place...a era which wont be repeated...like the early days of the NFL, or MLB.you also got the point bob but compare to AFL, NABBA is still up and running and also producing some of great names of pro circut like Charles Claremont,Dennis James,mustafa Mohammad,Edward kawak and most recent NABBA Armature universe Lyonel beyeke from France who also got 2nd in supper heave weight class at Arnold armature world championship this year.most of people in the hall was convinced that he should have won his class and overall.mark my words he is star in making trained by legend no other then serge nubret himself.
To ask why someone of the modern era didn't compete, would be like asking why Brett Farve didn't play football in the AFL
you also got the point bob but compare to AFL, NABBA is still up and running and also producing some of great names of pro circut like Charles Claremont,Dennis James,mustafa Mohammad,Edward kawak and most recent NABBA Armature universe Lyonel beyeke from France who also got 2nd in supper heave weight class at Arnold armature world championship this year.most of people in the hall was convinced that he should have won his class and overall.mark my words he is star in making trained by legend no other then serge nubret himself.
oh and i forget about latest ifbb superstar Samuel saviour.he also won 3 time NAC universe before turning ifbb pro.you know why these guys still compete in nabba cuz ifbb armature organizational structure is so corrupt and fucked up.these guys would have been buried by their local and regional ifbb fedratons if NABBA don't provide them international plateform to compete and grow.
so till ifbb dont get its act togather and overcome its dirty armature politics NABBA is a way to go.
People compete in NABBA for the simple reason that they're born and live where there are NABBA shows....name me one guy that CHOSES to compete in NABBA over the IFBB...
Eddie Elwood did...
how much is chick making a month?
Getting angry?Why would I be angry? Your just a girl
The quality is not from the USA anymore.
Compare the world championship winners vs. the nationals winners
Peter Putnam - world class?
Hehehe, ewwww! :)
But I'd say that's accurate. Most of the men in the NABBA and AAU had very ugly bodies.
People compete in NABBA for the simple reason that they're born and live where there are NABBA shows....name me one guy that CHOSES to compete in NABBA over the IFBB...
People compete in NABBA for the simple reason that they're born and live where there are NABBA shows....name me one guy that CHOSES to compete in NABBA over the IFBB...Either u don't understand my point or u don't want to discuss it.of course no one wants to leave IFBB because money and fame involved with IFBB pro division.what i am trying to say that insulting,unfair and controlling behaviour of IFBB(Armature)pushing bodybuilders towards other fedrations.
Either u don't understand my point or u don't want to discuss it.of course no one wants to leave IFBB because money and fame involved with IFBB pro division.what i am trying to say that insulting,unfair and controlling behaviour of IFBB(Armature)pushing bodybuilders towards other fedrations.
your argument is not justified because IFBB exist all over the world and if an armature bodybuilder chose to compete in NABBA over IFBB it just because he feels that he will be treated respectfully and fairly in NABBA.
IFBB supporting same old thugs in most of countries from so many years who are most hated and unpopular among bodybuilding community of that country.prime example of this situation would be Paul Graham(Australia) and Paul chua.
At the 2008 IFBB World, all 9 winners were from islamic countries ?.SUCKS !.
For most of them, that's the highlight of their careers. They treat the Universe like the Olympia, because that's as good as it gets.THAT TURK WAS SKINNED...
Remember that several IFBB pros (many of them Muslims) surrendered their IFBB pro cards to compete at the Universe, because the fame and glory (and $$$$$) they would get from their home countries, if they win, is far greater than what they'd get if they were mediocre to not-so-good pros.
The most noted case was that guy from the mid-90s, Hamdullah Ayktullu (sp?), the dude known for the riduculously shredded glutes, who gain some press after competing in the '96 Night of Champions.
In 1998, he surrendered his pro card and went to the Universe, where he won the light-heavweight and overall title, defeating his closest competition, heavyweight champ Mustafa Mohammad.
By rule, Ayktullu can never turn pro again. But, the fame and glory from his homeland that he got as Mr. Universe profitted him much more than his tenure as an IFBB pro.
Interesting that Chick has had what he considers to be a smart ass answer for all of my posts except the above one. I guess he just ignores the ones that trouble him.Kinda like changing your avatar from a big drugged up bodybuilder to ABB when called out.