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Title: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: The True Adonis on February 12, 2009, 08:13:43 PM
On Darwin’s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
Belief drops to 24% among frequent church attenders



by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- On the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth, a new Gallup Poll shows that only 39% of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36% don't have an opinion either way. These attitudes are strongly related to education and, to an even greater degree, religiosity.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/pp05ytoxcuijd73t-qrr3w.gif)

There is a strong relationship between education and belief in Darwin's theory, as might be expected, ranging from 21% of those with high-school educations or less to 74% of those with postgraduate degrees.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/lvtmmfl19eqfl0cpgxojzw.gif)

Those with high-school educations or less are much more likely to have no opinion than are those who have more formal education. Still, among those with high-school educations or less who have an opinion on Darwin's theory, more say they do not believe in evolution than say they believe in it. For all other groups, and in particular those who have at least a college degree, belief is significantly higher than nonbelief.

Darwin's theory has been at the forefront of religious debate since he published On the Origin of Species 150 years ago. Even to this day, highly religious individuals claim that the theory of evolution contradicts the story of creation as outlined in the book of Genesis in the Bible.

Thus, it comes as no surprise to find that there is a strong relationship between church attendance and belief in evolution in the current data. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to say they believe in evolution.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/iue6sizpteow-po1bcyola.gif)

Previous Gallup research shows that the rate of church attendance is fairly constant across educational groups, suggesting that this relationship is not owing to an underlying educational difference but instead reflects a direct influence of religious beliefs on belief in evolution.

Younger Americans, who are less likely to be religious than those who are older, are also more likely to believe in evolution. Still, just about half of those aged 18 to 34 say they believe in evolution.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/s_ff8lvlpe-7g8anx-amsg.gif)

Awareness of Darwin's Association With Evolution

Before respondents in the current poll were asked about their belief in evolution, they were tested to see whether they could correctly associate evolution with Darwin. The results show that 55% of Americans can correctly name evolution (or another term closely associated with evolution, such as natural selection) when asked with which theory they associate Darwin.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wc18bzbjpuqplocupi4ayw.gif)

Again, as would be expected, correct identification of Darwin with his scientific theory is highly related to education.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/8lq5cexcd0gqh3ld9p6q9q.gif)

Correct identification zooms from only 31% among those with no more than a high school education all the way to 86% among those with postgraduate educations.

Americans who seldom or never attend church are slightly, but not overwhelmingly, more likely to correctly identify Darwin with this theory than are those who attend more often.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/yz2plqtzmukku6abbqzumw.gif)
Correctly identifying the theory of evolution with Darwin is related to belief in the theory, but 29% of those who correctly link the two still say they do not believe in evolution. Of those who don't know or are unsure which theory Darwin is associated with, almost two-thirds also don't have an opinion on evolution, while those who do have an opinion are split down the middle as to whether they believe it.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/10pckeutbeseofsox9qrpg.gif)

Implications

As Darwin is being lauded as one of the most important scientists in history on the 200th anniversary of his birth (on Feb. 12, 1809), it is perhaps dismaying to scientists who study and respect his work to see that well less than half of Americans today say they believe in the theory of evolution, and that just 55% can associate the man with his theory.

Naturally, some of this is because of educational differences. Americans who have lower levels of formal education are significantly less likely than others to be able to identity Darwin with his theory, and to have an opinion on it either way. Still, the evidence is clear that even to this day, Americans' religious beliefs are a significant predictor of their attitudes toward Darwin's theory. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to believe in evolution, and most likely to say they do not believe in it.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Feb. 6-7, 2009, as part of Gallup Poll Daily tracking. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: The Coach on February 12, 2009, 08:21:09 PM
On Darwin’s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
Belief drops to 24% among frequent church attenders



by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- On the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth, a new Gallup Poll shows that only 39% of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36% don't have an opinion either way. These attitudes are strongly related to education and, to an even greater degree, religiosity.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/pp05ytoxcuijd73t-qrr3w.gif)

There is a strong relationship between education and belief in Darwin's theory, as might be expected, ranging from 21% of those with high-school educations or less to 74% of those with postgraduate degrees.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/lvtmmfl19eqfl0cpgxojzw.gif)

Those with high-school educations or less are much more likely to have no opinion than are those who have more formal education. Still, among those with high-school educations or less who have an opinion on Darwin's theory, more say they do not believe in evolution than say they believe in it. For all other groups, and in particular those who have at least a college degree, belief is significantly higher than nonbelief.

Darwin's theory has been at the forefront of religious debate since he published On the Origin of Species 150 years ago. Even to this day, highly religious individuals claim that the theory of evolution contradicts the story of creation as outlined in the book of Genesis in the Bible.

Thus, it comes as no surprise to find that there is a strong relationship between church attendance and belief in evolution in the current data. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to say they believe in evolution.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/iue6sizpteow-po1bcyola.gif)

Previous Gallup research shows that the rate of church attendance is fairly constant across educational groups, suggesting that this relationship is not owing to an underlying educational difference but instead reflects a direct influence of religious beliefs on belief in evolution.

Younger Americans, who are less likely to be religious than those who are older, are also more likely to believe in evolution. Still, just about half of those aged 18 to 34 say they believe in evolution.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/s_ff8lvlpe-7g8anx-amsg.gif)

Awareness of Darwin's Association With Evolution

Before respondents in the current poll were asked about their belief in evolution, they were tested to see whether they could correctly associate evolution with Darwin. The results show that 55% of Americans can correctly name evolution (or another term closely associated with evolution, such as natural selection) when asked with which theory they associate Darwin.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wc18bzbjpuqplocupi4ayw.gif)

Again, as would be expected, correct identification of Darwin with his scientific theory is highly related to education.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/8lq5cexcd0gqh3ld9p6q9q.gif)

Correct identification zooms from only 31% among those with no more than a high school education all the way to 86% among those with postgraduate educations.

Americans who seldom or never attend church are slightly, but not overwhelmingly, more likely to correctly identify Darwin with this theory than are those who attend more often.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/yz2plqtzmukku6abbqzumw.gif)
Correctly identifying the theory of evolution with Darwin is related to belief in the theory, but 29% of those who correctly link the two still say they do not believe in evolution. Of those who don't know or are unsure which theory Darwin is associated with, almost two-thirds also don't have an opinion on evolution, while those who do have an opinion are split down the middle as to whether they believe it.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/10pckeutbeseofsox9qrpg.gif)

Implications

As Darwin is being lauded as one of the most important scientists in history on the 200th anniversary of his birth (on Feb. 12, 1809), it is perhaps dismaying to scientists who study and respect his work to see that well less than half of Americans today say they believe in the theory of evolution, and that just 55% can associate the man with his theory.

Naturally, some of this is because of educational differences. Americans who have lower levels of formal education are significantly less likely than others to be able to identity Darwin with his theory, and to have an opinion on it either way. Still, the evidence is clear that even to this day, Americans' religious beliefs are a significant predictor of their attitudes toward Darwin's theory. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to believe in evolution, and most likely to say they do not believe in it.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Feb. 6-7, 2009, as part of Gallup Poll Daily tracking. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.


Are those the people who voted for Obama?
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Marty Champions on February 12, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
thank god for stupid americans if it werent for them i wouldnt be classified as smart!
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Emmortal on February 12, 2009, 08:33:06 PM
Gallop polls are by no means any indication of judging a nations overall intelligence.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: dustin on February 12, 2009, 08:33:33 PM
I'm not going to look at all those fancy graphs. Satan put them "dinosaur bones" in the Earth to test our faith. Salvation is MINE!! ;D
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: liberalismo on February 12, 2009, 08:46:18 PM
I blame the shitty educational systems as well as our culture. Americans simply don't prize intelligent like other nations do. People who don't believe in Evolution are truly idiots.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: brent2741 on February 12, 2009, 08:47:29 PM
living in the U.S. i do find it embarrassing that there are that many people out there that are disillusioned.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: liberalismo on February 12, 2009, 08:56:59 PM
[Idiot creationist]

Yea...We share 98% of our DNA with Chimps because we "have the same creator".

All of those genuine transitional fossils are simply coincidences.

The irrefutable genetic proof is a trick by Satan!

Evolution is just a theory!

Darwin recanted on his deathbed!

Why are there still monkeys if we came from monkeys?  ;D

I'm too stupid to conceive of humans evolving from microscopic organic material, therefore it never happened!

Many things are too complex to have evolved, even though scientists know by detail how they evolved!

[/idiot creationist]


I think I just used 90% of the claims against evolution.

[idiot creationist]
But wait...There are a few anti-evolution websites with a ton of articles that I've never read written by more idiots who claim to be real scientists even though they never publish actual papers in actual journals.
[/idiot creationist]
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: nycbull on February 12, 2009, 08:59:51 PM
I like the nice green charts.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: chaos on February 12, 2009, 09:03:22 PM
Yawn.
True Anus, don't you get tired of starting boring ass threads like this?

I'll wait for your gimmicks to commence the attack. ::)
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Tombo on February 12, 2009, 09:42:40 PM
sigh adonis you might have some weighting on this one but you have a terrible track record

"SMART WORK > HARD WORK" shut the fuck up downy

effort > laziness

clearly you don't know this you low bracketed beanpole
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Razor Ripped on February 12, 2009, 10:01:09 PM
so how come we are not all monkeys?
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: kh300 on February 12, 2009, 10:05:19 PM
i believe in evolution, i dont think anyone with at least half a brain doesnt. yes living beings change and adapt over time. but to say humans came from a monkey is idiotic.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Razor Ripped on February 12, 2009, 10:07:25 PM
i believe in evolution, i dont think anyone with at least half a brain doesnt. yes living beings change and adapt over time. but to say humans came from a monkey is idiotic.

we came from monkeys, all monkeys turned human, don't argue about the different species of monkies, they are all one and we are it.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: fredrollon on February 12, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
i believe in evolution, i dont think anyone with at least half a brain doesnt. yes living beings change and adapt over time.
but to say humans came from a monkey is idiotic.

Fair enough,we share a common ancestor?  ???
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Razor Ripped on February 12, 2009, 10:13:56 PM
Fair enough,we share a common ancestor?  my grandma looked like a monkey

fixed
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: gordiano on February 12, 2009, 11:12:25 PM
I blame the shitty educational systems as well as our culture. Americans simply don't prize intelligent like other nations do. People who don't believe in Evolution are truly idiots.

Exactly. Look at the people that are "glorified" and "admired" in our society. Rappers, Movie stars, shitty musicians, pro athletes (scum of the fucking earth, drug abusers, primadonnas, cheaters, self absorbed pieces of shit). Yet the people who make a difference in others' lives, you do not hear about.

But we have plenty of tv shows depicting and glorifying the "celebrities". Most are people with sub-par IQ's, which I guess is why they are so popular to begin with, since we have so many idiots in our society. There was a time, when you actually had to posses some kind of talent or ability, to achieve celebrity status....now all you have to do is be a whore on video tape, or a former drug dealer who bitches about everything, and loves getting high.   
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Eat2Grow on February 12, 2009, 11:19:32 PM
i believe in evolution, i dont think anyone with at least half a brain doesnt. yes living beings change and adapt over time. but to say humans came from a monkey is idiotic.


Case in point,,,even evolusiontists don't subscribe.

No fact AT ALL in Evolution.  Close, but no cigar ring a bell  when talking about genes.... everything is close... show me right, you can't.   The link is STILL and always will be MISSING.  Can't fins what doesn't exist.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Rearden Metal on February 12, 2009, 11:37:47 PM
Pretty sure Americans are not a Nation at all...
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Razor Ripped on February 13, 2009, 12:15:54 AM
Pretty sure Americans are not a Nation at all... my country just hosted the olympic games

fixed
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on February 13, 2009, 01:36:08 AM
i believe in evolution, i dont think anyone with at least half a brain doesnt. yes living beings change and adapt over time. but to say humans came from a monkey is idiotic.


Case in point,,,even evolusiontists don't subscribe.

No fact AT ALL in Evolution.  Close, but no cigar ring a bell  when talking about genes.... everything is close... show me right, you can't.   The link is STILL and always will be MISSING.  Can't fins what doesn't exist.

By the ignorance of Team Nasser!
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Eat2Grow on February 13, 2009, 01:47:03 AM
Wow ,, by the huh?  Webcke has a gimmick account it appears.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: webcake on February 13, 2009, 01:48:40 AM
Wow ,, by the huh?  Webcke has a gimmick account it appears.


ahahha.....im so deep in your head.

lmao....and your 31...wow, this is pretty sad.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on February 13, 2009, 02:00:10 AM
Yes!! the first time I'm accused of being a gimmick! Now I have truly reached the pinnacle of Getbig!
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: dr.chimps on February 13, 2009, 02:02:13 AM
Are those the people who voted for Obama?
LOL. I know, and you know that you're not the sharpest tool in the shed...but why on on earth do you have to proclaim it with every post!?  :)
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Eat2Grow on February 13, 2009, 02:04:48 AM
The 1st halfrican american Pres.    :-[
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Sharma on February 13, 2009, 06:37:24 AM
Another interesting and thought provoking thread from Adam here.
I have travelled extensively and my uncle owns property all over America, UK , and Asia. In all that time I have not met anyone as dumb, ignorant and uneducated as some of the people I meet in America. Honestly, for a country that brags about being so advanced I have never met such backward people mentally.

Obviously not all. On the East and West coast of the USA there are some bright and interesting people but in the middle it is almost all Neanderthal brains (with some notable exception).
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Awesomo on February 13, 2009, 06:46:35 AM
True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps  ::)
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: MCWAY on February 13, 2009, 07:02:19 AM
The article, posted elswhere by Beach Bum, in a far-less-lengthy-and-more-to-the-point thread, said the key here is religious belief, moreso than level of education.

And, as I said there, there may be a correlation with Catholicism. A Fox News poll I saw some months ago indicated that outside the USA, most professed Christians are Catholic, to the tune of 67%

However, in the USA, that number DROPS to 33%.

Could it be that the Protestant demoninations (and perhaps, the grade schools, high schools, colleges, unversities, hospitals, clinics) run by them play a factor as to why so many Christians DO NOT believe in evolution, regardless of their education level?
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Rami on February 13, 2009, 07:07:16 AM
Yes!! the first time I'm accused of being a gimmick! Now I have truly reached the pinnacle of Getbig!

I have been accused of being GH15. People though he was intelligent, no?  :)
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: dr.chimps on February 13, 2009, 07:09:01 AM
True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps  ::)
Probably not. But he likes his intellectual snobbery, don't he?   :)

/and food and beer snobbery. can't forget those  ;D
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation?
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 13, 2009, 07:11:18 AM
No argument there...
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Sir Bigness on February 13, 2009, 07:13:25 AM
Ahhhh the US. The country everyone loves to hate!!!
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: dario73 on February 13, 2009, 07:15:11 AM
My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Dorian01 on February 13, 2009, 07:15:19 AM
We were created as slave workers by the Annunaki to mine gold for them. This theory would make the best movie, so it must be right.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Top Dog on February 13, 2009, 07:23:44 AM
On Darwin’s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
Belief drops to 24% among frequent church attenders



by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- On the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth, a new Gallup Poll shows that only 39% of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36% don't have an opinion either way. These attitudes are strongly related to education and, to an even greater degree, religiosity.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/pp05ytoxcuijd73t-qrr3w.gif)

There is a strong relationship between education and belief in Darwin's theory, as might be expected, ranging from 21% of those with high-school educations or less to 74% of those with postgraduate degrees.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/lvtmmfl19eqfl0cpgxojzw.gif)

Those with high-school educations or less are much more likely to have no opinion than are those who have more formal education. Still, among those with high-school educations or less who have an opinion on Darwin's theory, more say they do not believe in evolution than say they believe in it. For all other groups, and in particular those who have at least a college degree, belief is significantly higher than nonbelief.

Darwin's theory has been at the forefront of religious debate since he published On the Origin of Species 150 years ago. Even to this day, highly religious individuals claim that the theory of evolution contradicts the story of creation as outlined in the book of Genesis in the Bible.

Thus, it comes as no surprise to find that there is a strong relationship between church attendance and belief in evolution in the current data. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to say they believe in evolution.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/iue6sizpteow-po1bcyola.gif)

Previous Gallup research shows that the rate of church attendance is fairly constant across educational groups, suggesting that this relationship is not owing to an underlying educational difference but instead reflects a direct influence of religious beliefs on belief in evolution.

Younger Americans, who are less likely to be religious than those who are older, are also more likely to believe in evolution. Still, just about half of those aged 18 to 34 say they believe in evolution.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/s_ff8lvlpe-7g8anx-amsg.gif)

Awareness of Darwin's Association With Evolution

Before respondents in the current poll were asked about their belief in evolution, they were tested to see whether they could correctly associate evolution with Darwin. The results show that 55% of Americans can correctly name evolution (or another term closely associated with evolution, such as natural selection) when asked with which theory they associate Darwin.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wc18bzbjpuqplocupi4ayw.gif)

Again, as would be expected, correct identification of Darwin with his scientific theory is highly related to education.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/8lq5cexcd0gqh3ld9p6q9q.gif)

Correct identification zooms from only 31% among those with no more than a high school education all the way to 86% among those with postgraduate educations.

Americans who seldom or never attend church are slightly, but not overwhelmingly, more likely to correctly identify Darwin with this theory than are those who attend more often.

(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/yz2plqtzmukku6abbqzumw.gif)
Correctly identifying the theory of evolution with Darwin is related to belief in the theory, but 29% of those who correctly link the two still say they do not believe in evolution. Of those who don't know or are unsure which theory Darwin is associated with, almost two-thirds also don't have an opinion on evolution, while those who do have an opinion are split down the middle as to whether they believe it.
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/10pckeutbeseofsox9qrpg.gif)

Implications

As Darwin is being lauded as one of the most important scientists in history on the 200th anniversary of his birth (on Feb. 12, 1809), it is perhaps dismaying to scientists who study and respect his work to see that well less than half of Americans today say they believe in the theory of evolution, and that just 55% can associate the man with his theory.

Naturally, some of this is because of educational differences. Americans who have lower levels of formal education are significantly less likely than others to be able to identity Darwin with his theory, and to have an opinion on it either way. Still, the evidence is clear that even to this day, Americans' religious beliefs are a significant predictor of their attitudes toward Darwin's theory. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to believe in evolution, and most likely to say they do not believe in it.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Feb. 6-7, 2009, as part of Gallup Poll Daily tracking. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

Adonis is obsessed with this issue. He gets truly upset if people don't see the monkey in him. Definately one of the bigger idiots I've seen here the last few years and the biggest bore.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: CT_Muscle on February 13, 2009, 07:36:35 AM
True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps  ::)

CTRL C + CTRL V = Adonis' intelligence  ;)
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: dr.chimps on February 13, 2009, 07:42:46 AM
My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
You again. I'll assume that your slant here is as well thought out and impartial as your thoughts on the Middle East. Oh brother.

/and lose the condescension. it does nobody any favours
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Steve in NJ on February 13, 2009, 07:57:35 AM
the conclusion that Americans are perhaps the dumbest, without a basis on comparative studies in other industrialized nations, reveals some inherent disgust for Americans by the thread starter.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Awesomo on February 13, 2009, 07:57:59 AM
CTRL C + CTRL V = Adonis' intelligence  ;)

I'm new to the boards but I am noticing a theme here:

Adonis will post any article in which he can put down others and feed his own belief that he is indeed the smartest person here. 99% of the time it is not BB related, but it is important he post it lest we forget how smart he really is.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 13, 2009, 08:05:23 AM
I'm new to the boards but I am noticing a theme here:

Adonis will post any article in which he can put down others and feed his own belief that he is indeed the smartest person here. 99% of the time it is not BB related, but it is important he post it lest we forget how smart he really is.

Makes one wonder what institute of higher learning the thread starter attended...
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: local hero on February 13, 2009, 08:13:03 AM
i think its quite intresting that this is the case,,, i knew all your bible belt backward states would think this,but it seems prerty much wide spread.
It must be very embarracing to the other percentage,.... in the uk its taken for granted even in faith schools, there forced by law to teach it..

Its beyond me why people try and take the bible as a history book, the fucker wasnt even put together untill a few centurys after the fact and they picked and chose from all the tall stories to suit them selves....

All orginised religion is just a tool to keep the people in place...and how educted people can argue over things like this is unreal
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: flagadajones on February 13, 2009, 08:23:00 AM
adonis is just another MSM's pupet who think he's cool and witty just copying and pasting what he reads in these very same MSM.

He got completely hooked in the obama's hype since day one yet argues he's an independant thinker...please. You're just a follower.

He can't even understand that wether the leaders are liberals or conservatives they both bow down to lobbies and foreign interests more than the interests of the nation.

Basically he pretends to understand things nobody understands anyway cause it isnt meant to be understood by the populace.

Like any of us, he understands only what politics allow him, want him, to understand.

What does he "knows" more than any of us? nothing he didnt read on the internet or heard /watched on TV...


Just another trendy follower of the "cult",  as extremistic in his views as those he accuses of being extremists.



Fact is all about politics is fake, pure garbage, whatever the "side" you pick.





True anus, go live in europe for some months or years, then you ll know what you're talking about when saying that obama's is going to make theUSA more like europe. You know nothing about what you wish for.
You wouldnt even last more than one month in any european country.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: MCWAY on February 13, 2009, 08:40:59 AM
i think its quite intresting that this is the case,,, i knew all your bible belt backward states would think this,but it seems prerty much wide spread.
It must be very embarracing to the other percentage,.... in the uk its taken for granted even in faith schools, there forced by law to teach it..

Its beyond me why people try and take the bible as a history book, the fucker wasnt even put together untill a few centurys after the fact and they picked and chose from all the tall stories to suit them selves....

All orginised religion is just a tool to keep the people in place...and how educted people can argue over things like this is unreal

What's "unreal" is how people, who obviously need to brush on basic spelling and grammar, can wail about how "backwards" people of faith are.  ;D

The reason people take the Bible as a history book is simply because IT HAPPENS TO BE ONE. There were many historical facts that, at one point, were only known within the pages of Scripture. When archaeological evidence was later found on that item, that research confirmed that the Bible's account was right.

A prime example of that was Belshazzar (of the famous "writing on the wall" incident). Many atheists of the 18th and 19th century claimed that the Bible was incorrect about his the "King" of Babylon, when it fell to the Medes and Persians. They even cited that he didn't even exist and that Nabondius was the last king of Bablyon (prior to its fall), because he was virtually unmentioned outside the Bible.

Then in 1854, the Nabonidus Chronicles were found by Sir Henry Rawlinson. It not only confirmed that Belshazzar existed but showed that, when Nabonidus left Babylon for Tema, he handed the reigns of power over to him, making him acting king. Today, we would call that a co-regency.

It also explains why, in the book of Daniel, Belshazzar offered, to whoever could tell him what that mysterious writing on the wall meant, the position of THIRD highest ruler in the kingdom.

As for your other comment, laws of all types are designed to keep the people in place. That's why we have them, and why we throw people in jail when they break them.

Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Mars on February 13, 2009, 08:49:37 AM
people who dont believe in it should be executed by the masses.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: local hero on February 13, 2009, 08:51:52 AM
beleive what u want to beleive,, but when u you nutters try and start to teach it as fact,,, thats when your way out of line, its along the same lines as the church bunrning people to death for being 'witches' or calling blasphomy when they argued that the world wasnt flat...

The bible has no place in in science or in whats tought in school, and it was law until modern times, the catholic church rode roughshod over europe until we finaly got a grip and fucked the pope off....... what is funny is how u like to mock the arab world for there crazy beliefs with the 21 virgins for martydom etc.... your all the fucking same, its like a sick joke
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: MCWAY on February 13, 2009, 09:02:52 AM
beleive what u want to beleive,, but when u you nutters try and start to teach it as fact,,, thats when your way out of line, its along the same lines as the church bunrning people to death for being 'witches' or calling blasphomy when they argued that the world wasnt flat...

Since nowhere does Scripture claim that the world was flat, your feigned outrage is little more than slapstick comedy.


The bible has no place in in science or in whats tought in school, and it was law until modern times, the catholic church rode roughshod over europe until we finaly got a grip and fucked the pope off....... what is funny is how u like to mock the arab world for there crazy beliefs with the 21 virgins for martydom etc.... your all the fucking same, its like a sick joke


What the Catholic Church taught, more often than not, was contrary to what was in the Bible anyway. So, again, this feigned outrage of yours is laughable. Maybe you should go back to school and learn how to compose an actual sentence or two, with some properly-spelled words, before you continue to run your mouth about how uneducated religious people are.

Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Lord Humungous on February 13, 2009, 09:08:31 AM
Glad True Anus is still a peter puffing queer. Anus post some pictures of your she-male beard.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: Lord Humungous on February 13, 2009, 09:09:33 AM
Glad True Anus is still a peter puffing queer. Anus post some pictures of your she-male beard.

Of course evolution might just be true, after all True Anus is build like an AIDS riddled spider monkey.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

It's been proven.  ::)

Darwin never said that. But,The cell HAS been proven to have changed in the past. Cell evolution is a vast area of study in Biology and even first year Biology students learn about the evolution of the Cell.

http://www.biology-online.org/10/3_development_organelles.htm
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: fredrollon on February 13, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
Fair enough,we share a common ancestor?  my grandma looked like a monkey
fixed

Yeah.Through my mother's side.   ;D

Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 02:08:13 PM
People who deny evolution obviously don't watch the Science channels or read Science websites. If they did, they would know all of the countless discoveries even being made DAILY which prove Evolution.

Link of 7 major missing links since Darwin
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/photogalleries/darwin-birthday-evolution/


Missing link link
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491147,00.html


DNA eruptions hold evolutionary key
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/dna+eruptions+hold+evolution+key/2943267



Not that any new discoveries are even needed to prove evolution, It's been proven over and over again since at least the end of the 19th century. Scientists started realizing that Common descent were true at least 120 years ago.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: GreatFinn on February 14, 2009, 12:06:02 AM
I blame the shitty educational systems as well as our culture. Americans simply don't prize intelligent like other nations do. People who don't believe in Evolution are truly idiots.

If that poll has been done just among of your politicians, the outcome would be different, and believers of evolution would be a small minority. Mechanism behind that phenomena is simple, because all successful experts of mass manipulation has based their skills on religion trough the history of man. To be successful in politics, you have to touch peoples feelings, not their intelligence. If you think about it, you see it your self. God bless the America, god bless the queen, go and fight for home, religion and your country, and if you survive, it is a work of god. If you die, it was meant to be. God bless the fighters on both sides of the front line, god's name may be different, but who the hell can prove who have a right one. If you want to be a politician, you have to have religious mind, little clever perhaps but you never can have real intelligence, that's bad for politicians. Why? You have to be stupid enough to believe that crap which you are feeding to people, if you don't, you lost your credibility. Furthermore, if you put up a survey of IQ among a religious people and supporters of darwinism, you see the fact that religious people score very low average. Politicians vs. stockbrokers from wall street? Politicians lost with a difference of more than 20 points average. Funny part is that they rule your world, they make your laws trusting to god and divine guidance, same as every country you can name.  ;D
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: The True Adonis on February 14, 2009, 04:01:34 AM
If that poll has been done just among of your politicians, the outcome would be different, and believers of evolution would be a small minority. Mechanism behind that phenomena is simple, because all successful experts of mass manipulation has based their skills on religion trough the history of man. To be successful in politics, you have to touch peoples feelings, not their intelligence. If you think about it, you see it your self. God bless the America, god bless the queen, go and fight for home, religion and your country, and if you survive, it is a work of god. If you die, it was meant to be. God bless the fighters on both sides of the front line, god's name may be different, but who the hell can prove who have a right one. If you want to be a politician, you have to have religious mind, little clever perhaps but you never can have real intelligence, that's bad for politicians. Why? You have to be stupid enough to believe that crap which you are feeding to people, if you don't, you lost your credibility. Furthermore, if you put up a survey of IQ among a religious people and supporters of darwinism, you see the fact that religious people score very low average. Politicians vs. stockbrokers from wall street? Politicians lost with a difference of more than 20 points average. Funny part is that they rule your world, they make your laws trusting to god and divine guidance, same as every country you can name.  ;D
Very insightful post!
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 14, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
Actually, I think if there were any studies done now comparing the intelligence of the average American in the 1950's with today's Americans you would probably see that there's been a huge decline and i think the reasons go beyond religion. One theory for that (not necessarily my own) is that forced integration in schools and the influx of third world latin immigrants has caused a serious problem in our educational system. When it became obvious "certain" students could not keep up with the others, the standards of learning were severely lowered or "dumbed down" to accomodate the more intellectually backward. Also, since the Media has heavily promoted the whole hip-hop and rap culture for the last 15 years or so, white kids have started to adopt the speech, and behavior patterns of those depicted in the videos they have watched. In other words they have undergone a de-evolution of sorts. From what I have seen of today's younger generation, I don't see much hope for America.
Title: Re: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps.
Post by: liberalismo on February 14, 2009, 07:47:12 PM
Actually, I think if there were any studies done now comparing the intelligence of the average American in the 1950's with today's Americans you would probably see that there's been a huge decline and i think the reasons go beyond religion. One theory for that (not necessarily my own) is that forced integration in schools and the influx of third world latin immigrants has caused a serious problem in our educational system. When it became obvious "certain" students could not keep up with the others, the standards of learning were severely lowered or "dumbed down" to accomodate the more intellectually backward. Also, since the Media has heavily promoted the whole hip-hop and rap culture for the last 15 years or so, white kids have started to adopt the speech, and behavior patterns of those depicted in the videos they have watched. In other words they have undergone a de-evolution of sorts. From what I have seen of today's younger generation, I don't see much hope for America.


Integration has nothing to do with. It's all about culture. Americans prize Paris Hilton and not Stephen Hawking. Game shows and not science shows. Shitty Music and not Math. Leisure and not hard work. Etc.